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Google Faisal Gill

By Greg L | 19 May 2007 | 51st HOD District | 54 Comments

A new commenter posits this question:

I’m quite disturbed by what I received in the mail today… It was a Julie Lucas for Delegate flyer that seems to be sent out to everyone in the 51st District… It directly attacks Faisal Gill and even tells people to “google” his name… Is this the honest and fair Julie Lucas you’ve been defending in your blogs, Greg? Not once has Faisal attempted to run a smear campaign to disrespect Julie Lucas… I’d like a response from you before I say anything else…

So Julie Lucas has finally taken the gloves off a bit, I see. I checked into this, and from what I can tell, Julie’s mail piece essentially says that Faisal Gill’s continuing and repeated close associations with folks like Asim Ghafoor (see here, here, here and here for information on Mr. Ghafoor) indicate a consistent pattern of bad judgment that should be disqualifying to his candidacy. That’s a little tamer than what I would have mailed out if I were her, but I can understand her attempt to be somewhat gentle in this comparison piece. As for the “Google Faisal Gill” thing, that is absolutely wonderful. Voters will doubtless be very interested in what they will find by doing so.

Heaven forbid a candidate do a comparison piece and tell prospective voters to actually do their own research on the internet. If this is such a huge problem for our erstwhile Faisal Gill, why in the heck didn’t he consider this rather obvious possibility before he decided to run for office? C’mon, when you google your own name, and the top ten results are articles from folks like Michelle Malkin and Jihad Watch talking about what a threat you likely are to national security, how much crack do you have to smoke in order to think that running for office is a good idea? Do we measure that quantity in pounds or kilos?

I can imagine Faisal Gill’s fellow kool-aid addicts are mighty disturbed. The voters might actually find out what an atrocious nominee Faisal Gill would be on their very own. If “google Faisal Gill” is a smear campaign, I guess next we’re going to hear about “the politics of personal destruction” just as we heard from Faisal Gill when he was Steve Chapman’s spokesman. The goofiness here is entirely amusing.

Maybe potential convention candidates will happen across Faisal Gill’s Wikipedia article when they follow Julie’s advice, which was established by a paid consultant to the Faisal Gill campaign. If his campaign created the internet reference, will they complain that people are told to actually visit it? That should be interesting.

Go get ‘em, Julie! And if anyone has a scan of this mail piece, I’d love to see it. Google Faisal Gill. I love it.



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54 Comments

  1. Loudoun Insider said on 20 May 2007 at 12:23 am:
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    I commend you on your dogged pursuit of this stuff, Greg. Check out Citizen Tom’s derision of my commentary on this matter. I’ve never been an adherent to blind party loyalty, and it’s really going off the wall now.

  2. Good Republican said on 20 May 2007 at 1:30 am:
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    If you think the few items on a post card are all there is, then you are sorely mistaken. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Criminal convictions and questions about the money can’t be far behind. Before this is all done, the only delegates on Jun 2 will be voting for Jeff Dion, because the Republican convention will be either not necessary or laughable.

  3. freedom said on 20 May 2007 at 6:25 am:
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    Well, if you’re a good Republican, wouldn’t it be better for the typical voter to see Faisal’s baggage NOW, rather than AFTER the convention. They just might also decide to “google Julie Lucas,” huh?

  4. Jonathan Mark said on 20 May 2007 at 7:10 am:
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    “”"which was established by a paid consultant to the Faisal Gill campaign.”"”

    I modified Faisal Gill’s Wikipedia article in order to tone down the stridently pro-Faisal content and to introduce some balance. The reference to Asim Ghafoor, for instance, is mine.

    To my surprise most of my changes are still there. I had expected pro-Faisal people would vandalize my changes, but so far that has not happened.

  5. George said on 20 May 2007 at 8:11 am:
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    Finally.

  6. freedom said on 20 May 2007 at 8:19 am:
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    Kinda like to the point, George — Well stated.

  7. oldie said on 20 May 2007 at 12:12 pm:
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    It clearly looks like Julie doesn’t have enough delegates signed up for her that’s why she is using cheap tactics to get voters on her side. what a class act? I think Julie had this planned all along. First she had JM and Greg write “BS” about Mr. Gill on the net on daily basis, then she asks voters to Google him. Shame on you Julie. I wonder what Tom Davis and his wife think of you?

  8. anon said on 20 May 2007 at 12:26 pm:
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    Did Julie make Faisal join his infamous law partner? Did Julie make Faisal Gill work with convicted terrorists?

    People are just merely reporting the facts of Faisal Gill’s life. Faisal Gill could have made other choices.

  9. George said on 20 May 2007 at 12:45 pm:
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    If you thought this stuff was going to stay hidden from voters for all of 2007, you’re a moron.

    If Gill didn’t expect that voters would be informed about his poor choices, he really should ask for a refund from Marcus & Allen. He did pay them $10,000 after all.

  10. Big Dog said on 20 May 2007 at 4:32 pm:
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    How will Frazzle Gill help Jackson Miller fight
    illegal immigration in Virginia? What do his past
    actions show about his ability/desire to work on
    this vital issue for the good of Virginians - and
    not illegals?

  11. charles said on 20 May 2007 at 4:54 pm:
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    I googled Julie Lucas. Other than blog entries, and her official web site, NOTHING.

    Gill - active duty military officer, law school graduate, served his country in the department of Homeland Security, he was on the Housing Board, he’s worked for many republican campaigns, he’s gained both fame and notoriety by being a vocal and recognized public figure.

    Julie Lucas — nothing.

  12. Anonymous said on 20 May 2007 at 5:01 pm:
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    Well, as far as illegal immigration is concerned, Gill’s law firm helps those “facing deportation” stay in the country. That sounds like a conflict of interest to me… This guy just has too much baggage; I hope Julie lets him have it so we don’t have to deal with this in the general. I can’t wait, the Dems would actually be able to take the national security stance over the GOP candidate!

  13. AWCheney said on 20 May 2007 at 5:12 pm:
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    Like I said in another thread…Faisal Gill is the Democrat’s greatest current asset in Prince William County.

  14. Batson D. Belfrey said on 20 May 2007 at 5:17 pm:
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    Has anyone noticed that most of Julie’s signs are in fron of actual homes, while Gills are on public right-of-ways? Just today I saw at least a dozen Lucas signs, all in front of homes. I saw about five Gill signs, only one of which was in front of a home. The rest were on medians and at corners, on public streets.

  15. charles said on 20 May 2007 at 5:32 pm:
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    Just for one example, this blog charged a couple of days ago that Asim leaked a classified document to the Washington Post.

    But here is the truth: “When Asim realised what he had received, he called the FBI…” The FBI tretrieved the document from Asim (who was not the lead lawyer). And who did the Washington Post say gave them the document? Not Asim, but “Wendell Belew,”.

  16. Freeman said on 20 May 2007 at 6:04 pm:
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    If you look closely, all of Gill’s signs are on private property; that be a business/home/whatever. Sadly people fail to use their eyes and common sense. Come on folks - atleast put up a decent fight. Why the cheap tactics?

  17. anon said on 20 May 2007 at 6:13 pm:
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    Gill does have a lot of money, so he still has some edge over Julie in that catagory. This is a campaign where many have not really paid attention. Gill could have hundreds of delegates who have no idea what his background is. Most voters still don’t google the candidate.

    Most voters just fill out the paper for delegate and forget about it until convention day. With all the hustle and bustle and traffic to DC what voter has time to do in depth research. In most cases, a candidate is just looking to get high name ID, let alone one or two issues associated with him.

    It is never over till it is over.

  18. Batson D. Belfrey said on 20 May 2007 at 6:18 pm:
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    “If you look closely, all of Gill’s signs are on private property;”

    I looked pretty damned closely. I didn’t know that the grassy strip between the road and the sidewalk on Smoketown Road was private property….

  19. Greg L said on 20 May 2007 at 7:55 pm:
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    Charles, I cannot find a reference that says any such thing anywhere. The Washington Post reporter in question is the one who contacted the FBI to the best of my understanding.

    The way the story has appeared in the Post and other news outlets, Ghafoor didn’t even know he had anything of any particular interest until the FBI expressed an interest in getting the documents back from the Washington Post reporter. When Ghafoor and Belew wanted to file suit, they had to scramble to get a copy of the document back from the folks in Saudi Arabia to whom they had sent these classified documents. They then filed suit, naming George Bush and several figures in the administration as defendants.

    Your version of events doesn’t seem to match what’s been reported, but if you have a reference I’d be interested in seeing it.

  20. AWCheney said on 20 May 2007 at 8:26 pm:
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    “I googled Julie Lucas. Other than blog entries, and her official web site, NOTHING.”

    Not true, Charles: After Googling “Julie Lucas,” then search within for Virginia and then Prince William County, there are 862 entries. Not all of them are blogs but, unlike in Gill’s case, none of them raise questions about Julie’s character and background. Maybe that’s why you couldn’t find anything…the entries were far too innocent and normal.

  21. RHarrison said on 20 May 2007 at 8:29 pm:
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    Can someone please explain to me why so many Republicans are so enamored with Faisal Gill? What has he done that suggests that we should overlook his enormous negatives? What does he bring to the table?

    Why are otherwise rational people supporting a man who will hand this seat to the Democrats? Julie Lucas is being far too nice in this race. The Democrats will not be. You don’t like her mild tap-piece (it is to mild to call a hit-piece)? Wait for the “Republican Tied to Terrorists!” pieces the Democrats will be mailing out every other week. The Democrats will tear him, and a chunk of our Party, apart - especially since their pieces will be accurate. The fact is, Faisal Gill does have strong ties to people who are tied to terrorists. When the Democrats and, I suspect, the media point this out he will lose. Why are we risking that?

    I can’t see it. Gill has the support of a couple significant Republicans in the district, but he has never been elected to anything, hasn’t accomplished anything terribly noteworthy and hasn’t done much for the party, other than raise money.

    Wait a minute ……

  22. John Smith said on 20 May 2007 at 8:33 pm:
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    Question: “Can someone please explain to me why so many Republicans are so enamored with Faisal Gill? ”

    Answer: $$

  23. charles said on 20 May 2007 at 8:49 pm:
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    I did “Julie Lucas Virginia Prince William County”.

    Got 335,000 hits , first page is all blogs, or articles dealing specifically with this race.

    First non-blog, not-this-race specific item is a pdf of a lawsuit filed by the school board, julie’s name appears on it (she was a defendent, case was dismissed, but it shows how you can find things that can be spun like is done here all the time “Julie was sued by a parent and his child after the child was taught how to build a bomb by a school teacher and then expelled when he repeated the experiment”.

    Obviously with 335,000 hits there’s something somewhere, but the point is that there is nothing really there. The first 40 responses are all stories about this race, or listings of her name with no real information about her. There IS one pro-Lucas letter associated with this race that pops up.

    And that’s if you restrict things to this county.

    And to show how stupid it is to use the “google him” responses as useful, each of you pick your choice for president right now, and google them. You will find pages and pages of associations, wrongdoings, evil encounters, and the like that would turn your stomach if you didn’t know better.

    In fact, you better not hang out with that Anke Cheney person. The FIRST hit in Google for “Anke Cheney Prince William County” says “Anke Cheney’s Corrosive Influence Spreads”.

    Fortunately, most people are smart enough not to believe what they read on the web, except when it suits their preconceived biases.

  24. James Young said on 20 May 2007 at 9:08 pm:
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    Well, “Batson,” the grassy strip between the sidewalk and the street in front of my home is my property. I certain am charged with its maintenance.

  25. anon said on 20 May 2007 at 10:33 pm:
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    So a former Bush political Appointee who owes quite alot to George Bush has a law partner suing George Bush. Many people would have disassociated themselves from that person if they were in Republican Politics.

  26. Anonymous said on 20 May 2007 at 11:54 pm:
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    Batson D. Belfrey, I was just wondering where on Smoketown road you were talking about?

  27. anon said on 21 May 2007 at 12:12 am:
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    How many die-hard Republicans go into business with a Democrat like Faisal’s done?

    Is that really common, I wonder?

    I know it wouldn’t be my choice. Just like I wouldn’t work for Greenpeace.

    Liberals are great people, but some of their values are considerably different than mine. I wonder if I’d feel true to myself if I partnered with someone whose beliefs were the antithesis of mine.

  28. AWCheney said on 21 May 2007 at 12:23 am:
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    “The FIRST hit in Google for “Anke Cheney Prince William County” says “Anke Cheney’s Corrosive Influence Spreads”.”

    Yeah…from your buddy Jimmy Young’s blog, Skeptical Observer. So, what else is new? That’s really an “oh duh” Charles.

  29. Jonathan Mark said on 21 May 2007 at 3:38 am:
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    “”"I did “Julie Lucas Virginia Prince William County”.

    Got 335,000 hits , first page is all blogs, or articles dealing specifically with this race.”"”

    Charles is making our point for us. When you google Julie, you see what you would expect to see for a local school board official. She is best known at this moment for running for her higher office, and among local bloggers.

    The top five hits for “Faisal Gill,” on the other hand, include denunciations by syndicated columnists Michelle Malkin and Frank Gaffney as well as by Jihad Watch and our own BVBL. The only non-negative hit is Faisal’s own campaign site.

    “”"it shows how you can find things that can be spun like is done here all the time “Julie was sued by a parent and his child after the child was taught how to build a bomb by a school teacher and then expelled when he repeated the experiment”.”"”

    It shows you how Julie opposes terrorists. Faisal Gill worked for one.

    “”"Obviously with 335,000 hits there’s something somewhere,”"”

    Not obviously. Where? What is it that Charles thinks he will find about Julie?

    “”" but the point is that there is nothing really there.”"”

    Agreed. But the point we are making is that something IS there with Faisal Gill. He is the former chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi’s American Muslim Council.

    “”"And to show how stupid it is to use the “google him” responses as useful,”"”

    Googling someone’s name is “stupid” now?

  30. anon said on 21 May 2007 at 9:02 am:
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    If googling someone is so “stupid”, then why do Fortune 500 companies google all of their possible new hires?

    Oh, I know! To find out if they have baggage that would be detrimental to their firm.

    Google Julie Lucas - no baggage.

    Google Faisal Gill - a whole airport conveyor belt full of baggage.

  31. Doug in Mount Vernon said on 21 May 2007 at 1:08 pm:
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    Wow, I actually agree with BVBL!

    Asking voters to “google” your opponent’s name is certainly not an attack. I find it a rather BRILLIANT tactic in this case, and one which can only lead to a deepening of available information to the voter.

    Kudos to the Lucas camp for a very smart move.

  32. John Light said on 21 May 2007 at 1:57 pm:
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    Hey “Freeman” the ONLY thing “cheap” about this is that it does not cost any money to “Google Faisal Gill” which is what I have been telling people everywhere I go.

    As I have said before, “GOOGLE FAISAL GILL” - this guy has more issues (as does Charles and his ilk) than “Time Life” lol

  33. Jonathan Mark said on 21 May 2007 at 3:06 pm:
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    Are people who are not convention delegates allowed to attend the HOD-51 convention on June 2?

    It would be fun if some of us wore “Google Faisal Gill” tee shirts or waved placards. For additional fun we could chant “Google Faisal Gill!”

    Maybe we could have someone in an Abdurahman Alamoudi costume escape from his current federal prison and “greet” his former employee/client Faisal Gill.

    The Alamoudi monster should not wear any ethnic regalia as that would be offensive. Rather, he should be dressed in a prison uniform with a ball and chain and his name on the outfit.

    Given the current situation he should eschew a mock bomb, which would scare people rather than make them laugh.

    He could call out “Faisal! Faisal! Don’t you remember me?”

    Actually, such a person could stand out front in costume in his Alamoudi prison garb and greet attendees, “endorsing” Faisal.

    We could also have a policeman on hand to “arrest” Faisal for his bad driving and his five traffic stops this decade, two of which for speeding were within ten days of each other.

    We want to make sure that every single person who votes for Faisal is aware of the baggage that Faisal carries. In fact, we should bring some pieces of luggage with signs that say “Faisal’s baggage” and lug them around, grunting and groaning about how heavy Faisal’s baggage is.

    The goal will be to provoke Faisal kool-aid drinkers into accusing us, without cause, of being prejudiced. Such an accusation will turn off more people than it attracts and could tip the ballance.

    We know what we need to do to sink this terrorists’ spokesman’s political ambitions for years to come. Let’s have some fun out there!

  34. anon said on 21 May 2007 at 3:07 pm:
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    Keep the evening of the 2nd of June free guys. It’s Gill’s victory party and all of you are invited =) Someone grab Julie and bring her along too… the more, the merrier!

  35. Jonathan Mark said on 21 May 2007 at 3:48 pm:
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    “”"It’s Gill’s victory party and all of you are invited =) Someone grab Julie and bring her along too”"”

    You don’t understand. Gill hasn’t won a damn thing until he wins in November.

    If Gill wins then the people celebrating on June 2 will be the Dems.

  36. Batson D. Belfrey said on 21 May 2007 at 7:43 pm:
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    “Keep the evening of the 2nd of June free guys. It’s Gill’s victory party and all of you are invited =)”

    No thanks. I don’t associate with people of low character, like Gill.

  37. 51st District Good Guy said on 21 May 2007 at 8:02 pm:
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    Low character? That’s right, I forgot… This is America… Where people who serve their county in the United States Navy, The White House, and The Department of Homeland Security are considered people of low character…

    You guys have nothing on Faisal besides “guilt by association”… I guess that makes me a terrorist sympathizer as well, since I support Faisal Gill… I guess that also makes George Bush a terrorist sympathizer as well, seeing that he used to be Faisal Gill’s boss before, on, and after 9/11…

    Keep throwing your darts, boys… Maybe one of them might just hit the bulls-eye…

  38. Jonathan Mark said on 21 May 2007 at 8:53 pm:
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    “”"51st District Good Guy said on 21 May 2007 at 8:02 pm:
    Low character? That’s right, I forgot… This is America… Where people who serve their county in the United States Navy, The White House, and The Department of Homeland Security are considered people of low character…”"”

    This is Virginia, where people who serve the convicted terrorist Abdurahman Alamoudi as chief lobbyist for Alamoudi’s American Muslim Council are considered people of low character.

    If it were otherwise, then Faisal would trumpet his work for the AMC in his resume and campaign lit. Since Faisal does not do so that means that he is ashamed of it.

    “”"You guys have nothing on Faisal besides “guilt by association”…”"”

    No, guilt by employment.

    “”"I guess that makes me a terrorist sympathizer as well, since I support Faisal Gill…”"”

    Well I guess that it makes you a terrorist sympathizer sympathizer or (terrorist ((sympathizer) pow 2)) .

  39. Freedom 2 Choose said on 21 May 2007 at 9:44 pm:
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    Author: Unknown

    A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War Two owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

    “Very few people were true Nazis “he said,” but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.”

    We are told again and again by “experts” and “talking heads” that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace.

    Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.

    It is the fanatics who march.

    It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.

    It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave.

    It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill.

    It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.

    It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals.

    The hard quantifiable fact is that the “peaceful majority” the “silent majority” is cowed and extraneous.

    Communist Russia comprised Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

    China’s huge population, it was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

    The average Japanese individual prior to World War 2 was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel and bayonet.

    And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were “peace loving”?

    History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

    Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don’t speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awake one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

    Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

    As for us who watch it all unfold; we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

    Lastly, at the risk of offending, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, can contribute to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

  40. anon said on 21 May 2007 at 11:19 pm:
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    Vote Gill for delegate! Whoo hoo!!!!!!!

  41. charles said on 22 May 2007 at 12:24 am:
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    John Light said: “this guy has more issues (as does Charles and his ilk)”

    As a good Christian man, JL, would you be so kind as to tell me what my “issues” are? Normally we’d handle this kind of thing privately, but since you’ve chosen a public forum to claim that I have “issues”, I’m curious what those issues are.

    I understand you want Julie to win, and that you see attacking Gill as your best hope for that. But what political gain do you see in extending your target to me?

  42. charles said on 22 May 2007 at 12:26 am:
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    JL, while you’re at it, could you tell me who my “ilk” are, because I seem to have lost them somewhere and can’t remember their names. :-)

    On a more serious note, JL, if you ever make it to a PWC event, or see me in another context, come introduce yourself. I think I’ll do better by you if you have to put a face to the name you throw smears about so easily.

  43. SG918 said on 23 May 2007 at 12:05 am:
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    Simply by looking at the credentials and credibility of both Lucas and Gill, one can easily tell that Lucas seems a bit ‘under-qualified’ to hold such a position. State Delegate is not a walk in the park, nor is it some sissy position like the Chairman of a Boys/Girls club. Although she should be commended for her efforts in giving back to the community, do you all really find her to be credible enough to hold such a position? What experience does she have? Her whack BA in Poli Sci and WHAT leadership experience should allow her the oppurtunity to represent the 51st district? Lucas owns some small Mom n’ Pop Financial Services Firm, but has her Firm been recognized at all for ANYTHING? Julie has been working with the Republican Party on campaigns for the last seven years, but she’s never been recognized for any major accomplishments. Why so? Maybe because she’s not qualified. So Julie’s father retired from the US Airforce as a Lt. Commander and she feels she can use that to her advantage to show some sense of Civic Duty/Patriotism? Why didn’t Julie follow her father’s foot steps and join the Services? Did she not give a damn about giving back to her Country? [Random side note, Faisal within the next few years should hold the rank of Lt. Commander for the US Navy, as opposed to Julie, who is what? Oh yeah, she’s a loser] So folks, what has Julie Lucas done for this country, or even her county? She’s held a position on the School Board (whooo-dee-doo), and is involved with the Youth, but how does any of that demonstrate a sense of Leadership/responsibility? Has she been the Head Honcho for any of the associations she takes part in? I just find her to be a bit under-qualified for Delegate and think she should stick to selling Girl Scouts Cookies in front of Wal Mart (no pun intended).

    I’m sure many of you will throw the same trash back at me; Affiliation with terrorists, AMC, etc, but folks, do you really think you have more knowledge than the FBI and OIG of the DHS? If they can clear Gill of all charges, why cant you? If Gill can still hold his Top Secret Clearance, and the respect of many people at the Department of Homeland Security, White House, etc - then why should we continue to bash him for meaningless allegations. Sure you can ‘google him’, but no matter how much you search on google (hell you can even ask Jeeves for God’s sake), how come you never will be able to find charges against Gill? I hope common sense is common to some of you, and I should not have to answer my own questions.

    In conclusion, I just ask you all to take a look at Lucas’s accomplishments, credibility, and bio and Gill’s and then use your minds.

  44. SG918 said on 23 May 2007 at 12:10 am:
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    Correction: Faisal *currently* holds the rank of Lt Commander for the US Navy and is soon to be promoted to Captain.

  45. Jonathan Mark said on 23 May 2007 at 1:37 am:
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    “”"do you really think you have more knowledge than the FBI”"”

    Tell us more. I was not aware that the FBI had ever investigated Gill himself. We do know that the FBI questioned Gill’s current law and lobbying partner Asim Ghafoor in 2004. The FBI also eavesdropped on Ghafoor’s foreign phone calls to a Specially Designated Terrorist Entity called Al-Haramain in Saudi Arabia.

    I would like to know when the FBI investigated Gill (not simply Ghafoor), what the charges were, what the result was, and how you know about it.

    Did Gill himself say that the FBI has investigated him? That information is certainly not on any of his websites. What is the basis for your claim?

  46. Greg L said on 23 May 2007 at 1:49 am:
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    SG918,

    Julie Lucas has actually held elected office and has a track record. She’s running against someone who has never held office, run the taxpayer’s alliance into the ground out of neglect, and did a crummy job as PWCRC Vice-Chair.

    Bring on this discussion of qualifications, please. Faisal Gill has none.

  47. AWCheney said on 23 May 2007 at 1:59 am:
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    SG918, I seriously doubt that Gill would jump from Lt. Commander to Captain in a single promotion. What’s your source for THAT?

  48. anon said on 23 May 2007 at 10:18 am:
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    The FBI has not investigated Gill, but it’s just to say that *IF* Gill had Terrorist Allies or was considered a threat to the country, I’m sure they would have - they really dont spare anyone nowadays, so why would they spare him? Think about it realisitically.

  49. SG 918 said on 23 May 2007 at 10:26 am:
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    I had posted a correction thread but I guess it was deleted. Gill’s next post will be Commander, not Captain. If the host would stop deleting people’s comments, we wouldn’t have this issue.

    [Ed note: comments which contain a single word look suspiciously like comment spam. Sorry for the quick finger on the delete button.]

  50. Jonathan Mark said on 23 May 2007 at 11:33 am:
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    “”"The FBI has not investigated Gill,”"”

    I do not believe that the FBI has investigated Gill either. However Gill’s supporters REPEATEDLY claim that the FBI has investigated Gill and that the FBI has cleared him.

    For instance, some Gill kool-aid drinker posted earlier in this thread:

    “”"Folks, do you really think you have more knowledge than the FBI and OIG of the DHS? If they can clear Gill of all charges, why cant you?”"”

    In order for the FBI to “clear Gill of all charges” the FBI would have to first investigate Gill. The FBI cannot clear anyone of all charges without an investigation.

  51. anon said on 23 May 2007 at 1:02 pm:
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    The FBI administers Security Clearances, and well, Gill held a top secret clearance. So duh, they cleared him. Common sense folks, common sense.

  52. Jonathan Mark said on 23 May 2007 at 3:18 pm:
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    “”"The FBI administers Security Clearances,”"”

    No, they do not. The Defense Security Service does.

    http://fas.org/sgp//congress/2000/kwalwasser.html

    There is also the Office of Security of the DHS.

    http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0906/092006j1.htm

    “”"”and well, Gill held a top secret clearance. So duh, they cleared him. Common sense folks, common sense.”"”

    The witlessly stupid nature of the above comment shows that Faisal’s kool-aid drinkers do not even know that they do not know.

    No wonder the poster is named “anon.” I would be ashamed also.

  53. Anonymous said on 23 May 2007 at 3:57 pm:
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    Unless Faisal’s brother did the investigation, we will never know for sure. Too bad Faisal’s law partner is under investigation. That seems a little too close for confort.

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