Comments on: Overcrowding By Design http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Thu, 17 May 2012 07:22:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Maureen Wood http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1529 Maureen Wood Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:24:33 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1529 I would love to, but you have to give me some time to work on it. I have done a lot of research on this and do have a few idea's. Actually I have a BIG idea that will take a lot of work and I will share it with you when I find out how to accomplish it. I would love to, but you have to give me some time to work on it. I have done a lot of research on this and do have a few idea’s. Actually I have a BIG idea that will take a lot of work and I will share it with you when I find out how to accomplish it.

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1468 Greg L Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:37:55 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1468 Maureen, How would you like to guest post something which talks about the options available for localities to tackle this problem? Maureen,

How would you like to guest post something which talks about the options available for localities to tackle this problem?

]]> By: Maureen Wood http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1467 Maureen Wood Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:43:47 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1467 Limiting the number of people per bedroom space in a house is the most logical way to go. That would have been done along time ago if the city was able to do that. Because of the Dillon Rule this is not an option. Limiting the number of people per bedroom space in a house is the most logical way to go. That would have been done along time ago if the city was able to do that. Because of the Dillon Rule this is not an option.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1464 Anonymous Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:48:37 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1464 Greg, I just can't say anything else w/o seeking council. However, I do think that you're more right than wrong. BTW, If you or anyone else wanted to sit down for an off the record discussion, I'd be happy to. The City's current situation would necessarily be off-limits but I'd be happy to share everything else. Greg,

I just can’t say anything else w/o seeking council. However, I do think that you’re more right than wrong.

BTW, If you or anyone else wanted to sit down for an off the record discussion, I’d be happy to. The City’s current situation would necessarily be off-limits but I’d be happy to share everything else.

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1462 Greg L Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:49:11 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1462 Andy, Thanks for weighing in to the extent you're able. Although your observation is brilliant, the electorate is so absolutely behind this idea that getting it passed would not at all be difficult. How the council may choose to write the ordinance, whether it's an additional restrction on the number of occupants based on the number of bedrooms or some other objective criteria, I really think this is doable. Last time it all got hung up over a definition of the word "family" as it pertains to the ordinance. Sidestepping that, or otherwise avoiding hot-button terms will make it a lot easier to have an ordinance withstand challenge. Doing nothing is not a viable option. I'd actually rather see a fight which movers the debate along, even if it's uncertain whether an ordinance would stand. It's worth it, and worth trying. Andy,

Thanks for weighing in to the extent you’re able. Although your observation is brilliant, the electorate is so absolutely behind this idea that getting it passed would not at all be difficult. How the council may choose to write the ordinance, whether it’s an additional restrction on the number of occupants based on the number of bedrooms or some other objective criteria, I really think this is doable. Last time it all got hung up over a definition of the word “family” as it pertains to the ordinance. Sidestepping that, or otherwise avoiding hot-button terms will make it a lot easier to have an ordinance withstand challenge.

Doing nothing is not a viable option. I’d actually rather see a fight which movers the debate along, even if it’s uncertain whether an ordinance would stand. It’s worth it, and worth trying.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1460 Anonymous Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:23:39 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1460 Greg: I wouldn't bet that it would clear all legal hurdles. If my experience is any guide, new hurdles wil be created if there aren't sufficient obstacles. I have a lot to say about this but now isn't the right time. -Andy H Greg:

I wouldn’t bet that it would clear all legal hurdles. If my experience is any guide, new hurdles wil be created if there aren’t sufficient obstacles.

I have a lot to say about this but now isn’t the right time.

-Andy H

]]> By: Joe Budzinski http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1457 Joe Budzinski Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:48:50 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1457 You might get a kick out of this if you haven't seen it http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4159 You might get a kick out of this if you haven’t seen it

http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4159

]]> By: Joe Budzinski http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1456 Joe Budzinski Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:26:21 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1456 Get organized and build a group. A huge number of your fellow residents are right there with you on this but the vast majority have no idea what they can do about it. Talking to politicians can be particularly frustrating as even the ones whose hearts are in the right place are inclined to pass it off as a federal issue. Tightening the ordinance and convincing the public officials to direct resources to zoning enforcement is key - and so is going after the employers. Contact me directly sometime and I'll fill you in on what we are doing in Loudoun. Get organized and build a group. A huge number of your fellow residents are right there with you on this but the vast majority have no idea what they can do about it. Talking to politicians can be particularly frustrating as even the ones whose hearts are in the right place are inclined to pass it off as a federal issue.

Tightening the ordinance and convincing the public officials to direct resources to zoning enforcement is key - and so is going after the employers.

Contact me directly sometime and I’ll fill you in on what we are doing in Loudoun.

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1455 Greg L Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:34:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1455 I'll bet that if a similar tightening of the overcrowding ordinance was proposed now, it would pass and if well crafted would clear any legal hurdles as well. I wonder if there's a Manassas City Resident that might want to spearhead this sort of effort, perhaps someone with a political future, who might benefit from some additional exposure regarding a popular policy? Hmmm. I’ll bet that if a similar tightening of the overcrowding ordinance was proposed now, it would pass and if well crafted would clear any legal hurdles as well. I wonder if there’s a Manassas City Resident that might want to spearhead this sort of effort, perhaps someone with a political future, who might benefit from some additional exposure regarding a popular policy? Hmmm.

]]> By: Maureen Wood http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1453 Maureen Wood Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:06:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/08/31/overcrowding-by-design/#comment-1453 It's the same in Manassas. That is why we tried to do something about it earlier in the year. But people like Rishell and the ACLU made our city council back off of it. Most of this wouldn't be nessecary if the Federal government would enforce our current immigration laws. It’s the same in Manassas. That is why we tried to do something about it earlier in the year. But people like Rishell and the ACLU made our city council back off of it.

Most of this wouldn’t be nessecary if the Federal government would enforce our current immigration laws.

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