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	<title>Comments on: 287(g) Program In Prince William Almost Certain Now</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/</link>
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		<title>By: Andy H</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5320</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5320</guid>
		<description>Greg is right, sentences must be served first in VA as Allen did away with parole (not a crticism).  However, in CA they addressed this by allowing the criminal to serve part of his sentence (I think it's a percentage) and then turning them over to ICE.  There's upside and there's a distinct negative.

Distinct upside is that we don't have to pay room and board for a criminal alien and we get that same person out of the country.

Downside is that criminal aliens know that after X years they will be shipped home and are free to do whatever.  It doesn't take much of an imagination to see the look of horror on someone's face when they realize the recently convicted scumbag who murdered their loved one will be sent home in the not too distant future.

It's a real balancing act and we may end up with a conditional parole law that doesn't deport the violent felons or some such.

BTW, I expect the dog is right.  Federal and State gov't are not much help to the locals.  There has been a decades long drive in Washington to push responsibilities down to the local level.  When it first started (as such things do), it included money.  Now it is just mandates and the money is spent building "Fortress Washington" or underground visitor centers or whatever the congress critters want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg is right, sentences must be served first in VA as Allen did away with parole (not a crticism).  However, in CA they addressed this by allowing the criminal to serve part of his sentence (I think it&#8217;s a percentage) and then turning them over to ICE.  There&#8217;s upside and there&#8217;s a distinct negative.</p>
<p>Distinct upside is that we don&#8217;t have to pay room and board for a criminal alien and we get that same person out of the country.</p>
<p>Downside is that criminal aliens know that after X years they will be shipped home and are free to do whatever.  It doesn&#8217;t take much of an imagination to see the look of horror on someone&#8217;s face when they realize the recently convicted scumbag who murdered their loved one will be sent home in the not too distant future.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real balancing act and we may end up with a conditional parole law that doesn&#8217;t deport the violent felons or some such.</p>
<p>BTW, I expect the dog is right.  Federal and State gov&#8217;t are not much help to the locals.  There has been a decades long drive in Washington to push responsibilities down to the local level.  When it first started (as such things do), it included money.  Now it is just mandates and the money is spent building &#8220;Fortress Washington&#8221; or underground visitor centers or whatever the congress critters want.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5318</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5318</guid>
		<description>Well, I have to give credit to both Deane and Skinner for their support of this program.    Perhaps, they have had time to rethink their position and realized how stupid it was for them to hold such an opionion with the jobs they hold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have to give credit to both Deane and Skinner for their support of this program.    Perhaps, they have had time to rethink their position and realized how stupid it was for them to hold such an opionion with the jobs they hold.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5316</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5316</guid>
		<description>Know this isn't exactly on topic, but I want to thank
 Wally Covington for standing up and asking a core
 question - how much do illegal immigrants cost LOCAL
 government? (See piece on op/ed page of today's WaPo).

 We should be able to get a ball park number even if PWC
 staff seems to want to drag their feet. 

 Then, we can deal with facts - and not just the raw
 emotion on both sides of this issue.

 My bet is that illegal immigration will prove to add
 some revenue at the federal  and state levels, but
 is a huge drain on LOCAL resources. 

 Plus, all we get from Washington and Richmond now are
 unfunded mandates and  costly lawsuits.  They
 won't help us and attack us when we try to help
 ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know this isn&#8217;t exactly on topic, but I want to thank<br />
 Wally Covington for standing up and asking a core<br />
 question - how much do illegal immigrants cost LOCAL<br />
 government? (See piece on op/ed page of today&#8217;s WaPo).</p>
<p> We should be able to get a ball park number even if PWC<br />
 staff seems to want to drag their feet. </p>
<p> Then, we can deal with facts - and not just the raw<br />
 emotion on both sides of this issue.</p>
<p> My bet is that illegal immigration will prove to add<br />
 some revenue at the federal  and state levels, but<br />
 is a huge drain on LOCAL resources. </p>
<p> Plus, all we get from Washington and Richmond now are<br />
 unfunded mandates and  costly lawsuits.  They<br />
 won&#8217;t help us and attack us when we try to help<br />
 ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5314</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5314</guid>
		<description>Yes, from the presentation the deportations happen after the sentences are completed.  We may have to revisit some of the legislation passed over the last several years regarding parole in order to get them out of our system earlier, but this has both negative as well as positive implications.

At least this would ensure that those released from custody are not released directly back into the local community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, from the presentation the deportations happen after the sentences are completed.  We may have to revisit some of the legislation passed over the last several years regarding parole in order to get them out of our system earlier, but this has both negative as well as positive implications.</p>
<p>At least this would ensure that those released from custody are not released directly back into the local community.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5308</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5308</guid>
		<description>I believe, Joe, that they must serve their sentences first, but that's only based on folklore.  Maybe someone familiar with immigration law reads this blog and can answer that question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe, Joe, that they must serve their sentences first, but that&#8217;s only based on folklore.  Maybe someone familiar with immigration law reads this blog and can answer that question.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5307</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/20/287g-program-in-prince-william-almost-certain-now/#comment-5307</guid>
		<description>Question: 

Do the criminals have to serve out their sentence before being deported? What about the concern that after these felons are deported they will sneak back into the United States soon after arriving 'home.' I'm just curious ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: </p>
<p>Do the criminals have to serve out their sentence before being deported? What about the concern that after these felons are deported they will sneak back into the United States soon after arriving &#8216;home.&#8217; I&#8217;m just curious &#8230;.</p>
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