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	<title>Comments on: MJM Sells Out To Mexicanos Sin Fronteras</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Citizen Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5383</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5383</guid>
		<description>Jackson Miller,  thanks for the comment.  

I appreciate your conservatism and the fact you raised the issue of illegal immigration in your last election.  Although I am represented in the General Assembly by other folks, I was rooting for you, and I congratulate on your victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackson Miller,  thanks for the comment.  </p>
<p>I appreciate your conservatism and the fact you raised the issue of illegal immigration in your last election.  Although I am represented in the General Assembly by other folks, I was rooting for you, and I congratulate on your victory.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5382</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5382</guid>
		<description>If I had walked into court with Jose Santos Sibrian Espinoza's record I would've gotten the book thrown at me. Guaranteed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had walked into court with Jose Santos Sibrian Espinoza&#8217;s record I would&#8217;ve gotten the book thrown at me. Guaranteed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5380</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5380</guid>
		<description>Citizen Tom, The program does not necessarily only target people who commit felonies.  It "can" also be used to deport illegal immigrants  who commit misdemeanors, as well as illegal immigrants who are chronic offenders of very petty crimes (such as some of the homeless illegal immigrants who are arrested dozens of times for being drunk in public.  Your classic town drunk types.  the chronic drunk in public subject is not necessarily a dangerous person or the "worst of the worst" but they are a huge drain on our resources.)  

How the program is used depends upon how the agreement is reached between I.C.E. and the participating locality.  Apparently the M.O.U. between the participating locality and Homeland Security can be different from locality to locality.

I will say as I have said already,  this program makes perfect sense.  Yes its only a small step, (for a huge problem) but its the right step.

BTW, anonymous and Gurduloo - In many cases there is no jail sentence for being convicted for driving on a suspended license.  Especially first time offenders. However in many cases jail time is handed down.  It depends on the circumstances of the case and the Judge.

Greg, sorry its been a couple of weeks since I've had time to check out your blog.  as usual the reading is fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen Tom, The program does not necessarily only target people who commit felonies.  It &#8220;can&#8221; also be used to deport illegal immigrants  who commit misdemeanors, as well as illegal immigrants who are chronic offenders of very petty crimes (such as some of the homeless illegal immigrants who are arrested dozens of times for being drunk in public.  Your classic town drunk types.  the chronic drunk in public subject is not necessarily a dangerous person or the &#8220;worst of the worst&#8221; but they are a huge drain on our resources.)  </p>
<p>How the program is used depends upon how the agreement is reached between I.C.E. and the participating locality.  Apparently the M.O.U. between the participating locality and Homeland Security can be different from locality to locality.</p>
<p>I will say as I have said already,  this program makes perfect sense.  Yes its only a small step, (for a huge problem) but its the right step.</p>
<p>BTW, anonymous and Gurduloo - In many cases there is no jail sentence for being convicted for driving on a suspended license.  Especially first time offenders. However in many cases jail time is handed down.  It depends on the circumstances of the case and the Judge.</p>
<p>Greg, sorry its been a couple of weeks since I&#8217;ve had time to check out your blog.  as usual the reading is fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5372</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5372</guid>
		<description>I heard a story -- not sure if it's true -- where a central american nation was reluctant to accept their nationals back who had been deported.  ICE got the USAF to fly them all in a C-130 down to one of their airports, they made a landing without permission from the tower, and literally threw them all off the ramp of the aircraft at the bottom of the runway.  The aircraft then took off and returned home.

Not a bad training mission, although most of the time tactical airlifts like this would have infantry in the aircraft that they would want to recover after a mission.  After a couple of these drop-offs I'll bet the nation(s) involved start negotiating, as it must really drive them nuts to have folks dropped off without warning on the tarmac like this.

I can imagine seeing this happen in a place like Trujillo, Honduras.  With no tower and a dirt strip that's crossed by a road, this would be very doable.  About the only hazard would be local residents crossing the runway while the aircraft is on final, which I've seen.  If you offloaded a gaggle of deportees it would take at least a half hour for the local military unit or police force to respond, by which time the aircraft would have been long gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a story &#8212; not sure if it&#8217;s true &#8212; where a central american nation was reluctant to accept their nationals back who had been deported.  ICE got the USAF to fly them all in a C-130 down to one of their airports, they made a landing without permission from the tower, and literally threw them all off the ramp of the aircraft at the bottom of the runway.  The aircraft then took off and returned home.</p>
<p>Not a bad training mission, although most of the time tactical airlifts like this would have infantry in the aircraft that they would want to recover after a mission.  After a couple of these drop-offs I&#8217;ll bet the nation(s) involved start negotiating, as it must really drive them nuts to have folks dropped off without warning on the tarmac like this.</p>
<p>I can imagine seeing this happen in a place like Trujillo, Honduras.  With no tower and a dirt strip that&#8217;s crossed by a road, this would be very doable.  About the only hazard would be local residents crossing the runway while the aircraft is on final, which I&#8217;ve seen.  If you offloaded a gaggle of deportees it would take at least a half hour for the local military unit or police force to respond, by which time the aircraft would have been long gone.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5370</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5370</guid>
		<description>Just air-drop 'em with a parachute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just air-drop &#8216;em with a parachute.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5369</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5369</guid>
		<description>I'm for 287(g), but Citizen Tom is right folks -
 don't over expect - this isn't the Great Solution. 

 Another angle is that the convicted individual must
 be "papered up" in their country of origin - and most
 countries don't place a high priority on these bad 
 guys returning to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m for 287(g), but Citizen Tom is right folks -<br />
 don&#8217;t over expect - this isn&#8217;t the Great Solution. </p>
<p> Another angle is that the convicted individual must<br />
 be &#8220;papered up&#8221; in their country of origin - and most<br />
 countries don&#8217;t place a high priority on these bad<br />
 guys returning to them.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5366</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5366</guid>
		<description>Oh, while I'm on the subject, a Class 1 misdemeanor is punishable by up to 1 year in jail and/or a $2500 fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, while I&#8217;m on the subject, a Class 1 misdemeanor is punishable by up to 1 year in jail and/or a $2500 fine.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5365</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5365</guid>
		<description>Then he wasn't charged with driving on a suspended license. Driving on a suspended license is a Class 1 misdemeanor which means you MUST go to court. It is the same as reckless driving--both are Class 1 misdemeanors. You cannot simply pay a fine.

B. Except as provided in §§ 46.2-304 and 46.2-357, no resident or nonresident (i) whose driver's license, learner's permit, or privilege to drive a motor vehicle has been suspended or revoked or (ii) who has been directed not to drive by any court or by the Commissioner, or (iii) who has been forbidden, as prescribed by operation of any statute of the Commonwealth or a substantially similar ordinance of any county, city or town, to operate a motor vehicle in the Commonwealth shall thereafter drive any motor vehicle or any self-propelled machinery or equipment on any highway in the Commonwealth until the period of such suspension or revocation has terminated or the privilege has been reinstated. A clerk's notice of suspension of license for failure to pay fines or costs given in accordance with § 46.2-395 shall be sufficient notice for the purpose of maintaining a conviction under this section. For the purposes of this section, the phrase "motor vehicle or any self-propelled machinery or equipment" shall not include mopeds. 

C. A violation of subsection B is a Class 1 misdemeanor. A third or subsequent offense occurring within a 10-year period shall include a mandatory minimum term of confinement in jail of 10 days. However, the court shall not be required to impose a mandatory minimum term of confinement in any case where a motor vehicle is operated in violation of this section in a situation of apparent extreme emergency which requires such operation to save life or limb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then he wasn&#8217;t charged with driving on a suspended license. Driving on a suspended license is a Class 1 misdemeanor which means you MUST go to court. It is the same as reckless driving&#8211;both are Class 1 misdemeanors. You cannot simply pay a fine.</p>
<p>B. Except as provided in §§ 46.2-304 and 46.2-357, no resident or nonresident (i) whose driver&#8217;s license, learner&#8217;s permit, or privilege to drive a motor vehicle has been suspended or revoked or (ii) who has been directed not to drive by any court or by the Commissioner, or (iii) who has been forbidden, as prescribed by operation of any statute of the Commonwealth or a substantially similar ordinance of any county, city or town, to operate a motor vehicle in the Commonwealth shall thereafter drive any motor vehicle or any self-propelled machinery or equipment on any highway in the Commonwealth until the period of such suspension or revocation has terminated or the privilege has been reinstated. A clerk&#8217;s notice of suspension of license for failure to pay fines or costs given in accordance with § 46.2-395 shall be sufficient notice for the purpose of maintaining a conviction under this section. For the purposes of this section, the phrase &#8220;motor vehicle or any self-propelled machinery or equipment&#8221; shall not include mopeds. </p>
<p>C. A violation of subsection B is a Class 1 misdemeanor. A third or subsequent offense occurring within a 10-year period shall include a mandatory minimum term of confinement in jail of 10 days. However, the court shall not be required to impose a mandatory minimum term of confinement in any case where a motor vehicle is operated in violation of this section in a situation of apparent extreme emergency which requires such operation to save life or limb.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5364</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5364</guid>
		<description>I think it's funny how the MJM used to allow comments on more stories related to illegal aliens than they do now.

They also more heavily moderate the comments on the stories where they still allow them.

I guess it's because the illegal-alien appologist comments were vastly outnumbered..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny how the MJM used to allow comments on more stories related to illegal aliens than they do now.</p>
<p>They also more heavily moderate the comments on the stories where they still allow them.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s because the illegal-alien appologist comments were vastly outnumbered..</p>
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		<title>By: Gurduloo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5363</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurduloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5363</guid>
		<description>Gee... I spoke to my brother in law... and he's not in jail.  He just had to pay a fine.  He didn't even have to go to court for it.  Doesn't sound like luck to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee&#8230; I spoke to my brother in law&#8230; and he&#8217;s not in jail.  He just had to pay a fine.  He didn&#8217;t even have to go to court for it.  Doesn&#8217;t sound like luck to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5362</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5362</guid>
		<description>It is easy to figure out why the MJM supports the illegals.  The MJM now has a spanish languge newspaper.   Would they sell many papers with an anti-illegal immigration stance?  Nope, therefore, the MJM supports illegal immigration.   

Recall their "Get over It" editorial from this past summer.  The editorial bascally said that if anyone was offended by the large number of foreign flags flying at the pro illegal immigration rallies, to get over it.  It went on to say that only those offended by such flags were small minded etc.   

Well, unless a crime of an illegal hits close to home at the MJM, I doubt the paper will have a change of opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy to figure out why the MJM supports the illegals.  The MJM now has a spanish languge newspaper.   Would they sell many papers with an anti-illegal immigration stance?  Nope, therefore, the MJM supports illegal immigration.   </p>
<p>Recall their &#8220;Get over It&#8221; editorial from this past summer.  The editorial bascally said that if anyone was offended by the large number of foreign flags flying at the pro illegal immigration rallies, to get over it.  It went on to say that only those offended by such flags were small minded etc.   </p>
<p>Well, unless a crime of an illegal hits close to home at the MJM, I doubt the paper will have a change of opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5361</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5361</guid>
		<description>I spoke to Jackson Miller and he concurred with my observations about driving on a suspended and jail time.

I figure he ought to know, being a PW County police officer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke to Jackson Miller and he concurred with my observations about driving on a suspended and jail time.</p>
<p>I figure he ought to know, being a PW County police officer.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5360</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5360</guid>
		<description>He got very lucky if he's not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got very lucky if he&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurduloo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5358</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurduloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5358</guid>
		<description>I guess my brother in law is sitting in jail right now then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my brother in law is sitting in jail right now then?</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5356</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5356</guid>
		<description>Not based on what I've seen in the Prince William County Court Case information system.

If you drive on a suspended, expect jail time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not based on what I&#8217;ve seen in the Prince William County Court Case information system.</p>
<p>If you drive on a suspended, expect jail time.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurduloo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5354</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurduloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5354</guid>
		<description>My brother in law got busted for driving on a suspended license and didn't do any jail time.  I think it's considered a pretty minor offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother in law got busted for driving on a suspended license and didn&#8217;t do any jail time.  I think it&#8217;s considered a pretty minor offense.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5351</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5351</guid>
		<description>This rap sheet here:

http://www.novatownhall.com/blog/graphics/espinoza_rap_sheet.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This rap sheet here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.novatownhall.com/blog/graphics/espinoza_rap_sheet.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.novatownhall.com/blog/graphics/espinoza_rap_sheet.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5350</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5350</guid>
		<description>Did anyone who looked at this guy's rap sheet notice that he got off on a driving with a suspended license?

Methinks if you're a legal citizen you can pretty much expect jail time for that. But, as we know, illegal aliens are a protected class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone who looked at this guy&#8217;s rap sheet notice that he got off on a driving with a suspended license?</p>
<p>Methinks if you&#8217;re a legal citizen you can pretty much expect jail time for that. But, as we know, illegal aliens are a protected class.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy H</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5346</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5346</guid>
		<description>NJH:

If a person commits a crime, is arrested and found to be a convicted felon who was already successfully deported, the police/ADC can already process him/her with the ICE folks.  287(g) doesn't change this. 

The real advantage of 287(g) to the localities is that it allows properly trained personnel to attempt to discern someone's status without them having a prior felony arrest, conviction and deportation.  Persons eligible for this course of action are usually limited to those who are eventually convicted of felonies.

The way to think about this is that with 287(g) local police can have someone deported the first time they are convicted of a felony.  Without it, they can only process repeat felons who have already been convicted and deported.

As a final note, the big problem with the 287(g) program is the way it is charactarized by the media.  They seem all too eager to get right to "papers please" when 287 really deals exclusively with criminals.  Wether you are a friend or foe of illegal immigration, I don't expect that you want violent criminals of any stripe wandering around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJH:</p>
<p>If a person commits a crime, is arrested and found to be a convicted felon who was already successfully deported, the police/ADC can already process him/her with the ICE folks.  287(g) doesn&#8217;t change this. </p>
<p>The real advantage of 287(g) to the localities is that it allows properly trained personnel to attempt to discern someone&#8217;s status without them having a prior felony arrest, conviction and deportation.  Persons eligible for this course of action are usually limited to those who are eventually convicted of felonies.</p>
<p>The way to think about this is that with 287(g) local police can have someone deported the first time they are convicted of a felony.  Without it, they can only process repeat felons who have already been convicted and deported.</p>
<p>As a final note, the big problem with the 287(g) program is the way it is charactarized by the media.  They seem all too eager to get right to &#8220;papers please&#8221; when 287 really deals exclusively with criminals.  Wether you are a friend or foe of illegal immigration, I don&#8217;t expect that you want violent criminals of any stripe wandering around.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Jack Herrity</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2006/12/21/mjm-sells-out-to-mexicanos-sin-fronteras/#comment-5342</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Jack Herrity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deportation and exclusion proceedings are remarkably efficient when they are used.  It is remarkably difficult for any lawyer to slow down the deportation of a gang member who's previously been deported.  Remember, deportation is an administrative process, not a criminal one.  That means aliens are not entitled to court-appointed lawyers and they are not entitled to judicial review of a final order of deportation or exclusion.  When used the right way, these processes are a thing of beauty.

NJH</description>
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<p>NJH</p>
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