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Riley Gets Some Documents
By Greg L | 10 January 2007 | 51st HOD District | 8 Comments
Tonight Jim Riley has posted two documents from Faisal Gill. One is a one page letter from acting Inspector General Richard Skinner dated February 11th, 2005 which says that their investigation of Faisal Gill has been closed. It’s about what I expected to see.
The second document is an Executive Branch Personnel Public Financial Disclosure Report dated November 29th, 2001 where Faisal Gill discloses that he received payments of $6,000 from the Islamic Institute and $10,000 from the American Muslim Council for “political consulting”. According to many news reports, Faisal Gill reported on his SF 86 that he did not work for the American Muslim Council or the Islamic Institute, but for AG Consulting Group. If these documents are accurate, and differ from Faisal Gill’s security clearance as reported, it would seem that Faisal Gill may have committed a felony offense.
So now we have documentation that Faisal Gill was a paid consultant for convicted terrorist Abduraman Alamoudi, who famously declared in front of the White House the following:
“We are all supporters of Hamas. Allahu Akhbar! . . . I am also a supporter of Hezbollah.”
I think Alamoudi didn’t get his money’s worth. Thanks for posting those documents, Jim!
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I don’t know Mr. Gill and had never heard of him until a few weeks ago. I would probably qualify as an average Republican voter who’s never heard of him and has no preconceptions about him. I heard his name as a candidate and googled him as I do with every candidate whose name I don’t know. What came up was quite frightful, although now, it seems as though this man may have been falsely accused. If Republicans that are informed politically are this fragmented by this man, it isn’t good.
I’m sorry if Mr. Gill loses his chance due to a bad break, but the party must choose a candidate that can pass the smell test of average Republicans leaning voters. The party must field candidates that are credible candidates. These average Northern Virginia Republican leaning voters have shown that they are willing to step over the line and vote Democrat if the Republican choice is unpalatable to them, i.e. Jerry Kilgore, George Allen. Baggage is baggage, whether you purposely packed it or someone else smuggled something into your bags.
If Mr. Gill is innocent, couldn’t the party find him a position of prominence within the party and find someone else with no baggage to run in this important election? We’ve got good decent conservative citizens with clean histories in this county, where are they hiding?
anon, in case you were still sleeping when you read this post it appears that Faisal Gill has managed to provide documentation which demonstrates that he provided false information on his security clearance application. On the SF86 he states that he worked for “AG Consulting Group”. On this disclosure he says he worked for the Islamic Institute and the American Muslim Council. One of these statements has to be false, since they can’t both be true.
Faisal Gill tried to explain away the whole blowup about his security clearance by saying that he did disclose the association with these organizations, but that folks looking at the evidence hadn’t realized that he was working as a contractor, and not directly for the Islamic Institute and the AMC. That was his entire defense. Now we see in a document that pre-dates his SF86 that when not concerned about the impact of being denied a securioty clearance he states that he worked directly for these organizations which had ties to terrorism.
Faisal Gill has just been caught in a lie. The original charges in “The Faisal Gill” affair appear to have been somewhat substantiated by Faisal Gill himself. And despite the whitewash of an investigation that was conducted in order to provide political cover, it seems that the accusations were right on target.
Red Velvet Sponge Pants,
Abduraman Alamoudi’s declaration
is about as likely as him supporting the O’s and the Yankees. Where do you get this stuff?
You’ve taken documents that prove Faisel didn’t hide his association, and you are trying to use them to claim he did. Nice work if it works for you.
I don’t work for the Potomac News.
But somehow, every month I get a check from them, which I would disclose as income.
Are you going to call me a liar? Or are you going to use that considerable brain of yours to realise that a consultant can get paid directly by the people he is consulting for, and also join a consulting group which would pay him and obtain consulting fees from them as well?
On a security form, working for has a meaning that doesn’t include consulting and getting money from. That goes on a different form, which is exactly where Faisel put it.
Now we have even more proof that Faisel was careful to disclose all his arrangements, and that should satisfy anybody who isn’t being sued for libel by someone who hired Faisel to represent him.
I’ve worked for several companies as a consultant for about 15 years, and always was paid by the consulting company. If he was being paid directly by the client, it was more of an employment service than a consulting firm, in which case he would have been required to identify the Islamic Institute and the AMC as his actual employers (the ones who employed him and PAID him) rather than the organization that arranged for that employment.
By listing “AG Consulting” as the employer, who never actually paid him, it really looks to me that he was trying to hide his association with the AMC and the Islamic Institute specifically on his SF86.
At least that’s the way it looks to me.
Also, I recall that on the SF86 you are required to disclose if you worked at the employer or a client site. If he put down “AMC Consulting” and failed to identify that his place of work was actually at client sites, that would also be a violation.
“I’ve worked for several companies as a consultant for about 15 years, and always was paid by the consulting company. If he was being paid directly by the client, it was more of an employment service than a consulting firm,”
So have I, and would agree that in this situation, the relationship would appear to be that of a “contract employee”, or as we most commonly call them, “contractors”.
We can all go round and round with this. Maybe Gill was just in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong people. The real question is, “Can he be elected?” I would have to say no. Some will say that the voters are sophisticated enough to look past any negative hay the Dems could make out of this. Really? I believe that George Allen would disagree. I also think that it is foolish to believe that it won’t matter in a Gneral election. It will.
I was trying to give Gill the benefit of doubt. Maybe he’s got ties to terrorism; maybe he’s been falsely accused as far as the disclosure. It doesn’t really matter when you talk about votes because my point was he couldn’t get elected. Anyone who googles his name or hears this business is going to think “yuck” and when average voters think “yuck” that candidate doesn’t get elected. 99% of people are not going to listen to a Mr. Gill’s rational explanation. People who do search farther will realize he took on a law partner who definitely has ties to terrorism.
Maybe if we lived in a county with a very high percentage of Muslim voters who understood the nuances of the Middle East, he’d have a chance. But your average 51st voter doesn’t usually have people at their neighborhood cookouts that have been tied that closely, whether falsely or not, to terrorism. Although we may pretend in this time of political correctness to not stereotype or show bias, the immediate visceral reaction to a connection like this is abhorrence. The 51st is far too close to the Pentagon to get over their distrust.
If Mr. Gill is the Republican candidate, our only hope would be that the “yuck” factor of the nominated democrat would be seriously higher, and we can’t count on that.
Good grief…surely somewhere out there in the entire 51st, is a decent Republican sans baggage that a voter could google up without coming up with names like “Almoudi”, “Hezbollah” and “Hamas”. Come on, are there no other names out there to consider?