Comments on: A Tale Of Two Establishments http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:04:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: BLACK VELVET BRUCE LI : Another Crime In A “Gun Free Zone” http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-49147 BLACK VELVET BRUCE LI : Another Crime In A “Gun Free Zone” Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:44:44 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-49147 [...] or Wachovia, you are out of your mind.  You might as well be consistent and start frequenting biker bars, since at least then you can be amused while you endanger yourself.  At BB&T, you’ll be [...] […] or Wachovia, you are out of your mind.  You might as well be consistent and start frequenting biker bars, since at least then you can be amused while you endanger yourself.  At BB&T, you’ll be […]

]]> By: anonymous humor http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-7219 anonymous humor Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:13:10 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-7219 The motto for the golden phoenix should have been... "Buy a drink get your salad tossed for free" The motto for the golden phoenix should have been…
“Buy a drink get your salad tossed for free”

]]> By: Loyal Patron http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6754 Loyal Patron Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:55:42 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6754 When I got done reading the article and comments I was speechless. But now that more things have come into light I have a few things to say. The Golden Pheonix was a great place to have a great time. Granted some times it got a little to rough for some people to handle but it was a fun place. It's a shame that no hard-core legal actions were put on that places because of the drug use and underage drinking. Rack N Roll is, still, a great place to hang out with friends play some pool. It's a shame for David Ruttenberg that because of the raid and undercover crap that the police and others that were invloved in did to him, his business is now in trouble. The Phoenix is gone and some crappy restaurant is now in it's place so I guess the government has nothing else to worry about. Right? Except for David. He's standing up for his rights and an American citizen and as a proud business owner. When I got done reading the article and comments I was speechless. But now that more things have come into light I have a few things to say. The Golden Pheonix was a great place to have a great time. Granted some times it got a little to rough for some people to handle but it was a fun place. It’s a shame that no hard-core legal actions were put on that places because of the drug use and underage drinking. Rack N Roll is, still, a great place to hang out with friends play some pool. It’s a shame for David Ruttenberg that because of the raid and undercover crap that the police and others that were invloved in did to him, his business is now in trouble. The Phoenix is gone and some crappy restaurant is now in it’s place so I guess the government has nothing else to worry about. Right? Except for David. He’s standing up for his rights and an American citizen and as a proud business owner.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6749 AWCheney Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:46:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6749 In the end people should want justice for David Ruttenberg because they will only finally achieve that government through what he has endured. In the end people should want justice for David Ruttenberg because they will only finally achieve that government through what he has endured.

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6748 Greg L Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:15:53 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6748 Too many folks are going to face the same thing, and I'm going to try to be understanding about people's reactions when they see information that seems to contradict their own experiences. Eventually, the weight of the evidence will be convincing to them, but in the meantime I hope we can understand what that process means for so many who will likely have to face it. In the end everyone just wants the best government Manassas Park can possibly have. Too many folks are going to face the same thing, and I’m going to try to be understanding about people’s reactions when they see information that seems to contradict their own experiences. Eventually, the weight of the evidence will be convincing to them, but in the meantime I hope we can understand what that process means for so many who will likely have to face it.

In the end everyone just wants the best government Manassas Park can possibly have.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6747 AWCheney Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:06:26 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6747 Greg, I have also had positive interactions with some of these folks in the past (I have, after all, been a rather active Republican in this area for quite some time), but that is irrelevent when one is faced with an awful truth...evil comes with many faces and must be recognized as such. My deepest regret and shame is that I was unaware of this evil for so long. Greg, I have also had positive interactions with some of these folks in the past (I have, after all, been a rather active Republican in this area for quite some time), but that is irrelevent when one is faced with an awful truth…evil comes with many faces and must be recognized as such. My deepest regret and shame is that I was unaware of this evil for so long.

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6742 Greg L Thu, 08 Feb 2007 03:47:58 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6742 Anke, Anonon already stated that he/she doesn't want to comment on these threads further, but is keeping an eye on them. Some of it's hard to take, as Anonon knows some of these folks and has had positive interactions with them in the past. This is sort of reality shattering stuff, and not easy to take at first. I've spoken with Anonon about this, and Anonon wishes Dave the best, is concerned about what's been reported, and just wants to have a good place for the kids to grow up. No matter how it all plays out, the end result should be a good community for everyone. So do let not your heart be troubled about Anonon, and don't operate under the assumption that Anonon is on the wrong side. Anke, Anonon already stated that he/she doesn’t want to comment on these threads further, but is keeping an eye on them. Some of it’s hard to take, as Anonon knows some of these folks and has had positive interactions with them in the past. This is sort of reality shattering stuff, and not easy to take at first.

I’ve spoken with Anonon about this, and Anonon wishes Dave the best, is concerned about what’s been reported, and just wants to have a good place for the kids to grow up. No matter how it all plays out, the end result should be a good community for everyone.

So do let not your heart be troubled about Anonon, and don’t operate under the assumption that Anonon is on the wrong side.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6726 AWCheney Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:38:21 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/07/a-tale-of-two-establishments/#comment-6726 Well Anonon, which establishment do you now believe to be the one which gave the Manassas Park Shopping Center its reputation as an "open air drug market?" More importantly, why do you think that so few drug arrests (or arrests of any kind) were made there? I also have to wonder what the disposition was of the one arrest that was actually made. I'd be interested in your comment. Well Anonon, which establishment do you now believe to be the one which gave the Manassas Park Shopping Center its reputation as an “open air drug market?” More importantly, why do you think that so few drug arrests (or arrests of any kind) were made there? I also have to wonder what the disposition was of the one arrest that was actually made. I’d be interested in your comment.

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