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	<title>Comments on: When Perjury Subverts Governing</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Golem</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6993</link>
		<dc:creator>Golem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6993</guid>
		<description>In reviewing this post, I noticed that Greg identifies Jessica Price's statement as a "sworn statement." I also noticed that the statement itself carries no notary or other oath but only Jessica's signature. 

Jessica Price is the sister of Jeffery Price. Jeffery Price was either the dealer or instigator of every marijuana deal alleged by the ABC to have been transacted at RnR (see allegations set forth in ABC "Report of License Violation," incident # 200407200010, approved September 17, 2004). The ABC, in the same "Report," identifies only one individual as ever buying drugs at RnR and that is the undercover Prince William County detective. Jessica Price's testimony, therefore, as to whether Jeffery Price was working with the police to set up drug deals at RnR, i.e., whether or not those "deals" were in effect one state actor working with another state actor in order to fabricate evidence, should be critical (although not hardly the only evidence, e.g., the Chris Price statement) with respect to any objective determination about what really transpired at RnR. Accordingly I submit the following with respect to Jessica's statement as affected by her sworn testimony at the ABC hearing.

Jessica never had the statement published in this post notarized. However, Jessica appeared before the ABC Hearing Officer, Clara A.Williams (CAW), on the second day of the hearing, i.e., August 26, 2005. Jessica was sworn in by the Hearing Officer. Her statement was marked Exhibit 14 by the Hearing Officer (see lower right hand corner of the exhibit posted above). She was then examined, under oath, as follows:

By Neil Ruttenberg:

Q.  Would you read through this and identify it and tell the judge whether or not that's your statement.

A. Yes, this is my statement.

By the Hearing Officer:

Are the contents true and correct?

The Witness:

Yes, ma'am. 

(Transcript, Day 2, p. 210, lines 1-8). Accordingly, Greg is correct when he states that Jessica's statement was a "sworn statement."

The ABC transcript (which is a public document available to all - as is the above referenced ABC "Report") is replete with sworn testimony by Jessica about her brother's deals with the Manassas Park police and the Narcotics Task Force. I don't intend to comment further on that testimony. It speaks for itself and I will leave that to Greg at his discretion. He's done pretty well so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reviewing this post, I noticed that Greg identifies Jessica Price&#8217;s statement as a &#8220;sworn statement.&#8221; I also noticed that the statement itself carries no notary or other oath but only Jessica&#8217;s signature. </p>
<p>Jessica Price is the sister of Jeffery Price. Jeffery Price was either the dealer or instigator of every marijuana deal alleged by the ABC to have been transacted at RnR (see allegations set forth in ABC &#8220;Report of License Violation,&#8221; incident # 200407200010, approved September 17, 2004). The ABC, in the same &#8220;Report,&#8221; identifies only one individual as ever buying drugs at RnR and that is the undercover Prince William County detective. Jessica Price&#8217;s testimony, therefore, as to whether Jeffery Price was working with the police to set up drug deals at RnR, i.e., whether or not those &#8220;deals&#8221; were in effect one state actor working with another state actor in order to fabricate evidence, should be critical (although not hardly the only evidence, e.g., the Chris Price statement) with respect to any objective determination about what really transpired at RnR. Accordingly I submit the following with respect to Jessica&#8217;s statement as affected by her sworn testimony at the ABC hearing.</p>
<p>Jessica never had the statement published in this post notarized. However, Jessica appeared before the ABC Hearing Officer, Clara A.Williams (CAW), on the second day of the hearing, i.e., August 26, 2005. Jessica was sworn in by the Hearing Officer. Her statement was marked Exhibit 14 by the Hearing Officer (see lower right hand corner of the exhibit posted above). She was then examined, under oath, as follows:</p>
<p>By Neil Ruttenberg:</p>
<p>Q.  Would you read through this and identify it and tell the judge whether or not that&#8217;s your statement.</p>
<p>A. Yes, this is my statement.</p>
<p>By the Hearing Officer:</p>
<p>Are the contents true and correct?</p>
<p>The Witness:</p>
<p>Yes, ma&#8217;am. </p>
<p>(Transcript, Day 2, p. 210, lines 1-8). Accordingly, Greg is correct when he states that Jessica&#8217;s statement was a &#8220;sworn statement.&#8221;</p>
<p>The ABC transcript (which is a public document available to all - as is the above referenced ABC &#8220;Report&#8221;) is replete with sworn testimony by Jessica about her brother&#8217;s deals with the Manassas Park police and the Narcotics Task Force. I don&#8217;t intend to comment further on that testimony. It speaks for itself and I will leave that to Greg at his discretion. He&#8217;s done pretty well so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mama</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6974</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6974</guid>
		<description>Let's add another one.


RACK AND ROLL - ABC TESTIMONY, DAY 1
TRANSCRIPTED EXCERPT
Page 199, Lines 20 through 25: Questions by Mr. Harrington, answers by Detective Lugo.

Q	And neither -- Tom Kifer,then, ....was         not a paid informant? That’s correct?
A	No, sir.
Q	Was that correct, yes?
A	Yeah - I mean he wasn’t a paid
	informant. Yeah.


END OF EXCERPT


Detective Lugo, your statement can do only one thing...mislead the hearing officer. Whatever your deal with him was, be it sentence reduction or money,  Kifer did it in exchange for personal gain.  You may think this is an exercise in semantics.  I call it a lie.  One of many that BVBL will soon expose.  You dishonor your profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s add another one.</p>
<p>RACK AND ROLL - ABC TESTIMONY, DAY 1<br />
TRANSCRIPTED EXCERPT<br />
Page 199, Lines 20 through 25: Questions by Mr. Harrington, answers by Detective Lugo.</p>
<p>Q	And neither &#8212; Tom Kifer,then, &#8230;.was         not a paid informant? That’s correct?<br />
A	No, sir.<br />
Q	Was that correct, yes?<br />
A	Yeah - I mean he wasn’t a paid<br />
	informant. Yeah.</p>
<p>END OF EXCERPT</p>
<p>Detective Lugo, your statement can do only one thing&#8230;mislead the hearing officer. Whatever your deal with him was, be it sentence reduction or money,  Kifer did it in exchange for personal gain.  You may think this is an exercise in semantics.  I call it a lie.  One of many that BVBL will soon expose.  You dishonor your profession.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOldTownObserver</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6932</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOldTownObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6932</guid>
		<description>Greg,
     Check your notes again. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere in your coverage or linked coverage that the ABC  administrative hearing was held in Alexandria City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
     Check your notes again. I&#8217;m pretty sure I read somewhere in your coverage or linked coverage that the ABC  administrative hearing was held in Alexandria City.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6929</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6929</guid>
		<description>The ABC hearing happened locally, and a perjury investigation was initiated by the Virginia State Police, but that investigation was closed by Paul Ebert without explanation.  I believe Paul Ebert should reopen the investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ABC hearing happened locally, and a perjury investigation was initiated by the Virginia State Police, but that investigation was closed by Paul Ebert without explanation.  I believe Paul Ebert should reopen the investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOldTownObserver</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6928</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOldTownObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6928</guid>
		<description>Greg,
     I have been following this story with some interest.
My only observation is: if the players you name have committed perjury at an ABC hearing located in The City of Alexandria, why do you think Ebert should be investigating alleged crime(s) that occurred in Alexandria? The venue for perjury is where it occurred. You and/or Mr. Ruttenberg need to contact the police and Commonwealth's Attorney in Alexandria and make your complaint where the  alleged crime(s) happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
     I have been following this story with some interest.<br />
My only observation is: if the players you name have committed perjury at an ABC hearing located in The City of Alexandria, why do you think Ebert should be investigating alleged crime(s) that occurred in Alexandria? The venue for perjury is where it occurred. You and/or Mr. Ruttenberg need to contact the police and Commonwealth&#8217;s Attorney in Alexandria and make your complaint where the  alleged crime(s) happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6880</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/02/13/when-perjury-subverts-governing/#comment-6880</guid>
		<description>I continue to be outraged by this mess, but wonder when the proper "authorities" will reach the same conclusion.  I wonder if this will heat up again with the latest push for the ridiculous "video horse racing" gambling, soon to come to an OTB venue near you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to be outraged by this mess, but wonder when the proper &#8220;authorities&#8221; will reach the same conclusion.  I wonder if this will heat up again with the latest push for the ridiculous &#8220;video horse racing&#8221; gambling, soon to come to an OTB venue near you!</p>
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