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	<title>Comments on: Kopko Vs. Nohe</title>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7791</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7791</guid>
		<description>Shame on you Vincent ;)  You need to read BVBL every single day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you Vincent <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  You need to read BVBL every single day!</p>
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		<title>By: Too Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7790</link>
		<dc:creator>Too Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7790</guid>
		<description>Sorry greg!

I hadn't read your site in a couple weeks...

...and had received an e-mail and few calls

I'll link to you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry greg!</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t read your site in a couple weeks&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and had received an e-mail and few calls</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll link to you</p>
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		<title>By: The Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7751</link>
		<dc:creator>The Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 07:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7751</guid>
		<description>I agree with Charles. Tom will provide the Committee with the leadership needed to get our R-candidates elected.  Besides, Tom can't raise enough money to keep up with Marty's campaign fund!  Marty needs to get smacked hard by Tom for supporting and voting for a bad budget. Corey said NO! Look who is fixing it--Corey. 

Marty has p'd off a lot of people, Tom has the guts to say no to developers and the guts to get government spending under control.   The proposed budget amendments simply delay major expenditures with the expectation that taxes will start to raise after the election year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Charles. Tom will provide the Committee with the leadership needed to get our R-candidates elected.  Besides, Tom can&#8217;t raise enough money to keep up with Marty&#8217;s campaign fund!  Marty needs to get smacked hard by Tom for supporting and voting for a bad budget. Corey said NO! Look who is fixing it&#8211;Corey. </p>
<p>Marty has p&#8217;d off a lot of people, Tom has the guts to say no to developers and the guts to get government spending under control.   The proposed budget amendments simply delay major expenditures with the expectation that taxes will start to raise after the election year.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7747</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7747</guid>
		<description>Me too.


Ottoman: A ruling member of the Turkish empire, or a short, squat piece of furniture, used to rest one's feet on, usually well-padded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too.</p>
<p>Ottoman: A ruling member of the Turkish empire, or a short, squat piece of furniture, used to rest one&#8217;s feet on, usually well-padded.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7742</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7742</guid>
		<description>BTB:

I provided the definition straight from the dictionary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTB:</p>
<p>I provided the definition straight from the dictionary.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Tom Kopko</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7736</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Tom Kopko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7736</guid>
		<description>F all you SOBs, you a-hole anonymous cowardly m-fers!!!!!!

Can we get the real TK to come in and make us all smile?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F all you SOBs, you a-hole anonymous cowardly m-fers!!!!!!</p>
<p>Can we get the real TK to come in and make us all smile?</p>
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		<title>By: compassionateconservative</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7734</link>
		<dc:creator>compassionateconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7734</guid>
		<description>Tom has helped energize the party, but he also has been a bit over the top. He has used the Chair to further his own personal agenda. I will strongly support Marty in his re-election bid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom has helped energize the party, but he also has been a bit over the top. He has used the Chair to further his own personal agenda. I will strongly support Marty in his re-election bid.</p>
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		<title>By: CONVA</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7733</link>
		<dc:creator>CONVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7733</guid>
		<description>The best scenario would be if Kopko steps down from the committee "chair" then Marty wipes the deck with him.  Daugherty then has a shot as Chairman and the committee can select a vice chairman and bring the committee out of the shadows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best scenario would be if Kopko steps down from the committee &#8220;chair&#8221; then Marty wipes the deck with him.  Daugherty then has a shot as Chairman and the committee can select a vice chairman and bring the committee out of the shadows.</p>
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		<title>By: The Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7730</link>
		<dc:creator>The Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7730</guid>
		<description>Tom Kopko should remain Chairman of PWCRC until winning the Primary. There is no reason to create a shake up in leadership during an election season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Kopko should remain Chairman of PWCRC until winning the Primary. There is no reason to create a shake up in leadership during an election season.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7723</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7723</guid>
		<description>Uh...Charles, it is you that are wrong. A Chair is the position. The Chairman is the person filling the position. Chairman does not imply gender.  That something is common, doesn't make it correct, just commonly incorrect. For someone who spends a lot of keystrokes trying to get his point across, I would think you would want to use the correct terms.

And I do think you are a great ottoman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230;Charles, it is you that are wrong. A Chair is the position. The Chairman is the person filling the position. Chairman does not imply gender.  That something is common, doesn&#8217;t make it correct, just commonly incorrect. For someone who spends a lot of keystrokes trying to get his point across, I would think you would want to use the correct terms.</p>
<p>And I do think you are a great ottoman.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7720</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7720</guid>
		<description>BDB:

You are correct that the PWC Republican Commitee bylaws still refer to the position as "Chairman".  However, the more common and accepted term now for the position is "Chair", as it does not imply a gender.

This definition of "Chair" has been in the dictionary for a long time now, and includes both the position of leadership, AND the person in that position.

For example:

the person occupying a seat of office, esp. the chairperson of a meeting: The speaker addressed the chair. 

You are correct I mean no disrespect, but I believe incorrect in making an issue of my usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BDB:</p>
<p>You are correct that the PWC Republican Commitee bylaws still refer to the position as &#8220;Chairman&#8221;.  However, the more common and accepted term now for the position is &#8220;Chair&#8221;, as it does not imply a gender.</p>
<p>This definition of &#8220;Chair&#8221; has been in the dictionary for a long time now, and includes both the position of leadership, AND the person in that position.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<p>the person occupying a seat of office, esp. the chairperson of a meeting: The speaker addressed the chair. </p>
<p>You are correct I mean no disrespect, but I believe incorrect in making an issue of my usage.</p>
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		<title>By: 10thdistrictrepublican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7709</link>
		<dc:creator>10thdistrictrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7709</guid>
		<description>Kopko could have more influence on the committee or politics in the area as a whole if he stayed on as Chairman of the committee rather than primary a sitting Republican supervisor. This mistake has been made many times before on many different committees in Virginia. Mr. Kopko could easily get a nomination for an elected seat in the future if he would just wait his turn. Now, its potentially now or never. Patience is a virtue many in politics struggle with. Kopko should just continue serving his term as committee chairman and wait for an opening somewere.  Overall, the committee as done very well under his leadership and organization and it will be a shame to start over under a new committee chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kopko could have more influence on the committee or politics in the area as a whole if he stayed on as Chairman of the committee rather than primary a sitting Republican supervisor. This mistake has been made many times before on many different committees in Virginia. Mr. Kopko could easily get a nomination for an elected seat in the future if he would just wait his turn. Now, its potentially now or never. Patience is a virtue many in politics struggle with. Kopko should just continue serving his term as committee chairman and wait for an opening somewere.  Overall, the committee as done very well under his leadership and organization and it will be a shame to start over under a new committee chair.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7708</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7708</guid>
		<description>Will Kopko step down when he announces? If he does announce, then he should immediately step down.

Charles keeps calling Tom Kopko "Chair". Although I doubt he intended any disrespect, a "Chair" is a piece of furniture. If you respect the man and the job that he is doing, then one shoud refer to him as "Chairman".

I think Charles is a very good Ottoman, and might make a good end-table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Kopko step down when he announces? If he does announce, then he should immediately step down.</p>
<p>Charles keeps calling Tom Kopko &#8220;Chair&#8221;. Although I doubt he intended any disrespect, a &#8220;Chair&#8221; is a piece of furniture. If you respect the man and the job that he is doing, then one shoud refer to him as &#8220;Chairman&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think Charles is a very good Ottoman, and might make a good end-table.</p>
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		<title>By: The Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7702</link>
		<dc:creator>The Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 09:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7702</guid>
		<description>Now is the time to improve the efficiency of Government, lower the budget but for good not just until next year, or the year after.  

Prince William is the only county in Northern VA that is building it's own roads, why?

We waste financial resources on senior programs that operate at only 30% capacity.  

Our IT department provides free web development, hosting, hardware and computer support to non-profits at their discretion.   

Our Economic Development Department has become nothing more than an  expensive real estate brokerage office with the highest paid Director in NoVA.

Our police department is understaffed, crime continues to grow, multiple families are living in one home with bunk beds in the living room and extension cords running from the house to a backyard shed were more family members stay.

Corey Stewart fought against the lofty budget that resulted in a 18 million dollar budget devicit.  And he was right!  Marty voted for it.


Our homes are dropping in value, the roadways over burdened because of  irresponsible residential developments.

And we still don't have a MORTONS STEAKHOUSE!

What we got was quantity and it's time to put our foot down and demand QUALITY!  Quality of Life.  

Open space is at a premium and our community is already underserved when measuring and comparing regional standards of the number of residents to public park space.

Residential property taxes make up too great of a percentage of the counties revenue which further increases the risk of a budget deficit.  

What has the county been doing the last 3-4 years to attract businesses outside of Innovation?

It's time for change, time to take a fiscally conservative approach to the county budget, promote efficient government, keep taxes low and seek ways to reduce our energy needs in our new McMansions. 

If given the choice for change in the Coles District, I will vote for Tom Kopko, a retired army Captain, not a career politician.  Tom cares about what is best for the residents of Prince William.  He is a strong, intelligent and passionate leader who will raise the bar not only for the Coles District but for the entire county.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now is the time to improve the efficiency of Government, lower the budget but for good not just until next year, or the year after.  </p>
<p>Prince William is the only county in Northern VA that is building it&#8217;s own roads, why?</p>
<p>We waste financial resources on senior programs that operate at only 30% capacity.  </p>
<p>Our IT department provides free web development, hosting, hardware and computer support to non-profits at their discretion.   </p>
<p>Our Economic Development Department has become nothing more than an  expensive real estate brokerage office with the highest paid Director in NoVA.</p>
<p>Our police department is understaffed, crime continues to grow, multiple families are living in one home with bunk beds in the living room and extension cords running from the house to a backyard shed were more family members stay.</p>
<p>Corey Stewart fought against the lofty budget that resulted in a 18 million dollar budget devicit.  And he was right!  Marty voted for it.</p>
<p>Our homes are dropping in value, the roadways over burdened because of  irresponsible residential developments.</p>
<p>And we still don&#8217;t have a MORTONS STEAKHOUSE!</p>
<p>What we got was quantity and it&#8217;s time to put our foot down and demand QUALITY!  Quality of Life.  </p>
<p>Open space is at a premium and our community is already underserved when measuring and comparing regional standards of the number of residents to public park space.</p>
<p>Residential property taxes make up too great of a percentage of the counties revenue which further increases the risk of a budget deficit.  </p>
<p>What has the county been doing the last 3-4 years to attract businesses outside of Innovation?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for change, time to take a fiscally conservative approach to the county budget, promote efficient government, keep taxes low and seek ways to reduce our energy needs in our new McMansions. </p>
<p>If given the choice for change in the Coles District, I will vote for Tom Kopko, a retired army Captain, not a career politician.  Tom cares about what is best for the residents of Prince William.  He is a strong, intelligent and passionate leader who will raise the bar not only for the Coles District but for the entire county.</p>
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		<title>By: PWC Chess Pieces &#171; Virginia Virtucon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7701</link>
		<dc:creator>PWC Chess Pieces &#171; Virginia Virtucon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 04:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7701</guid>
		<description>[...] by Riley, Not O'Reilly in Prince William County Politics, 2007 Elections. trackback  Greg L. is breaking the news that we&#8217;ve long expected to hear that PWC GOP Chairman Tom Kopko is planning to challenge [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] by Riley, Not O&#8217;Reilly in Prince William County Politics, 2007 Elections. trackback  Greg L. is breaking the news that we&#8217;ve long expected to hear that PWC GOP Chairman Tom Kopko is planning to challenge [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7700</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 04:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/03/04/kopko-vs-nohe/#comment-7700</guid>
		<description>I am still strongly urging Kopko to remain in his position because he is a good chair.  I don't have a problem with a healthy primary challenge, and Tom is a good guy, but I wish he'd stay chair.

I never consider accurate quotes of people, or accurate reports of their voting record, to be "negative campaigning".  Democrats regularly decry a campaign as negative if you actually quote what they say or report how they voted, but that doesn't make it negative.

I know that Greg here doesn't mind negative campaigning, having run multiple negative articles (of the sort Greg says would be negative) on a candidate who hasn't even announced yet, plus some truly negative articles like one attacking that candidate for his weight and another suggesting he personally called for Jihad, among others.  

But I hope we can avoid name-calling.  If Nohe's voting record aligns with Hilda Bargs voting record, it would be hard to support a republican against her "lousy record" but defend Nohe for the same record.

I'm not saying their records are the same, I'm just playing off the post Greg made above.  My point is that we have to be true to our principles, and support the candidate that best represents our policies and philosophies, at least in primaries.  In the general election, vote for the best candidate -- which I can't imagine being a democrat against EITHER Kopko or Nohe.

Whatever happens, I hope whatever primaries happen either for this or the delegate seats can rise above the personal attacks and namecalling and dredging up of old discredited charges, and focus on the future of our county and our commonwealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still strongly urging Kopko to remain in his position because he is a good chair.  I don&#8217;t have a problem with a healthy primary challenge, and Tom is a good guy, but I wish he&#8217;d stay chair.</p>
<p>I never consider accurate quotes of people, or accurate reports of their voting record, to be &#8220;negative campaigning&#8221;.  Democrats regularly decry a campaign as negative if you actually quote what they say or report how they voted, but that doesn&#8217;t make it negative.</p>
<p>I know that Greg here doesn&#8217;t mind negative campaigning, having run multiple negative articles (of the sort Greg says would be negative) on a candidate who hasn&#8217;t even announced yet, plus some truly negative articles like one attacking that candidate for his weight and another suggesting he personally called for Jihad, among others.  </p>
<p>But I hope we can avoid name-calling.  If Nohe&#8217;s voting record aligns with Hilda Bargs voting record, it would be hard to support a republican against her &#8220;lousy record&#8221; but defend Nohe for the same record.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying their records are the same, I&#8217;m just playing off the post Greg made above.  My point is that we have to be true to our principles, and support the candidate that best represents our policies and philosophies, at least in primaries.  In the general election, vote for the best candidate &#8212; which I can&#8217;t imagine being a democrat against EITHER Kopko or Nohe.</p>
<p>Whatever happens, I hope whatever primaries happen either for this or the delegate seats can rise above the personal attacks and namecalling and dredging up of old discredited charges, and focus on the future of our county and our commonwealth.</p>
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