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	<title>Comments on: Riley Stays</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/</link>
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		<title>By: Mad Hatter</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9581</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9581</guid>
		<description>Anon just PWNed you, Greg.

You waltzed joyfully into his trap of words.

Now stop trying to use it for political advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon just PWNed you, Greg.</p>
<p>You waltzed joyfully into his trap of words.</p>
<p>Now stop trying to use it for political advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9578</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9578</guid>
		<description>OK, what conservative foundation seems to underpin what Cho said motivated him to do what he did?  Was it his statements in support of low taxes?  Opposition to abortion?  Personal responsibility?  What exactly did he say that leads you to believe the motivation for what he did came from any sort of conservative policy position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, what conservative foundation seems to underpin what Cho said motivated him to do what he did?  Was it his statements in support of low taxes?  Opposition to abortion?  Personal responsibility?  What exactly did he say that leads you to believe the motivation for what he did came from any sort of conservative policy position?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9573</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9573</guid>
		<description>Conservatism is clearly at fault here.  Easy access to guns, emphasis on violence as a means of addressing problems, an under-funded mental health system that lets people like Cho fall through the cracks, etc., etc. -- these are all core tenets of Republican/conservative ideology and they are directly to blame for this tragedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatism is clearly at fault here.  Easy access to guns, emphasis on violence as a means of addressing problems, an under-funded mental health system that lets people like Cho fall through the cracks, etc., etc. &#8212; these are all core tenets of Republican/conservative ideology and they are directly to blame for this tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9563</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9563</guid>
		<description>I had hoped to be more clear that I am not trying to claim that Democrats in general are at fault here.  They are not.  I think there's a case to be made here that liberalism, which does seem to incorporate a substantial amount of marxist philosophy, may potentially have a lot to do with what seeded the fertile soil of this evil man's mind with the philosophical nugget that later grew into a monstrous hatred.  I also don't believe that there's any intent whatsoever on the part of liberals to cause this.  No one wants outrages like this to occur.

This may be an example of the unintended consequences of liberalism, and it's not at all wrong to explore this possibility, just as it was not wrong to explore what drove Timothy McVeigh to commit his atrocity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had hoped to be more clear that I am not trying to claim that Democrats in general are at fault here.  They are not.  I think there&#8217;s a case to be made here that liberalism, which does seem to incorporate a substantial amount of marxist philosophy, may potentially have a lot to do with what seeded the fertile soil of this evil man&#8217;s mind with the philosophical nugget that later grew into a monstrous hatred.  I also don&#8217;t believe that there&#8217;s any intent whatsoever on the part of liberals to cause this.  No one wants outrages like this to occur.</p>
<p>This may be an example of the unintended consequences of liberalism, and it&#8217;s not at all wrong to explore this possibility, just as it was not wrong to explore what drove Timothy McVeigh to commit his atrocity.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9560</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9560</guid>
		<description>The point people are missing (and that Ben conveniently omitted for his own reasons) is Riley's post was entitled "A Creature of the Left?" (asking a question, trying to determine why Cho did what he did as so many other people are searching for answers to the question of why) as opposed to "A Creature of the Left" (making a statement of fact as Ben tried to portray Riley as doing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point people are missing (and that Ben conveniently omitted for his own reasons) is Riley&#8217;s post was entitled &#8220;A Creature of the Left?&#8221; (asking a question, trying to determine why Cho did what he did as so many other people are searching for answers to the question of why) as opposed to &#8220;A Creature of the Left&#8221; (making a statement of fact as Ben tried to portray Riley as doing.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Hatter</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9559</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9559</guid>
		<description>Matt-

Obviously, and understandably, many people have been deeply hurt by this tragedy.

Some cry on others shoulders. Some go into seclusion. Some flame Cho on blogs.

Natural human responses... anger, reticence, and tears.

Those whose response is to flame Cho will of course accuse him of believing in opposite ideology as them. Who would attack someone by saying "he must have agreed with me, that's why he did this evil act!"

So please... let it slide. At least for a few days. If people are still trying to blame this horrific situation on liberals next Friday, then you should be worried. But now... now they are still hurting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt-</p>
<p>Obviously, and understandably, many people have been deeply hurt by this tragedy.</p>
<p>Some cry on others shoulders. Some go into seclusion. Some flame Cho on blogs.</p>
<p>Natural human responses&#8230; anger, reticence, and tears.</p>
<p>Those whose response is to flame Cho will of course accuse him of believing in opposite ideology as them. Who would attack someone by saying &#8220;he must have agreed with me, that&#8217;s why he did this evil act!&#8221;</p>
<p>So please&#8230; let it slide. At least for a few days. If people are still trying to blame this horrific situation on liberals next Friday, then you should be worried. But now&#8230; now they are still hurting.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9556</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9556</guid>
		<description>I am shocked by this whole thread. How can anyone say Cho did this horrible act because he followed Marxist ideology? Does anyone here have access to the full texts of his writings or the contents of his library? All we know is that he hated rich kids. Pidgeonholing this act, or the McVeigh act, into a liberal vs. conservative argument is insulting to the victims and their families. 

Anonymous said on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:06 am is an idiot and the wide brushstrokes being painted by Greg and others is nothing but cariciture of those on both ends and in the middle of the political spectrum. 

I hope that NovaScout is correct is his analysis of Riley's intentions, because if he isn't, Riley and the people who want to break this down into something political have no heart or compassion for what has happened. 

If you take the time to read about each of the victims or talk to someone who was there you would know that politics has no place in this discussion. It has taken me several hours to get thru the bios of the victims because their loss is so tragic and I can only get thru a couple at a time.

There are issues, like immigration, that I had hoped to work on with Greg and others on the Republican side but that is made much more difficult b/c of this blind hatred of people who don't see things in the same way as you. You can't paint those who disagree with you as raging Marxist liberals. Not all Democrats are Marxists and not all Republicans are Fascists; we all just need to get over our tendency to profile those with whom we disagree or we will never be able to work together to solve problems that affect us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked by this whole thread. How can anyone say Cho did this horrible act because he followed Marxist ideology? Does anyone here have access to the full texts of his writings or the contents of his library? All we know is that he hated rich kids. Pidgeonholing this act, or the McVeigh act, into a liberal vs. conservative argument is insulting to the victims and their families. </p>
<p>Anonymous said on 19 Apr 2007 at 12:06 am is an idiot and the wide brushstrokes being painted by Greg and others is nothing but cariciture of those on both ends and in the middle of the political spectrum. </p>
<p>I hope that NovaScout is correct is his analysis of Riley&#8217;s intentions, because if he isn&#8217;t, Riley and the people who want to break this down into something political have no heart or compassion for what has happened. </p>
<p>If you take the time to read about each of the victims or talk to someone who was there you would know that politics has no place in this discussion. It has taken me several hours to get thru the bios of the victims because their loss is so tragic and I can only get thru a couple at a time.</p>
<p>There are issues, like immigration, that I had hoped to work on with Greg and others on the Republican side but that is made much more difficult b/c of this blind hatred of people who don&#8217;t see things in the same way as you. You can&#8217;t paint those who disagree with you as raging Marxist liberals. Not all Democrats are Marxists and not all Republicans are Fascists; we all just need to get over our tendency to profile those with whom we disagree or we will never be able to work together to solve problems that affect us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9554</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9554</guid>
		<description>Liberals seem to favor surrender and servitude while conservatives favor a strong defense and deterrence, from my perspective.  In this instance, liberal adherence to the tenets of Marxism seems to have fueled the rage within a very troubled young man, and made him think that he needed to follow in the footsteps of folks like Che Guevera and strike a blow for the proletariat.

When you spew marxist class warfare rhetoric, sometimes the results are somewhat different that the noble goals liberals are trying to accomplish.  Fundamentally, this is the problem with liberalism -- while it attempts to accomplish some great things, the means and methods of liberalism create outcomes far more serious than the problems they were trying to address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals seem to favor surrender and servitude while conservatives favor a strong defense and deterrence, from my perspective.  In this instance, liberal adherence to the tenets of Marxism seems to have fueled the rage within a very troubled young man, and made him think that he needed to follow in the footsteps of folks like Che Guevera and strike a blow for the proletariat.</p>
<p>When you spew marxist class warfare rhetoric, sometimes the results are somewhat different that the noble goals liberals are trying to accomplish.  Fundamentally, this is the problem with liberalism &#8212; while it attempts to accomplish some great things, the means and methods of liberalism create outcomes far more serious than the problems they were trying to address.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ward View &#187; I think Ben needs a nap.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9549</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ward View &#187; I think Ben needs a nap.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9549</guid>
		<description>[...] talking are Greg at Black Velvet Bruce Li who says:  Riley Stays - I’m keeping Riley on my blogroll, and I may even decide to borrow his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] talking are Greg at Black Velvet Bruce Li who says:  Riley Stays - I’m keeping Riley on my blogroll, and I may even decide to borrow his [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9547</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9547</guid>
		<description>As a general rule, liberals tend to favor peace and diplomacy while conservatives tend to favor militarism and force.  The bloodletting we're seeing in Iraq right now is a perfect example.  9-11 is another example.  Bush and Bin Laden are united in their belief that violence is a good way to solve problems and to force their conservative ideologies down the rest of the world's throats.  They both have so much blood on their hands that they wouldn't even know how to begin finding their way to salvation.  They both need to get on their knees and beg the world for forgiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a general rule, liberals tend to favor peace and diplomacy while conservatives tend to favor militarism and force.  The bloodletting we&#8217;re seeing in Iraq right now is a perfect example.  9-11 is another example.  Bush and Bin Laden are united in their belief that violence is a good way to solve problems and to force their conservative ideologies down the rest of the world&#8217;s throats.  They both have so much blood on their hands that they wouldn&#8217;t even know how to begin finding their way to salvation.  They both need to get on their knees and beg the world for forgiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9546</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9546</guid>
		<description>Yeah, like those Earth First folks, Pol Pot, Che Guevara, the EZLN, Shining Path, and those people in Philadelphia who rigged their house with gasoline bombs and blew them when the cops showed up.  They're all followers of Richard Nixon.

Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, like those Earth First folks, Pol Pot, Che Guevara, the EZLN, Shining Path, and those people in Philadelphia who rigged their house with gasoline bombs and blew them when the cops showed up.  They&#8217;re all followers of Richard Nixon.</p>
<p>Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9545</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9545</guid>
		<description>the culture of violence is what killed those 32 people.  the culture of violence is most actively supported/championed/profited from by those on the right side of the political spectrum.  ergo, riley was completely wrong and so are his apologists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the culture of violence is what killed those 32 people.  the culture of violence is most actively supported/championed/profited from by those on the right side of the political spectrum.  ergo, riley was completely wrong and so are his apologists.</p>
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		<title>By: NoVA Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9539</link>
		<dc:creator>NoVA Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9539</guid>
		<description>People are missing Riley's point, I think.  It's impossible that what he said was not intended as parody or lampoon.  I think he was just poking fun at the type of person who can reduce any human tragedy to being attributable to the politics of people with whom he disagrees.  It may not have been the best time for such a light-hearted poke, but it's not possible that Jim really thinks Cho was overcome by liberal political forces that made him murder.  Give Riley a little credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are missing Riley&#8217;s point, I think.  It&#8217;s impossible that what he said was not intended as parody or lampoon.  I think he was just poking fun at the type of person who can reduce any human tragedy to being attributable to the politics of people with whom he disagrees.  It may not have been the best time for such a light-hearted poke, but it&#8217;s not possible that Jim really thinks Cho was overcome by liberal political forces that made him murder.  Give Riley a little credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Hatter</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9526</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9526</guid>
		<description>BVBL - I think you make an excellent parallel between McVeigh and Cho.

Both were influenced by radical - I repeat radical - belief systems. They may have been on opposite ends of the spectrum, but the result was the same... Mental depravity. Death.

Riley might have been a bit hasty with his post (c'mon... at least wait a week) but the principle there stands. Hatred of people leads to death - whether it be hatred of black or white, rich or poor, man or woman.

The lesson should be taken to heart by both liberal and conservative extremists.

 

BDB - He should have failed out of Tech, judging by the quality of his writing. How did he make it to his senior year? The media keeps reporting how his professors were afraid of "setting him off," so they didn't report his behavior, press him for explanation, or flunk him... apparently they failed. Miserably. You are right that the warning signs were there. It is heart breaking that no one picked up on it earlier. But who is to say that we would have done any different, in their shoes? Now 33 families have a gaping wound where a relative used to stand.

However, the answer is not to go out and arm every man, woman, and child in the Blacksburg area.

Nor is it to stop selling guns to anyone.

 Nor is it to point your fingers at the VT faculty, the VT police, and the VT student body.

This was an example of pure evil enacted upon humanity. 

The only person to blame is dead. Cho, an obviously disturbed young man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BVBL - I think you make an excellent parallel between McVeigh and Cho.</p>
<p>Both were influenced by radical - I repeat radical - belief systems. They may have been on opposite ends of the spectrum, but the result was the same&#8230; Mental depravity. Death.</p>
<p>Riley might have been a bit hasty with his post (c&#8217;mon&#8230; at least wait a week) but the principle there stands. Hatred of people leads to death - whether it be hatred of black or white, rich or poor, man or woman.</p>
<p>The lesson should be taken to heart by both liberal and conservative extremists.</p>
<p>BDB - He should have failed out of Tech, judging by the quality of his writing. How did he make it to his senior year? The media keeps reporting how his professors were afraid of &#8220;setting him off,&#8221; so they didn&#8217;t report his behavior, press him for explanation, or flunk him&#8230; apparently they failed. Miserably. You are right that the warning signs were there. It is heart breaking that no one picked up on it earlier. But who is to say that we would have done any different, in their shoes? Now 33 families have a gaping wound where a relative used to stand.</p>
<p>However, the answer is not to go out and arm every man, woman, and child in the Blacksburg area.</p>
<p>Nor is it to stop selling guns to anyone.</p>
<p> Nor is it to point your fingers at the VT faculty, the VT police, and the VT student body.</p>
<p>This was an example of pure evil enacted upon humanity. </p>
<p>The only person to blame is dead. Cho, an obviously disturbed young man.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9525</link>
		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9525</guid>
		<description>"We are dealing with mental illness and criminally violent behavior here."

No Jonathan, we are dealing with evil here.

And I'm tired of hearing "tragedy" from the drive-by media. It was not a tragedy -- it was evil.

The leftists have a hard time dealing with the reality of evil; the atheists even more so.

Riley is right, correct, accurative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are dealing with mental illness and criminally violent behavior here.&#8221;</p>
<p>No Jonathan, we are dealing with evil here.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m tired of hearing &#8220;tragedy&#8221; from the drive-by media. It was not a tragedy &#8212; it was evil.</p>
<p>The leftists have a hard time dealing with the reality of evil; the atheists even more so.</p>
<p>Riley is right, correct, accurative.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9523</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9523</guid>
		<description>This is not a "carry or not carry" issue, in my opinion.  It is, however, an issue of law and order on our college campuses.  From all reports, this young man had previously been guilty of arson and stalking, both of which would have placed him into the criminal justice system...most certainly the arson.  Had his case been presented to local law enforcement for adjudication, he would have been going through the system right now, probably winding up in a secure mental health facility.  Instead, it was handled internally and he was sent to counciling, most likely voluntary counciling...and he probably only showed up once.  If colleges believe that parents want their children to live under a different set of rules, perhaps they should ask those parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a &#8220;carry or not carry&#8221; issue, in my opinion.  It is, however, an issue of law and order on our college campuses.  From all reports, this young man had previously been guilty of arson and stalking, both of which would have placed him into the criminal justice system&#8230;most certainly the arson.  Had his case been presented to local law enforcement for adjudication, he would have been going through the system right now, probably winding up in a secure mental health facility.  Instead, it was handled internally and he was sent to counciling, most likely voluntary counciling&#8230;and he probably only showed up once.  If colleges believe that parents want their children to live under a different set of rules, perhaps they should ask those parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9520</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9520</guid>
		<description>I think NLS has missed Riley's point. Liberal ideals have permeated the college campus. We are no finding out that this was a very troubled young man, The warning signs were there, in his writings, and in his bizzare behavior. What was the response of the liberal educators? Refer him to counseling. Huh?

Also, the VT campus bans any and all handguns in dorms, and conceealed carry on campus. They can't bring criminal charges against anyone who is in possession, but the can threaten expulsion for violations of school policy. What did this do? It disarmed the law-abiding. If one student or professor would have been permitted to carry, Cho could have been stopped. Instead, you had the VT police picking their noses at the first crime scene, and the administration sending out emails, two hours after the first shooting. They had two students dead, and no weapon, which would indicate that this wasn't a murder suicide. Pretty clear there was still a shooter on the loose. Did they lock the campus down? Make announcements over the PA system? No.

When are liberals going to wake up and realize that candle-light vigils and the like are nothing more than the sheep standing together in a herd. Stricter gun laws would not have prevented this. Identifying this individual as a potential threat could have. Allowing law-abiding students who have been vetted by the state as part of the CHP application process to carry on campus may have. A competent response by the VTPD and the VT Admin most defintely would have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think NLS has missed Riley&#8217;s point. Liberal ideals have permeated the college campus. We are no finding out that this was a very troubled young man, The warning signs were there, in his writings, and in his bizzare behavior. What was the response of the liberal educators? Refer him to counseling. Huh?</p>
<p>Also, the VT campus bans any and all handguns in dorms, and conceealed carry on campus. They can&#8217;t bring criminal charges against anyone who is in possession, but the can threaten expulsion for violations of school policy. What did this do? It disarmed the law-abiding. If one student or professor would have been permitted to carry, Cho could have been stopped. Instead, you had the VT police picking their noses at the first crime scene, and the administration sending out emails, two hours after the first shooting. They had two students dead, and no weapon, which would indicate that this wasn&#8217;t a murder suicide. Pretty clear there was still a shooter on the loose. Did they lock the campus down? Make announcements over the PA system? No.</p>
<p>When are liberals going to wake up and realize that candle-light vigils and the like are nothing more than the sheep standing together in a herd. Stricter gun laws would not have prevented this. Identifying this individual as a potential threat could have. Allowing law-abiding students who have been vetted by the state as part of the CHP application process to carry on campus may have. A competent response by the VTPD and the VT Admin most defintely would have.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Jim Webb's Gun</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9519</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Jim Webb's Gun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9519</guid>
		<description>Boo hoo hoo -- the left can't take it when the shoe is on the other foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boo hoo hoo &#8212; the left can&#8217;t take it when the shoe is on the other foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9517</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9517</guid>
		<description>I thought Virtucon's statement was stupid but not offensive. What if it turns out that the shooter is a Young Republican? Does it even matter? We are dealing with mental illness and criminally violent behavior here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Virtucon&#8217;s statement was stupid but not offensive. What if it turns out that the shooter is a Young Republican? Does it even matter? We are dealing with mental illness and criminally violent behavior here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/18/riley-stays/#comment-9516</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIBERALISM KILLS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIBERALISM KILLS</p>
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