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	<title>Comments on: Faisal Gill&#8217;s Two Campaigns</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/</link>
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		<title>By: asmith</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9671</link>
		<dc:creator>asmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you called out Cuccinelli, Lingamfelter, and Bolling on why they support Gill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you called out Cuccinelli, Lingamfelter, and Bolling on why they support Gill?</p>
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		<title>By: The Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9650</link>
		<dc:creator>The Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9650</guid>
		<description>"Apparently honest men can be bought very cheaply. Unless, of course, they are not that honest to begin with."   

Definitely! Honest politicians are unable to rely on developer money for campaign funding because of their controlled growth platform.  And who is OFFERING them money-Gill.  These politicians or candidates have worked along side of Gill on campaigns for years and along the way believe they developed a trusted friendship. They also believe that if Gill had some deep dark secret he wouldn't risk the exposure by running for public office. 

Gill's driving and court clearly demonstrates his blatant disrespect for the law of perhaps more specifically the laws in the United States of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apparently honest men can be bought very cheaply. Unless, of course, they are not that honest to begin with.&#8221;   </p>
<p>Definitely! Honest politicians are unable to rely on developer money for campaign funding because of their controlled growth platform.  And who is OFFERING them money-Gill.  These politicians or candidates have worked along side of Gill on campaigns for years and along the way believe they developed a trusted friendship. They also believe that if Gill had some deep dark secret he wouldn&#8217;t risk the exposure by running for public office. </p>
<p>Gill&#8217;s driving and court clearly demonstrates his blatant disrespect for the law of perhaps more specifically the laws in the United States of America.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9634</guid>
		<description>The Rev. Al Sharpton doesn't have a thing on the race-baiters in the Gill camp. Takes Charles' comment posted above, for instance: 

"""Clever is not the word I’ll use to describe your attempt to weave an anti-muslim component into your writings. You will of course deny the charge, and others will jump to your defense..."""


Here we go again. The argument is, if you object to Gill's record of working as a chief lobbyist for or on behalf of a convicted terrorist (Abdurahman Alamoudi, founder and leader of the American Muslim Council and serving a 23-year sentence) then you are prejudiced. 

Unprejudiced people, so this reasoning goes, do not object to candidates who worked as chief lobbyists for the American Muslim Council, a group so extreme that even Muslims rejected it. It is now defunct.  

Gill was the chief lobbyist for this group in the aftermath of 9-11. While the nation was gathering information about who did it, the organization that Gill was the chief lobbyist for was telling Muslims not to talk to the FBI. 

Notice that Charles provides no examples of Greg's or others alleged "anti-muslim component." That is left to the reader's imagination. Let's hear it Charles. Show us specifically what Greg L says that is anti-Muslim, as opposed to anti-Gill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rev. Al Sharpton doesn&#8217;t have a thing on the race-baiters in the Gill camp. Takes Charles&#8217; comment posted above, for instance: </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Clever is not the word I’ll use to describe your attempt to weave an anti-muslim component into your writings. You will of course deny the charge, and others will jump to your defense&#8230;&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Here we go again. The argument is, if you object to Gill&#8217;s record of working as a chief lobbyist for or on behalf of a convicted terrorist (Abdurahman Alamoudi, founder and leader of the American Muslim Council and serving a 23-year sentence) then you are prejudiced. </p>
<p>Unprejudiced people, so this reasoning goes, do not object to candidates who worked as chief lobbyists for the American Muslim Council, a group so extreme that even Muslims rejected it. It is now defunct.  </p>
<p>Gill was the chief lobbyist for this group in the aftermath of 9-11. While the nation was gathering information about who did it, the organization that Gill was the chief lobbyist for was telling Muslims not to talk to the FBI. </p>
<p>Notice that Charles provides no examples of Greg&#8217;s or others alleged &#8220;anti-muslim component.&#8221; That is left to the reader&#8217;s imagination. Let&#8217;s hear it Charles. Show us specifically what Greg L says that is anti-Muslim, as opposed to anti-Gill.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9624</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9624</guid>
		<description>That 70% figure was from the current campaign finance reporting period.  According to the guidelines, any donations collected on the 31st were required to be reported, which might indicate that an amended report should be coming.

I think it's a valid question to ask why a collection of Dawoodi Bohras in Texas think that Faisal Gill's campaign is so important that their clerics would direct contributions to it.  If they're hearing a different story from this campaign than the one we're getting, that's a pretty significant issue.  I doubt their motivation here had much to do with Virginia's tax policies, transportation issues, or Gill's other publicly stated campaign issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That 70% figure was from the current campaign finance reporting period.  According to the guidelines, any donations collected on the 31st were required to be reported, which might indicate that an amended report should be coming.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a valid question to ask why a collection of Dawoodi Bohras in Texas think that Faisal Gill&#8217;s campaign is so important that their clerics would direct contributions to it.  If they&#8217;re hearing a different story from this campaign than the one we&#8217;re getting, that&#8217;s a pretty significant issue.  I doubt their motivation here had much to do with Virginia&#8217;s tax policies, transportation issues, or Gill&#8217;s other publicly stated campaign issues.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9622</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9622</guid>
		<description>I thought Julie did well to raise 21,000, until I noticed that $8500 of that was a transfer from her school board campaign.  Still a good amount of money.  

Both our candidates have shown that there is good money in this race on our side.  

I wasn't sure at first what you meant by the "70%" number, given that a vast amount of his 50,000+ total was from northern virginia, but then I figured out how to see the "most recent".  He didn't seem to do any real fundraising in that time period, so while 70% is a large percentage, it's a small amount of money, a total of $3400, of which the texas part was $2100, or 61%.  

I don't know what the difference is in my numbers  and your 70% numbers, I'll let you figure that out.

His fundraiser on March 31st is not included in these numbers, I imagine that would put the in-state contributions for the cycle a lot higher.  

Your speculation about the groups "conservative" leanings are probably all wet.  It's likely this group just sends small amounts of money to Muslim candidates for office, like other religious groups in minorities sometimes seek out and send money to candidates of their religion without regard to political leanings.  I doubt a person who supported Clinton and Gore would find anything in Gill's positions on issues all that appealing, but if those dollars aren't going to a liberal somewhere it's a good thing.

Clever is not the word I'll use to describe your attempt to weave an anti-muslim component into your writings.  You will of course deny the charge, and others will jump to your defense while JM reposts his stuff again.  

I just want you to know that we know what you are doing, no matter how clever you think you are.  Hopefully, people WILL be able to separate your posts on this blog from your leadership in Help Save Manassas.  That group has enough difficulty fighting false charges that anti-illegal-immigrant groups are just racist and bigoted, and stuff like this will empower the liberal media to smear the group again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Julie did well to raise 21,000, until I noticed that $8500 of that was a transfer from her school board campaign.  Still a good amount of money.  </p>
<p>Both our candidates have shown that there is good money in this race on our side.  </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure at first what you meant by the &#8220;70%&#8221; number, given that a vast amount of his 50,000+ total was from northern virginia, but then I figured out how to see the &#8220;most recent&#8221;.  He didn&#8217;t seem to do any real fundraising in that time period, so while 70% is a large percentage, it&#8217;s a small amount of money, a total of $3400, of which the texas part was $2100, or 61%.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the difference is in my numbers  and your 70% numbers, I&#8217;ll let you figure that out.</p>
<p>His fundraiser on March 31st is not included in these numbers, I imagine that would put the in-state contributions for the cycle a lot higher.  </p>
<p>Your speculation about the groups &#8220;conservative&#8221; leanings are probably all wet.  It&#8217;s likely this group just sends small amounts of money to Muslim candidates for office, like other religious groups in minorities sometimes seek out and send money to candidates of their religion without regard to political leanings.  I doubt a person who supported Clinton and Gore would find anything in Gill&#8217;s positions on issues all that appealing, but if those dollars aren&#8217;t going to a liberal somewhere it&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>Clever is not the word I&#8217;ll use to describe your attempt to weave an anti-muslim component into your writings.  You will of course deny the charge, and others will jump to your defense while JM reposts his stuff again.  </p>
<p>I just want you to know that we know what you are doing, no matter how clever you think you are.  Hopefully, people WILL be able to separate your posts on this blog from your leadership in Help Save Manassas.  That group has enough difficulty fighting false charges that anti-illegal-immigrant groups are just racist and bigoted, and stuff like this will empower the liberal media to smear the group again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9609</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/04/20/faisal-gills-two-campaigns/#comment-9609</guid>
		<description>Azim Ghafoor in addition donated $4800 in Redskin box seat tickets to Brian Moran last year: http://vpap.org/donors/results_level3.cfm?fmkey=INP000298665&#38;tokey=COM00090&#38;Year=2006


Clearly this group is seeking to infiltrate the right and the left. 

Bad physical condition and diet 
Bad history of working for a convicted terrorist
Bad current connections, including Ghafoor
Bad driving

This Faisal Gill has really got it all as a candidate, hasn't he? No wonder Lingamfelter, Cuccinelli, Stewart and Bolling have endorsed him. Lingamfelter actually roared to the crowd at the Faisal Gill campaign kickoff, what are you going to do to get Faisal elected!

These people disgust me. Faisal is just being what he is, a terrorist sympathizer and, at the terrorist-led American Muslim Council, a terrorist flunky.

Cuccinelli et al are selling out what they claim to believe in for $15K in Safa Group contributions (Cuccinelli) and $14K in Gill contributions, (Bolling.)

Apparently honest men can be bought very cheaply. Unless, of course, they are not that honest to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Azim Ghafoor in addition donated $4800 in Redskin box seat tickets to Brian Moran last year: <a href="http://vpap.org/donors/results_level3.cfm?fmkey=INP000298665&amp;tokey=COM00090&amp;Year=2006" rel="nofollow">http://vpap.org/donors/results_level3.cfm?fmkey=INP000298665&amp;tokey=COM00090&amp;Year=2006</a></p>
<p>Clearly this group is seeking to infiltrate the right and the left. </p>
<p>Bad physical condition and diet<br />
Bad history of working for a convicted terrorist<br />
Bad current connections, including Ghafoor<br />
Bad driving</p>
<p>This Faisal Gill has really got it all as a candidate, hasn&#8217;t he? No wonder Lingamfelter, Cuccinelli, Stewart and Bolling have endorsed him. Lingamfelter actually roared to the crowd at the Faisal Gill campaign kickoff, what are you going to do to get Faisal elected!</p>
<p>These people disgust me. Faisal is just being what he is, a terrorist sympathizer and, at the terrorist-led American Muslim Council, a terrorist flunky.</p>
<p>Cuccinelli et al are selling out what they claim to believe in for $15K in Safa Group contributions (Cuccinelli) and $14K in Gill contributions, (Bolling.)</p>
<p>Apparently honest men can be bought very cheaply. Unless, of course, they are not that honest to begin with.</p>
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