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	<title>Comments on: The Amnesty Sell Out</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: a nonny mouse</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11645</link>
		<dc:creator>a nonny mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11645</guid>
		<description>Rest assured that the whores on Capitol Hill don't care what it costs the taxpayer. They want to secure the Latino vote for George P. Bush in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rest assured that the whores on Capitol Hill don&#8217;t care what it costs the taxpayer. They want to secure the Latino vote for George P. Bush in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: David Core</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11625</link>
		<dc:creator>David Core</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11625</guid>
		<description>Check the Heritage  Foundation testimony on May 21.

Low-skill immigrants cost the U.S. taxpayer about $20,000 per year per immigrant  household!  The proportional burden is greater for states and localities.

About 40% of those low-skilled immigrants are illegal.

50% of illegal immigrant households are headed by adults who do NOT have a high school degree.  Thus they will never generate the wages and income level to reduce their tax burden!  In 1960, recent immigrants were no more likely than were non-immigrants to lack a high school degree. By contrast, in 1998, recent immigrants were almost four times more likely to lack a high school degree than were non-immigrants.

If all the current adult illegal immigrants in the U.S. were granted amnesty the net retirement costs to government (benefits minus taxes) could be over $2.5 trillion.

Conclusion:  Current immigration practices, both legal and illegal, operate like a system of trans-national welfare outreach bringing millions of fiscally dependent individuals into the U.S. This policy needs to be changed. U.S. immigration policy should encourage high-skill immigration and strictly limit low-skill immigration. 


http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/tst052107a.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check the Heritage  Foundation testimony on May 21.</p>
<p>Low-skill immigrants cost the U.S. taxpayer about $20,000 per year per immigrant  household!  The proportional burden is greater for states and localities.</p>
<p>About 40% of those low-skilled immigrants are illegal.</p>
<p>50% of illegal immigrant households are headed by adults who do NOT have a high school degree.  Thus they will never generate the wages and income level to reduce their tax burden!  In 1960, recent immigrants were no more likely than were non-immigrants to lack a high school degree. By contrast, in 1998, recent immigrants were almost four times more likely to lack a high school degree than were non-immigrants.</p>
<p>If all the current adult illegal immigrants in the U.S. were granted amnesty the net retirement costs to government (benefits minus taxes) could be over $2.5 trillion.</p>
<p>Conclusion:  Current immigration practices, both legal and illegal, operate like a system of trans-national welfare outreach bringing millions of fiscally dependent individuals into the U.S. This policy needs to be changed. U.S. immigration policy should encourage high-skill immigration and strictly limit low-skill immigration. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/tst052107a.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/tst052107a.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11598</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 13:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11598</guid>
		<description>Warner and Webb both voted for cloture on the amnesty bill. As I understand it, this limits discussion to 30 hours.

When both parties act so much alike, I'm not really going to feel too bad about voting for a 3rd party and possibly ending up with a repeat of 1992 with Clinton and Perot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warner and Webb both voted for cloture on the amnesty bill. As I understand it, this limits discussion to 30 hours.</p>
<p>When both parties act so much alike, I&#8217;m not really going to feel too bad about voting for a 3rd party and possibly ending up with a repeat of 1992 with Clinton and Perot.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11542</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 20:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11542</guid>
		<description>Time for a new major party, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for a new major party, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: disgusted LEGAL citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11477</link>
		<dc:creator>disgusted LEGAL citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 22:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11477</guid>
		<description>I think the last time both parties had such HIGHLY unfavorable poll ratings it was called the American Revolution....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the last time both parties had such HIGHLY unfavorable poll ratings it was called the American Revolution&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11474</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 21:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11474</guid>
		<description>This isn't the first time Lingamfelter has proven to be a hypocrite.

Now he's got a tough stand on illegal immigration and yet he backs a candidate who makes a living off of illegal immigrants.  Hypocrite.

He signs a taxpayer's pledge - no new taxes.  And then he votes for the transportation boondoggle.  Hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the first time Lingamfelter has proven to be a hypocrite.</p>
<p>Now he&#8217;s got a tough stand on illegal immigration and yet he backs a candidate who makes a living off of illegal immigrants.  Hypocrite.</p>
<p>He signs a taxpayer&#8217;s pledge - no new taxes.  And then he votes for the transportation boondoggle.  Hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11473</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 21:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11473</guid>
		<description>"As for Batson, you sound like a Lucas campaign person or inexperienced in party politics."

You are wrong on both accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for Batson, you sound like a Lucas campaign person or inexperienced in party politics.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are wrong on both accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Fenian</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11432</link>
		<dc:creator>Fenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 03:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11432</guid>
		<description>10thdistrictrepublican, I think the immigration issue has become so emotional that many in our party have started making it a new litmus test.  

I have never in my many years held a single issue litmus test for a candidate.  With this betrayal of our federal govt. (both dems and the Pres.) the immigration issue has now become my litmus test.  That is where I think 'Batson' is coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10thdistrictrepublican, I think the immigration issue has become so emotional that many in our party have started making it a new litmus test.  </p>
<p>I have never in my many years held a single issue litmus test for a candidate.  With this betrayal of our federal govt. (both dems and the Pres.) the immigration issue has now become my litmus test.  That is where I think &#8216;Batson&#8217; is coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: 10thdistrictrepublican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11430</link>
		<dc:creator>10thdistrictrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 02:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11430</guid>
		<description>Jonathan after reading my previous post I believe I came off too harsh and should apologize to you. You have every right to post as any other just as long as Greg L. permits. I just got frustrated with you. It seems all you posts are the same exact stuff and you post it even if its unrelated. Greg's posts on the Gill primary when he has new info. I always appreciate that. Its not the same stuff over and over.  I do apologize and recognize your 1st amendment rights. 

As for Batson, you sound like a Lucas campaign person or inexperienced in party politics. I don't claim to know Lingamfelter but if you have been around politics too long you know those you support do not always back and support those you personally want to support in primary situation. I never hold it against my favorite elected officials when they go against my wishes in a primary. I you pout and issue threats when you don't get your way in a primary you get frustrated and eventually just quit. 

I always think its best to rally around the winner of a primary and not hold against those I disagree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan after reading my previous post I believe I came off too harsh and should apologize to you. You have every right to post as any other just as long as Greg L. permits. I just got frustrated with you. It seems all you posts are the same exact stuff and you post it even if its unrelated. Greg&#8217;s posts on the Gill primary when he has new info. I always appreciate that. Its not the same stuff over and over.  I do apologize and recognize your 1st amendment rights. </p>
<p>As for Batson, you sound like a Lucas campaign person or inexperienced in party politics. I don&#8217;t claim to know Lingamfelter but if you have been around politics too long you know those you support do not always back and support those you personally want to support in primary situation. I never hold it against my favorite elected officials when they go against my wishes in a primary. I you pout and issue threats when you don&#8217;t get your way in a primary you get frustrated and eventually just quit. </p>
<p>I always think its best to rally around the winner of a primary and not hold against those I disagree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11415</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 19:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11415</guid>
		<description>"Why do you turn possible post into a rant against Faisal Gill."

Well, Gill is part of the problem, not the solution, and Lingamfelter is supporting Gill. Additionally, Lingamfelter is a retired Army Officer, who pledged to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Gill also took that oath as a Naval officer, yet he has repeatedly chosen to associate with those who support enemies of our nation.

I used to be a Lingamfelter supporter, donated money to his campaigns, knocked doors for him, etc. Not this time. While I won't campaign against him, never again will I campaign for him. It matters little, now, what his position on illegals is. He's lost all credibility with me, and many of my friends (all former supporters).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why do you turn possible post into a rant against Faisal Gill.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Gill is part of the problem, not the solution, and Lingamfelter is supporting Gill. Additionally, Lingamfelter is a retired Army Officer, who pledged to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Gill also took that oath as a Naval officer, yet he has repeatedly chosen to associate with those who support enemies of our nation.</p>
<p>I used to be a Lingamfelter supporter, donated money to his campaigns, knocked doors for him, etc. Not this time. While I won&#8217;t campaign against him, never again will I campaign for him. It matters little, now, what his position on illegals is. He&#8217;s lost all credibility with me, and many of my friends (all former supporters).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11411</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11411</guid>
		<description>The last paragraph in the above post was not mine. I attached it in error.

"""This is both annoying and frankly disturbing."""

Then ask Greg L to ban me, or ask him to ask me to modify my posts, or don't come here anymore. I wouldn't want you to be annoyed.

"""your spamming"""

Spamming is when the intended recipient does not wish to receive the message. In this case the intended recipient is Greg L., not you. So I will do what Greg L. asks. 

"""as a rant against Gill is very annoying."""

Then get ready for an avalanche from everyone from Michelle Malkin to Frank Gaffney to the Democrats if Faisal wins in June. Since that prospect annoys you the rational choice is to nominate Julie, who would win in November, instead of Faisal who would lose.

"""Can’t we talk about anything without making it a anti-Gill rant?"""

You can talk about immigration as much as you please. Gill is A PARTNER IN AN IMMIGRATION LAW FIRM!!!!! Gill's firm represents illegal immigrants  who are attempting to delay and evade deportation.

So, if you want illegal immigrants to delay and evade immigration then you have your candidate...Faisal Gill!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last paragraph in the above post was not mine. I attached it in error.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"This is both annoying and frankly disturbing.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Then ask Greg L to ban me, or ask him to ask me to modify my posts, or don&#8217;t come here anymore. I wouldn&#8217;t want you to be annoyed.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"your spamming&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Spamming is when the intended recipient does not wish to receive the message. In this case the intended recipient is Greg L., not you. So I will do what Greg L. asks. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"as a rant against Gill is very annoying.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Then get ready for an avalanche from everyone from Michelle Malkin to Frank Gaffney to the Democrats if Faisal wins in June. Since that prospect annoys you the rational choice is to nominate Julie, who would win in November, instead of Faisal who would lose.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Can’t we talk about anything without making it a anti-Gill rant?&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>You can talk about immigration as much as you please. Gill is A PARTNER IN AN IMMIGRATION LAW FIRM!!!!! Gill&#8217;s firm represents illegal immigrants  who are attempting to delay and evade deportation.</p>
<p>So, if you want illegal immigrants to delay and evade immigration then you have your candidate&#8230;Faisal Gill!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11410</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 18:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11410</guid>
		<description>"""Why do you turn possible post into a rant against Faisal Gill."""

This is Greg L's blog, not yours. But since you object I will refrain from posting to your blog if you ever start one. Instead I will restrict myself to Greg's blog and my own.

I point out that Faisal Gill is a partner in an immigration law firm and profits from illegal immigration. His firm advertises that it will file tardy and dilatory asylum requests on behalf of illegal immigrants who are about to be deported.

Faisal IS ALL FOR KEEPING ILLEGALS HERE when he is advertising for their business. Perhaps you feel that Faisal is tricking his clients and in fact secretly wants them to be deported. 

It is your right to believe foolish things, but a reasonable person would conclude that due to the nature of Faisal's law practice and his target audience of illegal immigrants Faisal will not oppose illegal immigration.







 This is both annoying and frankly disturbing. I personally think both Gill and Lucas would make excellent delegates but your spamming just about every entry on this site as a rant against Gill is very annoying. Can’t we talk about anything without making it a anti-Gill rant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Why do you turn possible post into a rant against Faisal Gill.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>This is Greg L&#8217;s blog, not yours. But since you object I will refrain from posting to your blog if you ever start one. Instead I will restrict myself to Greg&#8217;s blog and my own.</p>
<p>I point out that Faisal Gill is a partner in an immigration law firm and profits from illegal immigration. His firm advertises that it will file tardy and dilatory asylum requests on behalf of illegal immigrants who are about to be deported.</p>
<p>Faisal IS ALL FOR KEEPING ILLEGALS HERE when he is advertising for their business. Perhaps you feel that Faisal is tricking his clients and in fact secretly wants them to be deported. </p>
<p>It is your right to believe foolish things, but a reasonable person would conclude that due to the nature of Faisal&#8217;s law practice and his target audience of illegal immigrants Faisal will not oppose illegal immigration.</p>
<p> This is both annoying and frankly disturbing. I personally think both Gill and Lucas would make excellent delegates but your spamming just about every entry on this site as a rant against Gill is very annoying. Can’t we talk about anything without making it a anti-Gill rant?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11408</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11408</guid>
		<description>FYI-
       The early edition of Sunday's WaPo has an article
       about the rapid rise of the ESL population in
       MCPS - (1650 in 2004, 2,260 in 2006 and "expected
       to reach 2,600 next fall" -- ESL kids  compose close to
       35% of the total student population). The piece
       notes we are spending  below the area norm but getting 
       above average results  - a real tribute to first
       rate teachers and staff. 

       A meeting with a high ranking PWH official last 
       week  -- they too are maxed out with care
       and expenditures for a rapidly growing Latino
       population that isn't able to pay their share.

       Is there money in the proposed bill to help
       communities like Manassas deal with the stress
       of  rapid and massive demographic change? 

       Not one damn dime.  
       Something to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI-<br />
       The early edition of Sunday&#8217;s WaPo has an article<br />
       about the rapid rise of the ESL population in<br />
       MCPS - (1650 in 2004, 2,260 in 2006 and &#8220;expected<br />
       to reach 2,600 next fall&#8221; &#8212; ESL kids  compose close to<br />
       35% of the total student population). The piece<br />
       notes we are spending  below the area norm but getting<br />
       above average results  - a real tribute to first<br />
       rate teachers and staff. </p>
<p>       A meeting with a high ranking PWH official last<br />
       week  &#8212; they too are maxed out with care<br />
       and expenditures for a rapidly growing Latino<br />
       population that isn&#8217;t able to pay their share.</p>
<p>       Is there money in the proposed bill to help<br />
       communities like Manassas deal with the stress<br />
       of  rapid and massive demographic change? </p>
<p>       Not one damn dime.<br />
       Something to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11407</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 17:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11407</guid>
		<description>In addition to contacting my Senators and Representative every time a piece of illegal immigration-related legislation is proposed, this time I also decided to contact John McCain.  I tried to contact him at his presidential campaign website, but there is no means on the site to send him an email.  Instead, I went to his Senate webpage and sent him a quick email congratulating him on having positively lost my vote for his presidential bid.

I always keep a completely open mind and I make notes regarding all candidates running for the Presidential nomination throughout the whole cycle.  Until this point, I hadn't completely written off anybody on either the Republican or Democratic side of the aisle as a contender (well, except Dennis Kucinich).  But with this piece of crap legislation, McCain officially put the nail in his coffin as far as I am concerned.  This certainly isn't his first major screw up, but it was the final straw.  And I told him so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to contacting my Senators and Representative every time a piece of illegal immigration-related legislation is proposed, this time I also decided to contact John McCain.  I tried to contact him at his presidential campaign website, but there is no means on the site to send him an email.  Instead, I went to his Senate webpage and sent him a quick email congratulating him on having positively lost my vote for his presidential bid.</p>
<p>I always keep a completely open mind and I make notes regarding all candidates running for the Presidential nomination throughout the whole cycle.  Until this point, I hadn&#8217;t completely written off anybody on either the Republican or Democratic side of the aisle as a contender (well, except Dennis Kucinich).  But with this piece of crap legislation, McCain officially put the nail in his coffin as far as I am concerned.  This certainly isn&#8217;t his first major screw up, but it was the final straw.  And I told him so.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11402</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11402</guid>
		<description>Another link: 
 http://article.nationalreview.com/
q=YjEzYTc5YjA2ZGNiZjlmZDJkMTllYmE4MjE3ZmY1OTY=

If this bill is so good, why wouldn't the public get to see it before the vote? Because it contains items the senate knows the American people will not tolerate. I will never understand why these politicians won't do the will of the American people. I guess they feel they are so far above us they don't have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another link:<br />
 <a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/</a><br />
q=YjEzYTc5YjA2ZGNiZjlmZDJkMTllYmE4MjE3ZmY1OTY=</p>
<p>If this bill is so good, why wouldn&#8217;t the public get to see it before the vote? Because it contains items the senate knows the American people will not tolerate. I will never understand why these politicians won&#8217;t do the will of the American people. I guess they feel they are so far above us they don&#8217;t have to.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11401</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11401</guid>
		<description>If this is true, 
 http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/05/19/bush_removes_provision_requiring_back_taxes_from_illegal_immigrants/ 

our President has really sold-out the American people.  People need to let Bush know this bill is unacceptable along with members of congress and senate.  Please go to helpsavemansaas.org to find out what needs to be done and how you can help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is true,<br />
 <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/05/19/bush_removes_provision_requiring_back_taxes_from_illegal_immigrants/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/05/19/bush_removes_provision_requiring_back_taxes_from_illegal_immigrants/</a> </p>
<p>our President has really sold-out the American people.  People need to let Bush know this bill is unacceptable along with members of congress and senate.  Please go to helpsavemansaas.org to find out what needs to be done and how you can help.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11400</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 15:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11400</guid>
		<description>I have to say I love the spin Del. Lingamfelter puts on this whole thing, as if it were a master plot hoisted upon Republicans.  Let's keep in mind that our(Republican) President has been asking for many of the very provisions contained in this bill for years.  Let's remember that it is traditionally Republican business leaders that have been asking for temporary worker programs.  Let's remember that it's been (traditionally) Democratic  unions that have some serious issue with this newest proposal.  While Lingamfelter does he best to lay this most recent attempt at "immigration reform" at the feet of Senate Dems, this truly is a bi-partisan dream/nightmare.

While immigration is not the highest issue on my radar or one that I would turn into a single litmus test for supporting a given candidate, I believe in the rule of law.  If you're here illegally today, you should be sent home, not given a free pass even if you are a "contributing" member of the community.  If you're a business owner that knowingly hires illegal immigrant labor, you should be fined.  If American business truly believes it has a shortage of workers that requires a worker visa program, how about offering livable wages first.  I bet you'd be surprised at the sudden labor pool that develops domestically.    We do have a need to refine and revise our current immigration laws to acknowledge that we a part of a global economy with mobile labor markets.  But, that reform doesn't have to mean a free pass for those who chose to ignore the law as it stands today.  When  Sara Jane Olden (nee Kathleen Soliah) was discovered living as a suburban housewife in Minnesota, the fact that she had created a new life for herself didn't give her an excuse to escape prosecution for an earlier crime.

Plus, 10thdistrictrepublican is right on the money in his comments to Jonathan Mark.  We've heard the song before and it's getting old.  You're almost as bad as "Interested Party" and his constant hijacking of threads to talk about Fotis for Sheriff (and no, IP, this is not an invitation for you to hijack this thread).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I love the spin Del. Lingamfelter puts on this whole thing, as if it were a master plot hoisted upon Republicans.  Let&#8217;s keep in mind that our(Republican) President has been asking for many of the very provisions contained in this bill for years.  Let&#8217;s remember that it is traditionally Republican business leaders that have been asking for temporary worker programs.  Let&#8217;s remember that it&#8217;s been (traditionally) Democratic  unions that have some serious issue with this newest proposal.  While Lingamfelter does he best to lay this most recent attempt at &#8220;immigration reform&#8221; at the feet of Senate Dems, this truly is a bi-partisan dream/nightmare.</p>
<p>While immigration is not the highest issue on my radar or one that I would turn into a single litmus test for supporting a given candidate, I believe in the rule of law.  If you&#8217;re here illegally today, you should be sent home, not given a free pass even if you are a &#8220;contributing&#8221; member of the community.  If you&#8217;re a business owner that knowingly hires illegal immigrant labor, you should be fined.  If American business truly believes it has a shortage of workers that requires a worker visa program, how about offering livable wages first.  I bet you&#8217;d be surprised at the sudden labor pool that develops domestically.    We do have a need to refine and revise our current immigration laws to acknowledge that we a part of a global economy with mobile labor markets.  But, that reform doesn&#8217;t have to mean a free pass for those who chose to ignore the law as it stands today.  When  Sara Jane Olden (nee Kathleen Soliah) was discovered living as a suburban housewife in Minnesota, the fact that she had created a new life for herself didn&#8217;t give her an excuse to escape prosecution for an earlier crime.</p>
<p>Plus, 10thdistrictrepublican is right on the money in his comments to Jonathan Mark.  We&#8217;ve heard the song before and it&#8217;s getting old.  You&#8217;re almost as bad as &#8220;Interested Party&#8221; and his constant hijacking of threads to talk about Fotis for Sheriff (and no, IP, this is not an invitation for you to hijack this thread).</p>
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		<title>By: 10thdistrictrepublican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11396</link>
		<dc:creator>10thdistrictrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 13:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11396</guid>
		<description>Why do you turn possible post into a rant against Faisal Gill. This is both annoying and frankly disturbing.  I personally think both Gill and Lucas would make excellent delegates but your spamming just about every entry on this site as a rant against Gill is very annoying. Can't we talk about anything without making it a anti-Gill rant? 

BTW, I urge everyone to contact your Congressman and both Senators here in Virginia. If nothing else, you will get it off your chest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you turn possible post into a rant against Faisal Gill. This is both annoying and frankly disturbing.  I personally think both Gill and Lucas would make excellent delegates but your spamming just about every entry on this site as a rant against Gill is very annoying. Can&#8217;t we talk about anything without making it a anti-Gill rant? </p>
<p>BTW, I urge everyone to contact your Congressman and both Senators here in Virginia. If nothing else, you will get it off your chest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11384</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 04:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/05/18/the-amnesty-sell-out/#comment-11384</guid>
		<description>You know, Lingamfelter makes a lot of noise about immigration. So does his fellow Gill-endorser Ken Cuccinelli. 

But the fact remains. Lingamfelter went to the Faisal Gill campaign kickoff. Lingamfelter bellowed at the crowd of Faisal supporters, "what are you going to do to get this man elected?"

Now, it so happens that Faisal Gill is a partner in the immigration law firm of Gill [, Ghafoor] and Gallinger. If Lingamfelter were so inclined he could visit http://gillgallinger.com/practice_immigration.asp . 

If Lingamfelter were so inclined he could read the following on the Gill [, Ghafoor] and Gallinger website:

"""We can also help you apply for Withholding of Removal (allowing you stay in 
the U.S. when otherwise eligible for deportation) and gaining protection based on the United Nations Convention Against Torture.
Deportation/RemovalEven if you or your loved one is already in the process of being removed from the U.S., Gill &#38; Gallinger may be able to help.  We can help you qualify for protection from deportation based on Cancellation of Removal, Waiver of Deportation, Asylum, or other methods.  Time is extremely important in situations dealing with possible removal, so contact the Gill &#38; Gallinger today for a free consultation."""

What that means is that Gill is offering to file asylum applications on behalf of people who do not apply for asylum when they enter the United States, as they are supposed to. Rather, these people violate our immigration laws. Then when they are caught and about to be deported Gill then offers to file asylum applications for them.

Gill is advertising for business among these illegal aliens. He is worse than an ambulance chaser. He is a deportee chaser. 

Let me ask you a question. How opposed to illegal immigration is Lingamfelter when he wants to send a lawyer for the worst kinds of illegal immigrants to Richmond? A lawher for illegal immigrants who makes dilatory, meritless asylum applications on behalf of people who never filed for asylum when they entered the US (possibly illegally.)

Tom Tancredo would never, not ever, endorse a deportee-chasing partner in an immigration law firm like Faisal Gill  for elective office. 

Lingamfelter is like all the other pols. He is opposed to illegal immigration up until the time when his political allies make money from illegal immigration, as Faisal Gill does. Then Lingamfelter looks the other way.

What does Lingamfelter think about his endorsee Faisal Gill advertising that he will file asylum applications for deportees?

Then Lingamfelter looks the other way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Lingamfelter makes a lot of noise about immigration. So does his fellow Gill-endorser Ken Cuccinelli. </p>
<p>But the fact remains. Lingamfelter went to the Faisal Gill campaign kickoff. Lingamfelter bellowed at the crowd of Faisal supporters, &#8220;what are you going to do to get this man elected?&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, it so happens that Faisal Gill is a partner in the immigration law firm of Gill [, Ghafoor] and Gallinger. If Lingamfelter were so inclined he could visit <a href="http://gillgallinger.com/practice_immigration.asp" rel="nofollow">http://gillgallinger.com/practice_immigration.asp</a> . </p>
<p>If Lingamfelter were so inclined he could read the following on the Gill [, Ghafoor] and Gallinger website:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"We can also help you apply for Withholding of Removal (allowing you stay in<br />
the U.S. when otherwise eligible for deportation) and gaining protection based on the United Nations Convention Against Torture.<br />
Deportation/RemovalEven if you or your loved one is already in the process of being removed from the U.S., Gill &amp; Gallinger may be able to help.  We can help you qualify for protection from deportation based on Cancellation of Removal, Waiver of Deportation, Asylum, or other methods.  Time is extremely important in situations dealing with possible removal, so contact the Gill &amp; Gallinger today for a free consultation.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>What that means is that Gill is offering to file asylum applications on behalf of people who do not apply for asylum when they enter the United States, as they are supposed to. Rather, these people violate our immigration laws. Then when they are caught and about to be deported Gill then offers to file asylum applications for them.</p>
<p>Gill is advertising for business among these illegal aliens. He is worse than an ambulance chaser. He is a deportee chaser. </p>
<p>Let me ask you a question. How opposed to illegal immigration is Lingamfelter when he wants to send a lawyer for the worst kinds of illegal immigrants to Richmond? A lawher for illegal immigrants who makes dilatory, meritless asylum applications on behalf of people who never filed for asylum when they entered the US (possibly illegally.)</p>
<p>Tom Tancredo would never, not ever, endorse a deportee-chasing partner in an immigration law firm like Faisal Gill  for elective office. </p>
<p>Lingamfelter is like all the other pols. He is opposed to illegal immigration up until the time when his political allies make money from illegal immigration, as Faisal Gill does. Then Lingamfelter looks the other way.</p>
<p>What does Lingamfelter think about his endorsee Faisal Gill advertising that he will file asylum applications for deportees?</p>
<p>Then Lingamfelter looks the other way.</p>
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