I wish we were not faced with a candidates whose past record warrants what you call “…attack all the time.” Unfortunately, the record of Faisal Gill is there; it’s there and it’s available to the public for evaluation. I wish it weren’t, both for his sake and for our sake, but it is. There are those who wish to ignore that record, but it’s there — it can’t be erased. We didn’t create it, we can’t erase it…sadly it’s there, like it or not.

There are those who support Gill without knowing his past association with convicted terrorists. There are those who do not know of his abominable driving record and apparent disregard for traffic laws. There are those who do not know (or recognize the illegality) of using the military uniform to advance his political career — as a retired Air Force officer, I find that particularly distasteful. …and his performance record goes on and on. These are not “minor issues,” and speaking of his record does not constitute “an attack all the time.”

I wish those facts of character did not exist so we could concentrate ONLY on key issues of the community — taxes, roads, schools, immigration and so on. However, his record IS there, and it’s the best way I know to predict future performance. In my opinion, Faisal Gill’s undeniable, publicly available record is absolutely deplorable. You may wish to ignore it, but in my opinion, that record renders him unfit for public office. That’s not “an attack,” that’s an assessment of his past record…a record that he alone created.

I find disturbing the complacency of the typical voter. You would be surprised at the number of people who are so consumed with their work, their car problems, their family life and so on that they don’t know — even at THIS point– that there IS such a thing as the Virginia House of Delegates, much less know who is running for office. However, even MORE disturbing to me is the person who DOES know the facts but dismisses “the Faisal Gill story” as unimportant. It is sad.

I am glad that James Young uses the phrase “illicit activity.” While all illegal activity is illicit, not all illicit activity is illegal.

For instance, lying is an illicit activity. Cheating on your girl friend or boy friend is an illicit activity. Praying to Satan is an illicit activity. Yet all of these activities are usually legal.

So let us keep in mind the concept of “illicit activity” when we ask what it was that Faisal was lobbying for when he was the AMCs chief lobbyist.

Yesterday Not Larry Sabato commented on some now-known illicit activity of Faisal’s. In 2001 Faisal while the AMC chief lobbyist stormed out of a White House meeting to protest the exclusion of the now-imprisoned Sami Al-Arian’s son. Faisal and some other representatives of extremist groups such as the Moslem Public Affairs Council then issued an insulting letter that denigrated the White House security personnel.

You can read Not Larry Sabato’s article about Gill here.

http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2007/05/memorial_day_me.html

It has a link ot the original article in IslamOnline describing the incident.

http://www.islamonline.net/english/news/2001-06/29/article2.shtml

“”"And yet, Faisal is neither in jail, nor under indictment, nor even a witness, so far as we are aware.”"”

James Young writes at the top of his posting about “illicit” or shameful activity. Yet when he defends Faisal he claims that Faisal has done nothing illegal. But as I point out, the two concepts are not identical.

I would hope that as AMC chief lobbyist Faisal has made certain that his interactions with his boss/client Abdurahman Alamoudi did not involve Faisal himself engaging in illegal acts.

Did Faisal know that there was something funny with AMCs finances (i.e. money from Libya?) He may have suspected. He may not have.

One former AMC volunteer said that he suspected something was wrong because the organization was always pleading poverty but maintained a large office and staff. The former volunteer said that he asked Alamoudi for access to the AMCs financial information, and Alamoudi refused. The volunteer then quit.

Faisal would have been stupid to have committed illegal acts at the behest of Abdurahman Alamoudi. But ILLICIT acts? Yes, Faisal engaged in them. One incident we know of was the letter Faisal signed denigrating White House security personnel. Another was the very act of Faisal storming out of the White House in the first place.

Just because the people Faisal was with stormed out of the White House and wrote a nasty letter impugning the WH security people doesn’t mean that Faisal had to.

What if the people Faisal was with had jumped off a cliff. Would Faisal have jumped off a cliff too?

Why is Gill and his law firm obstructing terror investigations?

Do they want the terrorists to accomplish their goals?

Gill and his law firm threaten to expose the intelligence collection process in open court thereby aiding the enemy avoid detection in the future.

My prediction: Gill wins on June 2.

And yet, Faisal is neither in jail, nor under indictment, nor even a witness, so far as we are aware.

To use your construction, someone could also say “F. Lee Bailey was, for a period of time, regularly seen in the company of convicted murderer Sam Shepard.”

You’ve created this little fantasy out of your obviously racist beliefs about anyone who is a Muslim, and who dares to associate with other Muslims. It’s a sad little cloudcuckooland that you inhabit, and sadder still that yours may be seen by some mainstream, moderate Muslims who want to be good Americans as a stereotypical American voice.

Faisal Gill was the chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi’s American Muslim Council. When we say, “Google Faisal Gill” we mean do your own research or follow the links we post.

Sift through the evidence to see if Faisal did what we say, if his partnership with Asim Ghafoor is what we say it is, etc.

Compare our hard facts about Faisal to the unsourced postings about Julie. There is Mary Hill’s Faisal-was-a-secret-agent narrative, and there is Oldie’s claim about someone’s sex life.

For some hard facts about Faisal, just Google Faisal Gill. The first article which popped up is Michelle Malkin’s “Who is Faisal Gill?” Malkin cites an earlier Salon magazine report on Gill. James Young should tell us what of the following he claims is false. Remember also that since the time of the Malkin/Salon articles Abdurahman Alamoudi has pleaded guilty and received a 23-year sentence for terrorist money-laundering:

http://www.michellemalkin.com/archives/000070.htm

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[Gill was] briefly removed from his job in March when the Federal Bureau of Investigation discovered he had failed to disclose his association with Abdurahman Alamoudi, a jailed American Muslim leader. Alamoudi was indicted last year on terrorism-related money-laundering charges and now claims to have been part of a plot to assassinate Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Abdullah.

—SNIP—-

After a flurry of interagency meetings, however, Homeland Security decided to leave the policy director, Faisal Gill, in place, according to two government officials with knowledge of the Alamoudi investigation. A White House political appointee with close ties to Republican power broker Grover Norquist and no apparent background in intelligence, Gill has access to top-secret information on the vulnerability of America’s seaports, aviation facilities and nuclear power plants to terrorist attacks.

—-SNIP—-

The FBI raised concerns with Homeland Security officials in March after discovering that Gill had failed to list on security clearance documents his work in 2001 with the American Muslim Council, the officials said. The advocacy group, which was controlled by Alamoudi, has been under scrutiny in an investigation of terrorism financing. The lead agent in that investigation works for an arm of Homeland Security. Gill’s omission of the information on his “Standard Form 86″ national security questionnaire is a potential felony violation. There is no evidence, however, that Gill has taken any action to compromise national security.

A Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman would not comment on Gill or when he was hired, except to say that a “thorough investigation” by the department’s Office of Security found no basis to deny the 32-year-old lawyer a security clearance. Among Gill’s political patrons is Grover Norquist, head of Americans for Tax Reform and a key ally of the White House. Gill listed Norquist as a reference on employment documents, the government officials said. Gill also worked in 2001 for a Muslim political outreach organization that Norquist co-founded with a former top aide to Alamoudi. Norquist did not respond to phone calls, a fax and an e-mail seeking comment.

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How about it Jim Young? Tell us what in the above article you believe is false. Tell us, if you can.

Gillespie also told Rush Limbaugh to his face that the era of small government is over and that the era of Reagan is over.

Gillespie led the fight for the White House to massively increase Government SPENDING. The Reagan budgets were less than one trillion dollars when Reagan left office. Now the Federal Budgets are over three trillion with large deficits.

Gillespie destroyed major parts of the conservative movement by arm twisting, lobbying and threatening many congressmen to vote for liberal Bush spending policies.

Does Gill endorse those policies?

I’m surprised that those of you who credit every negative, innuendo-filled, guilt-by-association comment about Faisal do so, however.

This video remake by a 2nd rate actor and German music icon is good for a laugh (turn up your volume):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5723893266910487152

Secret Agent Man - the new Faisal Gill theme song!

Let’s see now, there’s reckless driving, failure to attend PWCRC meetings when he was Vice-Chair of the party, running the Taxpayer’s Alliance into the ground, screwing up a labor day picnic, huge numbers of problematic delegate filings, using his uniform as a campaign prop (against regulations), giving the “blog ate our candidate filing” excuse to the MJM on behalf of Steve Chapman’s campaign, and looking like a bag of donuts despite being required to maintain a level of fitness according to Navy standards.

I’m sure I left some things out. It’s getting hard to keep track of this list.

I thought that the answer was yes, Patrice disputed that Faisal was a lobbyist. That was my interpretation of “You can certainly argue that there is nothing wrong with being a lobbyist without admitting to being a lobbyist yourself….”

“”"Jeez, I think Faisal Gill is the worst candidate for the Republicans to choose.”"”

In that case I apologize for misunderstanding what she wrote.

You write “Why do Patrice and Jim Young dispute the simple, self-admitted (by Faisal) fact that Faisal is a lobbyist?”

If you had bothered to READ the entire thread, you would have seen me say this:

“What were Faisal Gill’s words in the mailing?? (I haven’t seen it)”

Did I dispute he was a lobbyist? No. I asked a simple question because I hadn’t seen the mailer.

Are you on crack?

Look… Obviously your thick skull blocks most of what you read from getting to your brain. But you at this point you are just embarrassing yourself by repeatedly fabricating things I have said. That is twice now in this thread.

Jeez, I think Faisal Gill is the worst candidate for the Republicans to choose. He will get destroyed by Nichols. I’m supporting Julie all the way. But if everyone on Julie’s side does as poor of a job representing us, then we are in big trouble.

Stop flailing around wildly. You are making a fool of yourself.

I trust that they did NOT give such consent…but instead, that the flyer represents a last minute, frantic Gill “leap of faith” effort to convince casual Republicans that he’s a good, honest, reliable, and trustworthy guy. How sad.

Moldie,

You should at least cite a reference. Where is your proof?

That is like me saying ‘Is it true that Gill had Hamas members to his house for dinner?, If so, where is his patriotism?”