I can only hope that when “Gunslinger” Deeds finally is beamed up to the “mother Ship,” he will take the fraudalent LEAA with him…..

Ted, is that “Down and Dirty” enough for you…what a buffoon.

HR 218 was written by disgraced Congressman Randy “Duke” Cunningham…..Fotis and Deeds were all giddy when it passed….Now, nary a comment. The law has caused mass confusion among retired Law Enforcement Officers who are looking for some guidance. Telephone calls are not returned and mail goes unanswered…..

Thankfully, the voters of PWC saw through this charade…..

www.fotisforsheriff.com

It’s now fully apparent that Jim Fotis, Jeff Doyle and Ted Deeds have shown their true colors. A campaign based entirely upon lies, denials, obfuscations and personal insult is no way to get elected. But these guys were so dirty that they apparently believed that they had no other alternative but to distract people away from their record of gross mismanagement at LEAA.

Like rats fleeing a sinking ship, where will they scurry to next?

Fotis got skunked!!!!!

Glendell Hill 3,971 votes = 61.20%
Michael W. Messier 1,340 votes = 20.65%
James J. Fotis 1,177 votes = 18.14%

Now, where are Ted Deeds and Jeff Doyle hiding? Are they back under the rock they crawled out from under?

The Hill supporters are saying the form does not matter, is okay with them (for various reasons including some who hate ____ type of guns, and don’t want that ‘type’ living near them).

Others are still claiming the form does not exist, or alternatively and with no apprenent problem with the contradiction, that the one online is a ‘fraud’ presumably (and I am NOT making this up) presumably becasue the for profit business that posted it did so in a PDF format that allows the gun buyer to click on the symbol and type in their answers so the printed form can be submitted to Sheriff Hlll…

You can see the attacks better (and a partial copy of the form prominentely stamped ‘fraud’ at :

http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/a-lie-exposed/#comment-13314

As a hard-corp gun guy myself I can see why those who support Hill — when there is such a good pro Second Amendment candidate challenging him — are desperate to obfuscate and obscure!

Yours for the Second Amendment (for all guns and not just duck hunting and not just pretty shotguns!)

I’ve read and reread the various posts and the only striaght answers seem to be from those who maintain that the Secret Form, or whatever, does not relate to a VA concealed carry permit. So why have people opposed to Hill insist that it does?

If in fact the form concerns automatic weapons, machine guns, sawed offs, etc, that’s a separate issure and is not handled at the Sheriff’s level but at the BATFE level, no?

I’m an NRA lifer, but I always keep in mind that the NRA, God bless it, is concerned with only one issue and supports candidates based on that one issue. Good for them, they are staying within their bounds of interest. Unfortunately, I cannot usually choose candidates based on only one issue.

Also unfortunately, replies in disagreement to my posts tend to quickly mention a relevent point…and then go off on some tangent that is completely outside the boundaries of the Sheriff’s office.

Case in point: What does the Sheriff’s office have to do with “criminal activity by illegal aliens” All the Sheriff’s office does in connection to that is transport the criminals once they’re in the system. If Hill came out saying he’s going to fight illegal alien crime, I’d call him a BS artist, too.

I still fully believe that Fotis and his supporters say “illegal alien” and count on voters hearing just “alien.” I have heard too many friends and neighbors parrot these statements to believe otherwise. The immigration issue is coming down on Hispanics today the exact same way it came down on immigrants the last 150 years. And people like Fotis play on native-born Americans’ fear-based prejudices to get elected, just like so many others have done since the 1850’s. And people still fall for it!

Nothing will make someone lose my vote faster than trying to BS me.

Where’s that form? If it truly as bad as it sounds, why isn’t someone waving it around for all to see? Did Hill “create” it? Is it his or the BATFE’s? The state’s? The Feds? Do I have to sign it for CHP? The people who “got a raw deal from Hill,” what was the raw deal? That they got turned down for a permit for no good reason?

I’m happy to change my mind if I’m presented with clear fact, not unreferenced anecdotal evidence.

IP: Please, please please post this form!!! Please have the lawyers pick today to file criminal charges against Hill! Please contact the Post and Journal-Messenger!

Otherwise…please stop with the Secret Protocals of Sheriff Hill, please stop with the idea that the Sheriff’s office can stop illegal aliens, please stop with avoiding the main points of this thread.

I just did a Google search on his name. He’s a Fotis underling without any apparent law enforcement background. Why they’d position him as a front-man for a quasi-police organization is a mystery to me. But, we’d have to ask ourselves whether someone with an LE background would want to be complicit in the financial misadventures that LEAA is apparently guilty of. Concealing books from board members is much easier than concealing them from your “Chief Operating Officer,” which Deeds claims to be on his rather sophomoric website;

http://www.dead-by-dawn.org/dbdted.htm

Anyone trying to get answers about alleged LEAA misconduct gets labeled as a liberal. Issues aren’t addressed, again, but the name-calling commences, again. And I’ve tried to keep the nature of my questions as civil as possible. Apparently Fotis’ people can’t address the troubling issues that are dogging him, or have been told not to try.

For the record, I’m a Life NRA member. I’ve voted Republican for the last 18 years - and not for Giuliani-type Republicans. So, the name-calling was a ruse to again distract people away from issues that Fotis’ people can’t or won’t answer.

George Soros funded attack on the conservative group LEAA
New England malcontent squad who are carrying a grudge from over 10 years ago
Molly Ivins, left-leaning, attack agenda

Please stay out of Virginia politics. Please.

Yes, conservative leaders (like Jim Fotis) have left-wing, out of state political enemies. If they are conservative — particularly if they have been effective — they make enemies from those who support the far-left agenda.

Yes, the information that has appeared on another blog on this website has been disturbing, to say the least.

http://www.bvbl.net/?p=983#comment-12104

And the “Fotis for Sheriff” camp has done nothing to refute any of it except to launch into name-calling tirades. I was hoping we’d get some answers from Fotis that would address the issues raised - documented evidence from LEAA that the money laundering allegations raised by investigative reporters are somehow a misunderstanding.

We didn’t get that from the Fotis camp in the other blog. Will we get it here? Financial disclosures are an integral part of running for political office and Jim Fotis has been the Executive Director of LEAA for 15+ years. Fotis has literally attempted to define himself by his work at LEAA. It’s therefore only fair to ask whether we could separate Fotis from allegations of financial mismanagement and improprieties at LEAA. That is a fair assumption, is it not?

Hopefully we’ll see more civility here than we did in the other Fotis for Sheriff blog.

I have personally talked to gun folks who felt they got raw deal from Sheriff Hill. That is a fact. You may chose to not believe it.

At the end of the day either Sheriff Hill is so bad on the self-defense/right to own a gun; or,

Fotis is so much better, that every Second Amendment group that has weighed into this to express an opinion has decided to support Fotis For Sheriff.

Including:

The National Rifle Association of America (PAC)
The Virginia State Shooting Sports Association
The Viginia Citizens’ Defense League (PAC)
Gun Owners of America (PAC)

Other Second Amendment leaders, like Citizen’s Committe for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) and Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) founder, Alan Gottlieb have publicly come out, strongly in favor of James J. Fotis for Sheriff.

(When is the last time you can remember all those conservative, pro-constituion groups being behind one candidate in a race such as this?)

Sheriff Hill has publicly made it clear, that on behalf of the Dept, he opposes gun owners having loaded guns for self-defense, home defense (and he didn’t even make a distinction for those with CHP’s) and warns citizens not to do it!

Hill thinks it is perfectly okay to create a hostile ’special form’ (without statutory authority) and make would-be gun owners answer Hill’s offensive/invasive questions… including wanting to know if you will have a child in the home with the gun, what is your profession is, have you ever served in the US MILITARY!!! etc. That is wrong! (Can we infer that there are wrong answers such as: Yes I was a Marine, Yes I do have a child at home …. and those answers are the reason Hill won’t sign your BATFE form?) Since when is military service (or lack of it) or having kids (or lack of it) any darn businses of the Sheriff? Why did Sheriff Hill chose to link these quesiton to gun ownership?

Sheriff Hill spout rhetoric that mirrors the approach and content of anti-gun propoganda put out by the likes of Bill Clinton, Chuck Schumer, and Sarah Brady (HCI, et al). In the course of this campaign he had opportunities through candidate surveys, his website, public appearances and media interviews to speak clearly on this issue and proclaim a different position if this were untrue.

The fact that Sheriff Hill has not publicly challenged any part of his record or clarified a single part of this should be indicative of just how hostile he is to the Second Amendment.

Hill’s supporters have said that none of this matters, none of this ‘proves’ Sheriff Hill’s Anti-Second Amendment, anti-self defense, anti-gun owner bias…. I think voters who “Vote Freedom First” might just disagree!

Want some independent insights? What the Fotis drones refuse to answer to is why LEAA has become a money laundering machine over the last 7 years - one that refuses to disclose where their money is coming from, and who they are beholden to.

Kim Fotis will want you all to ignore the facts about her husbands’ “creative financing” schemes but anyone even remotely considering Fotis should know the truth about him. Check out the investigative pieces that have been done on LEAA;

http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=1713

http://www.stealthpacs.org/profile.cfm?org_id=175

http://www.stealthpacs.org/notebook/

(LEAA notes at bottom of page)

http://www.tpj.org/page_view.jsp?pageid=701&pubid=462

http://www.votelaw.com/blog/archives/campaign_finance/

[Ed note: I know for a fact that Kim Fotis is not posting under a pseudonym. She is a very fine woman who has added a lot of class in this race, and your smear of her is disturbing, in the least.]