As far as the current campain, this is Police Department insider ball that really has no bearing on what the voters care about in the Primary election for Sheriff. Before Hill, the average citizen just saw Law enforcement departments not cooperaing with one another, a duplication of services, and turf battles.

There was more coordination between the Sheriff’s Office and the Police Department than within the police Department itself.
When I was employed with the PWCPD there was NO coordination between Special Operations or the Patrol Division for radar enforcement locations. Each division conducted radar enforcement independent of each other. This problem could have been easily resolved by putting enforcement dates and locations on the patrol roll call board. But the Chief’s Office received complaints from citizens regarding officers speeding while on-duty. The C.O.P. decided not to inform patrol officers where the radar stations were established because he wanted them to get caught and the incidents reported to him. One specific incident I remember was radar enforcement on officer traffic in and out of the police academy. In my opinion, the only duplication of services came from with the same department (apparently due to “iron hand” Deane’s internal enforcement).

Giving Glen Hill credit for bringing the Sheriff’s Office and the Police Department together on the same radio channels is misleading. For years Charlie Deane was tasked with fixing a grossly outdated emergency communications system. It wasn’t until Deane faced losing coordination of the program from the BOCS for delaying the project that something was done. A police lieutenant named Scott Dillon was appointed as the head of a radio committee and worked directly with Mike Messier to establish the needs of the Sheriff’s Office within the replacement system.

I don’t want to mislead the public so correct me if the facts told to me by street deputies are incorrect. When Glen Hill came to the Sheriff’s Office, street deputies were ordered to turn in the uniform traffic summons books that were issued to them. The effect of this action was for traffic violators to once again speed past on-duty deputies and commit red light violations with deputies helpless to enforce the observed violation. If this is true, as a citizen of Prince William County, I would be looking to elect another candidate.

My issues with Charlie Deane would not be tied to this election if I knew deputies were at least enforcing observed violations. It is a complete waste of existing assets to have civil process deputies without enforcement authority. They are able to completely enforce state criminal & traffic laws by state constitution. A policy to give street deputies the authority to use their enforcement authority while on-duty would at least show that Glen Hill isn’t controlled by Deane’s vision of the Sheriff’s role in county law enforcement.

I am not advocating the Sheriff compete with the police department. The Memorandum of Understanding (M.O.U.)regarding primary enforcement duties agreed to by the C.O.P. and Sheriff establishes an outline of duties of the two agencies, and it was agreed to by the BOCS. But it does not revoke enforcement authority of deputies. The BOCS does not have the authority to rewrite the state constitution. I am pleading for whoever wins the election to put radar enforcement cabability back into the hands of the Sheriff’s Office.

Before Glen Hill came to office, deputies were stopping and arresting wanted people, suspended drivers, finding drugs in vehicles, and causing drivers to slow down in the presence of deputies. All at no cost to taxpayers. The equipent was obtained by grant money from the state, as well as obtaining money for enforcement details. What a waste not to utilize such an enforcement asset.

I know if Mike Messier were elected, the Sheriff’s Office would begin enforcement of observed violations. I am not that familiar with Fortis but would support him as well if enforcement were part of his platform. I would support Hill if he broke off his current relationship with Charlie Deane and put enforcement back into the hands of deputies. But that cannot not occur until the current M.O.U. expires. And under Glen Hill there have been no guarantees that he will change it.

Good Time Charlie

Please state for the record where you have read or heard that Hill is anti-gun or is this just another delusional vision that you have had?

And for the record please state what you know about Hill’s involvement as a Jail Board member, with the approval of the 287g for the Adult Detention Center ?

Please state for the record what you mean by political oriented battles that will have a direct impact on the citizens safety?

Please stop talking in circles and say what you have to say which so far has not been much at all.

Did you have a nice day at work, (LEAA) yesterday? Jim Fotis sign your paycheck yesterday?

You are unbelievable to think for one second that the citizens of Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park are that ignorant to you, Fotis and the lies that have been told on Sheriff Hill. Please don’t under estimate the citizens here….they may be that way in Fairfax where you live not here by a stretch!!!!!

VOTE HILL JUNE 12

From all that I have seen there are some areas where Sheriff Hill could have decided to lead on — and represent the people’s concerns on — law and order issues (such as criminal illegal aliens) and Sheriff Hill has decided to hide rather than lead!

Other Hill supporters have suggested that Hill needs to be given a second term in office - that he needs more time to begin to learn to lead - to begin to address some of these ‘other’ concerns. The problem with that is this: It 2003 then candidate Hill pledged to represent the people if he were entrusted with the job of Sheriff.

Four years later there are NO examples of — and I’ve done pretty exhaustive research, and even asked Hill supporters unsuccessfully to provide single example of — NOT ONE example they of Hill leading/representing the people’s concerns on any particular law and order issue.

This includes Sheriff Hill being completelyh MIA on the criminal illegal alien issues(s).

As the elected representative on law and order issues, as the CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer)combined with his 2003 campaing pledge, by now Sheriff Hill should have done something/have some record of leading on law and order isues (like criminal illegal aliens) and representing the people’s concerns, even if that meant putting a little good ole political pressure on the Chief to help ‘encourage him’ to do what needed doing to protect the people and make them safe!

For people who want more from their elected law and order leader (Sheriff) I would commend to their attention: James J Fotis for sheriff.

www.fotisforsheriff.com

- Unlike Hill, Fotis has the support of virtually all of the Second Amendment community; Hill is anti-gun
- Fotis is already engaged on the criminal illegal alien front ; and,
- James J. Fotis as Sheriff is willing to ‘lead’ in political oriented battles that have a direct impact on YOUR SAFETY!

Anyway, back to the subject: Any problems here with assistance from the Sheriff’s Department in supplementing enforcement fall squarely on the shoulders of Chief Deane, and not Glen Hill. The official policy for the Sheriff in this county is that he is to provide deputies only at the request of the head of the local law enforcement agency (City or County Police). This is precisely to prevent redundancy; however, if there are needs in the County Police Department, it should be incumbent upon the Chief to request that assistance. Glen is doing exactly what he should be…to do otherwise (as Stoffregen did) would create chaos, and did (I witnessed quite a few examples of that during the last Sheriff’s race, with Deputies and County Police competing with each other).

I would not be at all surprised to hear that Deane should be replaced…actually, I’ve heard it from more than one person. You need to address this to the County Board of Supervisors, and an election year is a really good time to do it, but don’t lay this at the feet of Glen Hill…it doesn’t belong there.

Oh yea…then there was the “little” matter of selling badges for campaign cash that Messier stood by and witnessed (or participated in?) for years, but that came to the public’s attention primarily after the election.

There is other data I think would expose how effective Charlie Deane is as a leader. Arrests numbers through self-initiated contact. When he became C.O.P. the PWCPD was a great place to work, and few sworn members turned in their badge. Street officers used to pride themselves in finding criminals in the act of committing crimes. Slowly I watched Deane change the street mentality of enforcement measures. He immediately changed the direction of internal issues by having the Internal investigations Unit report directly to him instead of being independent from administration influence. More power and influence was achieved by this move. He could now direct and influence the outcome of any investigation. Over time, several great public servants have had investigations work against them for what appears to be a simple lack of regard Deane had for them. But it appears his personal campaigns against his officers has caught up to him. After observing several “good cops” get insanely disciplined for acts which should have produced positive recognition or valor awards (Andrew Cornell fighting for his life while immigrants attacked), it appears street officers have gone into employment survival mode by staying in their cars.

My understanding of this incident from reliable sources was that his first back-up remained with his police car waiting for additional help while Cornell was getting beaten by numerous hispanic subjects. The unwillingness of the initial back-up to get involved was a major factor in the need to use deadly force. While defending himself during the investigation, Cornell demanded that charges of cowardice be placed against the back-up officer. But investigators refused, deciding instead to place procedural charges against Cornell. The fall out from this incident. Andrew Cornell who was an outstanding cop, became disgusted with the manner this was handled and quit. Another head scatching incident brought to you from the desk of Charlie Deane.

But many cases of “Good Time Charlie” investigating off duty personal and/or marital issues have left several officers looking for another department or another line or work (both voluntarily or by firing). When I worked for Deane the department’s citizen/officer ratio was well below both recommended F.O.P. staffing levels and ratios of surrounding jurisdictions. I bet those ratios haven’t changed much.

While at a briefing, I witnessed Deane engaged in a topic involving police retention. I heard Deane remark, “police officers no longer have loyalty.” I immediately realized that someone needed to clue this man into the actual problem………….loyalty is a two way street. When your reputation as a leader suggests that you are finding ways to fire your officers for minor incidents on or off-duty, department members will desert you for no other reason but self preservation. But the great looking women and “yes” men he has surrounded himself with would not risk their career by informing him that he might be the problem.

But things look great from the outside. I’m sure he will get support from the PWCPD Police association. And why not? He has promoted almost all association presidents for their cooperation and support of his internal policies. Another smart power play. The truth surrounding the leadership of the association (which I was a member) is that if you stay out of the way, vote on the Chief’s personnel decisions he presents to you, and not worry about representing department members, you will be rewarded. A message to all promotion oriented newer officers. If you want those sergeant strips, get on the sergeant’s list and become an elected position with the police association and just do as Deane tells you.

I could continue to expose “the puzzle palace” with numerous incidents involving this man. But the citizens of PWC need to embrace this thought. Charlie Deane is a very powerful man. He sits on the jail board, has undue influence in the Sheriff’s Office with the election of Glen Hill, and doesn’t forget those who question policy within his police department. If you feel safer in PWC than you did 20 years ago, then Deane is your man. But I drive the streets of the county frequently and only see a police car when it is rushing to a call. My opinion based on inside observations, as long as Deane remains the C.O.P. you need additional law enforcement. That will not happen with Glen Hill. I suggest if a candidate for Sheriff presents you with a platform that includes additional street presence and enforcement, you should consider it a vote for your safety. Don’t fall for the “duplication of services” garbage that Deane will feed you when he supports Hill in the upcoming election. His support is simple……..he is “protecting his turf.”

When our previous Sheriff was increasing the involvement of his street deputies in routine traffic enforcement, county park security checks, and back-up for county police officers, Charlie Deane became angry. Instead of embracing these efforts as help for a police department which struggled just to keep up with calls for service, the Chief publicly addressed the Sheriff’s Office efforts as, “duplication of services.” But within the department he was directing police supervisors to make sure they “protected police turf” by keeping deputies away from police calls and county parks. As a police supervisor for Charlie Deane I only wanted more patrol officers to keep from drowning from the demand for police response(s). I welcomed the involvement of the Sheriff’s Office.

Many do not know that it was Charlie Deane who encouraged Glen Hill to run for Sheriff during the last election. It was a classic power play move on Deane’s part to rid the county of a law enforcement official who refused to answer to him.

I like Glen Hill. I found him to be very helpful while conducting investigations involving the county jail. But I never thought he would be an effective elected offical. To point to how much Charlie Deane influences policy over Glen Hill, you only need to count the number of staff members appointed to the Sheriff’s Office coming directly from Charlie Deane’s staff.

Collectively, their first order of business after the election, was to have radar units collected from deputies, and memorandums issued which ended the involvement of increased enforcement and protection. This doesn’t sound like progress to me. The only achievement this action created was to give the Chief of Police the absolute power he craved.

I have worked with Mike Messier. I find him to be a very fair and smart person when dealing with internal issues. His past decisions inside the Sheriff’s Office as the Chief Deputy have shown he posesses the common sense necessary to deal with other agencies at both local and state levels. Under his direction deputies had few complaints, and all the deputies I know who are currently in the Sheriff’s Office support him.

I would love to see our current Sheriff debate Mike Messier. It would leave voters with no doubt making him Sheriff would improve law enforcement in Prince William. The influence that Charlie Deane has on the Sheriff’s Office has to be broken. I have heard Charlie Deane say, “I make decisions based on the potential headlines they create.” Based on the current morale and retention problems he has this statement does not include right & wrong and a sense of fair play. The staff of the Sheriff’s Office has had too much exposure to “fire first, ask questions later” mentality of our current Chief.

For Glen Hill’s lack of proactive measures on the street, and keeping a troubled Police Chief happy, he should expect to lose his current position. Prince William needs deputies helping an understaffed and inexperienced police presence on the street. This will never be achieved with our current Police Chief or Sheriff.

Disclosure: I do not currently hold a law enforcement position, nor desire it.

Good Time Charlie

More so than anyone in alot of years, Glen Hill has restored my faith in the political system. We CAN have good government in Prince William if we just had more officeholders like Glen Hill.

Glen Hill IS supporting a Republican candidate for Clerk of the Court — Lucy Beauchamp. Her Republican credentials have been unquestioned for years. She would be running still as a Republican, but she was not the chosen candidate of the crooked Kopko/Gill club, so as they did to Julie Lucas, they changed the rules to “fix” the nomination for their hand-picked choice, McQuigg.

You see, that was the payoff. Fix the rules to make Michelle McQuigg the nominee, and in exchange she would participate in the “fix” to get Gill the nomination in the 51st.

Glen Hill and Lucy Beauchamp just want to serve the citizens honorably and build the Republican Party, not blow it to pieces. Neither of them care to participate in the deceit and lies that has become so commonplace among the PWCRC leadership.

Glen Hill is a man of honor, integrity, and he is loyal (yes loyal to the local GOP as well…just not it’s current leadership). If we drive him out too with this crazy, crooked insanity that passes for local party business, then we as Republicans will have nothing left but a pile of rubble and lots of Dems running Prince William County again.