<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/2.2.3" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Exposing More Lies</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3</generator>

	<item>
		<title>By: OneTimeDeputy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-16714</link>
		<dc:creator>OneTimeDeputy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-16714</guid>
		<description>Wow.  First time ever to this site.  I will just say that I know all the parties being discussed here. (Hill, Collier, Messier and Stroffregen) I've known all of them a lot of years.  Mike Messier started out honest if not a little naive.  Stroffregen started out to be a very good Sheriff but this deteriorated quickly with the  power.  By the time it was all said and done the vast majority of PWC Sheriff employees didn't even want to come to work.  This is no loger true with Hill and Collier in there.    This NR poster is so full of himself and has no facts to back up his assertions.  And the salary of the Sheriff is public info. Look it up and you'll see how wrong you are.
The damage done by the Stroffregen admin has taken a long time to fix with the sold badges being one of the worse messes to fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  First time ever to this site.  I will just say that I know all the parties being discussed here. (Hill, Collier, Messier and Stroffregen) I&#8217;ve known all of them a lot of years.  Mike Messier started out honest if not a little naive.  Stroffregen started out to be a very good Sheriff but this deteriorated quickly with the  power.  By the time it was all said and done the vast majority of PWC Sheriff employees didn&#8217;t even want to come to work.  This is no loger true with Hill and Collier in there.    This NR poster is so full of himself and has no facts to back up his assertions.  And the salary of the Sheriff is public info. Look it up and you&#8217;ll see how wrong you are.<br />
The damage done by the Stroffregen admin has taken a long time to fix with the sold badges being one of the worse messes to fix.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Super Trooper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13584</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13584</guid>
		<description>NP NP look face reality if a stranger told you the Messier  stoffy story with the fact that Messier was this very innocent poor man,you wouldnt buy that crap either, and you know it if not your just not that smart ooohhh maybe retarded.

But i am sure you have no connections to Messier and that he is very honest and under his administration all will be roses and of course no untrained stupid reserve deputys making the trained one look stupid again.

NP you are just pathedic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NP NP look face reality if a stranger told you the Messier  stoffy story with the fact that Messier was this very innocent poor man,you wouldnt buy that crap either, and you know it if not your just not that smart ooohhh maybe retarded.</p>
<p>But i am sure you have no connections to Messier and that he is very honest and under his administration all will be roses and of course no untrained stupid reserve deputys making the trained one look stupid again.</p>
<p>NP you are just pathedic.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13571</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13571</guid>
		<description>TO JasonCW-

I looked at those reports too in May, and you are correct. None of this stuff is hard to get - facts I mean. I still am surprised at how some of these people think we are so stupid ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO JasonCW-</p>
<p>I looked at those reports too in May, and you are correct. None of this stuff is hard to get - facts I mean. I still am surprised at how some of these people think we are so stupid &#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13570</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13570</guid>
		<description>TO NR :
I am sensing the same desperation I read in IP's stuff just prior to his detonation.  It is Ok to have an opinion, but the rules for that is we all get one too. I would expect better from a loyal county employee( or team of them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO NR :<br />
I am sensing the same desperation I read in IP&#8217;s stuff just prior to his detonation.  It is Ok to have an opinion, but the rules for that is we all get one too. I would expect better from a loyal county employee( or team of them).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JasonCW</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13569</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13569</guid>
		<description>Thanks - actually, if you would take the time to go to the elections office in Manassas, and ask to see the reports , they will show them to you - no charge. Go and look at Messier's and look at the first one in 2004, through now and Stofferegen's contributions add up to over $4,000 in cash - the largest from any single contributor. The next closest two were Reserve Deputies, and they drop off form their.

Of course, these reports and their content are assumed to be the truth because the candidate or their treasurer affirms they are - Hill is the only candidate who has actually signed the forms himself, the other two have used their wives to sign - clears the way for plausable deniability...

So, who's head is where now ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks - actually, if you would take the time to go to the elections office in Manassas, and ask to see the reports , they will show them to you - no charge. Go and look at Messier&#8217;s and look at the first one in 2004, through now and Stofferegen&#8217;s contributions add up to over $4,000 in cash - the largest from any single contributor. The next closest two were Reserve Deputies, and they drop off form their.</p>
<p>Of course, these reports and their content are assumed to be the truth because the candidate or their treasurer affirms they are - Hill is the only candidate who has actually signed the forms himself, the other two have used their wives to sign - clears the way for plausable deniability&#8230;</p>
<p>So, who&#8217;s head is where now ???</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13516</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 05:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13516</guid>
		<description>NR -- Don't Call Super Trooper names.  He speaks the truth.  Super Trooper is awesome.  Please...don't attack JasonCW either.  He comes on here and commentates in good faith...has good things to say....what this site is all about.

You have no idea (I hope you don't) of all the laws that were broken under the old Messier/Stoffregan regime.  Kind of weird he's running...why open yourself to all those investigations?

I can't believe there is even a debate here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NR &#8212; Don&#8217;t Call Super Trooper names.  He speaks the truth.  Super Trooper is awesome.  Please&#8230;don&#8217;t attack JasonCW either.  He comes on here and commentates in good faith&#8230;has good things to say&#8230;.what this site is all about.</p>
<p>You have no idea (I hope you don&#8217;t) of all the laws that were broken under the old Messier/Stoffregan regime.  Kind of weird he&#8217;s running&#8230;why open yourself to all those investigations?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe there is even a debate here.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Super Trooper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13502</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13502</guid>
		<description>NP you have become the new IP. Of course Stoffy is endorsing the Messss

as he knows were the bodies are buried. Anyone with half a brain would not endorse the chief deputy of a covicted criminail.

Wow bet that doesnt matter to you at all.   Again get a life .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NP you have become the new IP. Of course Stoffy is endorsing the Messss</p>
<p>as he knows were the bodies are buried. Anyone with half a brain would not endorse the chief deputy of a covicted criminail.</p>
<p>Wow bet that doesnt matter to you at all.   Again get a life .</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13499</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13499</guid>
		<description>And btw NR, you might want to get your facts straight before you rudely suggest someone get their head out of their ass...or someone might just suggest the same thing of you.  Oh, what the heck..."get your head out of your ass" (YOUR words).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And btw NR, you might want to get your facts straight before you rudely suggest someone get their head out of their ass&#8230;or someone might just suggest the same thing of you.  Oh, what the heck&#8230;&#8221;get your head out of your ass&#8221; (YOUR words).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13497</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13497</guid>
		<description>"I heard that Lee turned over a small amount of
funds he had left from his campaign and that was it."

Well NR, then that was a considerable contribution!  You DO realize that Stoffregen had $500,000 in his campaign coffer, largely from the sale of deputy badges, do you not?  He only spent about half of that on his last campaign.  Right rumor ("I heard"), wrong facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I heard that Lee turned over a small amount of<br />
funds he had left from his campaign and that was it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well NR, then that was a considerable contribution!  You DO realize that Stoffregen had $500,000 in his campaign coffer, largely from the sale of deputy badges, do you not?  He only spent about half of that on his last campaign.  Right rumor (&#8221;I heard&#8221;), wrong facts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: vote4hill</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13496</link>
		<dc:creator>vote4hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13496</guid>
		<description>NR,

Have you personally seen the report of what Stoffy actually contributed to Messier's campaign?...Doubt it!  This is and has been your mode through out  this blog.  You profess to know so much but you have no clue about anything concerning this race.  I have personally asked you several questions concerning your posts and you have yet to reply to me.  One can only assume you have absolutely nothing to back your statements.  If you want to blog with everyone here, my advice is you take some lessons from someone willing to deal with you.  Doubt that you will find many here.  This blog is above your level of intelligence.  Stop talking in circles and blog with us concerning the race and why you think your guy is the best for the office.  It really is not that difficult.


VOTE FOR HILL JUNE 12</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NR,</p>
<p>Have you personally seen the report of what Stoffy actually contributed to Messier&#8217;s campaign?&#8230;Doubt it!  This is and has been your mode through out  this blog.  You profess to know so much but you have no clue about anything concerning this race.  I have personally asked you several questions concerning your posts and you have yet to reply to me.  One can only assume you have absolutely nothing to back your statements.  If you want to blog with everyone here, my advice is you take some lessons from someone willing to deal with you.  Doubt that you will find many here.  This blog is above your level of intelligence.  Stop talking in circles and blog with us concerning the race and why you think your guy is the best for the office.  It really is not that difficult.</p>
<p>VOTE FOR HILL JUNE 12</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Naked Republican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13495</link>
		<dc:creator>Naked Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13495</guid>
		<description>Again, Super Pooper, go to school!  That Stoffregen has given
Messier a large contribution is a total and absolute lie,
JasonCW.  I heard that Lee turned over a small amount of
funds he had left from his campaign and that was it.  Again,
JasonCW, get your head out of your ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, Super Pooper, go to school!  That Stoffregen has given<br />
Messier a large contribution is a total and absolute lie,<br />
JasonCW.  I heard that Lee turned over a small amount of<br />
funds he had left from his campaign and that was it.  Again,<br />
JasonCW, get your head out of your ass.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Super Trooper</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13494</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13494</guid>
		<description>NP you have become the new IP. Of course Stoffy is endorsing the Messss

as he knows were the bodies are buried. Anyone with half a brain would not endorse the chief deputy of a convicted criminal.

Wow bet that doesn’t matter to you at all.   Again get a life .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NP you have become the new IP. Of course Stoffy is endorsing the Messss</p>
<p>as he knows were the bodies are buried. Anyone with half a brain would not endorse the chief deputy of a convicted criminal.</p>
<p>Wow bet that doesn’t matter to you at all.   Again get a life .</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Naked Republican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13493</link>
		<dc:creator>Naked Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13493</guid>
		<description>Sorry, then Hill is sure to lose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, then Hill is sure to lose!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JasonCW</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13485</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13485</guid>
		<description>Campaign contribution SBE reports puts Stofferegn as Messier's biggest cash contributor. Lee has also sent letter to people [clients] endorsing Messier, and was seen in Dumfries talking him up - if that ain't endorsing what is?
All of Fotis' money has come from out of state - gun runners and the like. He probably has a half dozen people who actually live in the county who might vote for him, unless of course they read this blog and that nit-wit who was hawking him.
So NP, Anonymus, and what ever name Ted has snuck back in under can dribble all you want - honesty should win in all elections</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Campaign contribution SBE reports puts Stofferegn as Messier&#8217;s biggest cash contributor. Lee has also sent letter to people [clients] endorsing Messier, and was seen in Dumfries talking him up - if that ain&#8217;t endorsing what is?<br />
All of Fotis&#8217; money has come from out of state - gun runners and the like. He probably has a half dozen people who actually live in the county who might vote for him, unless of course they read this blog and that nit-wit who was hawking him.<br />
So NP, Anonymus, and what ever name Ted has snuck back in under can dribble all you want - honesty should win in all elections</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Naked Republican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13476</link>
		<dc:creator>Naked Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13476</guid>
		<description>JasonCW, here's ONE of Hill's big lies:  in his flier I just rec'd,
he states that Messier is being endorsed by Stoffregen..that is
so desperate, it's not even funny.  Stoffy is still in the position
to have benefitted Messier a lot, but Messier has chosen to
not go there.  Period.  If Hill means that because Stoffy is not
endorsing him then he MUST be endorsing Messier!  That is
Hill's logic.  For all we know, Stoffregen may be endorsing
Fotis.  Who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JasonCW, here&#8217;s ONE of Hill&#8217;s big lies:  in his flier I just rec&#8217;d,<br />
he states that Messier is being endorsed by Stoffregen..that is<br />
so desperate, it&#8217;s not even funny.  Stoffy is still in the position<br />
to have benefitted Messier a lot, but Messier has chosen to<br />
not go there.  Period.  If Hill means that because Stoffy is not<br />
endorsing him then he MUST be endorsing Messier!  That is<br />
Hill&#8217;s logic.  For all we know, Stoffregen may be endorsing<br />
Fotis.  Who cares?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13457</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 02:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13457</guid>
		<description>I think it's going to be more like 60% Hill with the other two in a race for the basement.  Actually, I'm inclined to predict that Fotis will win that race, and come in dead last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s going to be more like 60% Hill with the other two in a race for the basement.  Actually, I&#8217;m inclined to predict that Fotis will win that race, and come in dead last.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JasonCW</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13456</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 02:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13456</guid>
		<description>Thanks for you assessment - A two way race is hard enough, but this one - wow !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for you assessment - A two way race is hard enough, but this one - wow !</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13454</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 02:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13454</guid>
		<description>I'm not getting any polling data on this race, but so far it looks like it's going to be a pretty strong Hill win.  My best guess is that Hill will pull in about 50% and Messier will come in with about 40%, followed by Fotis at 10%.

I could be quite bit off on this, as all of the campaigns are running their own operations and not pulling in a lot of support from the county committee.  Usually when they do my intel gets a lot better, since I'll hear more about what's going on.  I pretty much have no inside view of any of the campaigns at this point, which makes it pretty hard for me to reliably predict what's happening.

One things that seems interesting is that the battleground seems to be in the western side of the county, as there's a lot of focus there.  I think Glen is pretty strong on the eastern side, and if it's been neglected somewhat by the other candidates it could be a landslide for Hill.  If Hill pulls 70-80% in Woodbridge, Occoquan, Coles and Dumfries, it's all over, as he will pull at least 40% or so in the western districts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not getting any polling data on this race, but so far it looks like it&#8217;s going to be a pretty strong Hill win.  My best guess is that Hill will pull in about 50% and Messier will come in with about 40%, followed by Fotis at 10%.</p>
<p>I could be quite bit off on this, as all of the campaigns are running their own operations and not pulling in a lot of support from the county committee.  Usually when they do my intel gets a lot better, since I&#8217;ll hear more about what&#8217;s going on.  I pretty much have no inside view of any of the campaigns at this point, which makes it pretty hard for me to reliably predict what&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>One things that seems interesting is that the battleground seems to be in the western side of the county, as there&#8217;s a lot of focus there.  I think Glen is pretty strong on the eastern side, and if it&#8217;s been neglected somewhat by the other candidates it could be a landslide for Hill.  If Hill pulls 70-80% in Woodbridge, Occoquan, Coles and Dumfries, it&#8217;s all over, as he will pull at least 40% or so in the western districts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JasonCW</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13452</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 02:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13452</guid>
		<description>I have read and re-read all of these posts. What disturbs me most is not the obvious lies and spins, but comments from Anonymous about his experience with Charlie Deane. Seems like he is sincere. 

He also seems to relate to Messier, calling him the unwitting “victim” [my words] of Stofferegen. No doubt Stoffy used and abuse him, but he did have a choice – he could have honored his oath of office ( I assume he took one as most cops must do)  and did the right thing which was to expose the thief. He chose to be less of a man and cower to the almighty “man in charge”. 

The empathy shown has a clear root – if Anonymous was indeed one of Deane’s boys, he also chose to not expose him but cower until retirement. Only now, under cover of a blog, is he speaking of things long past that should have been exposed to the public.  What hold remains on him that he is unwilling to challenge the wrongs he speaks of?  I worry that there are no warriors left to do the right thing. Anonymous, you do have a choice- make the right one….Bring the issues you seem to carry heavily out to the BOCS or the County Manager - 

I disagree with old good time Charlie about Hill – I see nothing to suggest Hill is controlled by anybody other than the voters – Deane cannot fire him, or can anybody else, really. Seems like what some call projection – He is projecting what he perceives as the evils of Deane onto Hill because they are both the man in charge. Hill may make a lot of money – he is an executive and executives often get paid well – why make that an issue? From what I see, Hill hasn’t lied yet – the others have done nothing but lie. He should be re-elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read and re-read all of these posts. What disturbs me most is not the obvious lies and spins, but comments from Anonymous about his experience with Charlie Deane. Seems like he is sincere. </p>
<p>He also seems to relate to Messier, calling him the unwitting “victim” [my words] of Stofferegen. No doubt Stoffy used and abuse him, but he did have a choice – he could have honored his oath of office ( I assume he took one as most cops must do)  and did the right thing which was to expose the thief. He chose to be less of a man and cower to the almighty “man in charge”. </p>
<p>The empathy shown has a clear root – if Anonymous was indeed one of Deane’s boys, he also chose to not expose him but cower until retirement. Only now, under cover of a blog, is he speaking of things long past that should have been exposed to the public.  What hold remains on him that he is unwilling to challenge the wrongs he speaks of?  I worry that there are no warriors left to do the right thing. Anonymous, you do have a choice- make the right one….Bring the issues you seem to carry heavily out to the BOCS or the County Manager - </p>
<p>I disagree with old good time Charlie about Hill – I see nothing to suggest Hill is controlled by anybody other than the voters – Deane cannot fire him, or can anybody else, really. Seems like what some call projection – He is projecting what he perceives as the evils of Deane onto Hill because they are both the man in charge. Hill may make a lot of money – he is an executive and executives often get paid well – why make that an issue? From what I see, Hill hasn’t lied yet – the others have done nothing but lie. He should be re-elected.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JasonCW</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13449</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/08/exposing-more-lies/#comment-13449</guid>
		<description>Looks like this toad is just baiting you Greg. How does it look for Hill ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like this toad is just baiting you Greg. How does it look for Hill ??</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

