Smiling as I write….Jonathan, you eat him up sooooooo bad, you oughta be ashamed of yourself for having no mercy on the mentally handicapped!! :)

Massachusetts is a very manly state, especially Provincetown on Cape Cod. I am sure that you and the object of your man-crush could have a wonderful celebration in Provincetown.

What we all want now is to expose the truth and get some heads on platters. We’re pulling in the lawyers (smart ones with real practices…not the stuff you piddle around in) and we’re coming to get you and Kopko.

“”"And BTW, isn’t it interesting that Julie’s supporters choose a remedy — throwing out the precincts (assuming it is 2, not three) — that would disenfranchise whole precinct of voters. “”"

It is not what we choose, it is what the RPV chooses. When there are overvotes in a precinct that means the people running the voting are not restricting access to ballots and ballot boxes. Because the access to ballots and ballot boxes is not restricted the whole count in that precinct is corrupted.

“”"Obviously, the less radical solution — and one which, not coincidentally, would still result in a Lucas loss — is to presume that all overvotes were Gill votes, and disallow them. The problem with that solution (for the Lucas people) is that it means that Gill still wins.”"”

All overvotes are invalid votes, but not all invalid votes are overvotes. An overvote only occurs when the number of invalid votes is larger than the number of people who go home without voting.

No one knows how many invalid votes there were due to lack of control of access to ballots and ballot boxes. Merely deducting the number of overvotes doesn’t solve the problem.

The problem is the lack of control of access to ballots and the ballot boxes in those two precincts. This lack of control led to overvotes and made the counts in those precincts unreliable.

“”"For all we know, those are people who simply voted in the wrong precincts.”"”

And how, pray tell, could people have voted in the wrong precinct if the people running the convention had been controlling access to ballots and ballot boxes? What else were delegate wannabes doing besides voting in the wrong precincts?

“”"That is a possibility that no one here seems to have considered, probably because it doesn’t jibe with the meme that the nomination was “stolen from” Lucas.”"”

The nomination was stolen because Gill’s employee Kopko and Gill’s kickoff campaign speaker McQuigg refuse to follow RPV procedures. If they had followed those procedures Julie would have won.

“”"The problem is that Lucas lost, fair and square.”"”
No, Faisal lost. The problem is that Faisal’s employee Kopko and endorser McQuigg are stealing the election for Faisal by violating RPV rules.

“”"She decided at the last minute,”"”

Says who? She may have been intending to run for months. You don’t know.

“”"probably at the urging of a bunch of tax advocates,”"”

Do you mean the people who want to institute Sharia law in the USA and impose a dhimmi tax on Christians and Jews? People like Gill’s law and lobbying partner Asim Ghafoor? Those kinds of tax advocates are supporting Faisal.

“”"She made a good run at it, one that ultimately fell short.”"”

One that ultimately succeeded but was stolen from her by Kopko and McQuigg’s violation of RPV rules, and by their lack of control of access to ballots and ballot boxes in the first place.

“”"What makes you people think she can win?”"”

The question is, what makes us realize that she can do better than Faisal Gill? Three words: “Google Faisal Gill.”

“”"The virulence of your attacks on Faisal Gill and his supporters virtually guarantee that a large number of them would never support Lucas if she were to somehow reverse the results of the convention.”"”

Hold on, Jim. I thought they took a pledge to support the nominee. Well, if the nominee is Julie will they violate their pledge to support her?

“”"But you would rather see no Republican win than have a Conservative like Gill carry the GOP nomination.”"”

You have it backwards, son. Nominating Faisal Gill ensures that no Republican will win in HOD-51.

“”"Not ONE of you people has ever attacked Gill on policy.”"”

Not ONE of us gives a flying whatoosie what platitudes Gill mouths. I can train any cretin to mouth the right words. The problem is Gill’s actions, especially his having served as chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi’s American Muslim Council.

“”"That speaks volumes about your commitment to Republican principles,”"”

Was Gill’s boss/client Abdurahman Alamoudi a Republican? Alamoudi gave to Hillary, Cynthia McKinney, David Bonior, Dennis Kucinich and Rep. James P. Moran, Jr. as well as to President Bush.

The question is what kind of commitment Faisal Gill had to Republican principles when he was the chief lobbyist for a terrorist’s organization, the American Muslim Council.

“”"as well as the commitment implied by the pledge to support all of the GOP’s nominees in the ensuing election.”"”

Jim, you are getting confused again. You just stated that Julie cannot win because Gill’s people will violate their pledge to support the winner of the HOD-51 nomination, Julie Lucas. That means Gill’s people intend to violate the very pledge that you speak of.

For all we know, those are people who simply voted in the wrong precincts. That is a possibility that no one here seems to have considered, probably because it doesn’t jibe with the meme that the nomination was “stolen from” Lucas.

The problem is that Lucas lost, fair and square. She decided at the last minute, probably at the urging of a bunch of tax advocates, to jump in the race. She made a good run at it, one that ultimately fell short.

What makes you people think she can win? The virulence of your attacks on Faisal Gill and his supporters virtually guarantee that a large number of them would never support Lucas if she were to somehow reverse the results of the convention. But you would rather see no Republican win than have a Conservative like Gill carry the GOP nomination. Not ONE of you people has ever attacked Gill on policy. That speaks volumes about your commitment to Republican principles, as well as the commitment implied by the pledge to support all of the GOP’s nominees in the ensuing election.

The notion that either had to be “recruited” is obviously ridiculous.

As for those “many conservatives [who] have already vowed not to vote for Stewart, Gill, McQuigg, or May,” it is indeed fascinating that so few have the courage to affiliate their names with their reported intentions.

And John Light is simply despicable, a living [purportedly] Republican embodiment of the vitality of the Freudian practice of politics.

The Elections committee REPORTED 3 precincts overvoted…
- Civic Center
- Penn
- Lake Ridge

Civic Center was reported to be overvoted by 2. This is because the Elections Committee counted 1 person in the W - Z section of the alphabet. The tally sheet clearly shows, by name, 3 people credentialed in Civic Center in the W-Z category, not 1.

Therefore, a math error has shown that in fact, Civic Center had one person who was credentialed to vote, but chose not to vote (i.e. an undervote of 1), which is OK.

Therefore, as it stands now, the following precincts are overvoted…
- Penn
- Lake Ridge

Now, what to do? RPV recommends that overvoted precincts be thrown out.

If you throw out Penn and Lake Ridge - Julie Wins

That’s the deal.

Either you guys are telling the truth or you botched the nomination — case closed. Otherwise this poorly run convention will rip the party apart until well after November (like we all didn’t see that coming long before this convention even took place).

Why would anyone be afraid of the truth if they’ve done nothing wrong? Remember, the cover-up is always worse than the offense as far as consequences.

There is nothing “unifying” about having opponents come face to face and square off. It is a relatively politely waged war. And those willing to employ guerilla tactics always win out.

The 11th District Committee is NOT a committee of one. Of note is that MR. KOPKO is also a voting member of the 11CD, and so are 3 other known Gill supporters. Seems like the Gill team is well represented there too. Not to mention that Mr. Kopko alone is currently the sole decider of the appeal… If everyone is so sure that everything is “just fine”, Kopko should be pressured to make a prompt decision so that it can go up the 11CD for a fair hearing there.

And the “illegal meeting”… I made a few phone calls and found out the REAL deal was actually a request by the Chairman to the rest of the 11CD to postpone their 6/11 meeting until 6/14 to allow a few more days for the appeal process to move forward so that they could deal with it promptly and still allow time, before the certification deadline to the SBE, for a further appeal up to RPV if needed. While most of the 11CD members didn’t have a problem with it, a couple Gill supporters did, so they refused to allow the postponement and required the Chairman to reissue a new call for a meeting which requires 7 days notice. So much for the illegal meeting accusation…

Oh, and the whole “conflict of interest” assertions are baloney. If anyone looks, they can see that Stoeckel had a long-term business relationship with Lucas (3 or 4 yrs.) and had nothing to do with the 51st HOD convention at all, except that Kopko didn’t like the fact she was watching. In reality, the 11CD Chair has no control in the appeal process other than to attempt to deal with it in a timely manner (which was thwarted) and only has one vote out of 12. Anyone see the difference here?

And Mr. Young, as an attorney, i am surprised you would post such slanderous accusations without at least attempting to verify their accuracy. So far, it’s been proven that the “hit pieces” didn’t come from this woman and the “illegal meeting” is bogus… the rest is simply whining… nothing unusual, improper, or unwarranted.

As a party stalwart i find this unwarranted attack infuriating and embarrassing to the party. Mr. Kopko should be ashamed of himself.

Here are the facts:

At minimum 75% of the PWCRC want KOPKO removed from leadership.

In November, many conservatives have already vowed not to vote for Stewart, Gill, McQuigg, or May. I suspect Covington will now be added to the list and with a bit of luck Del. Lingamfelter will join them.

Moderate Republican’s WILL vote, it just won’t be for Gill, Stewart, McQuigg or May!

What is the false police report thing? This is the first time I’ve heard of it.

Kopko needs to go immediately. Unfortunately the void at the top of RPV may delay the inevitable.

Is his business called “Tom Kopko” or “Thomas A. Kopko”? If not, what is the name?

I can’t find any payments to it, save for Faisal Gill’s.