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On The Suffering Of Illegal Aliens

By Greg L | 29 June 2007 | Illegal Aliens, Prince William County | 32 Comments

When we’ve talked about the sanctuary policies and their impact on public safety, we usually talk about Virginia Beach and the horrible tragedy that happened there earlier this year. In doing so, we ignore a more local tragedy in which four people died and eleven others were injured, although having deaths among what one would reasonably suspect to be illegal aliens doesn’t quite carry the emotional impact of sixteen and seventeen year old Caucasian girls. Ignoring the carnage that illegal aliens inflict on themselves and other members of their community is a disservice, and conveniently hides how just as they wreak havoc on America and Americans, they are themselves exploited and victims in this national tragedy to the same, or perhaps greater degree than we.

In the early morning of November 4th, 2006 seven persons piled into a Dodge Intrepid and left a Hispanic bar called Confetty’s near Manassas Park, on their way to Herndon. Alcohol, speed and bad judgment caused this car to slam into a Mustang pulling out of a driveway on Route 28 in Yorkshire at about 80 MPH. The Intrepid crossed the road and slammed into a Mercedes head-on. Of the seven persons in the Intrepid, four died including the driver, 23-year-old Carlos Martinez, who had no drivers license. Another of the fatalities was identified as a Honduran national. Although Prince William County Police were at the time operating under official policies that steadfastly ignored a persons legal status whenever possible (which continues to this day), every indication is that this driver was an illegal alien.

This person lived in Fairfax County, got drunk in Manassas Park, and killed himself and half of his passengers in Prince William County. That should definitely reinforce how important it is for us to ensure that sanctuary areas exist nowhere, and how important it is for citizens in jurisdictions surrounding Prince William County to weigh in on the debate here. What happens in Fairfax, Manassas, Manassas Park, or Prince William impacts every other and surrounding jurisdiction. There is no safe haven from the effects of illegal aliens in any of our communities.

More significantly, this demonstrates how this current situation which brings so many illegal aliens into our communities impacts those illegal aliens in ways that we citizens might not understand, or be somewhat reluctant to acknowledge if we do. These illegals are the exploited indentured servants of the twenty-first century, encouraged to leave their families, their rich cultures, and their beautiful communities in order to come to America and be the veritable slaves that landscape our yards, build our homes, and run our cash registers all so business owners can improve their profit margins. They travel hundreds of not thousands of miles to come here, and a not so insignificant number of them perish in the process, only to lead miserable lives waiting for a job on a street corner in Herndon, or perhaps a 7-11 on Coverstone Drive. Disconnected from their culture, their families and their sense of place they inflict drunken carnage on our roads, abuse our children, and otherwise disdain our laws and our culture. We share a strange victimhood, the illegal aliens and the citizens who suffer their presence, caused by conditions that both sides should rightly view as intolerable.

Four presumed illegal aliens died that night. Other injured victims included American citizens. On that evening, we both suffered the consequences of this deplorable situation that brings illegal aliens here to destroy our culture and our society and rips them from the culture and society that makes them responsible citizens in their home countries. If you care for them as you care for your fellow citizen, you’ll do everything you can to encourage them to return to their native land and remove the incentives that cause them to come here to be our modern-day exploited class.

We must end this. We must end sanctuary policies, and we must stop those companies that think that a better bottom line is worth destroying our country for. The first step is passing Supervisor Stirrup’s proposed resolution in Prince William County which will reduce the incentives for illegal aliens to be among us.



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32 Comments

  1. The Patriot said on 30 Jun 2007 at 7:29 am:
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    “Disconnected from their culture, their families and their sense of place they inflict drunken carnage on our roads, abuse our children, and otherwise disdain our laws and our culture.”

    I disagree with this statement. This is a cop out! Regardless of their situation, it was their choice to begin with to come here illegally and leave their families. Additionally, just because one is depressed or angry does not give him/her the right to make bad decisions and act upon them. Furthermore, there are plenty of people that left the “horrid” economic conditions of their homelands and came to the U.S. LEGALLY. There is no excuse. They know that they have a choice before they come here…follow the LEGAL route….or enter illegally.

  2. citizenofmanassas said on 30 Jun 2007 at 9:18 am:
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    I agree Patriot. Illegals now exactly what they are doing, and still do it. That is what is most aggravating about this issue. The pro illegal folks always play up the pity angle. They never focus on the negative aspect of illegal aliens. They also must hold illegal aliens to a lower standard since they never seem to be outraged over the criminal activities of them, yet let an illegal alien get attacked or robbed, and the sympathy tears start to flow for that poor hard working person.

  3. The Patriot said on 30 Jun 2007 at 9:29 am:
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    Shall we begin to “feel sorry” for legal U.S. Citizens that break in and enter, steal social security numbers, forge documents, steal benefits that they are not entitled to, etc.? If a legal U.S. Citizen did the above, he/she would be thrown in jail for quite a while. What about them?

  4. silverfox said on 30 Jun 2007 at 10:15 am:
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    As reported by the Rocky Mountain News, 6/15/07, U.S. House of Representatives voted 234-189 to withhold federal emergency funding from “sanctuary cities” that protect illegal aliens. Rep. Tom Tancredo sponsored this measure. This should deter the attractiveness to make harboring towns their homes. We must work to get information out there and do what we can to support our local HSM.

  5. disgusted LEGAL citizen said on 30 Jun 2007 at 1:12 pm:
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    Dealing with the Sanctuary issue is important. However, there is a bigger immiment danger coming our way and I hope we have some STRATEGIC THINKERS out there among our elected officials who are taking action NOW to offer what little protection may be left to us. I’m talking about the full brunt of the impact coming our way, like a train wreck, that will hit every single community and municipality in the tax base for years to come. Could we please, FOR ONCE, get in front of the problem and see beyond the nose on our face??? Take a look at these two items from http://novabubblefallout.blogspot.com/index.html

    Finally, The Washington Post supplies a story on foreclosures on page A01. It’s by Kirstin Downey, of course.

    “‘We’re seeing an uptick, and it’s fairly dramatic. It appears to be accelerating, and we haven’t reached the peak,’ said John Rust, commissioner of accounts for the Fairfax County Circuit Court.”

    The trickle down effect for the neighbors . . .

    “If foreclosures multiply in a neighborhood, with lenders eager to dump properties for a quick sale, home prices can be depressed. The drop in prices can pull down tax assessments, giving local governments less money to pay for schools, police, parks and social services.”

    And the trickle down economy thing . . .

    “Five unrelated people are living in a house facing foreclosure in Manassas. One of the tenants, Cristian Mendes, from El Salvador, said that the owner, who lives in the house, is losing it to the bank because his boarders have lost their construction jobs and can no longer pay rent.”

    Here’s a new one. It seems that “everyone wants to live here” might not be ringing true:

    “Now many immigrants who bought homes in Herndon are walking away from the properties, said Miguel Martinez, a real estate agent with Prosperity Realty. He said the good-paying jobs they had in residential construction have disappeared, and they can’t make the payments any more. Many undocumented workers also fear anti-immigrant sentiments in Herndon, Martinez said, and worry that they or their relatives could be deported if arrested for other infractions.

    ‘Now everybody wants to leave Herndon,’ Martinez said.”

    AND HERE IS THE SECOND PART of the one-two punch that is pretty ominous…

    June 29 (Bloomberg) — Standard & Poor’s, Moody’s Investors Service and Fitch Ratings are masking burgeoning losses in the market for subprime mortgage bonds by failing to cut the credit ratings on about $200 billion of securities backed by home loans.
    . . .
    Downgrades by S&P, Moody’s and Fitch would force hundreds of investors to sell holdings, roiling the $800 billion market for securities backed by subprime mortgages and $1 trillion of collateralized debt obligations, the fastest growing part of the financial markets.

    “You’ll see massive losses from banks, insurance companies and pension managers,” said Joshua Rosner, a managing director at investment research firm Graham Fisher & Co. in New York and co-author of a study last month that said S&P, Moody’s and Fitch understate the risks of subprime mortgage bonds. “The longer they wait, the worse it’s going to be.”

  6. anonymous said on 30 Jun 2007 at 3:30 pm:
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    As I said before–this has to potential to be as big as the S&L mess in the 80s.

  7. anonymous said on 30 Jun 2007 at 3:38 pm:
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    My brother in law’s is a 20 year veteran of the Air Force currently serving in Iraq for 5 months and had his identity stolen by and distributed by at least 17 illegal aliens several years ago (fact established by the police). He was not vigilant checking his credit report regularly because of 12 hour shifts 6 days a week and a new family. He only found out after a lender started contacting him about back payments on a second mortgage taken out on a house he never bought. Someone managed to take his information, make fake documents and not only get an original mortgage but a second one and walk away with over $100,000 while abandoning the property. His credit is still wrecked and the are still trying to fix the whole thing.

  8. Bryanna said on 30 Jun 2007 at 5:43 pm:
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    Regarding the Board of County Supervisors, I want to make sure you all know about Chris Royse who is running in Woodbridge for supervisor.

    ROYSE wants changes in Woodbridge, while his opponent thinks everything is great just like it is. The Woodbridge area is like Manassas but we have an even bigger problem, the hospital emergency room is over run with uninsured immigrants that use it as a free clinic. As a tax paying, insured american, paying high premiums, I do not expect a member of my family to have to wait 6-8 hours in an emergency room in horrible pain for 6-8 hours to receive care, but they do every time.

    If you’re in Woodbridge and have a live threatening medical emergency, get in the car, drive into Fairfax, then call an ambulance!

    Tell your friends to volunteer, give money and vote for Chris Royse. www.chrisroyse.com

  9. park'd said on 30 Jun 2007 at 5:52 pm:
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    Disgusted Legal Citizen: Tell all the illegals leaving Herndon in fear to head on over to the park where we love anarchy and refuse to enforce the law while welcoming them all with open arms. Yipppeee.

  10. Barbara Cummings said on 30 Jun 2007 at 6:04 pm:
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    Another article in today’s Post. The sense of entitlement that many illegals have been trained to feel is apparent.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/29/AR2007062902301.html

  11. Bryanna said on 30 Jun 2007 at 6:05 pm:
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    Herndon and Woodbridge have common threads, Google Faisal Gill from Woodbridge and see who his comprade is in Herndon. Muslim’s shouldn’t be overlooked, they’re pro Sanctuary!!

    Check out the Herndon business man of the year. This is not just a problem with El Salvadoreans, Quatamalans, etc. it is also religious (Muslim Jihads), they’re better educated and trained to fly under the radar. Their plan is to chop our knees out from underneath America, then watch as as the illegals seize the moment to loot, steal or worse. Google The Islamic 20 Year Plan. It’ll make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.

    There is an Islamic Invasion happening right now in America.

  12. The Patriot said on 30 Jun 2007 at 6:41 pm:
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    All one has to do is look at what is happening in the UK. Political correctness allowed it to take root and now they are suffering the consequences.

  13. DLC said on 30 Jun 2007 at 8:37 pm:
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    park’d,

    you’re exactly right on your observation. Unless and until we have a concerted, unified approach — say — a multijurisdictional — crackdown on rolling up the Welcome Wagon that’s been operating in these parts for this entire decade, it’s gonna be HELL.

    And like Anonymous, I smell another Keating 5, SAvings and Loan BAIL OUT coming, but this time, there may not be anything left to do the bailing if ALL the major financials are gonna sustain “massive losses” as Bloomberg suggests — thats BANKS, INSURANCE AND, gasp, PENSIONS!!

    Is anyone awake at the wheel???

  14. Lafayette said on 30 Jun 2007 at 9:48 pm:
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    Bryanna
    We have the same problem at Prince William Hospital, I have always had to produce my insurance before being seen there. Last time I was there with my daughter, only myself and two other people had insurance, and I saw about 15 immigrants arrive that day.The waiting room is standing room only. I know a nurse in PW Hospital’s ER, she says the majority of patients(immigrants) have no insurance. We have a free clinic at the Health Dept. in Manassas, on the nights that it’s open immigrants start lining up as early as 11AM. I would say most people in line have on average 3 kids. These problems are prevalent through out the county. Woodbrige needs Chris Royse. I’m sure he wouldn’t have responded to Mr. Stirrup’s proposal the way Hilda Barg did, June 26th. I sure hope this proposal gets passed July 10th, we as a county need and it’s long overdue. Thank you Mr. Stirrup a million times.

  15. Gurduloo said on 1 Jul 2007 at 11:54 am:
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    Greg, what evidence do you have that they were illegals apart from the names?

  16. Greg L said on 1 Jul 2007 at 7:50 pm:
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    How many 23 year old men borrow a car and don’t have a drivers license? Although there’s no proof in this case, especially since the police department does everything they can do to NOT collect that information, this has every hallmark of an illegal alien.

  17. Gurduloo said on 1 Jul 2007 at 9:37 pm:
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    Is that it? He didn’t have a license? When you say “every hallmark” I would expect more than one fact.

  18. Greg L said on 1 Jul 2007 at 10:15 pm:
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    Stop in at Confetty’s some time. I pretty much guarantee that if you shout “Las migras!”, the place will empty out in a flash.

  19. justice said on 1 Jul 2007 at 11:08 pm:
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    Appears that gurduloo is one of those illegal alien apologists….Greg is right on..these people are ALL illegal aliens. We MUST take decisive action NOW and get them out of our county and country . They are lazy, trash our neighborhoods, commit crimes, drain our resources, expect handouts, and basically are parasites. I was in Walmart in Manassas (the one near I66) this past Saturday evening and was appalled by the trash and filth in the parking lot (and the stench). Once inside the store it was no better. Dirty, smelly. One alien almost ran my wife down with his shopping cart… he was arrogant and made no effort to apologize…it was all I could do not to deck him. WE Americans MUST end this madness NOW!

  20. AWCheney said on 1 Jul 2007 at 11:30 pm:
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    “Las migras!”

    “You migrate them?” OK Greg…what did you mean to say? I can see somebody going into Confetty’s and getting some very strange looks.

  21. Greg L said on 1 Jul 2007 at 11:31 pm:
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    The english equivalent, I am told, is “immigration enforcement”.

  22. AWCheney said on 1 Jul 2007 at 11:51 pm:
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    OK, try “Aplicación de la inmigración”…although I think that saying “Homeland Security,” or even “ICE,” would achieve the result you’re looking for. ;-)

  23. AWCheney said on 1 Jul 2007 at 11:56 pm:
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    Of course, “Las migras” could be a colloquialism with which I’m unfamiliar.

  24. anon said on 2 Jul 2007 at 1:00 am:
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    All you have to say is:

    !Inmigracion! !Inmigracion!

    (I don’t know how to add the accent or upside down exclamation points.)

    And yes, it does work. I saw it once in an Arizona orange grove. Like a ghost town within mere seconds.

  25. park'd said on 2 Jul 2007 at 7:18 am:
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    In this area they would just laugh at you if you yelled that. They know that no officials in PWC or the park are serious about enforcing EXISTING laws. Wild wild west, ’cause we’re living in the wild wild west…

  26. Lafayette said on 2 Jul 2007 at 4:33 pm:
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    WILD WILD WEST…is exactly how it seems around here. I say those very words myself, as I’m sure many others do too. I think there is a sense of lawlessness around these parts. (PWC & THE 2 CITIES)

  27. The Patriot said on 4 Jul 2007 at 8:54 am:
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    Attention…Attention….
    Start contacting our Reps. to oppose HR 1557: For the relief of Elvira Arellano.
    Here is the message I just sent:
    Congressman Davis,
    We the People would like for you to oppose H.R. 1557. Legal U.S. Citizens are fed up with our government trying to sneak in amnesty legislation for illegal aliens. If this were approved, it would send a message that law breakers get rewarded for their actions! Please oppose this bill and start the deportation process!

  28. Anonymous said on 5 Jul 2007 at 11:24 pm:
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    It’s not only that these people enter our country illegally and knowingly….it is the fact that they can come in here and manipulate our systems. For example…I am a hard working middle class citizen as well as most of my friends and family. I go from paycheck to paycheck tring to make ends meet and go without alot of the time so that my children’s needs and well being is taken care of. It angers me to no end when I am standing in the grocery store and see them wearing high dollar clothing and jewlery as well as their babies and children sporting the same items: gold necklaces, bracelets, etc. As they check out they are paying with 2-3 wic stubs and food stamps. As for a middle class person, it angers me to know that I am trying to stretch a dollar as far as it will go without tring to overdraw my account. As for a person like myself and others, to apply for some public assistance we would make too much money, buy not enough money. These illegals benefit from our systems, and this is serverely unfair to those of us hard working citizens who get up, go to work every day, work 40+ hours, go home and try to balance cleaning, cooking, taking care of the children, getting little sleep, and on and on and on, and all this time we have been legal, going to work everyday, paying tax dollars, filing taxes every year, and we still can not get assitance because we make too much, but how convenient it is for them to have the show of money and still pay with wic and food stamps!!!!

  29. Anonymous said on 5 Jul 2007 at 11:36 pm:
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    So you tell me who is really the one suffering.

    For all illegal aliens: There is a right way to enter this country. They should not have the opportunity to take away from our citizens (birth or naturalization) be it our houses, jobs, money, support systems, culture, etc. And they in no way should be protected by our own government. THERE IS A LEGAL AND RIGHT WAY TO ENTER THIS COUNTRY AND UNDER NO STIPULATION SHOULD THERE BE ANY EXCEPTIONS GRANTED TO ILLEGALS. WE NEED TO SEND THEM HOME!

  30. AWCheney said on 6 Jul 2007 at 10:25 am:
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    I would be willing to wager that we could find enough volunteers among the legal residents of this country to purchase a single one way ticket to Mexico in order to get these people back to their native country (let Mexico deal with them all from there, including the non-natives…serve them right). All the U.S. government (that, of course, translates to “taxpayers,” although they don’t like to think of it that way) will need to provide is the escort and handcuffs. That should be doable for them.

    If something like this is to be done, we better do it soon before they outnumber the legal residents. It’s probably getting close already.

  31. Bryanna said on 7 Jul 2007 at 9:35 pm:
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    The Patriot said on 30 Jun 2007 at 6:41 pm:
    “All one has to do is look at what is happening in the UK. Political correctness allowed it to take root and now they are suffering the consequences.”

    Patriot, you are right on regarding the infiltration of terrorism in the United Kingdom.

    It has become a Sanctuary of Terror and America is following right in their footsteps. America’s sensitivity training and political correctness is feeding right into the hands of the Islamic Terrorist movement.

    We are allowing Muslim Chaplains into our prison system who teach the Quran to illegal aliens while they’re incarcerated. The illegal alien is deported after serving their sentence only to return to America again as Muslims.

    We must insist on racial profiling to include immigrants who come here to seek religious freedom and then fail to comply with immigration laws.

  32. Anonymous said on 15 Nov 2007 at 7:47 pm:
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    All of you do not know what you are talking about! Look beyond your noses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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