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	<title>Comments on: McQuigg Responds on 51st District Convention</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/</link>
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		<title>By: Publicus</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-16426</link>
		<dc:creator>Publicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-16426</guid>
		<description>This convention was a SAD day for the Republican Party and for democracy in general.

It was crooked from the start being officiated by KOPKO -- a paid consultant to Gill and only degenrated further through a series of missteps ragning from incompotent (over-credentialing, over-voting and failiure to accurately acount the number of credentialed delegates per precinct) to outright crooked (Kopko's refusual to act on an obviously tainted election).

The net result is the nominaton of a candidate who is obviously unelectable.  So much so that this may be the only open Republican seat in the Commonwealth where there will be no serious attempt by the Republican Party of Virginia to hold it.

Gill never should have run.  

Our leaders never should have become his patsies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This convention was a SAD day for the Republican Party and for democracy in general.</p>
<p>It was crooked from the start being officiated by KOPKO &#8212; a paid consultant to Gill and only degenrated further through a series of missteps ragning from incompotent (over-credentialing, over-voting and failiure to accurately acount the number of credentialed delegates per precinct) to outright crooked (Kopko&#8217;s refusual to act on an obviously tainted election).</p>
<p>The net result is the nominaton of a candidate who is obviously unelectable.  So much so that this may be the only open Republican seat in the Commonwealth where there will be no serious attempt by the Republican Party of Virginia to hold it.</p>
<p>Gill never should have run.  </p>
<p>Our leaders never should have become his patsies.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15996</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15996</guid>
		<description>Sorry Michele, I just don't buy it.  The one positive outcome of this so-called convention, was giving voters a preview of the job you would do as Clerk of The Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Michele, I just don&#8217;t buy it.  The one positive outcome of this so-called convention, was giving voters a preview of the job you would do as Clerk of The Court.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15299</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15299</guid>
		<description>We all know that Michele is far from being the sharpest knife in the drawer and could not possibly be expected to do much of anything correctly with the exception of possibly making it to the bathroom in time...although that would be a challenge for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know that Michele is far from being the sharpest knife in the drawer and could not possibly be expected to do much of anything correctly with the exception of possibly making it to the bathroom in time&#8230;although that would be a challenge for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15282</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15282</guid>
		<description>Michelle, do you have copies of all the delegate forms submitted to credentials?  If so, please turn them over to the FBI for further investigation. Were the intended convention delegates verified as legal citizens, registered voters, do they live in the 51st, were their names checked against suspected terrorist list? 

I am aware of a fraudulant delegate form submitted by a Gill volunteer that doesn't live in the 51st but voted at the convention.  Is it possible that  some of the delegates who were allowed to vote deceivingly obtained false addresses by way of renting or owning property in PW,  but in truth live full time in the Wahhabi Corridor? 

Is this a wake up call? Is Gill part of Abdurahman Alamoudi's Islamic Brotherhood?  An Ummah who supports jihadist? A a facilitator of Islamic terrorism?  Is his true political goal to roll back U.S. support for Israel and weakening U.S. anti-terrorism laws.  

Never forget, Gill worked as head lobbyist for a convicted terrorist with proven ties to Al-qaida and Osama bin Ladin. He failed to disclose this on his job application to Homeland Security. At the convention he stated, "I am proud of the organizations that I have worked for in the past!" 

The VA Jihad network is plotting future attacks on America.  Don't be fooled. If you, or Kopko have sufficient reason to question anything you witnessed at the convention, turn it over to the appropriate authorities for further investigation.  It's never too late to do the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, do you have copies of all the delegate forms submitted to credentials?  If so, please turn them over to the FBI for further investigation. Were the intended convention delegates verified as legal citizens, registered voters, do they live in the 51st, were their names checked against suspected terrorist list? </p>
<p>I am aware of a fraudulant delegate form submitted by a Gill volunteer that doesn&#8217;t live in the 51st but voted at the convention.  Is it possible that  some of the delegates who were allowed to vote deceivingly obtained false addresses by way of renting or owning property in PW,  but in truth live full time in the Wahhabi Corridor? </p>
<p>Is this a wake up call? Is Gill part of Abdurahman Alamoudi&#8217;s Islamic Brotherhood?  An Ummah who supports jihadist? A a facilitator of Islamic terrorism?  Is his true political goal to roll back U.S. support for Israel and weakening U.S. anti-terrorism laws.  </p>
<p>Never forget, Gill worked as head lobbyist for a convicted terrorist with proven ties to Al-qaida and Osama bin Ladin. He failed to disclose this on his job application to Homeland Security. At the convention he stated, &#8220;I am proud of the organizations that I have worked for in the past!&#8221; </p>
<p>The VA Jihad network is plotting future attacks on America.  Don&#8217;t be fooled. If you, or Kopko have sufficient reason to question anything you witnessed at the convention, turn it over to the appropriate authorities for further investigation.  It&#8217;s never too late to do the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15233</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15233</guid>
		<description>As to the credentials and uncredentialed people voting:

You most certainly could have left early and still had a vote cast.

Just give your badge to someone else.  Gotta go to work?  No problem, pass off your credential to your cousin, a non-citizen, who is waiting outside.

How much time passed between getting your credential and actually voting? A lot. Enough time to copy your badge and have your non-citizen buddy stand at the end of the line in a big precinct while you stand at the front. No one would even notice that there were 2 votes from the same name - because there was no roster.  A roster would have been the most common sense thing, and yet it was "overlooked."  Somehow I doubt it was "accidentally" overlooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the credentials and uncredentialed people voting:</p>
<p>You most certainly could have left early and still had a vote cast.</p>
<p>Just give your badge to someone else.  Gotta go to work?  No problem, pass off your credential to your cousin, a non-citizen, who is waiting outside.</p>
<p>How much time passed between getting your credential and actually voting? A lot. Enough time to copy your badge and have your non-citizen buddy stand at the end of the line in a big precinct while you stand at the front. No one would even notice that there were 2 votes from the same name - because there was no roster.  A roster would have been the most common sense thing, and yet it was &#8220;overlooked.&#8221;  Somehow I doubt it was &#8220;accidentally&#8221; overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15227</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15227</guid>
		<description>Chris Day is Cuccinelli's law partner in Cuccinelli and Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Day is Cuccinelli&#8217;s law partner in Cuccinelli and Day.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15226</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 08:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15226</guid>
		<description>Case Number: GT07035772-00 File Date: 02/23/07 Complainant: SOLO, P J Locality: COMMONWEALTH OF VA Defendant: GILL, FAISAL M Defense Attorney: DAY, CHRISTOPHER 268-5600 City/State Address: WOODBRIDGE, VA 22192 Sex: Male Race: Other (Includes Not Applicable, Unknown)

DOB: 06/02/**** Charge: 081/55 RECKLESS Code Section: A.46.2-862 Case Type: Misdemeanor Class: 1 Amended Charge: 074/55 SPEEDING Amended Code Section: G.46.2-870 Amended Case Type: Infraction

Offense Date: 02/02/07 Arrest Date: 00000 Hearings Number Date Time Result Hearing Type Courtroom Plea Min Continuance Code 02 04/17/07 0925AM Continued Motion

03 04/19/07 0930AM Continued Adjudicatory 1D

923 Defendant 04 06/21/07 0930AM Finalized Adjudicatory 1B Guilty 927

Final Disposition in District Court: Guilty Fines/Costs Paid: 06/21/07

Sentence Time: Sentence Suspension Time: Operator License Suspension Time: Fine: $200.00

Cost: $57.00 Operator License Restriction Codes: Restriction Start Date: Restriction End Date: VASAP:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Case Number: GT07035772-00 File Date: 02/23/07 Complainant: SOLO, P J Locality: COMMONWEALTH OF VA Defendant: GILL, FAISAL M Defense Attorney: DAY, CHRISTOPHER 268-5600 City/State Address: WOODBRIDGE, VA 22192 Sex: Male Race: Other (Includes Not Applicable, Unknown)</p>
<p>DOB: 06/02/**** Charge: 081/55 RECKLESS Code Section: A.46.2-862 Case Type: Misdemeanor Class: 1 Amended Charge: 074/55 SPEEDING Amended Code Section: G.46.2-870 Amended Case Type: Infraction</p>
<p>Offense Date: 02/02/07 Arrest Date: 00000 Hearings Number Date Time Result Hearing Type Courtroom Plea Min Continuance Code 02 04/17/07 0925AM Continued Motion</p>
<p>03 04/19/07 0930AM Continued Adjudicatory 1D</p>
<p>923 Defendant 04 06/21/07 0930AM Finalized Adjudicatory 1B Guilty 927</p>
<p>Final Disposition in District Court: Guilty Fines/Costs Paid: 06/21/07</p>
<p>Sentence Time: Sentence Suspension Time: Operator License Suspension Time: Fine: $200.00</p>
<p>Cost: $57.00 Operator License Restriction Codes: Restriction Start Date: Restriction End Date: VASAP:</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15206</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 01:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15206</guid>
		<description>Jonathon, thanks for adding in Cuccinelli.  

What's the story on Cuccinelli's law partner representing Gill in court a couple of weeks ago?  I heard Gill entered a guilty plea on his reckless driving charge and the judge allowed him to keep his drivers license!

To quote Michelle Malkin...http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/22/who-is-faisal-gill/

"How does a guy with no intelligence background get appointed director of intelligence policy at DHS–and how does he keep that job and his security clearance after committing two possible felonies by failing to list his two foreign-funded employers on sworn government forms?!?!?!?!"

"Republicans need to get over their fears of Norquist, put the nation’s interests first, and raise holy hell about this. If they don’t, Democrats will. And they should."

"Gill also worked in 2001 for a Muslim political outreach organization that Norquist co-founded with a former top aide to Alamoudi."  ""</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathon, thanks for adding in Cuccinelli.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the story on Cuccinelli&#8217;s law partner representing Gill in court a couple of weeks ago?  I heard Gill entered a guilty plea on his reckless driving charge and the judge allowed him to keep his drivers license!</p>
<p>To quote Michelle Malkin&#8230;http://michellemalkin.com/2004/06/22/who-is-faisal-gill/</p>
<p>&#8220;How does a guy with no intelligence background get appointed director of intelligence policy at DHS–and how does he keep that job and his security clearance after committing two possible felonies by failing to list his two foreign-funded employers on sworn government forms?!?!?!?!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Republicans need to get over their fears of Norquist, put the nation’s interests first, and raise holy hell about this. If they don’t, Democrats will. And they should.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Gill also worked in 2001 for a Muslim political outreach organization that Norquist co-founded with a former top aide to Alamoudi.&#8221;  &#8220;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15199</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15199</guid>
		<description>"""Gill was the head lobbyist for the American Muslim Council founded by Alamoudi a convicted terrorist. The AMC lobbied to weaken U.S. counterrerorism laws. CS, SL, BB, MM, DD are enabling a political coup by failing to recognize Gill’s allegiance is to Islam, not the United States because Rove and Norquist have them believing that the Muslim’s are the new GOP voter base."""

Don't forget about KC, state senator Ken Cuccinelli (R-37) who travelled to Woodbridge on 3/31/07 to endorse Faisal Gill at Gill's campaign kickoff.

It is too bad that Gill's minion Michele McQuigg, who also spoke at Gill's campaign kickoff, didn't use her position as Credentials co-chair to stop overvoting and fraudulent voter badges. Now we cannot even say who really got more votes at the June convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Gill was the head lobbyist for the American Muslim Council founded by Alamoudi a convicted terrorist. The AMC lobbied to weaken U.S. counterrerorism laws. CS, SL, BB, MM, DD are enabling a political coup by failing to recognize Gill’s allegiance is to Islam, not the United States because Rove and Norquist have them believing that the Muslim’s are the new GOP voter base.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget about KC, state senator Ken Cuccinelli (R-37) who travelled to Woodbridge on 3/31/07 to endorse Faisal Gill at Gill&#8217;s campaign kickoff.</p>
<p>It is too bad that Gill&#8217;s minion Michele McQuigg, who also spoke at Gill&#8217;s campaign kickoff, didn&#8217;t use her position as Credentials co-chair to stop overvoting and fraudulent voter badges. Now we cannot even say who really got more votes at the June convention.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15198</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15198</guid>
		<description>Wow...that takes the term "opportunist" to an all new level.  Way to go Kopko...you're really setting the standard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;that takes the term &#8220;opportunist&#8221; to an all new level.  Way to go Kopko&#8230;you&#8217;re really setting the standard!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15196</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15196</guid>
		<description>The fact that Gill proudly announced at the Convention that he would take his oath of office on the Quran has a profound message.  His mission is to spread the rule of Islam and help to overthrow the CONSTITUTION!  

Omar M. Ahmad the Chairman of the nation's Muslim-right group called CAIR has stated "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America."  

They will "seed discord among the ranks of the enemy", which they have clearly accomplished in the 51st for Feisal "faisal" Muhammad Gill.  With all respect to the many hard working and experienced volunteers who gave their time to this convention, it was a sham from the beginning. You can split hairs all day long, no opponent could have beat Gill.

Gill was the head lobbyist for the American Muslim Council founded by Alamoudi a convicted terrorist. The AMC lobbied to weaken U.S. counterrerorism laws. CS, SL, BB, MM, DD are enabling a political coup by failing to recognize Gill's allegiance is to Islam, not the United States because Rove and Norquist have them believing that the Muslim's are the new GOP voter base. 

As for our lame duck Kopko whose full time job is in IT sales in the Federal space, a senior White House official of Persian origin was put in charge of government contracting and outsourcing, even though congressional lobbying records show he once lobbied on behalf of Alamoudi, along with Gill.  A contract would pay a far greater sales commission than the $2,000. Kopko earned by the Gill campaign.

Our Committee has been indirectly hijacked by Islamic Terrorists because some elected officials are motivated by greed that is based on sugar coated and deceptive lies.  Northern VA (Prince William) is now a Sanctuary of TERROR.  We can thank "W" for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Gill proudly announced at the Convention that he would take his oath of office on the Quran has a profound message.  His mission is to spread the rule of Islam and help to overthrow the CONSTITUTION!  </p>
<p>Omar M. Ahmad the Chairman of the nation&#8217;s Muslim-right group called CAIR has stated &#8220;Islam isn&#8217;t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America.&#8221;  </p>
<p>They will &#8220;seed discord among the ranks of the enemy&#8221;, which they have clearly accomplished in the 51st for Feisal &#8220;faisal&#8221; Muhammad Gill.  With all respect to the many hard working and experienced volunteers who gave their time to this convention, it was a sham from the beginning. You can split hairs all day long, no opponent could have beat Gill.</p>
<p>Gill was the head lobbyist for the American Muslim Council founded by Alamoudi a convicted terrorist. The AMC lobbied to weaken U.S. counterrerorism laws. CS, SL, BB, MM, DD are enabling a political coup by failing to recognize Gill&#8217;s allegiance is to Islam, not the United States because Rove and Norquist have them believing that the Muslim&#8217;s are the new GOP voter base. </p>
<p>As for our lame duck Kopko whose full time job is in IT sales in the Federal space, a senior White House official of Persian origin was put in charge of government contracting and outsourcing, even though congressional lobbying records show he once lobbied on behalf of Alamoudi, along with Gill.  A contract would pay a far greater sales commission than the $2,000. Kopko earned by the Gill campaign.</p>
<p>Our Committee has been indirectly hijacked by Islamic Terrorists because some elected officials are motivated by greed that is based on sugar coated and deceptive lies.  Northern VA (Prince William) is now a Sanctuary of TERROR.  We can thank &#8220;W&#8221; for that.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15175</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15175</guid>
		<description>Here are some links on the Iraqi illegal alien pipeline and how it works.
http://www.jsharf.com/view/

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA052007.01A.SIA_Main_PartOne.359e190.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some links on the Iraqi illegal alien pipeline and how it works.<br />
<a href="http://www.jsharf.com/view/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jsharf.com/view/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA052007.01A.SIA_Main_PartOne.359e190.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA052007.01A.SIA_Main_PartOne.359e190.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15103</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15103</guid>
		<description>I guess every body is waiting for Kopko, RPV and the state board of elections to decide. It sure is taking a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess every body is waiting for Kopko, RPV and the state board of elections to decide. It sure is taking a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15102</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15102</guid>
		<description>There's also the matter of Gill's 10 year old son (or thereabout) being witnessed handing out ballots...and telling the individual in line who called him on it, "don't worry about it."  Fresh kid, huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the matter of Gill&#8217;s 10 year old son (or thereabout) being witnessed handing out ballots&#8230;and telling the individual in line who called him on it, &#8220;don&#8217;t worry about it.&#8221;  Fresh kid, huh.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15077</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15077</guid>
		<description>Lyle your comments are very funny.

"We only know that there was no ballot box stuffing because we issued numbered ballots, sat by the ballot box and got the same number back that we issued." Such a declarative statement with no basis in fact.

The fact that there are more votes than delegates in certain districts proves there is either incompetent ballot monitoring or possibly ballot stuffing.

I did see laptop computers in the hallways, so somebody could have easily made more name tags.  That is very ingenious, I would not have thought of that, but it would work. And of course if you can print up name tags, you can print up ballots.

Faisal spent over fifty thousand dollars to get the three hundred or so delegates to show up. There would be a huge incentive to add a few extra ballots or have voters show up to the more heavily weighted precincts on purpose to put votes in the Lakeridge district.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle your comments are very funny.</p>
<p>&#8220;We only know that there was no ballot box stuffing because we issued numbered ballots, sat by the ballot box and got the same number back that we issued.&#8221; Such a declarative statement with no basis in fact.</p>
<p>The fact that there are more votes than delegates in certain districts proves there is either incompetent ballot monitoring or possibly ballot stuffing.</p>
<p>I did see laptop computers in the hallways, so somebody could have easily made more name tags.  That is very ingenious, I would not have thought of that, but it would work. And of course if you can print up name tags, you can print up ballots.</p>
<p>Faisal spent over fifty thousand dollars to get the three hundred or so delegates to show up. There would be a huge incentive to add a few extra ballots or have voters show up to the more heavily weighted precincts on purpose to put votes in the Lakeridge district.</p>
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		<title>By: OPDitch</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15057</link>
		<dc:creator>OPDitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyle,
I generally agree with most of what you said, with a few exceptions.  While I didn't participate as a Voting/Elections volunteer, I did spend a lot of time in the voting room observing.  I was on the credentials committee. When you said:
"1. If you left early, you didn’t get a ballot. The ballots were issued AT the voting table AFTER the credential was checked and marked as receiving a ballot. Uncredentialed voters almost certainly did not vote."
I have some concern about the use of a generic Avery Program that I understand McQuigg used to create the credential badges.  There should have been some unique marking on them, but the committee didn't think of that I guess.  I was able to recreate some very good looking "credentials" after the convention with the use of the Avery program.  IF someone was familiar with what was put on the badges, someone could have created badges for people who may not have passed the credentials committee scrutiny. I'll be happy to show you the "fake" badges I was able to create. 

The reason I undertook this exercise, was due to the fact that we found out after the Convention that someone from the Gill campaign Elections Committee actually created the voting ballot computer files. Some ostensibly "sample" ballots showed up in the hallway before the voting process started.  So the Gill campaign used their  access to the ballot files to print "samples".  I guess we should inquire of McQuigg if she had any help creating the credential badges, or did she do it all by herself.   I guess that would be a good question for Kopko to ask McQuigg during his "utmost in care, thoroughness" plan.

While you as an experienced convention participant felt comfortable with the control of the ballot boxes/containers, I didn't see that they were very well controlled.  The two people handling the precinct that I voted in were very busy handling the next voters after me so they didn't really observe me or even the person in front of me who stepped aside to mark their ballot.  I'm sure they didn't even see me put my ballot into the box. So if I had been accidentally handed two ballots, they would not have seen me put them both in the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle,<br />
I generally agree with most of what you said, with a few exceptions.  While I didn&#8217;t participate as a Voting/Elections volunteer, I did spend a lot of time in the voting room observing.  I was on the credentials committee. When you said:<br />
&#8220;1. If you left early, you didn’t get a ballot. The ballots were issued AT the voting table AFTER the credential was checked and marked as receiving a ballot. Uncredentialed voters almost certainly did not vote.&#8221;<br />
I have some concern about the use of a generic Avery Program that I understand McQuigg used to create the credential badges.  There should have been some unique marking on them, but the committee didn&#8217;t think of that I guess.  I was able to recreate some very good looking &#8220;credentials&#8221; after the convention with the use of the Avery program.  IF someone was familiar with what was put on the badges, someone could have created badges for people who may not have passed the credentials committee scrutiny. I&#8217;ll be happy to show you the &#8220;fake&#8221; badges I was able to create. </p>
<p>The reason I undertook this exercise, was due to the fact that we found out after the Convention that someone from the Gill campaign Elections Committee actually created the voting ballot computer files. Some ostensibly &#8220;sample&#8221; ballots showed up in the hallway before the voting process started.  So the Gill campaign used their  access to the ballot files to print &#8220;samples&#8221;.  I guess we should inquire of McQuigg if she had any help creating the credential badges, or did she do it all by herself.   I guess that would be a good question for Kopko to ask McQuigg during his &#8220;utmost in care, thoroughness&#8221; plan.</p>
<p>While you as an experienced convention participant felt comfortable with the control of the ballot boxes/containers, I didn&#8217;t see that they were very well controlled.  The two people handling the precinct that I voted in were very busy handling the next voters after me so they didn&#8217;t really observe me or even the person in front of me who stepped aside to mark their ballot.  I&#8217;m sure they didn&#8217;t even see me put my ballot into the box. So if I had been accidentally handed two ballots, they would not have seen me put them both in the box.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15056</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15056</guid>
		<description>"we certainly have conducted successful conventions in the past with less ballot security."

That certainly says it all Lyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we certainly have conducted successful conventions in the past with less ballot security.&#8221;</p>
<p>That certainly says it all Lyle.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15053</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15053</guid>
		<description>Jonathan Mark, you are a little off in your questions because you are envision a different process than the one that was in place. 

1. If you left early, you didn't get a ballot.  The ballots were issued AT the voting table AFTER the credential was checked and marked as receiving a ballot. Uncredentialed voters almost certainly did not vote.

2. The ballots were numbered and had the precinct name printed on them.  Afterward, the election committee examined every ballot.  All the ballots in each precinct ballot box matched the precinct. It is possible that valid ballots were issued to delegates from the wrong precinct, but not two ballots to one delegate and so forth. Each precinct had a Gill and a Lucas volunteer working together, so it is very unlikely that a table would have colluded to issue ballots fraudulently.

3. At the end of the balloting, we checked the number of ballots we issued vs the number in the bin and got an exact match.  I guess we can't prove that we didn't have a delegate from another precinct vote in Bethel because there is no paper trail of the hand credential check.  We only know that there was no ballot box stuffing because we issued numbered ballots, sat by the ballot box and got the same number back that we issued.

I think hindsight is 20/20 because we certainly have conducted successful conventions in the past with less ballot security.

Regarding the voting procedures, I don't find anything in Robert's Rules that mandates the kind of ballot security you describe, and the question of what to do with the overvoted proecincts isn't directly addressed.  However, the vote counting section od RONR seems to indicate that when invalid votes are commingled with valid votes and cannot be separated, both are thrown out.  That seems to be the heart of the appeal. We know there are invalid votes in Lake Ridge and Penn, we just don't know which ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Mark, you are a little off in your questions because you are envision a different process than the one that was in place. </p>
<p>1. If you left early, you didn&#8217;t get a ballot.  The ballots were issued AT the voting table AFTER the credential was checked and marked as receiving a ballot. Uncredentialed voters almost certainly did not vote.</p>
<p>2. The ballots were numbered and had the precinct name printed on them.  Afterward, the election committee examined every ballot.  All the ballots in each precinct ballot box matched the precinct. It is possible that valid ballots were issued to delegates from the wrong precinct, but not two ballots to one delegate and so forth. Each precinct had a Gill and a Lucas volunteer working together, so it is very unlikely that a table would have colluded to issue ballots fraudulently.</p>
<p>3. At the end of the balloting, we checked the number of ballots we issued vs the number in the bin and got an exact match.  I guess we can&#8217;t prove that we didn&#8217;t have a delegate from another precinct vote in Bethel because there is no paper trail of the hand credential check.  We only know that there was no ballot box stuffing because we issued numbered ballots, sat by the ballot box and got the same number back that we issued.</p>
<p>I think hindsight is 20/20 because we certainly have conducted successful conventions in the past with less ballot security.</p>
<p>Regarding the voting procedures, I don&#8217;t find anything in Robert&#8217;s Rules that mandates the kind of ballot security you describe, and the question of what to do with the overvoted proecincts isn&#8217;t directly addressed.  However, the vote counting section od RONR seems to indicate that when invalid votes are commingled with valid votes and cannot be separated, both are thrown out.  That seems to be the heart of the appeal. We know there are invalid votes in Lake Ridge and Penn, we just don&#8217;t know which ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15050</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15050</guid>
		<description>It is not just a question of how politicians vote, but also of what they do. 

One problem I have is that Ken Cuccinelli claims to be opposed to illegal immigration. But he endorsed a partner in an illegal immigration law firm, Faisal Gill, for HOD-51. 

You can read Gill and Gallinger's pitch to illegal immigrants on how it can help them remain stateside on Gill and Gallinger's website. It appears that a significant portion of the partners' income is representing illegal aliens. 

Do Cuccinelli, Stewart and others who claim to oppose illegal immigration approve of Faisal Gill advertising among illegal immigrants that he will file  dilatory appeals in order to to delay deportation?

Cuccinelli and Stewart oppose illegal immigration up until the time when their allies like Gill start to profit from illegal immigration. At that point Cuccinelli and Stewart aren't so opposed to illegal immigration after all. At least, Cuccinelli and Stewart didn't opposed illegal immigration enough to refrain from endorsing Faisal Gill, the partner in the illegal immigration law firm of Gill and Gallinger.  

Here are some Gill and Gallinger statements aimed at people who entered or remained in the US illegally, never bothered to apply for asylum (that would give the game away) and now that they have been caught they want, belatedly, to delay deportation with dilatory asylum findings:

http://gillgallinger.com/practice_immigration.asp

"""We can also help you apply for Withholding of Removal (allowing you stay in the U.S. when otherwise eligible for deportation) and gaining protection based on the United Nations Convention Against Torture.

Deportation/Removal

Even if you or your loved one is already in the process of being removed from the U.S.,  Gill &#38; Gallinger may be able to help.  We can help you qualify for protection from deportation based on Cancellation of Removal, Waiver of Deportation, Asylum, or other methods.  Time is extremely important in situations dealing with possible removal, so contact the Gill &#38; Gallinger today for a free consultation."""</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not just a question of how politicians vote, but also of what they do. </p>
<p>One problem I have is that Ken Cuccinelli claims to be opposed to illegal immigration. But he endorsed a partner in an illegal immigration law firm, Faisal Gill, for HOD-51. </p>
<p>You can read Gill and Gallinger&#8217;s pitch to illegal immigrants on how it can help them remain stateside on Gill and Gallinger&#8217;s website. It appears that a significant portion of the partners&#8217; income is representing illegal aliens. </p>
<p>Do Cuccinelli, Stewart and others who claim to oppose illegal immigration approve of Faisal Gill advertising among illegal immigrants that he will file  dilatory appeals in order to to delay deportation?</p>
<p>Cuccinelli and Stewart oppose illegal immigration up until the time when their allies like Gill start to profit from illegal immigration. At that point Cuccinelli and Stewart aren&#8217;t so opposed to illegal immigration after all. At least, Cuccinelli and Stewart didn&#8217;t opposed illegal immigration enough to refrain from endorsing Faisal Gill, the partner in the illegal immigration law firm of Gill and Gallinger.  </p>
<p>Here are some Gill and Gallinger statements aimed at people who entered or remained in the US illegally, never bothered to apply for asylum (that would give the game away) and now that they have been caught they want, belatedly, to delay deportation with dilatory asylum findings:</p>
<p><a href="http://gillgallinger.com/practice_immigration.asp" rel="nofollow">http://gillgallinger.com/practice_immigration.asp</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"We can also help you apply for Withholding of Removal (allowing you stay in the U.S. when otherwise eligible for deportation) and gaining protection based on the United Nations Convention Against Torture.</p>
<p>Deportation/Removal</p>
<p>Even if you or your loved one is already in the process of being removed from the U.S.,  Gill &amp; Gallinger may be able to help.  We can help you qualify for protection from deportation based on Cancellation of Removal, Waiver of Deportation, Asylum, or other methods.  Time is extremely important in situations dealing with possible removal, so contact the Gill &amp; Gallinger today for a free consultation.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/02/mcquigg-responds-on-51st-district-convention/#comment-15047</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see JY elaborate on the right wing being hijacked. I have never seen or heard any of the local Republican candidates at any of the national conservative events held in D.C. I have seen PWC candidates at Virginia conservative events and they were challenged by others in the conservative circles.

Alot of the local PWC republicans just proclaim themselves right wing when they are not because they think it will help them get elected. 

The PWC republican candidates know to spout the conservative platitudes like trained monkeys, but when it comes to voting it is another story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see JY elaborate on the right wing being hijacked. I have never seen or heard any of the local Republican candidates at any of the national conservative events held in D.C. I have seen PWC candidates at Virginia conservative events and they were challenged by others in the conservative circles.</p>
<p>Alot of the local PWC republicans just proclaim themselves right wing when they are not because they think it will help them get elected. </p>
<p>The PWC republican candidates know to spout the conservative platitudes like trained monkeys, but when it comes to voting it is another story.</p>
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