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	<title>Comments on: Stewart: Illegals Supporters &#8220;Blowing Smoke&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/</link>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-16078</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-16078</guid>
		<description>That could be any number of interchangeable OBL (open borders lobby) mouthpieces.

They're all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That could be any number of interchangeable OBL (open borders lobby) mouthpieces.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15929</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15929</guid>
		<description>Check out this letter in the MJM today.   Could this be NOVA Scout?  http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&#38;c=MGArticle&#38;cid=1173351995258&#38;path=!opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this letter in the MJM today.   Could this be NOVA Scout?  <a href="http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173351995258&amp;path=" rel="nofollow">http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173351995258&amp;path=</a>!opinion</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15905</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15905</guid>
		<description>Let's stop saying illegal "immigration" because it feeds our enemys' accusations that we oppose immigration.  I'm guilty of using the wrong terminology myself at times and am trying to avoid it.  I don't know anyone opposed to the illegals who has any problem with people who immigrate to the US legally.

"Illegal Immigration" is an oxymoronic term anyway.  An "immigrant" is by definition someone who migrates from one country to another legally.  Every American (except those whose families came here illegally) can trace their roots back to immigrants, including the so-called "native" Americans whose ancestors migrated across the ice bridge from Siberia to Alaska during the last ice age.  There is no such thing as an "illegal immigrant."  Moreover, saying "legal immigrant" is redundant.

One idiot at the protest outside McCoart Building last Tuesday held up a sign saying that the first immigrants (referring to the orignal immigrants from Siberia during the ice age) were illegal.  I've studied a lot of history and have never heard of a border crossing being set up on the now-melted ice bridge.  No one today is questioning the legitimacy or historic contributions of the "native" Americans to the United States.  I hope he represents the caliber of people in the pro-illegal movement.

The correct terms are "illegal migration" for what is happening and "illegal alien" for the individuals who have broken our laws to come here.  Don't let the adversary define the terms of the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s stop saying illegal &#8220;immigration&#8221; because it feeds our enemys&#8217; accusations that we oppose immigration.  I&#8217;m guilty of using the wrong terminology myself at times and am trying to avoid it.  I don&#8217;t know anyone opposed to the illegals who has any problem with people who immigrate to the US legally.</p>
<p>&#8220;Illegal Immigration&#8221; is an oxymoronic term anyway.  An &#8220;immigrant&#8221; is by definition someone who migrates from one country to another legally.  Every American (except those whose families came here illegally) can trace their roots back to immigrants, including the so-called &#8220;native&#8221; Americans whose ancestors migrated across the ice bridge from Siberia to Alaska during the last ice age.  There is no such thing as an &#8220;illegal immigrant.&#8221;  Moreover, saying &#8220;legal immigrant&#8221; is redundant.</p>
<p>One idiot at the protest outside McCoart Building last Tuesday held up a sign saying that the first immigrants (referring to the orignal immigrants from Siberia during the ice age) were illegal.  I&#8217;ve studied a lot of history and have never heard of a border crossing being set up on the now-melted ice bridge.  No one today is questioning the legitimacy or historic contributions of the &#8220;native&#8221; Americans to the United States.  I hope he represents the caliber of people in the pro-illegal movement.</p>
<p>The correct terms are &#8220;illegal migration&#8221; for what is happening and &#8220;illegal alien&#8221; for the individuals who have broken our laws to come here.  Don&#8217;t let the adversary define the terms of the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15888</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15888</guid>
		<description>What an exciting day, thanks to Greg L. and Help Save Manassas.

I received a call from some family members who live in South Florida that said HSM was featured on the front page, as the headline story for the Ft. Lauderdale Sun Sentinel today (Saturday).  They read the article to me which spanned across the entire top half of the fold, front cover, and was continued inside section A to include 1/3 of a page!  

The author reported in amazing detail and it recognized us for leading the way and doing something to curb Illegal Immigration.  It included the statistics on increased growth in Hispanic’s over the last several years, the increase in gang activity, the strong presence of the MS-13 gang from El Salvador, and other details.

They praised HSM and offered much better coverage than our own local newspaper.  Today Keith Walker wrote, “And so it begins….”   Maybe he should take a few journalism lessons from Greg!  This guy is pretty useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an exciting day, thanks to Greg L. and Help Save Manassas.</p>
<p>I received a call from some family members who live in South Florida that said HSM was featured on the front page, as the headline story for the Ft. Lauderdale Sun Sentinel today (Saturday).  They read the article to me which spanned across the entire top half of the fold, front cover, and was continued inside section A to include 1/3 of a page!  </p>
<p>The author reported in amazing detail and it recognized us for leading the way and doing something to curb Illegal Immigration.  It included the statistics on increased growth in Hispanic’s over the last several years, the increase in gang activity, the strong presence of the MS-13 gang from El Salvador, and other details.</p>
<p>They praised HSM and offered much better coverage than our own local newspaper.  Today Keith Walker wrote, “And so it begins….”   Maybe he should take a few journalism lessons from Greg!  This guy is pretty useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15881</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15881</guid>
		<description>"If liberals want to put there money where their mouth is they should be funding birth control and abortions for these freeloaders."

I can't believe anyone would advocate abortion on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If liberals want to put there money where their mouth is they should be funding birth control and abortions for these freeloaders.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe anyone would advocate abortion on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15867</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15867</guid>
		<description>NOVA,

Do you bother to read anything?  On another thread, you bashed those that are against illegal immigration for using questionable language, yet you do not do the same for those that support illegal immigration(of which there was plenty said during the debate this past tuesday at the hearing).  That is not to say you speak for anyone else at all, just that you seem to have a double standard when calling out people who use the race card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOVA,</p>
<p>Do you bother to read anything?  On another thread, you bashed those that are against illegal immigration for using questionable language, yet you do not do the same for those that support illegal immigration(of which there was plenty said during the debate this past tuesday at the hearing).  That is not to say you speak for anyone else at all, just that you seem to have a double standard when calling out people who use the race card.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15866</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15866</guid>
		<description>correction, "undo"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction, &#8220;undo&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Legal2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15865</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15865</guid>
		<description>We have a clear federal policy. The pro-illegals want to ignore it. So...let's stop making excuses, enforce the laws we now have and work to undue the anchor baby policy. Have you seen Tancredo's OVERDUE Immigration bill?  That's a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a clear federal policy. The pro-illegals want to ignore it. So&#8230;let&#8217;s stop making excuses, enforce the laws we now have and work to undue the anchor baby policy. Have you seen Tancredo&#8217;s OVERDUE Immigration bill?  That&#8217;s a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: NoVA Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15864</link>
		<dc:creator>NoVA Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15864</guid>
		<description>CoM: I'm about the only person who comments here who thinks the Stirrup resolution was irresponsible demagoguery and I comment only for myself.  My grounds were policy/fiscal/law and order and federalism.  It was bad enough idea without having to go to whether there is a strong anti-hispanic animus afoot. What other people say on either side of the issue isn't my responsibility.  I have always acknowledged that there are legitimate concerns about the negative impacts of the absence of a clear federal policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CoM: I&#8217;m about the only person who comments here who thinks the Stirrup resolution was irresponsible demagoguery and I comment only for myself.  My grounds were policy/fiscal/law and order and federalism.  It was bad enough idea without having to go to whether there is a strong anti-hispanic animus afoot. What other people say on either side of the issue isn&#8217;t my responsibility.  I have always acknowledged that there are legitimate concerns about the negative impacts of the absence of a clear federal policy.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15860</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15860</guid>
		<description>AW,

He has touched on "ethnic cleansing" a couple of times.  He also fails to call out people on his side of the argument when they use the race card, yet does it for the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AW,</p>
<p>He has touched on &#8220;ethnic cleansing&#8221; a couple of times.  He also fails to call out people on his side of the argument when they use the race card, yet does it for the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: justice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15857</link>
		<dc:creator>justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15857</guid>
		<description>Legal2, I did sleep on it and you're right. We must keep our professionalism and not stoop to the opposition's hysterical tacticts. We need to keep HSM membership rolling and certainly don't want any fallout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legal2, I did sleep on it and you&#8217;re right. We must keep our professionalism and not stoop to the opposition&#8217;s hysterical tacticts. We need to keep HSM membership rolling and certainly don&#8217;t want any fallout.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15855</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15855</guid>
		<description>COF, I believe NoVA Scout has made a reasonable argument for the other side of the issue.  I don't agree with him, but I've never seen him post racism as a causation on even one occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COF, I believe NoVA Scout has made a reasonable argument for the other side of the issue.  I don&#8217;t agree with him, but I&#8217;ve never seen him post racism as a causation on even one occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15850</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15850</guid>
		<description>Just when I thought there were too many lawyers, I am grateful for the ones we have on the BOCS who know how to deal with their kind, and aren't intimidated by the same old, tired tactics of the pro-illegals. Maybe our country is maturing a little and we have seen the race card played one too many times. It isn't going to work anymore. The article in the MJM today proves that they have nothing but an agenda. No substance, no leg to stand on. The Civil Rights Act (which they erroneously call the Legal Rights Act) has no bearing on those breaking the immigration laws. The law is applied equally to any illegal alien from anywhere. Who are the racists? Check out LaRaza (The Race). They want special privileges and the law subverted for their RACE. The legal citizens of the US have been affected by this agenda, are getting informed, are getting involved and we MUST continue the momentum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just when I thought there were too many lawyers, I am grateful for the ones we have on the BOCS who know how to deal with their kind, and aren&#8217;t intimidated by the same old, tired tactics of the pro-illegals. Maybe our country is maturing a little and we have seen the race card played one too many times. It isn&#8217;t going to work anymore. The article in the MJM today proves that they have nothing but an agenda. No substance, no leg to stand on. The Civil Rights Act (which they erroneously call the Legal Rights Act) has no bearing on those breaking the immigration laws. The law is applied equally to any illegal alien from anywhere. Who are the racists? Check out LaRaza (The Race). They want special privileges and the law subverted for their RACE. The legal citizens of the US have been affected by this agenda, are getting informed, are getting involved and we MUST continue the momentum.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15842</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15842</guid>
		<description>The MJM has run a few letters from people opposed to the resolution, and wow are some people out of touch with reality.  The supporters of illegal immigration never seem to be worried about overcrowding, falling property values, increased crime, increased traffic etc that is caused by illegal immigration.  All they can muster in defense of illegals is to play the race card.   

If there are any supporters of illegals besides Nova Scout that either read or post here, can you please explain why you are not concerned with the problems of illegal immigration.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MJM has run a few letters from people opposed to the resolution, and wow are some people out of touch with reality.  The supporters of illegal immigration never seem to be worried about overcrowding, falling property values, increased crime, increased traffic etc that is caused by illegal immigration.  All they can muster in defense of illegals is to play the race card.   </p>
<p>If there are any supporters of illegals besides Nova Scout that either read or post here, can you please explain why you are not concerned with the problems of illegal immigration.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15841</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15841</guid>
		<description>Legal2,
We've done so much good in short time, it would be ashame to change our course of action now.  
I hope others had the same good night's sleep you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legal2,<br />
We&#8217;ve done so much good in short time, it would be ashame to change our course of action now.<br />
I hope others had the same good night&#8217;s sleep you did.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15835</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15835</guid>
		<description>After sleeping on it, it's an intimidation tactic the other side uses. Please don't go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After sleeping on it, it&#8217;s an intimidation tactic the other side uses. Please don&#8217;t go there.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15824</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15824</guid>
		<description>What would the backlash be with the progress we're making? Perhaps the march is a good idea; perhaps a minuteman group should take on the task, however. just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would the backlash be with the progress we&#8217;re making? Perhaps the march is a good idea; perhaps a minuteman group should take on the task, however. just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: justice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15818</link>
		<dc:creator>justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15818</guid>
		<description>"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom".    John F. Kennedy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom&#8221;.    John F. Kennedy</p>
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		<title>By: justice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15816</link>
		<dc:creator>justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15816</guid>
		<description>Anonymous has a GREAT idea....I'm READY to march with my Peacemaker strapped to my hip...just say when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous has a GREAT idea&#8230;.I&#8217;m READY to march with my Peacemaker strapped to my hip&#8230;just say when.</p>
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		<title>By: mom against illegals</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15814</link>
		<dc:creator>mom against illegals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/13/stewart-illegals-supporters-blowing-smoke/#comment-15814</guid>
		<description>We could meet at the Pavillion and catch all of the traffic on route 28 - through Old Town and into Manassas Park and back again.....
I've got my marching boots on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could meet at the Pavillion and catch all of the traffic on route 28 - through Old Town and into Manassas Park and back again&#8230;..<br />
I&#8217;ve got my marching boots on!</p>
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