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	<title>Comments on: Moran Ducks On Section 287(g) Program</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/</link>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-16016</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-16016</guid>
		<description>"When any candidate enjoys the huge “block vote” 

Freedom,  I believe you have nailed the strategy of winning elections for some politicians, and is not limited to a specific party or level of government.  An example of the "block vote" is an estimated 7 million "citizens" from the Muslim community working together to get George and Jeb Bush elected. 

The "block vote" constituents are well organized and strategically united in their initiatives such as repealing the Department of Justices use of undisclosed evidence against Middle Eastern terrorist in deportation proceedings.  Some say this is a vital part of counterterrorism efforts.   

To maintain a fare and balanced political process that accurately reflects the diversity of all American culture it is seemingly more critical than ever to educate the public and get out the vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When any candidate enjoys the huge “block vote” </p>
<p>Freedom,  I believe you have nailed the strategy of winning elections for some politicians, and is not limited to a specific party or level of government.  An example of the &#8220;block vote&#8221; is an estimated 7 million &#8220;citizens&#8221; from the Muslim community working together to get George and Jeb Bush elected. </p>
<p>The &#8220;block vote&#8221; constituents are well organized and strategically united in their initiatives such as repealing the Department of Justices use of undisclosed evidence against Middle Eastern terrorist in deportation proceedings.  Some say this is a vital part of counterterrorism efforts.   </p>
<p>To maintain a fare and balanced political process that accurately reflects the diversity of all American culture it is seemingly more critical than ever to educate the public and get out the vote.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-16005</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-16005</guid>
		<description>Jonathan and Bryanna, you're both right.  When any candidate enjoys the huge "block vote" that Gill does...we saw that at the convention...it's difficult to keep him out of office in the first place.  Further, it's even MORE difficult when elected officials dismiss his history -- and are sufficiently influenced by his money and the "block of votes" that he commands, to support him...and speak on his behalf.  

Those are the incumbents that need to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan and Bryanna, you&#8217;re both right.  When any candidate enjoys the huge &#8220;block vote&#8221; that Gill does&#8230;we saw that at the convention&#8230;it&#8217;s difficult to keep him out of office in the first place.  Further, it&#8217;s even MORE difficult when elected officials dismiss his history &#8212; and are sufficiently influenced by his money and the &#8220;block of votes&#8221; that he commands, to support him&#8230;and speak on his behalf.  </p>
<p>Those are the incumbents that need to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-16002</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-16002</guid>
		<description>"Maybe Bolling doesn’t know about Gill’s past as the chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi’s American Muslim Council." 

Or is it weak leadership that will allow us to fall on the sword of political correctness? And if so, is that the type of leadership we should continue to support?  The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe Bolling doesn’t know about Gill’s past as the chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi’s American Muslim Council.&#8221; </p>
<p>Or is it weak leadership that will allow us to fall on the sword of political correctness? And if so, is that the type of leadership we should continue to support?  The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15993</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15993</guid>
		<description>"""Dont throw people out of office. you regret it in the long run."""

Such sentiments are why it is so difficult to remove mediocre or worse incumbents of either party. 

All the more reason to keep unfit candidates like Gill out of office in the first place, so we don't have this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Dont throw people out of office. you regret it in the long run.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Such sentiments are why it is so difficult to remove mediocre or worse incumbents of either party. </p>
<p>All the more reason to keep unfit candidates like Gill out of office in the first place, so we don&#8217;t have this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15992</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15992</guid>
		<description>No, it's all about "Pork," right Bryan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s all about &#8220;Pork,&#8221; right Bryan?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15989</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15989</guid>
		<description>Not sure about Brian, but Jim Moran is good for Northern Virginia.   - High ranking DEM on the approps committee means he can steer federal money towards his constituents.  

Dont throw people out of office.  you regret it in the long run.  it is about committees they sit on.  not who they are or what great speechmakers they are.  or if they tell you what you want to hear about immigration.  they cannot effect change anyways</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure about Brian, but Jim Moran is good for Northern Virginia.   - High ranking DEM on the approps committee means he can steer federal money towards his constituents.  </p>
<p>Dont throw people out of office.  you regret it in the long run.  it is about committees they sit on.  not who they are or what great speechmakers they are.  or if they tell you what you want to hear about immigration.  they cannot effect change anyways</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15985</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15985</guid>
		<description>anon, as you say, Faisal Gill worked for a group that advised Muslims not to talk to law enforcement...as I see it, the burden of responsibility rests on HIS shoulders to denounce it (which he hasn't).  Until he does, and until he does a lot of things, for voting purposes, I assume him to have supported the concept.  

Politicians talk a lot and Faisal Gill is no exception; I think it's about time for this "Delegate wannabe" to set the record straight, in no uncertain terms, on a lot of issues.  Thus far, he's just been a "I knew nothing about it" kind of guy.  What would you expect him to say?   I'd say he's "meat for Paul Nichols," but Paul Nichols is a nice guy....too nice, when it comes to mercy on Faisal Gill!  Oh, and let's not forget those principle-less "Gill supporting" Republican elected leaders either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anon, as you say, Faisal Gill worked for a group that advised Muslims not to talk to law enforcement&#8230;as I see it, the burden of responsibility rests on HIS shoulders to denounce it (which he hasn&#8217;t).  Until he does, and until he does a lot of things, for voting purposes, I assume him to have supported the concept.  </p>
<p>Politicians talk a lot and Faisal Gill is no exception; I think it&#8217;s about time for this &#8220;Delegate wannabe&#8221; to set the record straight, in no uncertain terms, on a lot of issues.  Thus far, he&#8217;s just been a &#8220;I knew nothing about it&#8221; kind of guy.  What would you expect him to say?   I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s &#8220;meat for Paul Nichols,&#8221; but Paul Nichols is a nice guy&#8230;.too nice, when it comes to mercy on Faisal Gill!  Oh, and let&#8217;s not forget those principle-less &#8220;Gill supporting&#8221; Republican elected leaders either.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15984</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15984</guid>
		<description>Maybe Bolling doesn't know about Gill's past as the chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi's American Muslim Council. 

Or maybe Bolling DOESN'T CARE about Gill's past as the chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi's American Muslim Council.

Either way, somebody who knows Bolling should speak to him immediately about Gill before Bolling causes himself more self-damage through Bolling's troubling association with Asim Ghafoor, Gill and Gallinger, and the Sapentia LLC.

Virginia's children will not sleep more safely in their beds because Bolling pleads ignorance of the true facts of this matter and instead wants to send Terror Lobbyist #1 Faisal Gill to Richmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Bolling doesn&#8217;t know about Gill&#8217;s past as the chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi&#8217;s American Muslim Council. </p>
<p>Or maybe Bolling DOESN&#8217;T CARE about Gill&#8217;s past as the chief lobbyist for the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi&#8217;s American Muslim Council.</p>
<p>Either way, somebody who knows Bolling should speak to him immediately about Gill before Bolling causes himself more self-damage through Bolling&#8217;s troubling association with Asim Ghafoor, Gill and Gallinger, and the Sapentia LLC.</p>
<p>Virginia&#8217;s children will not sleep more safely in their beds because Bolling pleads ignorance of the true facts of this matter and instead wants to send Terror Lobbyist #1 Faisal Gill to Richmond.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15975</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15975</guid>
		<description>Bill Bolling did know about the controversy with Faisal.  The question is Was Faisal a direct player with Alamoudi and did Faisal instruct Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI and other law enforcement.

It impacts the 51st district directly in many important ways. The 911 plotters lived just twenty miles from here. The same mosque that Mohammad Atta prayed at is still going strong in Falls Church. Now there are possible links to the recent UK bombing and Airport fire in the US. 

The FBI is questioning several doctors in Ohio and the Muslims are refusing to Cooperate with the FBI and are using lawyers to answer simple questions. 

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Toledo071607

Since Faisal worked for a group that advised Muslims not to talk to law enforcement, we need to ask Faisal does he endorse that policy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bolling did know about the controversy with Faisal.  The question is Was Faisal a direct player with Alamoudi and did Faisal instruct Muslims not to cooperate with the FBI and other law enforcement.</p>
<p>It impacts the 51st district directly in many important ways. The 911 plotters lived just twenty miles from here. The same mosque that Mohammad Atta prayed at is still going strong in Falls Church. Now there are possible links to the recent UK bombing and Airport fire in the US. </p>
<p>The FBI is questioning several doctors in Ohio and the Muslims are refusing to Cooperate with the FBI and are using lawyers to answer simple questions. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Toledo071607" rel="nofollow">http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Toledo071607</a></p>
<p>Since Faisal worked for a group that advised Muslims not to talk to law enforcement, we need to ask Faisal does he endorse that policy?</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15945</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15945</guid>
		<description>...but another question, similar but different, Bryanna is:  Have any of our elected politicians, Republican or Democrat accepted campaign contributions (or consultant fees) originating from *foreigners but funneled through American citizens? 

*Anyone who is NOT an American citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but another question, similar but different, Bryanna is:  Have any of our elected politicians, Republican or Democrat accepted campaign contributions (or consultant fees) originating from *foreigners but funneled through American citizens? </p>
<p>*Anyone who is NOT an American citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15939</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15939</guid>
		<description>The $96,000 question is have any of our elected politicians, Republican or Democrat accepted campaign contribtions from any *foreigners?  

*Anyone who is NOT an American citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The $96,000 question is have any of our elected politicians, Republican or Democrat accepted campaign contribtions from any *foreigners?  </p>
<p>*Anyone who is NOT an American citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15936</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15936</guid>
		<description>"Driving on gravel is actually better than driving on this stuff. So, when illegals pave our roads they have to be redone. Real quality work (Ha! Ha! Ha!).
Does this surprise anyone?"

Doesn't surprise me. It's all about quantity and not quality. You have two choices: You can hire someone cheap and unqualified who will screw the job up and take longer, and maybe you think you got a "good deal" because you got, say, 40 hours of work out of him on that one job. This is the "grunt work" approach. Working harder, not smarter.

(Regarding "hard workers": Work is always hard when you don't know what you're doing. It's quite easy when you do).

Choice #2 is to hire someone who costs more but is qualified and will the same amount of work in fewer hours, because they didn't make a bunch of mistakes while doing it. Also known as working smarter, not harder.

I've seen a variant of the sort of thinking that someone who chooses #1 above. This is the customer who gets mad when someone (a computer tech, electrician, automotive tech, etc). solves a problem for them in a short amount of time (say 20 minutes) but charges them for a full hour. This sort of customer would actually, believe it or not, think they got their money's worth if the repairperson actually spent the full hour fixing the problem--as might be the case if the repair person is not qualified. 

Let me ask--if I, as a repairperson, computer tech, electrician, whatever--am skilled enough to fix your problem in 20 minutes compared to some hack who would take an hour, shouldn't I get the same amount of money for my work? The customer got the same results for the same money--better actually, because I fixed it 40 minutes sooner. That's 40 minutes their equipment wasn't down, 40 minutes they didn't need to stand around watching me.

But no. Perversely, they feel they've gotten a better deal when the job takes longer because someone who is unskilled is doing it.

I started becoming aware of this years ago when I had a job building and installing internet servers. I was MUCH quicker and MORE efficient than the other guy whom I replaced. I would get each server built and online in an hour or less--the other guy took at least 3-4 hours because, surprise surprise, he wasn't as skilled at the job. 

Because I was so much quicker at getting the servers built and online, there were days where I simply ran out of work to do--there were no more servers to put online, or the hardware was not on stock, etc. This resulted in the boss complaining that I wasn't busy, that I was sitting around doing nothing, etc. I don't think he ever complained about the 3-4 day backlog of work from the other guy--perhaps he felt he was getting his money's worth out of the other guy since he was always "working hard". (As I said, it's "hard work" when you don't know what you're doing).

So those are my experiences. I guess the question is, you want "hard work" or "smart work"? I do "smart work". I'll leave the "hard work" to unskilled hacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Driving on gravel is actually better than driving on this stuff. So, when illegals pave our roads they have to be redone. Real quality work (Ha! Ha! Ha!).<br />
Does this surprise anyone?&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t surprise me. It&#8217;s all about quantity and not quality. You have two choices: You can hire someone cheap and unqualified who will screw the job up and take longer, and maybe you think you got a &#8220;good deal&#8221; because you got, say, 40 hours of work out of him on that one job. This is the &#8220;grunt work&#8221; approach. Working harder, not smarter.</p>
<p>(Regarding &#8220;hard workers&#8221;: Work is always hard when you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing. It&#8217;s quite easy when you do).</p>
<p>Choice #2 is to hire someone who costs more but is qualified and will the same amount of work in fewer hours, because they didn&#8217;t make a bunch of mistakes while doing it. Also known as working smarter, not harder.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a variant of the sort of thinking that someone who chooses #1 above. This is the customer who gets mad when someone (a computer tech, electrician, automotive tech, etc). solves a problem for them in a short amount of time (say 20 minutes) but charges them for a full hour. This sort of customer would actually, believe it or not, think they got their money&#8217;s worth if the repairperson actually spent the full hour fixing the problem&#8211;as might be the case if the repair person is not qualified. </p>
<p>Let me ask&#8211;if I, as a repairperson, computer tech, electrician, whatever&#8211;am skilled enough to fix your problem in 20 minutes compared to some hack who would take an hour, shouldn&#8217;t I get the same amount of money for my work? The customer got the same results for the same money&#8211;better actually, because I fixed it 40 minutes sooner. That&#8217;s 40 minutes their equipment wasn&#8217;t down, 40 minutes they didn&#8217;t need to stand around watching me.</p>
<p>But no. Perversely, they feel they&#8217;ve gotten a better deal when the job takes longer because someone who is unskilled is doing it.</p>
<p>I started becoming aware of this years ago when I had a job building and installing internet servers. I was MUCH quicker and MORE efficient than the other guy whom I replaced. I would get each server built and online in an hour or less&#8211;the other guy took at least 3-4 hours because, surprise surprise, he wasn&#8217;t as skilled at the job. </p>
<p>Because I was so much quicker at getting the servers built and online, there were days where I simply ran out of work to do&#8211;there were no more servers to put online, or the hardware was not on stock, etc. This resulted in the boss complaining that I wasn&#8217;t busy, that I was sitting around doing nothing, etc. I don&#8217;t think he ever complained about the 3-4 day backlog of work from the other guy&#8211;perhaps he felt he was getting his money&#8217;s worth out of the other guy since he was always &#8220;working hard&#8221;. (As I said, it&#8217;s &#8220;hard work&#8221; when you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing).</p>
<p>So those are my experiences. I guess the question is, you want &#8220;hard work&#8221; or &#8220;smart work&#8221;? I do &#8220;smart work&#8221;. I&#8217;ll leave the &#8220;hard work&#8221; to unskilled hacks.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15928</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15928</guid>
		<description>I just met someone today who gave me an interesting perspective on this illegal alien problem.

This individual is originally from Texas, where he had a small carpentry company and had a number of illegal aliens from Mexico working for him (Texas, like California, has had the situation a lot longer than we have).  Aside from the reason for that, he told me that he often tried to convince them to go back and do the immigration process legally.  What he was told in response is really interesting, and makes a great deal of sense. 

He was told by them that it was virtually impossible to afford the bribes to the MEXICAN OFFICIALS necessary to go through the legal immigration process (it was not time on waiting list, it was the process of getting on the waiting list in the first place).  As I said, not in the least surprising, but not something that would have occurred to me.

It would seem that our government's recent overtures to the Mexican government to explore immigration reform jointly is not just a step in the right direction, but absolutely necessary for reform to do any good.  This, by the way, is one reason why it is MANDATORY for us to send those illegal aliens back...THAT might be the only incentive for the Mexican government to clean its own house.  They won't want to lose their primary source of income (and I don't mean the bribes!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just met someone today who gave me an interesting perspective on this illegal alien problem.</p>
<p>This individual is originally from Texas, where he had a small carpentry company and had a number of illegal aliens from Mexico working for him (Texas, like California, has had the situation a lot longer than we have).  Aside from the reason for that, he told me that he often tried to convince them to go back and do the immigration process legally.  What he was told in response is really interesting, and makes a great deal of sense. </p>
<p>He was told by them that it was virtually impossible to afford the bribes to the MEXICAN OFFICIALS necessary to go through the legal immigration process (it was not time on waiting list, it was the process of getting on the waiting list in the first place).  As I said, not in the least surprising, but not something that would have occurred to me.</p>
<p>It would seem that our government&#8217;s recent overtures to the Mexican government to explore immigration reform jointly is not just a step in the right direction, but absolutely necessary for reform to do any good.  This, by the way, is one reason why it is MANDATORY for us to send those illegal aliens back&#8230;THAT might be the only incentive for the Mexican government to clean its own house.  They won&#8217;t want to lose their primary source of income (and I don&#8217;t mean the bribes!).</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Pratt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15927</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15927</guid>
		<description>I know Bill Bolling and I cannot believe he would ever condone illegal immigration.  I don't like that he endorsed Faisal Gill but when he was a senator he did what he said he was going to do.  I doubt he understood what was going on with Faisal Gill.  I truly believe he is a supporter of what  John Stirrup proposed.  I think he will be a good ally to get stuff done.  I support Bolling and I am against illegal immigration.  I voted for Bush and I am against illegal immigration.  We can vote or endorse people for many reasons and still have values and beliefs that are different than theirs.  I think we should avoid making enemies of allies and lumping them into a pot that ends up cooking friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Bill Bolling and I cannot believe he would ever condone illegal immigration.  I don&#8217;t like that he endorsed Faisal Gill but when he was a senator he did what he said he was going to do.  I doubt he understood what was going on with Faisal Gill.  I truly believe he is a supporter of what  John Stirrup proposed.  I think he will be a good ally to get stuff done.  I support Bolling and I am against illegal immigration.  I voted for Bush and I am against illegal immigration.  We can vote or endorse people for many reasons and still have values and beliefs that are different than theirs.  I think we should avoid making enemies of allies and lumping them into a pot that ends up cooking friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15925</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15925</guid>
		<description>As far as paving goes.  Look at the job that was done on Ashton Ave. near the government center.  Driving on gravel is actually better than driving on this stuff.  So, when illegals pave our roads they have to be redone.  Real quality work (Ha! Ha! Ha!).
Does this surprise anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as paving goes.  Look at the job that was done on Ashton Ave. near the government center.  Driving on gravel is actually better than driving on this stuff.  So, when illegals pave our roads they have to be redone.  Real quality work (Ha! Ha! Ha!).<br />
Does this surprise anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15924</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15924</guid>
		<description>-"When all you of you so upset about illegal immigration ought to stop the whinning and call out Sen Warner and Congressmen Wolfe and Davis on this issue and STOP VOTING FOR THEM. "

I got a very nice letter two days ago from Congressman Wolf. It states that he sent a letter to the Senate asking them not to go through with the amnesty bill. He also said that he will never vote on any bill that supports amnesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&#8221;When all you of you so upset about illegal immigration ought to stop the whinning and call out Sen Warner and Congressmen Wolfe and Davis on this issue and STOP VOTING FOR THEM. &#8221;</p>
<p>I got a very nice letter two days ago from Congressman Wolf. It states that he sent a letter to the Senate asking them not to go through with the amnesty bill. He also said that he will never vote on any bill that supports amnesty.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15921</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15921</guid>
		<description>"They live in Winchester and make $17 an hour as flagmen for a Virginia Department of Transportation subcontractor."

They have to hire illegal aliens to do what has typically been thought of as the one highway job with the least work (flipping a sign back and forth between "STOP" and "SLOW")?

Wonder if that $17 an hour is tax-free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They live in Winchester and make $17 an hour as flagmen for a Virginia Department of Transportation subcontractor.&#8221;</p>
<p>They have to hire illegal aliens to do what has typically been thought of as the one highway job with the least work (flipping a sign back and forth between &#8220;STOP&#8221; and &#8220;SLOW&#8221;)?</p>
<p>Wonder if that $17 an hour is tax-free.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15919</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15919</guid>
		<description>Smiling to ConValliam...and your better alternative?  I suppose you disagree with the President's view on illegal aliens (as I do) but support Hillary's view, or Ted Kennedy's view, right?  :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiling to ConValliam&#8230;and your better alternative?  I suppose you disagree with the President&#8217;s view on illegal aliens (as I do) but support Hillary&#8217;s view, or Ted Kennedy&#8217;s view, right?  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :)</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15918</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15918</guid>
		<description>Jonathan, it's unfortunately an epidemic of horrendous proportions within way too many of our politicians -- if he'll give me money, I'll support him and if my position on an issue will get me voters, I'm for it -- at least I'll say so! 

In November, "remember the 51st" and all those politicians who put money ahead of the right thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, it&#8217;s unfortunately an epidemic of horrendous proportions within way too many of our politicians &#8212; if he&#8217;ll give me money, I&#8217;ll support him and if my position on an issue will get me voters, I&#8217;m for it &#8212; at least I&#8217;ll say so! </p>
<p>In November, &#8220;remember the 51st&#8221; and all those politicians who put money ahead of the right thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Con Valliam (Semper FI)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15917</link>
		<dc:creator>Con Valliam (Semper FI)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/14/moran-ducks-on-section-287g-program/#comment-15917</guid>
		<description>When all you of you so upset about illegal immigration ought to stop the whinning and call out Sen Warner and Congressmen Wolfe and Davis on this issue and STOP VOTING FOR THEM.  Then I can take your concerns seriously.  

But electing and relecting men who could and should have NOT let this situation happen with our borders and law enforcement in the first place weakens your concern.

Oh, and BTW, electing and relecting George Bush as President did NOTHING to improve the situation.  Anyone who bitches about the situation ought to turn the mirror around and place the blame there.  

Maybe you will finally realize that the Republican Party in this country created this situation since they had the levers of power.  Republicans are not your friends on this situation.  If you believe their new found religion on this issue, then I have a pushcart business in Manassas you ought to buy!

Stupidity is electing Republicans election after election and expecting different results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When all you of you so upset about illegal immigration ought to stop the whinning and call out Sen Warner and Congressmen Wolfe and Davis on this issue and STOP VOTING FOR THEM.  Then I can take your concerns seriously.  </p>
<p>But electing and relecting men who could and should have NOT let this situation happen with our borders and law enforcement in the first place weakens your concern.</p>
<p>Oh, and BTW, electing and relecting George Bush as President did NOTHING to improve the situation.  Anyone who bitches about the situation ought to turn the mirror around and place the blame there.  </p>
<p>Maybe you will finally realize that the Republican Party in this country created this situation since they had the levers of power.  Republicans are not your friends on this situation.  If you believe their new found religion on this issue, then I have a pushcart business in Manassas you ought to buy!</p>
<p>Stupidity is electing Republicans election after election and expecting different results.</p>
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