Comments on: The Aftermath http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:12:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: manassascityresident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17939 manassascityresident Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:53:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17939 NoMorePC - I agree 1,000 percent! Profiling is the only way this country will survive. Actually, I had mentioned in a previous post that we need to stop immigration completely, until we get this mess cleaned up! Give it 5 to 10 years, and maybe, just maybe, if you do it legally, we'll let you in. PC has brought this country to its knees. Time to stand up AMERICA! NoMorePC -
I agree 1,000 percent!
Profiling is the only way this country will survive.
Actually, I had mentioned in a previous post that we need to stop immigration completely, until we get this mess cleaned up! Give it 5 to 10 years, and maybe, just maybe, if you do it legally, we’ll let you in.
PC has brought this country to its knees. Time to stand up AMERICA!

]]> By: Bryanna http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17908 Bryanna Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:52:56 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17908 Everyone keeps talking about countries like Mexico, El Salvador. You're all clueless. You better start worrying about the Islamic Terrorist who come here on Visa's and never leave. You think over crowding in neighhoods and open screen doors is a problem, let me tell ya, you aint seen nothin yet. The Muslims are planning a Holy War. It's time for a revolution because our federal government has hired and trained people like Faisal Gill as JAG Officers, and they intent to use our own tactics against us on our own soil. They mascarade as our neighbors, they stay under the radar, operate businesses, and use the money we give them for cab fare, in restaurants, convenience stores, gasoline to fund terrorism. 9-11 was like playing with bb guns, they've got the oozy loaded this time. We must advocate profiling, its a matter of life or death. You choose. Everyone keeps talking about countries like Mexico, El Salvador. You’re all clueless. You better start worrying about the Islamic Terrorist who come here on Visa’s and never leave. You think over crowding in neighhoods and open screen doors is a problem, let me tell ya, you aint seen nothin yet.

The Muslims are planning a Holy War. It’s time for a revolution because our federal government has hired and trained people like Faisal Gill as JAG Officers, and they intent to use our own tactics against us on our own soil. They mascarade as our neighbors, they stay under the radar, operate businesses, and use the money we give them for cab fare, in restaurants, convenience stores, gasoline to fund terrorism.

9-11 was like playing with bb guns, they’ve got the oozy loaded this time.
We must advocate profiling, its a matter of life or death. You choose.

]]> By: mark http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17638 mark Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:15:44 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17638 Great website/blog. Yea! for Greg L. telling the UNFASHIONABLE truth. I'm an independent voter and I hate "spin". It's refreshing to read this site and the comments on it. THANKS Great website/blog. Yea! for Greg L. telling the UNFASHIONABLE truth. I’m an independent voter and I hate “spin”. It’s refreshing to read this site and the comments on it. THANKS

]]> By: redawn http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17388 redawn Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:18:45 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17388 NY harbor arrival '51 said on 26 Jul 2007 at 12:29 am "I’ve never understood this crowing about having ancestors going back to the Mayflower landing in 1620 - must have been one heck of a large boat - and what’s so special anyway?" I will say you are correct, that so many people claim to have heritage of The Mayflower and it is not the case. However, I do have proof and the reason it is special to me, is that it is my family history and I am fortunate that we have been able to trace it. There are alot out there that cannot even link their past. That's all. NY harbor arrival ‘51 said on 26 Jul 2007 at 12:29 am

“I’ve never understood this crowing about having ancestors going back to the Mayflower landing in 1620 - must have been one heck of a large boat - and what’s so special anyway?”

I will say you are correct, that so many people claim to have heritage of The Mayflower and it is not the case. However, I do have proof and the reason it is special to me, is that it is my family history and I am fortunate that we have been able to trace it. There are alot out there that cannot even link their past. That’s all.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17349 Anonymous Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:42:14 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17349 Anon, I don't know anything about city schools. I can only address how to navigate the county complaint chain of command. I did leave out one thing, there is a hotline/tip number listed in the code of behavior. Those calls get lots of action, even if they are not legitimate. Perhaps the information will help others. That gang talk is unacceptable though and it should be addressed by school admin. I guess you are just going to have to insistand be a real pain in the butt over it. The squeaking wheel does get oiled in most school systems. I probably wouldn't be upset if my kid learned Spanish. I wish mine were a lot better than it is. I think being bilingual makes life a lot easier and for the next generation, I expect it will almost be a requirement in many jobs. That is not to say that I support instruction in Spanish or any other foreign language, unless it is a foreign language course. I also think that every person living in the United States should learn English. It is the language of economic empowerment. Dolph Anon,

I don’t know anything about city schools. I can only address how to navigate the county complaint chain of command. I did leave out one thing, there is a hotline/tip number listed in the code of behavior. Those calls get lots of action, even if they are not legitimate. Perhaps the information will help others.

That gang talk is unacceptable though and it should be addressed by school admin. I guess you are just going to have to insistand be a real pain in the butt over it. The squeaking wheel does get oiled in most school systems.

I probably wouldn’t be upset if my kid learned Spanish. I wish mine were a lot better than it is. I think being bilingual makes life a lot easier and for the next generation, I expect it will almost be a requirement in many jobs. That is not to say that I support instruction in Spanish or any other foreign language, unless it is a foreign language course. I also think that every person living in the United States should learn English. It is the language of economic empowerment.

Dolph

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17344 AWCheney Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:39:58 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17344 "THe solution you are proposing is not realistic because there is n o way to verify that the documentation presented by illegal aliens is real or fake." Actually there is TH, which confirms your ignorance of the actual facts of the issue. It has been cited by several commenters here and is available to public authorities...if they choose to use it. “THe solution you are proposing is not realistic because there is n o way to verify that the documentation presented by illegal aliens is real or fake.”

Actually there is TH, which confirms your ignorance of the actual facts of the issue. It has been cited by several commenters here and is available to public authorities…if they choose to use it.

]]> By: TH http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17343 TH Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:30:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17343 Once I learn to write properly your issues with illegal immigrants will be solved. I like that. I will take some lessons AWCheney and then all your problems will dissapear. THe solution you are proposing is not realistic because there is n o way to verify that the documentation presented by illegal aliens is real or fake. Do you see them voting? When they ask for assistance they ask help for their american kids. People insist that your system is Bankrupt but one of your local hospitals just started the construction of a new facility to assist more people coming to your county. I guess they are loosing money. Once I learn to write properly your issues with illegal immigrants will be solved. I like that. I will take some lessons AWCheney and then all your problems will dissapear.
THe solution you are proposing is not realistic because there is n o way to verify that the documentation presented by illegal aliens is real or fake. Do you see them voting? When they ask for assistance they ask help for their american kids.
People insist that your system is Bankrupt but one of your local hospitals just started the construction of a new facility to assist more people coming to your county. I guess they are loosing money.

]]> By: anon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17341 anon Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:57:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17341 dm, I appreciate the advice...however I live in the City, not that that should make a difference, but the Principal was made aware. I know that this child's behavior was addressed but I do not know the outcome. My daughter spoke Spanish all year long...she had no idea what she was saying but she certainly had the rolling r's down to a science. That is what she heard all year long sitting in her classroom and knew no better....as a matter of fact...for lunch she ate hamburgeisas not hamburgers...she is confused as hell! I haven't heard her spanish speaking all summer....can't wait till school starts! dm,

I appreciate the advice…however I live in the City, not that that should make a difference, but the Principal was made aware. I know that this child’s behavior was addressed but I do not know the outcome. My daughter spoke Spanish all year long…she had no idea what she was saying but she certainly had the rolling r’s down to a science. That is what she heard all year long sitting in her classroom and knew no better….as a matter of fact…for lunch she ate hamburgeisas not hamburgers…she is confused as hell! I haven’t heard her spanish speaking all summer….can’t wait till school starts!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17334 Anonymous Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:50:16 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17334 How about a study of how much money "good americans" have made off illegals. They may not pay taxes but when you get paid dirt what is the difference. How about a study of how much money “good americans” have made off illegals. They may not pay taxes but when you get paid dirt what is the difference.

]]> By: 4kidzanadog http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17330 4kidzanadog Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:22:10 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17330 TH, where did you get the idea that I was associating ignorance with crime. If you are illegal you broke the law. I never mentioned roosters or loud music in any of my comments. If you want to drag those issues into the conversation so be it. My answer to you is: Any legal resident or illegal alien owning livestock in a residential neighborhood or regularly plays loud music after a certain hour should be reported to the police department. As for the PW study - any study or attempted study is a joke. How could any study on aliens be conclusive? We have no idea who is legal and who is not. If you can't come up with a head count how can you come up with a cost or an effect? At best, you can come up with an "assumption" but you can't take an "assumption" to court. This is why the PWC will never be able to bill the Fed's for the cost of illegals. Unless we require documention for all services including education and factor in that some of this documentation is falsified. TH, where did you get the idea that I was associating ignorance with crime. If you are illegal you broke the law. I never mentioned roosters or loud music in any of my comments. If you want to drag those issues into the conversation so be it. My answer to you is: Any legal resident or illegal alien owning livestock in a residential neighborhood or regularly plays loud music after a certain hour should be reported to the police department.

As for the PW study - any study or attempted study is a joke. How could any study on aliens be conclusive? We have no idea who is legal and who is not. If you can’t come up with a head count how can you come up with a cost or an effect? At best, you can come up with an “assumption” but you can’t take an “assumption” to court. This is why the PWC will never be able to bill the Fed’s for the cost of illegals. Unless we require documention for all services including education and factor in that some of this documentation is falsified.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17326 AWCheney Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:18:17 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17326 Excuse me TH, but you are still dragging me into aspects of this debate which I have not, heretofore, entered. I happen to believe that people should be required to prove their citizenship when registering to vote and their legal status or citizenship when applying for public assistance (taxpayer funded) of ANY kind. I happen to believe that ANY individual who violates the law should be asked for proof of their legal status and, if it is unavailable, should be detained until it can be confirmed, even if they are a citizen arrogant enough to believe that they, too, are above the law. These are the aspects of the debate which I have addressed and I'm getting a little sick of you continually intimating that I have said things which I have not! And BTW, when you are supposedly quoting me ("AWCheney, You said that it is an issue of illegal vs legal and that if you do this issue something else that person is racist."), I suggest you do it accurately. My grammar may not always be perfect, but it's a heck of a lot better than your version of it. Excuse me TH, but you are still dragging me into aspects of this debate which I have not, heretofore, entered. I happen to believe that people should be required to prove their citizenship when registering to vote and their legal status or citizenship when applying for public assistance (taxpayer funded) of ANY kind. I happen to believe that ANY individual who violates the law should be asked for proof of their legal status and, if it is unavailable, should be detained until it can be confirmed, even if they are a citizen arrogant enough to believe that they, too, are above the law. These are the aspects of the debate which I have addressed and I’m getting a little sick of you continually intimating that I have said things which I have not!

And BTW, when you are supposedly quoting me (”AWCheney,
You said that it is an issue of illegal vs legal and that if you do this issue something else that person is racist.”), I suggest you do it accurately. My grammar may not always be perfect, but it’s a heck of a lot better than your version of it.

]]> By: TH http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17267 TH Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:04:33 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17267 I meant Prince William County .... sorry. I meant Prince William County …. sorry.

]]> By: TH http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17266 TH Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:04:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17266 Pribn Williams tried in January to come up with a study about the effects of ilegal immigration and the results were not conclusive. Pribn Williams tried in January to come up with a study about the effects of ilegal immigration and the results were not conclusive.

]]> By: TH http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17257 TH Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:48:24 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17257 Do you have information about your local hospital? A breakdown by insurance or no insurance? I see old people, brown people, black people, everything there. Yesterday i was helping a mother in a local hospital in DC. She didn't speak any English, she was brown, but you know what she had insurance. So how do you tell that your hospital was bankrupted by what illegal immigrant do. Do you have information about your local hospital?
A breakdown by insurance or no insurance? I see old people, brown people, black people, everything there.
Yesterday i was helping a mother in a local hospital in DC. She didn’t speak any English, she was brown, but you know what she had insurance.
So how do you tell that your hospital was bankrupted by what illegal immigrant do.

]]> By: Legal2 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17251 Legal2 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:01:34 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17251 TH - so the invasion and bankrupt hospitals are ok then? TH - so the invasion and bankrupt hospitals are ok then?

]]> By: TH http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17241 TH Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:13:19 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17241 9/11 terrorist came here with a student visa. Why do you have to tie that attack with illegal immigration? Should I assume that after the Oklahoma bombing all whites are racist and potential terrorrists? 9/11 terrorist came here with a student visa. Why do you have to tie that attack with illegal immigration? Should I assume that after the Oklahoma bombing all whites are racist and potential terrorrists?

]]> By: TH http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17239 TH Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:09:09 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17239 AWCheney, You said that it is an issue of illegal vs legal and that if you do this issue something else that person is racist. So why question was how do you identify them? I am not putiing words in your mouth. Tell me how do you do it? When do you decide that I am here illegally? When you hear that person speaking Spanish? When you see the color of the skin? When you check their papers? My point was that just by looking at people's behavio you caanot detrmine if that person is here legally or not. Then How do you know that your neighbors are here illegally? Because of the rooster? That is what I am adding to the discussion. AWCheney,
You said that it is an issue of illegal vs legal and that if you do this issue something else that person is racist.
So why question was how do you identify them? I am not putiing words in your mouth. Tell me how do you do it? When do you decide that I am here illegally? When you hear that person speaking Spanish? When you see the color of the skin? When you check their papers?
My point was that just by looking at people’s behavio you caanot detrmine if that person is here legally or not. Then How do you know that your neighbors are here illegally? Because of the rooster?
That is what I am adding to the discussion.

]]> By: Legal2 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17226 Legal2 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:56:07 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17226 I don't think Ron "envisioned" having to deal with the invasion of uninvited millions, bankrupt hospitals, and 9/11 terrorists crossing our borders as "the last best hope for mankind." I don’t think Ron “envisioned” having to deal with the invasion of uninvited millions, bankrupt hospitals, and 9/11 terrorists crossing our borders as “the last best hope for mankind.”

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17225 Anonymous Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:26:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17225 What would Ron do http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008406 What would Ron do

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008406

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17220 AWCheney Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:02:16 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/07/23/the-aftermath/#comment-17220 "AWCheney, How do you know that the individual who lives in an overcrowded house is here illegally?" TH, you want to tell me where I said that and why you are putting words in my mouth, so to speak? However, since you drag me into that particular debate, I ask YOU, how do you know they aren't?? If you are unable to debate or dialogue with someone on the merit of their own words, then make something up, right? “AWCheney,
How do you know that the individual who lives in an overcrowded house is here illegally?”

TH, you want to tell me where I said that and why you are putting words in my mouth, so to speak? However, since you drag me into that particular debate, I ask YOU, how do you know they aren’t?? If you are unable to debate or dialogue with someone on the merit of their own words, then make something up, right?

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