Well actually it is worse if an illegal alien does it, than if an American does it, because it’s a crime that didn’t have to happen, and wouldn’t have happened, if our government enforced the law.

Probably thinks his little masturbation joke of a screen name is just so clever, so hip, so “edgy.” Probably thought the “dumb rednecks” posting on this blog would just be bowled by his overwhelming cleverness, his hipness, his unchallengeable street cred. “Yes, I have seen the light, Onan the Barbarian, your ultra-clever screen nic has shown me up for the hopelessly racist hick loser cracker I really am,” (he imagines us responding to his brilliant riposts.) “I bask in the greatness of your cyber-presence and am now willing to welcome the entire Mexican state of Jalisco into my back yard and will also gladly pay for endless numbers of their industrial size boxes of Huggies diapers out of my own pocket.”

We’ve got five-year-olds running our country and our society. Where did all the grown-ups go?

Anon said on 1 Aug 2007 at 8:33 am:
Onan, come on. You are holding everyone here to such a high standard of fairness, tolerance, and integrity. What are you smoking? Don’t you know that illegal aliens have a monopoly on criminal and other bad behavior? Or, even when they don’t, when they do something, it is far worse than if it were done by a native-born American or legal resident. If they do it while speaking Spanish, that’s even more damning. Tsk, tsk. Get with the program.

I’m sorry, but looking over the post again I couldn’t find where the allegation was made that she was illegal. There was the opinion that had the Washington Post reporter dug a little deeper he’d have found these thefts widely practiced among the illegal immigrant population…there were the links to actual articles related to identity theft and the illegals practicing it. There were at no points in the original post any verbage that directly or indirectly accused this Cabrera-Rivera of being an illegal immigrant.

Let’s get something straight here TH…IMMIGRATION reform is in no way amnesty! Immigration reform involves simplifying and remedying the flaws in the current LEGAL immigration process…and enforcing the laws. THAT is reform…amnesty is surrendering the system to those who have subverted it. Why should any new law or reform be taken any more seriously than our current laws by the next batch of border jumpers than the previous law if that happens? The people who are hurt most by amnesty are the ones who have been patiently waiting to come to this country legally. I didn’t think that it was the American way to punish people for following the rules.

I don’t get this argument. Are you saying that if illegal immigrants acted like natural born citizens, people wouldn’t have a problem with them? And conversely - if a legal immigrant gets full citizenship but still acts in the manner you describe - should they be deported or something? If that’s the case, then it seems that your problem isn’t so much with illegal immigrants as much as immigrants who don’t make every effort to assimilate as quickly as possible.

re: We already have enough American citizens that act that way and we certainly don’t need 20 million more.

I am disgusted with Americans acting like pigs and have been for a long time. It isn’t about money. I have known people poorer than church mice who don’t act like pigs. It is all about having some class and not acting like you are on the Jerry Springer Show, which has to be the nadir of American entertainment.

I am more concerned about how immigrants act than I am over their legality. I think Americans ought to be setting a better example for newcomers than they do.

That is not to say I support illegality. I do not. I want the borders secure..on all sides actually. I am just saying I could forgive a little illegality if the person acted decently and became a productive member of our society instead of sinking to our lowest common denominator.

If I were an immigrant, legal or illegal, anywhere, I would try to blend in and follow the customs and laws of that country I had entered. It is pretty much a survival technique if nothing else.

Perhaps I am more forgiving of those who have not been raised with our values in this country than I am with the born and bred in America types who need a good spanking and a crash course in decent behavior.

Dolph

’twas an example…feel free to substitute any other dialect of Spanish you want.

“Perhaps those Asians, Chinese, and other immigrants have assimilated into the community and the transition has been seamless because they take pride in their property, follow the rules in their neighborhoods, and speak English. Just a thought….”

If they would just learn to follow our rules this wouldn’t be so much of a problem. Why can’t they all just respect their homes, keep a clean area, learn English, stop urinating on the sides of buildings, stop oogling female citizens and basically stop living like rats and maybe Americans would be much more tolerant of them. We already have enough American citizens that act that way and we certainly don’t need 20 million more. For a group that is breaking one law after another you think their leaders would tell them to chill out and start following the rules. Sheesh.

Whereas we would say “Ford has introduced a new vehicle…” they would say “Ford have introduced a new vehicle”.

They also use terms like dodgy, spanner, petrol, and torch.

I get the impression that the differences between Mexican Spanish and European Spanish run much deeper than that…