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	<title>Comments on: Raising Good Little Socialists</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: TH</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18894</link>
		<dc:creator>TH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18894</guid>
		<description>COM,
don't use fallacies to respond to my facts. You said there was no consequence after the war and I prove yoiu that there was. In other words there is nothing wrong with the description used by the schools. Germany didn't belong to the US. They were given money to rebuild "their" country.
Our discusion was about the facts of the stament and it was not about effects of wars(which now seems to be normal to you after you were presented the facts).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COM,<br />
don&#8217;t use fallacies to respond to my facts. You said there was no consequence after the war and I prove yoiu that there was. In other words there is nothing wrong with the description used by the schools. Germany didn&#8217;t belong to the US. They were given money to rebuild &#8220;their&#8221; country.<br />
Our discusion was about the facts of the stament and it was not about effects of wars(which now seems to be normal to you after you were presented the facts).</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18863</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18863</guid>
		<description>TH, 

Acording to the article lots of people lost their land, not just the mexicans.  But, I suppose that is what happens when you live in a Country that lost a war.  I suppose Germany should be the number one producer of illegals, since they lost two wars within 25 years.   Yet, somehow Germany was able to over come that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TH, </p>
<p>Acording to the article lots of people lost their land, not just the mexicans.  But, I suppose that is what happens when you live in a Country that lost a war.  I suppose Germany should be the number one producer of illegals, since they lost two wars within 25 years.   Yet, somehow Germany was able to over come that.</p>
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		<title>By: TH</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18837</link>
		<dc:creator>TH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18837</guid>
		<description>COM,
 They lost their land!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COM,<br />
 They lost their land!</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18634</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 01:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18634</guid>
		<description>TH,

The only thing that I could get from the article was the land tax hurt everyone.   That does not explain the other BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TH,</p>
<p>The only thing that I could get from the article was the land tax hurt everyone.   That does not explain the other BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18552</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18552</guid>
		<description>From another thread. Both videos are worth watching. This is what I was talking about. Be very careful as you can be co-opted into this ideology and don't even know it.  http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:yDaRvPZsYnEJ:americaholds.blogspot.com/search/label/Peg%2520Luksik+peg+luksik&#38;hl=en&#38;ct=clnk&#38;cd=10&#38;gl=us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From another thread. Both videos are worth watching. This is what I was talking about. Be very careful as you can be co-opted into this ideology and don&#8217;t even know it.  <a href="http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:yDaRvPZsYnEJ:americaholds.blogspot.com/search/label/Peg%2520Luksik+peg+luksik&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=10&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:yDaRvPZsYnEJ:americaholds.blogspot.com/search/label/Peg%2520Luksik+peg+luksik&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=10&amp;gl=us</a></p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18550</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18550</guid>
		<description>I have to agree with Dolph on this issue.  Aside from addressing the serious overcrowding due to the invasion, and the special needs (and I still think that the solution is a special needs school), Prince William County schools (at least the ones my kids attended) are really quite good.  Of course, while my kids were in school I was on top of everything.  I even interviewed and investigated their assigned teachers while they were in Elementary School and made sure they got the best ones.  Problems...I was the first to hear about them, and address them, no matter what it took.  I always knew what my kids were doing and studying.  That's a parent's job, and my point.  The schools aren't going to be able to "socialize" our kids if we, as parents, are doing our job.  I wanted the best education possible for them, and they got it.  My husband and I took care of the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Dolph on this issue.  Aside from addressing the serious overcrowding due to the invasion, and the special needs (and I still think that the solution is a special needs school), Prince William County schools (at least the ones my kids attended) are really quite good.  Of course, while my kids were in school I was on top of everything.  I even interviewed and investigated their assigned teachers while they were in Elementary School and made sure they got the best ones.  Problems&#8230;I was the first to hear about them, and address them, no matter what it took.  I always knew what my kids were doing and studying.  That&#8217;s a parent&#8217;s job, and my point.  The schools aren&#8217;t going to be able to &#8220;socialize&#8221; our kids if we, as parents, are doing our job.  I wanted the best education possible for them, and they got it.  My husband and I took care of the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: TH</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18549</link>
		<dc:creator>TH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18549</guid>
		<description>"The presence of a Mexican majority in 1848 contributed to a promising start for good ethnic relations in California. Californios participated widely in the early post-conquest government, and provided eight of the 48 delegates to the 1849 state constitutional convention. There they won such transitory victories as a provision that all state laws and regulations be translated into Spanish. In southern California, where Californios remained a majority in some places until the 1880s, they continued to be elected to local and county positions, and a handful held state offices or seats in the legislature.

However, the rapid establishment of a heavy statewide Anglo majority quickly rendered Mexican Americans politically powerless at the state level. As a result, they could not prevent enactment of inequitable and sometimes discriminatory laws. For example, the legislature placed the heaviest tax burden on land, an abrupt and decimating shift from the Mexican system of taxing production rather than land. Although this tax also hurt Anglo landowners, it seriously undermined the Cal-ifornio economic position, based primarily on ranching. The Foreign Miners' Tax of 1850, a $20 monthly fee for the right to mine, was applied not only to foreign immigrants but also to California-born Mexicans, who had automatically become U.S. citizens under the terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The state anti-vagrancy act of 1855 was so obviously anti-Mexican that it became known popularly as the Greaser Law. Possibly the most blatantly anti-Mexican law was the 1855 act negating the constitutional requirement that laws be translated into Spanish. Finally, there were growing vigilantism and squatter violence against Californio landowners.

Land had been the basis of the California socio-economic system. The loss of land after the U.S. conquest undermined that system, in spite of the theoretical protections provided by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Holders of Spanish and Mexican land grants, most of whom were Mexican Americans, had to seek legal confirmation of their titles. In effect, the federal government placed the burden of proof on the landowners instead of automatically accepting all titles and then handling challenges on an individual basis.
Already suffering from heavy taxes and lacking capital, Chicano landowners had to go through the slow, expensive process of legally confirming their claims, and often were forced to borrow money at high interest rates to cover the costs of the legal struggle. Moreover, they had to argue their cases before U.S. judges and land commissioners unfamiliar with Hispanic legal principles and the land tenure system on which land grants were based. Even when they did win confirmation of their grants, Mexican Americans often found themselves personally destitute, or had to sacrifice their land to pay their legal expenses.

Loss of land contributed heavily to relegation of Mexican Americans to the lower echelons of the California socio-economic system. The loss eroded their economic base, undermined their political power, and displaced ranchworkers. Some Chicanos managed to find work in traditional occupations, such as vaquero or sheepshearer, but often only on a part-time basis. Most displaced Chicanos became laborers, poorly paid and often migratory, in expanding large-scale commercial agriculture. Others moved to cities, where their pastoral and agricultural skills were of little use. Many found employment in railroads, construction, and food processing."

That is your example on how things changed in California.
Here is the source:
http://www.lasculturas.com/lib/sd/blsd092200a.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The presence of a Mexican majority in 1848 contributed to a promising start for good ethnic relations in California. Californios participated widely in the early post-conquest government, and provided eight of the 48 delegates to the 1849 state constitutional convention. There they won such transitory victories as a provision that all state laws and regulations be translated into Spanish. In southern California, where Californios remained a majority in some places until the 1880s, they continued to be elected to local and county positions, and a handful held state offices or seats in the legislature.</p>
<p>However, the rapid establishment of a heavy statewide Anglo majority quickly rendered Mexican Americans politically powerless at the state level. As a result, they could not prevent enactment of inequitable and sometimes discriminatory laws. For example, the legislature placed the heaviest tax burden on land, an abrupt and decimating shift from the Mexican system of taxing production rather than land. Although this tax also hurt Anglo landowners, it seriously undermined the Cal-ifornio economic position, based primarily on ranching. The Foreign Miners&#8217; Tax of 1850, a $20 monthly fee for the right to mine, was applied not only to foreign immigrants but also to California-born Mexicans, who had automatically become U.S. citizens under the terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The state anti-vagrancy act of 1855 was so obviously anti-Mexican that it became known popularly as the Greaser Law. Possibly the most blatantly anti-Mexican law was the 1855 act negating the constitutional requirement that laws be translated into Spanish. Finally, there were growing vigilantism and squatter violence against Californio landowners.</p>
<p>Land had been the basis of the California socio-economic system. The loss of land after the U.S. conquest undermined that system, in spite of the theoretical protections provided by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Holders of Spanish and Mexican land grants, most of whom were Mexican Americans, had to seek legal confirmation of their titles. In effect, the federal government placed the burden of proof on the landowners instead of automatically accepting all titles and then handling challenges on an individual basis.<br />
Already suffering from heavy taxes and lacking capital, Chicano landowners had to go through the slow, expensive process of legally confirming their claims, and often were forced to borrow money at high interest rates to cover the costs of the legal struggle. Moreover, they had to argue their cases before U.S. judges and land commissioners unfamiliar with Hispanic legal principles and the land tenure system on which land grants were based. Even when they did win confirmation of their grants, Mexican Americans often found themselves personally destitute, or had to sacrifice their land to pay their legal expenses.</p>
<p>Loss of land contributed heavily to relegation of Mexican Americans to the lower echelons of the California socio-economic system. The loss eroded their economic base, undermined their political power, and displaced ranchworkers. Some Chicanos managed to find work in traditional occupations, such as vaquero or sheepshearer, but often only on a part-time basis. Most displaced Chicanos became laborers, poorly paid and often migratory, in expanding large-scale commercial agriculture. Others moved to cities, where their pastoral and agricultural skills were of little use. Many found employment in railroads, construction, and food processing.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is your example on how things changed in California.<br />
Here is the source:<br />
<a href="http://www.lasculturas.com/lib/sd/blsd092200a.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lasculturas.com/lib/sd/blsd092200a.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: citizenofmanassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18546</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofmanassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18546</guid>
		<description>Th,

It left out a little old thing called a war.   Where is the documentation that shows how the mexicans were treated after that?   What types of jobs did they do before that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Th,</p>
<p>It left out a little old thing called a war.   Where is the documentation that shows how the mexicans were treated after that?   What types of jobs did they do before that?</p>
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		<title>By: TH</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18542</link>
		<dc:creator>TH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18542</guid>
		<description>"Between 1845 and 1854, the United States acquired half of Mexico, including the areas that would become all or part of the states of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming. For the seventy thousand to one hundred thousand Mexicans who lived in this region, annexation would exact a high price in terms of discrimination and the loss of land and natural resources"

What is innacurate about this description? I don't see any Marxism there or reconquista concepts. I mean the US paid for that but it was pretty much forced(The United States also paid $15,000,000 ($298,310,309 in 2005) for the land, which was half it had offered for the land prior to the war. Wikipedia). 
More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Cession</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Between 1845 and 1854, the United States acquired half of Mexico, including the areas that would become all or part of the states of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming. For the seventy thousand to one hundred thousand Mexicans who lived in this region, annexation would exact a high price in terms of discrimination and the loss of land and natural resources&#8221;</p>
<p>What is innacurate about this description? I don&#8217;t see any Marxism there or reconquista concepts. I mean the US paid for that but it was pretty much forced(The United States also paid $15,000,000 ($298,310,309 in 2005) for the land, which was half it had offered for the land prior to the war. Wikipedia).<br />
More info:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Cession" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Cession</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18497</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18497</guid>
		<description>Ted,  the kids I know who have been in the IB program have not had the time to do much singing.  I agree with you, it is a very rigorous academic program.  I am glad to hear your son is doing so well.  

Riley, last time I looked, those you mentioned were part of the main curriculum in social studies.  As an Anglo, I sincerely hope we are not listed ever as a 'sub-culture' in any American school system.  

Dolph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted,  the kids I know who have been in the IB program have not had the time to do much singing.  I agree with you, it is a very rigorous academic program.  I am glad to hear your son is doing so well.  </p>
<p>Riley, last time I looked, those you mentioned were part of the main curriculum in social studies.  As an Anglo, I sincerely hope we are not listed ever as a &#8217;sub-culture&#8217; in any American school system.  </p>
<p>Dolph</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18496</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18496</guid>
		<description>k.,

Unfortunately they're both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k.,</p>
<p>Unfortunately they&#8217;re both.</p>
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		<title>By: k. o'toole</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18495</link>
		<dc:creator>k. o'toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18495</guid>
		<description>If these were just anecdotal, dumbing-down incidents, and not social engineering, they might be funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these were just anecdotal, dumbing-down incidents, and not social engineering, they might be funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18494</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18494</guid>
		<description>K.,

Ah, in that case I agree completely!!  

There were, how shall I put it, "differences of opinion" between my son and his IB English teachers that I will enjoy telling my grandchildren about!!!

"Let me tell you about the time your father..........."

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K.,</p>
<p>Ah, in that case I agree completely!!  </p>
<p>There were, how shall I put it, &#8220;differences of opinion&#8221; between my son and his IB English teachers that I will enjoy telling my grandchildren about!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;Let me tell you about the time your father&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: k. o'toole</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18493</link>
		<dc:creator>k. o'toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18493</guid>
		<description>Sorry, I was referring to the IB English programs.</description>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18489</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18489</guid>
		<description>k.,

The IB program can only indoctrinate those who can't think for themselves.  My son completed the IB program at Stonewall and saw from the get go that much of it was "we are the world, let's hold hands, and sing Kumbaya" BS, but it was also a rigourous academic program.  He went walking into VT with 22 credits, didn't have to take Freshman English or Math, will finish his undergraduate degree in 3 years, and will hang around for a 4th year to get his Masters Degree.  He said the work in his first year at Tech was easier than his senior year of the IB program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k.,</p>
<p>The IB program can only indoctrinate those who can&#8217;t think for themselves.  My son completed the IB program at Stonewall and saw from the get go that much of it was &#8220;we are the world, let&#8217;s hold hands, and sing Kumbaya&#8221; BS, but it was also a rigourous academic program.  He went walking into VT with 22 credits, didn&#8217;t have to take Freshman English or Math, will finish his undergraduate degree in 3 years, and will hang around for a 4th year to get his Masters Degree.  He said the work in his first year at Tech was easier than his senior year of the IB program.</p>
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		<title>By: k. o'toole</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18487</link>
		<dc:creator>k. o'toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18487</guid>
		<description>They are all part of the dead, European patriarchy which the change agents have demonized or ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are all part of the dead, European patriarchy which the change agents have demonized or ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Riley, Not O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18486</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley, Not O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18486</guid>
		<description>Where are the resource listings for Irish Americans or German Americans or Polish Americans or Italian Americans or French Americans?  Guess those of us who belong to those groups don't count anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the resource listings for Irish Americans or German Americans or Polish Americans or Italian Americans or French Americans?  Guess those of us who belong to those groups don&#8217;t count anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18485</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18485</guid>
		<description>To all,

I feel like I woke up this morning on another planet just reading this thread. 

The IB program indoctrinates students?  College crap?  Translators not needed in schools?

Help me out here folks.  Please explain what you mean to this earthling here.  Yesterday a dog stuck under the porch, today waking up somewhere else.  Are you all seriously discussing Prince William County Schools? 

Lafayette, I can address the translators.  Schools must, by law, take in all students.  Done deal.  Not open to debate at this time.  It is imperative that the school and the home communicate.  That is pretty much the function of the translators.  Mrs. so and so....I am going to kick Johnny's a** from here to Kansas if he doesn't stop disrupting my class.  Prime example.  

These translators are not a part of the multicultural office and are a critical component in all schools with a heavy immigrant population.  They are needed to conduct business.  Schools without translators either spend a lot of time pointing and drawing pictures or bringing in the custodian to translate a principal's hearing that is going to expulsion.  

For the rest, please explain the problems with the IB program, selected honors reading, etc etc......

Thanks, 

Dolph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all,</p>
<p>I feel like I woke up this morning on another planet just reading this thread. </p>
<p>The IB program indoctrinates students?  College crap?  Translators not needed in schools?</p>
<p>Help me out here folks.  Please explain what you mean to this earthling here.  Yesterday a dog stuck under the porch, today waking up somewhere else.  Are you all seriously discussing Prince William County Schools? </p>
<p>Lafayette, I can address the translators.  Schools must, by law, take in all students.  Done deal.  Not open to debate at this time.  It is imperative that the school and the home communicate.  That is pretty much the function of the translators.  Mrs. so and so&#8230;.I am going to kick Johnny&#8217;s a** from here to Kansas if he doesn&#8217;t stop disrupting my class.  Prime example.  </p>
<p>These translators are not a part of the multicultural office and are a critical component in all schools with a heavy immigrant population.  They are needed to conduct business.  Schools without translators either spend a lot of time pointing and drawing pictures or bringing in the custodian to translate a principal&#8217;s hearing that is going to expulsion.  </p>
<p>For the rest, please explain the problems with the IB program, selected honors reading, etc etc&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, </p>
<p>Dolph</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>k. o'toole

Obviously not.  Many people are impassioned by various issues and they are professional enough never to bring up those issues in a classroom.  Do you go to work and bore everyone with your political beliefs?  I sure don't or I would find my desk out in the parking lot after lunch one day.  

Furthermore, not everyone working for Prince William County Schools is in the classroom. 

We are on really dangerous grounds when we start deciding who and who cannot work for the county based on their political beliefs.   I may not like the individual in question's politics but by God, I will defend her right to work for the county if that is her desired employment.  To do otherwise, to me, is un-American and a type of control I cannot abide.  

Not to be trite, but....

     First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me. 
Martin Niemoeller


Dolph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k. o&#8217;toole</p>
<p>Obviously not.  Many people are impassioned by various issues and they are professional enough never to bring up those issues in a classroom.  Do you go to work and bore everyone with your political beliefs?  I sure don&#8217;t or I would find my desk out in the parking lot after lunch one day.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, not everyone working for Prince William County Schools is in the classroom. </p>
<p>We are on really dangerous grounds when we start deciding who and who cannot work for the county based on their political beliefs.   I may not like the individual in question&#8217;s politics but by God, I will defend her right to work for the county if that is her desired employment.  To do otherwise, to me, is un-American and a type of control I cannot abide.  </p>
<p>Not to be trite, but&#8230;.</p>
<p>     First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.<br />
Martin Niemoeller</p>
<p>Dolph</p>
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		<title>By: k. o'toole</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/02/raising-good-little-socialists/#comment-18476</link>
		<dc:creator>k. o'toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. The IB programs in public schools indoctrinate the kids to prepare them for the college crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. The IB programs in public schools indoctrinate the kids to prepare them for the college crap.</p>
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