Comments on: Congressional Democrats Desperate Sell-Out http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Tue, 22 May 2012 04:43:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18658 AWCheney Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:15:54 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18658 I'll email you as well as soon as I get any information, Maureen, and I know they are hard to find...that's why I'm asking for help. If they exist, my source will either be able to find them or will know somebody who can. I’ll email you as well as soon as I get any information, Maureen, and I know they are hard to find…that’s why I’m asking for help. If they exist, my source will either be able to find them or will know somebody who can.

]]> By: Maureen Wood http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18636 Maureen Wood Sat, 04 Aug 2007 02:13:33 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18636 I too have searched for those INS/FBI statistics and so far have not found them. I've called one person that had these figures on his site and he never returned my call. I've also called the DOJ for information they gave me two numbers to call. One was a recording and wasn't any help and the other is a fax number I need to fax the information I'm looking for to. AWC please let me know also if you find out something, because if they exist, they are extremely hard to find. I too have searched for those INS/FBI statistics and so far have not found them. I’ve called one person that had these figures on his site and he never returned my call. I’ve also called the DOJ for information they gave me two numbers to call. One was a recording and wasn’t any help and the other is a fax number I need to fax the information I’m looking for to.

AWC please let me know also if you find out something, because if they exist, they are extremely hard to find.

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18627 Dolph Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:33:26 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18627 There were cuts to medicare plus, not traditional medicare. The tax increases attached to the bill are on cigarettes. There were cuts to medicare plus, not traditional medicare. The tax increases attached to the bill are on cigarettes.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18614 AWCheney Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:20:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18614 Anon, I will look into it and get some of those "hidden" .gov links that might account for this data. It's after 5 pm on a Friday (LONG past bureaucratic workday) and, though I'll be able to contact my source at any time, I don't know how long it might take him to find the information. If I don't post this weekend on it, email me through Greg Letiecq and have him forward it to me (I don't want to post my address publicly...did that once, much to my regret) and we can set up a dialogue and I can get you the information. Anon, I will look into it and get some of those “hidden” .gov links that might account for this data. It’s after 5 pm on a Friday (LONG past bureaucratic workday) and, though I’ll be able to contact my source at any time, I don’t know how long it might take him to find the information. If I don’t post this weekend on it, email me through Greg Letiecq and have him forward it to me (I don’t want to post my address publicly…did that once, much to my regret) and we can set up a dialogue and I can get you the information.

]]> By: anon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18609 anon Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:01:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18609 <p>PLEASSEEE Greg.......<br /> Democrats are not the only ones blocking illegal immigrant reform. Stop or you will lose some support. This is one of the least partisan issues since the American Revolution. I could accuse Republicans of keeping it alive for economic reasons, but know that would not be fair to all Republican. Could you just stick to the problem and not generalize.</p> [Ed note: if I fail to throw rocks at Republicans (like John McCain) when they fail us on this issue, let me know. See http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/13/send-george-bush-to-gitmo/ for an example.] PLEASSEEE Greg…….
Democrats are not the only ones blocking illegal immigrant reform. Stop or you will lose some support. This is one of the least partisan issues since the American Revolution. I could accuse Republicans of keeping it alive for economic reasons, but know that would not be fair to all Republican. Could you just stick to the problem and not generalize.

[Ed note: if I fail to throw rocks at Republicans (like John McCain) when they fail us on this issue, let me know. See http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/06/13/send-george-bush-to-gitmo/ for an example.]

]]> By: Anon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18595 Anon Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:37:52 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18595 Thank you AWCheney, and if you come across a government citation for the crime thing that everyone quotes as well, that would be great. That dubious info is discussed on BR here: http://baconsrebellion.blogspot.com/2007/07/more-immigrants-less-crime.html There is information on a study that makes intuitive sense, ie. that the native born are much more likely to be involved in crime than others. Thank you AWCheney, and if you come across a government citation for the crime thing that everyone quotes as well, that would be great.

That dubious info is discussed on BR here:

http://baconsrebellion.blogspot.com/2007/07/more-immigrants-less-crime.html

There is information on a study that makes intuitive sense, ie. that the native born are much more likely to be involved in crime than
others.

]]> By: Citizen by choice http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18592 Citizen by choice Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:28:27 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18592 Maureen Wood your vote counts and my vote counts. Maureen Wood your vote counts and my vote counts.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18587 AWCheney Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:18:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18587 2005 statistics Anon...2006 statistics are not yet available. I really have little doubt that the statistics are fairly accurate, but I'll take up the challenge and confirm them. I have some resources there...I'll get back to you. 2005 statistics Anon…2006 statistics are not yet available. I really have little doubt that the statistics are fairly accurate, but I’ll take up the challenge and confirm them. I have some resources there…I’ll get back to you.

]]> By: Anon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18585 Anon Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:12:33 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18585 AWCheney, Do you have a official source for your percentages of illegal aliens on food stamps (at least 43%) and using public housing (60%)? By official source, I mean a government URL or a vetted academic study or similar rather than a quote from an anti-illegal alien website. I ask because on the blog Bacon's Rebellion someone pointed out that he had never been able to find an actual government source for the list of crime statistics constantly pasted and repasted about illegal aliens and outstanding warrants in given places with a heading that reads FBI/INS. The person on BR also pointed out that the list, allegedly reflecting 2006 statistics, refers to the INS when the INS ceased to exist three years ago. Despite the dozens of times I have seen that list cut and pasted, I also have never once seen a government source although it claims to be government statistics. It seems odd that the government would use INS when it doesn't exist. Thank you. AWCheney,

Do you have a official source for your percentages of illegal aliens on food stamps (at least 43%) and using public housing (60%)? By official source, I mean a government URL or a vetted academic study or similar rather than a quote from an anti-illegal alien website.

I ask because on the blog Bacon’s Rebellion someone pointed out that he had never been able to find an actual government source for the list of crime statistics constantly pasted and repasted about illegal aliens and outstanding warrants in given places with a heading that reads FBI/INS. The person on BR also pointed out that the list, allegedly reflecting 2006 statistics, refers to the INS when the INS ceased to exist three years ago. Despite the dozens of times I have seen that list cut and pasted, I also have never once seen a government source although it claims to be government statistics. It seems odd that the government would use INS when it doesn’t exist.

Thank you.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18530 AWCheney Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:05:02 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18530 Food stamps, of which at least 43% of illegal aliens already partake, and housing assistance when 60% of the occupants of HUD housing are already illegal aliens. You know what they're doing, don't you? The enforcement of the law is the only thing that localities can do to address the problem...so they're changing the law. Food stamps, of which at least 43% of illegal aliens already partake, and housing assistance when 60% of the occupants of HUD housing are already illegal aliens. You know what they’re doing, don’t you? The enforcement of the law is the only thing that localities can do to address the problem…so they’re changing the law.

]]> By: Riley, Not O'Reilly http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18529 Riley, Not O'Reilly Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:34:46 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18529 Actually, the bill that takes money from the Medicare Advantage program for seniors in order to pay for illegal alien healthcare is the SCHIP bill that passed earlier this week. This bill from last night was the Agriculture appropriations bill and extends food stamps and housing assistance to illegal aliens. Actually, the bill that takes money from the Medicare Advantage program for seniors in order to pay for illegal alien healthcare is the SCHIP bill that passed earlier this week. This bill from last night was the Agriculture appropriations bill and extends food stamps and housing assistance to illegal aliens.

]]> By: Riley, Not O'Reilly http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18528 Riley, Not O'Reilly Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:32:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18528 McNulty is a dunce. He represents my hometown. McNulty is a dunce. He represents my hometown.

]]> By: Advocator http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18525 Advocator Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:20:55 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18525 What did Frank Wolf do, put a wet finger up to the wind? Would someone PLEASE oppose him in the next Republican primary? What did Frank Wolf do, put a wet finger up to the wind?

Would someone PLEASE oppose him in the next Republican primary?

]]> By: Maureen Wood http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18514 Maureen Wood Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:02:49 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/03/congressional-democrats-desperate-sell-out/#comment-18514 The American people spoke before by email, by fax, by phone. The next time we speak will be at the polls! So, for those politicians that are deaf, maybe seeing your defeat in print will open your eyes instead! The American people spoke before by email, by fax, by phone. The next time we speak will be at the polls! So, for those politicians that are deaf, maybe seeing your defeat in print will open your eyes instead!

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