Comments on: Mexicans Without Borders Goes To War With Salvadorans http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:50:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20532 Dolph Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:39:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20532 I think it would be a good idea to have a rogue's gallery on file of those who participate in the demonstration. Never know when you might need it for identification purposes. Just thinking ahead here. Plus, people taking your picture is somewhat intimidating...more so than being shouted at. If they wear masks then hopefully they would be arrested. In just about every community I have ever lived, the only time you could wear a mask was on Halloween or mardi gras. I think it would be a good idea to have a rogue’s gallery on file of those who participate in the demonstration. Never know when you might need it for identification purposes. Just thinking ahead here. Plus, people taking your picture is somewhat intimidating…more so than being shouted at.

If they wear masks then hopefully they would be arrested. In just about every community I have ever lived, the only time you could wear a mask was on Halloween or mardi gras.

]]> By: Legal2 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20530 Legal2 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:57:08 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20530 I know of a case where someone was arrested for wearing a mask at a gas station. Perhaps a person must call the police to complain about feeling threatened, but I recall he was charged with concealing his face with a mask. I know of a case where someone was arrested for wearing a mask at a gas station. Perhaps a person must call the police to complain about feeling threatened, but I recall he was charged with concealing his face with a mask.

]]> By: Darkmage http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20475 Darkmage Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:38:30 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20475 I don't have anything really substantive to contribute... but let me put in a good word for La Tolteca on 234. Great restaurant. I don’t have anything really substantive to contribute… but let me put in a good word for La Tolteca on 234. Great restaurant.

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20449 Greg L Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:30:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20449 I would generally agree with you. I'm not a big fan of protests, but when the media gets involved it can often be useful to provide a visual alternative to the illegal alien lobby which favors these tactics. For the PR battle, these are somewhat important, but the real place to fight is certainly in front of our elected officials. Fortunately, when the opposition does these things, it often outrages the electorate and pulls them to our side, even when we don't have a presence. The more numbers they pull, the better it is for us on the other side of this issue. I would generally agree with you. I’m not a big fan of protests, but when the media gets involved it can often be useful to provide a visual alternative to the illegal alien lobby which favors these tactics. For the PR battle, these are somewhat important, but the real place to fight is certainly in front of our elected officials.

Fortunately, when the opposition does these things, it often outrages the electorate and pulls them to our side, even when we don’t have a presence. The more numbers they pull, the better it is for us on the other side of this issue.

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20444 Dolph Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:41:50 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20444 I actually agree with you, AWC, but I know there are those who want to show a presence. I just think 2 'sides' standing across the street from each other hurling insults is counter-productive and makes everyone look like fools. If I were Queen, I would command that everyone stay home and ignore them...but so far, no one has appointed me. sigh. Oh I definitely want ICE to own the day. I actually agree with you, AWC, but I know there are those who want to show a presence.

I just think 2 ’sides’ standing across the street from each other hurling insults is counter-productive and makes everyone look like fools.

If I were Queen, I would command that everyone stay home and ignore them…but so far, no one has appointed me. sigh.

Oh I definitely want ICE to own the day.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20441 AWCheney Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:31:32 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20441 Personally Dolph, I don't think that ANYONE should be out there at all, except for the police department and ICE...especially ICE. Let the route be a ghost town and show just how seriously the legal residents take their protest. Personally Dolph, I don’t think that ANYONE should be out there at all, except for the police department and ICE…especially ICE. Let the route be a ghost town and show just how seriously the legal residents take their protest.

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20438 Dolph Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:42:01 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20438 Does anyone know where and what time? I am assuming the protest would be in Pr. Wm. Co. rather than either city. I think a silent camera vigil might be an effect way to show a presence. If faces are covered, then that is a matter for PWCPD. Hopefully ICE will have a strong presence but I wouldn't bet the ranch on that happening. What do county ordinances say about wearing a mask other than on Halloween? Does anyone know where and what time? I am assuming the protest would be in Pr. Wm. Co. rather than either city.

I think a silent camera vigil might be an effect way to show a presence. If faces are covered, then that is a matter for PWCPD. Hopefully ICE will have a strong presence but I wouldn’t bet the ranch on that happening.

What do county ordinances say about wearing a mask other than on Halloween?

]]> By: Had to Say http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20432 Had to Say Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:39:16 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20432 CALL ON FRIDAY CALL ON FRIDAY

]]> By: park'd http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20429 park'd Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:16:49 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20429 Call them the Friday before then. Just call them! Leave a message if you have to. The fact that thousands of illegals might be out prancing around in our streets unimpeded demanding that we cater to them is just really not sitting well with me. ICE needs to know that we expect them to do their jobs. Call them the Friday before then. Just call them! Leave a message if you have to. The fact that thousands of illegals might be out prancing around in our streets unimpeded demanding that we cater to them is just really not sitting well with me. ICE needs to know that we expect them to do their jobs.

]]> By: Anon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20421 Anon Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:07:17 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20421 So why aren't we setting up a counter protest? So why aren’t we setting up a counter protest?

]]> By: Ron http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20420 Ron Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:04:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20420 Park'd September 1 and 2 are on a weekend. Will ther ebe anyone in the office answering the phones? Park’d

September 1 and 2 are on a weekend. Will ther ebe anyone in the office answering the phones?

]]> By: manassascityresident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20409 manassascityresident Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:44:05 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20409 Park'd - GREAT idea! Will do! Park’d -
GREAT idea! Will do!

]]> By: a nonny mouse http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20408 a nonny mouse Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:39:12 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20408 I was just listing more things you'd probably never hear anybody wish for. We set the standard in all of those areas. I was just listing more things you’d probably never hear anybody wish for. We set the standard in all of those areas.

]]> By: park'd http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20402 park'd Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:31:32 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20402 There are 700+ members of HSM and it needs to be top priority for all of us to call ICE on September 1st and 2nd and demand that ICE send people to arrest these criminal illegal invaders and disperse this illegal march. If they refuse to act (which we know they will) then they will be derelict (once again) in their duties and only prove to us (once again) that they refuse to uphold the US constitution, making them traitors. The local ICE contact information below is the Fairfax branch office for detention and removal. Seriously everyone: Flood this office on these two days! If we keep this phone ringing off the hook then they will be forced to do something. Field Office Director, Washington 2675 Prosperity Avenue Fairfax, VA 22031 Phone: 703-285-6200 There are 700+ members of HSM and it needs to be top priority for all of us to call ICE on September 1st and 2nd and demand that ICE send people to arrest these criminal illegal invaders and disperse this illegal march. If they refuse to act (which we know they will) then they will be derelict (once again) in their duties and only prove to us (once again) that they refuse to uphold the US constitution, making them traitors. The local ICE contact information below is the Fairfax branch office for detention and removal. Seriously everyone: Flood this office on these two days! If we keep this phone ringing off the hook then they will be forced to do something.

Field Office Director, Washington
2675 Prosperity Avenue
Fairfax, VA 22031
Phone: 703-285-6200

]]> By: justice http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20388 justice Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:22:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20388 A nonny mouse....be careful what you wish for...... A nonny mouse….be careful what you wish for……

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20387 Dolph Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:19:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20387 John Light, You made some really excellent points. I especially agree with 'WE set the standard that the rest of the world TRIES to emulate.' FYI-PWC has 2 years of western civiliztion. 8th and 9th grade. So world history is alive and well here. John Light,

You made some really excellent points. I especially agree with ‘WE set the standard that the rest of the world TRIES to emulate.’

FYI-PWC has 2 years of western civiliztion. 8th and 9th grade. So world history is alive and well here.

]]> By: a nonny mouse http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20381 a nonny mouse Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:04:25 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20381 Gee, I wish we had police like they do in Honduras or India. Gee, I wish we had politicians like they do in Honduras or India. Gee, I wish we had power companies like they do in Honduras or India. Gee, I wish we had workplace regulations like they do in Honduras or India. Gee, I wish we had restaurant sanitary standards like they do in Honduras or India. Gee, I wish we had building codes like they do in Honduras or India. Gee, I wish we had courts like they do in Honduras or India. Gee, I wish we had police like they do in Honduras or India.

Gee, I wish we had politicians like they do in Honduras or India.

Gee, I wish we had power companies like they do in Honduras or India.

Gee, I wish we had workplace regulations like they do in Honduras or India.

Gee, I wish we had restaurant sanitary standards like they do in Honduras or India.

Gee, I wish we had building codes like they do in Honduras or India.

Gee, I wish we had courts like they do in Honduras or India.

]]> By: John Light http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20373 John Light Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:45:34 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20373 Something JUST hit me. They come into our country and expect to play the political game (be it the level of cooperation with police or how they conduct protests) just like they did at home. This is human nature. How many people do we know from different parts of this country come here and try to make things "just like home." For example, the "Damn Yankee." He comes down here from NY, PA, NJ and talks about taxes like a liberal ONLY because to him, a 6% tax raise is NOT bad - he just is not used to 2 or 4% tax rates. How do we fix this problem? Assimilation. I agree - make English THE language of commerce, just as it is for pilots and air traffic controllers. Demand from the School Board that we teach Western Civilization. Why? Because THAT is the basis our form of government was founded on. We need to hold our politicans accountable at ALL levels. I agree with the post that said that Americans are willing to do the work. Don't let the Liberal Media fool you into thinking that Americans are a lazy people who only want to go where the dollar is. We are an INDUSTRIOUS people who take our knowledge and skills and make an average thing better. WE set the standard that the rest of the world TRIES to emulate. Michael Moore aside, when was the last time you heard someone say, "Gee, I wish we had doctors like they do in Honduras or India." (ok, I KNOW there will be people who say there are great docs in each of those countries, but I am talking "as a whole.") Something JUST hit me. They come into our country and expect to play the political game (be it the level of cooperation with police or how they conduct protests) just like they did at home. This is human nature. How many people do we know from different parts of this country come here and try to make things “just like home.”

For example, the “Damn Yankee.” He comes down here from NY, PA, NJ and talks about taxes like a liberal ONLY because to him, a 6% tax raise is NOT bad - he just is not used to 2 or 4% tax rates. How do we fix this problem? Assimilation.

I agree - make English THE language of commerce, just as it is for pilots and air traffic controllers. Demand from the School Board that we teach Western Civilization. Why? Because THAT is the basis our form of government was founded on.

We need to hold our politicans accountable at ALL levels. I agree with the post that said that Americans are willing to do the work. Don’t let the Liberal Media fool you into thinking that Americans are a lazy people who only want to go where the dollar is. We are an INDUSTRIOUS people who take our knowledge and skills and make an average thing better. WE set the standard that the rest of the world TRIES to emulate.

Michael Moore aside, when was the last time you heard someone say, “Gee, I wish we had doctors like they do in Honduras or India.” (ok, I KNOW there will be people who say there are great docs in each of those countries, but I am talking “as a whole.”)

]]> By: fed up http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20359 fed up Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:14:23 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20359 Guapos is owned by a middle eastern man, i was told. Guapos is owned by a middle eastern man, i was told.

]]> By: Rick Bentley http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20343 Rick Bentley Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:42:17 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/mexicans-without-borders-goes-to-war-with-salvadorans/#comment-20343 Guapos is pretty good stuff. The carne asada tacos are amazing. And they run the place well, service is very courteous. Guapos is pretty good stuff. The carne asada tacos are amazing. And they run the place well, service is very courteous.

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