Comments on: Is Ricardo Juarez An Illegal Alien? http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:18:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Leila http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22369 Leila Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:48:43 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22369 Mike Austin, I'm afraid you are misquoting me. I only asked about your reasoning regarding the MSF being armed on the basis of another entirely unrelated group of Spanish speaking people you saw at a shooting range. I didn't mention anything about brown people, Indian clerks, dead popes etc. I only asked about the business of arms, which you declined to explain in any way and do not mention above. On the other matters, that was someone else. Mike Austin, I’m afraid you are misquoting me. I only asked about your reasoning regarding the MSF being armed on the basis of another entirely unrelated group of Spanish speaking people you saw at a shooting range. I didn’t mention anything about brown people, Indian clerks, dead popes etc.

I only asked about the business of arms, which you declined to explain in any way and do not mention above. On the other matters, that was someone else.

]]> By: Mike Austin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22309 Mike Austin Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:03:48 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22309 TH and Leila: You are trying to paint me as a bigot, I am not. You are trying to show me as an ignorant person, I am not. I am well aware of John Paul II. My point is that the people who do not live here do not understand what is happening here. I have many friends and neighbors who are what you have called "brown people"; they are from all over this world, but they are hard working legal citizens who pay their taxes, clean up their yards, teach their children well, speak english, and do not cause the problems that illegals bring. The reference I used of the Indian clerk was a good one, he was a very friendly person and I learned from him; all he told me was correct. What I did not understand was the timing requirements of USCIS regarding children born here and returned to their parents country, I have done my homework now and I do understand. I do not have to agree with it, it's the law. If they do it right, they are legal, and welcome. The people who come here and do not even try to assimilate, whether here legally or not, do a great deal of damage to us all. They are reminiscent of Pizarro and the Incas. TH and Leila:
You are trying to paint me as a bigot, I am not.
You are trying to show me as an ignorant person, I am not.

I am well aware of John Paul II. My point is that the people who do not live here do not understand what is happening here.

I have many friends and neighbors who are what you have called “brown people”; they are from all over this world, but they are hard working legal citizens who pay their taxes, clean up their yards, teach their children well, speak english, and do not cause the problems that illegals bring.

The reference I used of the Indian clerk was a good one, he was a very friendly person and I learned from him; all he told me was correct. What I did not understand was the timing requirements of USCIS regarding children born here and returned to their parents country, I have done my homework now and I do understand. I do not have to agree with it, it’s the law. If they do it right, they are legal, and welcome.

The people who come here and do not even try to assimilate, whether here legally or not, do a great deal of damage to us all. They are reminiscent of Pizarro and the Incas.

]]> By: Leila http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22211 Leila Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:52:55 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22211 Thank you Mike Austin, by abdicating, you confirmed everything I believed about your observations. Thank you Mike Austin, by abdicating, you confirmed everything I believed about your observations.

]]> By: anon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22210 anon Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:46:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22210 They can marry. In fact there has been a tsunami of marriages down at the courthouse since the resolution passed. Not sure if it was illegals marrying illegals, thinking that soon they might not be able to marry or illegals marrying legals , thinking that would get them one step closer to citizenship. They can marry. In fact there has been a tsunami of marriages down at the courthouse since the resolution passed. Not sure if it was illegals marrying illegals, thinking that soon they might not be able to marry or illegals marrying legals , thinking that would get them one step closer to citizenship.

]]> By: Riley, Not O'Reilly http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22203 Riley, Not O'Reilly Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:19:48 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22203 I agree that the truth must come out whatever it is. The theory I put forward isn't out of the realm of possibility, though. Also, I seem to recall something a few months ago about illegal aliens complaining that they could not legally marry here in the U.S. Something else to consider if he is indeed here illegally. Since he came to the U.S. 12 years ago, we know he didn't get amnesty in '86. I think the part of the article that is telling is "Juarez -- who refuses to disclose his residency status" Gee, I'm sure that ICE can find that out pretty easily... I agree that the truth must come out whatever it is. The theory I put forward isn’t out of the realm of possibility, though.

Also, I seem to recall something a few months ago about illegal aliens complaining that they could not legally marry here in the U.S. Something else to consider if he is indeed here illegally.

Since he came to the U.S. 12 years ago, we know he didn’t get amnesty in ‘86. I think the part of the article that is telling is “Juarez — who refuses to disclose his residency status”

Gee, I’m sure that ICE can find that out pretty easily…

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22179 Lafayette Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:09:45 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22179 redawn/ddpdrinker/Greg L I will check for any divorce in PW, when I'm there in the morning. Will post findings. redawn/ddpdrinker/Greg L
I will check for any divorce in PW, when I’m there in the morning. Will post findings.

]]> By: TH http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22162 TH Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:46:14 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22162 Mike Austin, You live in avery interesting world. In that all brown people are so well trained that they know how to use weapons and have such organization that they will take down the US military by force. Just to bring new information to your world "John Paul II doesn’t live here" because he is already dead. Please get educated and get your information from reliable sources and not just the well informed indian clerks. Mike Austin,
You live in avery interesting world. In that all brown people are so well trained that they know how to use weapons and have such organization that they will take down the US military by force.
Just to bring new information to your world “John Paul II doesn’t live here” because he is already dead.
Please get educated and get your information from reliable sources and not just the well informed indian clerks.

]]> By: Mike Austin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22119 Mike Austin Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:25:20 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22119 Regarding my very long post @ 2:20 pm... I have always been under the impression that "anchor babies" are automatically US Citizens upon being birthed inside the borders of our country. Accordinf to the story I posted, this is not true! I'd like to hear from anyone who knows that this article is factual, or is it just an opinion? I know the visitors from foreign countries think their children born here are US citizens. I was told by a hotel clerk from India that he and his wife plan their children to coincide with work visa's so as to be born in the US. Regarding my very long post @ 2:20 pm…

I have always been under the impression that “anchor babies” are automatically US Citizens upon being birthed inside the borders of our country. Accordinf to the story I posted, this is not true!
I’d like to hear from anyone who knows that this article is factual, or is it just an opinion?

I know the visitors from foreign countries think their children born here are US citizens. I was told by a hotel clerk from India that he and his wife plan their children to coincide with work visa’s so as to be born in the US.

]]> By: Mike Austin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22116 Mike Austin Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:18:10 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22116 Leila: This is the only response you will get from me on this matter, I say that so you may forget about it and get some sleep tonight. I said what I did because it is my observation, and opinion. I need not provide proof of anything,I need not explain anything to you. You don't have to agree, you don't have to read it even. I do not apologize for anything, and I do not wish to change anything about what I said! It is what it is; and it will be what it will be. I look forward to the grand finale! Leila:
This is the only response you will get from me on this matter,
I say that so you may forget about it and get some sleep tonight.
I said what I did because it is my observation, and opinion. I need not provide proof of anything,I need not explain anything to you. You don’t have to agree, you don’t have to read it even. I do not apologize for anything, and I do not wish to change anything about what I said!
It is what it is; and it will be what it will be.

I look forward to the grand finale!

]]> By: redawn http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22112 redawn Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:01:52 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22112 ddpdrinker, YOU are on the same page, this is my question. KEEP ON, I give you permission to get in touch with me thru Greg or Layfatte.Thanks! ddpdrinker,

YOU are on the same page, this is my question. KEEP ON, I give you permission to get in touch with me thru Greg or Layfatte.Thanks!

]]> By: ddpdrinker http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22110 ddpdrinker Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:56:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22110 Is his brother's name Alex or Alejandro, I wonder? Redawn and Lafayette will know what I am getting at. Redawn, you can get my number from Lafayette. Is his brother’s name Alex or Alejandro, I wonder? Redawn and Lafayette will know what I am getting at. Redawn, you can get my number from Lafayette.

]]> By: redawn http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22103 redawn Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:33:53 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22103 Riley, Not O'Reilly said on 27 Aug 2007 at 3:53 pm: To respond to your comment, we are seeking the TRUTH, whatever it may be. Riley, Not O’Reilly said on 27 Aug 2007 at 3:53 pm:

To respond to your comment, we are seeking the TRUTH, whatever it may be.

]]> By: redawn http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22100 redawn Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:22:39 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22100 ddpdrinker, Keep digging, I agree with Greg, something is fishy. Still working on it my self. More the merrier, THANKS! ddpdrinker,

Keep digging, I agree with Greg, something is fishy. Still working on it my self. More the merrier, THANKS!

]]> By: ddpdrinker http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22094 ddpdrinker Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:09:21 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22094 redawn and lafayette: LOL I pulled the license, too, and emailed Greg early this afternoon to get info to do the investigation LOL Great minds wander in the same direction. So you all have answered that question, However, how many times has he used the last name of "NAVA" that is shown also ???? I am now looking at Specially Designated Nationals and there is an organization with an Alternate Identity called Juarez Cartel - out of Mexico. Hmmmmm. redawn and lafayette: LOL I pulled the license, too, and emailed Greg early this afternoon to get info to do the investigation LOL Great minds wander in the same direction. So you all have answered that question, However, how many times has he used the last name of “NAVA” that is shown also ???? I am now looking at Specially Designated Nationals and there is an organization with an Alternate Identity called Juarez Cartel - out of Mexico. Hmmmmm.

]]> By: Riley, Not O'Reilly http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22080 Riley, Not O'Reilly Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:53:17 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22080 <blockquote>A few years ago there was an article in the Washington Post where Ricardo talked about how he left his wife and children behind in Mexico, and hoped someday to return to them. Then we have this marriage certificate which pops up in Prince William County. There may be a perfectly understandable reason for this, or we may have two different people involved here with the same name.</blockquote> or there may be a third explanation -- bigamy. Just a theory. Also, on a related topic, this week's Friday Night Video Fights champion was Genesis' "Illegal Alien." http://virginiavirtucon.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/friday-night-video-fights-week-5-results/

A few years ago there was an article in the Washington Post where Ricardo talked about how he left his wife and children behind in Mexico, and hoped someday to return to them. Then we have this marriage certificate which pops up in Prince William County. There may be a perfectly understandable reason for this, or we may have two different people involved here with the same name.

or there may be a third explanation — bigamy. Just a theory.

Also, on a related topic, this week’s Friday Night Video Fights champion was Genesis’ “Illegal Alien.”

http://virginiavirtucon.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/friday-night-video-fights-week-5-results/

]]> By: redawn http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22073 redawn Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:18:21 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22073 I would like to look into "possible name changes"....his brother Alex? I would like to know his brother's full name. I would like to look into “possible name changes”….his brother Alex? I would like to know his brother’s full name.

]]> By: Leila http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22072 Leila Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:16:57 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22072 Monticup, yes I know what circumstantial evidence is and Mike Austin didn't provide any. He took one group, MSF, and implied they are all armed because another group, totally random "south of the border" people at his shooting range, are all armed. He established no tie whatsoever between the two groups except their south-of-the-borderness, unless, again, he forgot to mention all the Spanish-speaking shooters were wearing MSF or SM tshirts or had set up targets with HSM on them or something. I am not saying that it is impossible that MSF members are armed. I am saying that Mike Austin posted things linked in a very uncompelling way that don't remotely meet even a colloquial standard of circumstantial evidence, unless language and nationality is all you need. Perhaps it is. Monticup, yes I know what circumstantial evidence is and Mike Austin didn’t provide any. He took one group, MSF, and implied they are all armed because another group, totally random “south of the border” people at his shooting range, are all armed.

He established no tie whatsoever between the two groups except their south-of-the-borderness, unless, again, he forgot to mention all the Spanish-speaking shooters were wearing MSF or SM tshirts or had set up targets with HSM on them or something. I am not saying that it is impossible that MSF members are armed. I am saying that Mike Austin posted things linked in a very uncompelling way that don’t remotely meet even a colloquial standard of circumstantial evidence, unless language and nationality is all you need. Perhaps it is.

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22070 Greg L Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:12:46 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22070 <p>This marriage certificate thing is starting to look bizarre. A few years ago there was an article in the Washington Post where Ricardo talked about how he left his wife and children behind in Mexico, and hoped someday to return to them. Then we have this marriage certificate which pops up in Prince William County. There may be a perfectly understandable reason for this, or we may have two different people involved here with the same name.</p> <p>We're going to have to dig a little bit here and find out what the truth is. Something's fishy.</p> This marriage certificate thing is starting to look bizarre. A few years ago there was an article in the Washington Post where Ricardo talked about how he left his wife and children behind in Mexico, and hoped someday to return to them. Then we have this marriage certificate which pops up in Prince William County. There may be a perfectly understandable reason for this, or we may have two different people involved here with the same name.

We’re going to have to dig a little bit here and find out what the truth is. Something’s fishy.

]]> By: redawn http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22069 redawn Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:06:24 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22069 I just want to confirm, the above is the marriage certificate. The article in the post confirmed his wife's name. They reside in Woodbridge with his brother, Alex. ( sorry, for the confusion) I just want to confirm, the above is the marriage certificate.
The article in the post confirmed his wife’s name. They reside in Woodbridge with his brother, Alex. ( sorry, for the confusion)

]]> By: Angry Blackman! http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22064 Angry Blackman! Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:22:48 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/27/is-ricardo-juarez-an-illegal-alien/#comment-22064 His status needs to looked into. I think it's time ICE is notified of this trouble maker and possible "illegal"! If he's illegal...DEPORT HIM NOW! His status needs to looked into. I think it’s time ICE is notified of this trouble maker and possible “illegal”!

If he’s illegal…DEPORT HIM NOW!

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