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Two Illegals Molest A Woman In Woodbridge

By Greg L | 28 August 2007 | Illegal Aliens, Virginia Politics | 29 Comments

Here’s a prime example of why Governor Kaine’s refusal to have the Commonwealth enter into the Section 287(g) program is so troubling: Overnight on Sunday evening, Prince William County Police arrested two illegal aliens suspected in a rape sexual assault that happened on Carter Lane in Woodbridge. One of these illegals had previously been deported, which makes his presence in the United States a felony. Since the Prince William County Adult Detention Center participates in the Section 287(g) program, and their MOU with ICE allows officers to act in cases of felony sex assault, both of these illegal aliens will be processed for deportation.

Had these individuals been arrested by the State Police and held by the Virginia Department of Corrections, the illegal alien which had previously been deported probably would be picked up by ICE. The other would likely have not, and been added to the Virgina Sex Offender Registry, and released back into the community. Here’s a real, live example of how Governor Kaine’s intransigence is endangering us all.

Also of note is how the Manassas Journal-Messenger has done such a good job of reporting this. They covered a house break-in in today’s edition, as well as a resisting arrest incident. But since this was a case of illegal aliens preying on Prince William County residents, we get silence.

UPDATE: Additional information has been released by the Prince William County Police Department, that is clearly stating that this was not a rape. Here’s the report:

On August 27, 2007, at approximately 1:12 a.m., The Prince William County Police Department investigated a sexual assault complaint in the 1600 block of Carter Lane in Woodbridge. The 18-year-old female victim from Manassas reported to police that she was walking with a 17-year-old male acquaintance from Woodbridge, when they were attacked by a group of suspects. The victims observed that they were being followed and
attempted to get into their vehicle when the suspects attacked them and prevented them from driving away. Both victims reported that during the assault the female victim was grabbed, pulled away, and thrown to the ground. The female victim reported that she was pinned to the ground and inappropriately touched. The male victim reported that he was punched by the suspects during the struggle. Both victims were able to get away without injuries and call the police. Arrested were Jose Ramirez, 18, and Porfirio Ramirez-Baca, 34, both residing at 1621 Carter Lane. Both subjects have been charged with Assault and Battery (2x), Abduction With Intent To Defile (2X). Ramirez and Ramirez-Baca were held without bond. Ramirez and Ramirez-Baca have been scheduled to appear in court on October 9, 2007, for the charges involving the 18-year-old female victim. They are pending a hearing in the Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court involving the male juvenile victim.

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  1. Mando said on 28 Aug 2007 at 1:32 pm:
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    This is par for the course in regards to MJM. Time for more emails. Let’s see if they print this during Illegal Alien Appreciation Week.

  2. Advocator said on 28 Aug 2007 at 1:45 pm:
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    Is there a link for this story or is it just in the printed version?

  3. Mando said on 28 Aug 2007 at 1:51 pm:
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    The reporting of this story by the MJM was preempted by the story on someone illegaly selling an alligator. Now there’s a story…

  4. Mando said on 28 Aug 2007 at 1:54 pm:
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    I have a feeling someone at MJM explicitly made a decision not to cover this rape in light of their little editorial. I know that’s probably a “duh” statement, but it really burns me up.

  5. BL said on 28 Aug 2007 at 2:01 pm:
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    It is about time for US Citizens to start demanding one either Americans citizens are treated as good as Illegal Aliens or Illegal Aliens start being treated like the criminals they are!

  6. mjh said on 28 Aug 2007 at 2:16 pm:
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    I couldn’t find any news story about this rape via google search. Just curious, what is the source and how did you scoop google?

  7. Greg L said on 28 Aug 2007 at 2:46 pm:
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    The source is confidential. WMAL is reporting on a sexual assault that happened in Woodbridge on the radio today that might be the same incident. In that report, they say a couple was attacked by a group of persons and the female was sexually assaulted. They don’t provide the immigration status of the two suspects, but some of the details seem to coincide.

    My source very clearly told me it was a rape, so it may be a different incident. At any rate, the story will probably get fleshed out in the mainstream media pretty soon, especially if folks start calling the MJM and asking why they’re not reporting on this.

  8. mjh said on 28 Aug 2007 at 3:02 pm:
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    I did hear the report of the two people assaulted on the WMAL stream, but I heard it to be in Prince George’s (I may have mis-heard).

    I will be keeping my ears and eyes peeled.

    Thanks for all that you do…bvbl has become a must visit on my daily round of blog visits.

  9. Rick Bentley said on 28 Aug 2007 at 3:04 pm:
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    Should we start a recall petition on Kaine at this point? I want his position on this issue to become well-known.

  10. Mando said on 28 Aug 2007 at 3:23 pm:
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    “”especially if folks start calling the MJM and asking why they’re not reporting on this”"

    Done. Everybody needs to contact MJM on this. This is a public safety issue. Too many rapes/attempted rapes have gone unreported as of late and it’s despicable not to report this for political reasons.

  11. Advocator said on 28 Aug 2007 at 3:30 pm:
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    Re: Rick Bentley post at 3:04 pm:
    “Should we start a recall petition on Kaine at this point? I want his position on this issue to become well-known.”

    Here’s the law on the subject:

    VA Code § 24.2-233. Removal of elected and certain appointed officers by courts.

    Upon petition, a circuit court may remove from office any elected officer or officer who has been appointed to fill an elective office, residing within the jurisdiction of the court:

    1. For neglect of duty, misuse of office, or incompetence in the performance of duties when that neglect of duty, misuse of office, or incompetence in the performance of duties has a material adverse effect upon the conduct of the office, …

    The petition must be signed by a number of registered voters who reside within the jurisdiction of the officer equal to ten percent of the total number of votes cast at the last election for the office that the officer holds.

    § 24.2-235. Procedure.

    A petition for the removal of an officer shall state with reasonable accuracy and detail the grounds or reasons for removal and shall be signed by the person or persons making it under penalties of perjury. As soon as the petition is filed with the court, the court shall issue a rule requiring the officer to show cause why he should not be removed from office, the rule alleging in general terms the cause or causes for such removal. The rule shall be returnable in not less than five nor more than ten days and shall be served upon the officer with a copy of the petition. Upon return of the rule duly executed, unless good cause is shown for a continuance or postponement to a later day in the term, the case shall be tried on the day named in the rule and take precedence over all other cases on the docket. If upon trial it is determined that the officer is subject to removal under the provisions of § 24.2-233, he shall be removed from office.

  12. Had to Say said on 28 Aug 2007 at 3:36 pm:
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    These good ‘ole law abiding illegals! There just here to work. Quit pcking on them.

  13. Legal2 said on 28 Aug 2007 at 4:26 pm:
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    We will NOT be renewing our subscription to MJM. Will return their notice with a letter. Let’s boycott the MJM - a supporter of boycotts.

  14. Krutis said on 28 Aug 2007 at 5:09 pm:
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    Greg L at 2:46 pm - “source is confidential”; “it happened in Woodbridge”; “they don’t provide the immigration status of the two suspects”; “I heard it was Prince George’s county”.
    Sounds like “true fact”, doesn’t it? Amazing how a rumor takes on a life of its own. Say something often enough, and it becomes “truth”. Rabblerousing and fearmongering is a lot of fun, right?

  15. Anonymous said on 28 Aug 2007 at 5:28 pm:
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    Two different cases. The sexual assault case was Sunday night/Monday moring. Two suspects, both illegal, one of whom was deported and came back into the country. The other case may or may not be related. Both cases in Woodbridge. I assume you can call the Information person from PWC and ask them for additional details.

  16. Had to Say said on 28 Aug 2007 at 10:12 pm:
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    Krutis- How do you know it’s rumor? Were you there?

  17. Krutis said on 28 Aug 2007 at 10:21 pm:
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    Had to Say - I was not there, neither were you, I guess. Greg L says “source is confidential”, which means nothing. So far I’ve read that the rape took place in about three different locations. Doesn’t sound too factual; to me anyway. - Gotta go to bed. Sweet dreams!

  18. Jae said on 29 Aug 2007 at 12:31 am:
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    I found this article in the Potomac News. Is this the same incident or a different one than the one you are speaking about?


    Even if it is not the same incident, how many more of these will it take before the illegal alien apologists realize we have a problem?

  19. Mike said on 29 Aug 2007 at 1:12 am:
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    So wait, they are not going to serve time for their crime? Let them serve their time here and then deport them once they repay society. Going free to come back another time isn’t right.

  20. Greg L said on 29 Aug 2007 at 1:28 am:
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    It’s so similar, it’s got to be the same incident. I’m actually impressed that they reported the immigration status of the suspects. Maybe that’s a case of the PWCPD dropping it’s policy of not asking illegal aliens about their status, or perhaps the MJM is recognizing that they need to report the facts, especially if they’re late to the story?

  21. mnasty said on 29 Aug 2007 at 2:16 am:
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    What’s going to happen the first time a legally armed citizen gets the chance to defend against these scum and takes one out?

    Why does anyone defend these illegals being here. I am just sick of this.
    But let’s be sure they get instate tuition. And Pre-K schooling.

    Tell Gov Kaine we have had enough.

    If a liberal state like NJ can change their policies towards illegals, VA certainly should. Enough is enough.

  22. Mando said on 29 Aug 2007 at 8:06 am:
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    I’ve found MJM’s crime reporter, Elisa Glushefski, to be receptive and quite polite with my emails about crimes I hear about/see. Kudo’s to her. I don’t think they’re all hacks at the MJM.

  23. mjh said on 29 Aug 2007 at 11:23 am:
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    I did mis-hear that it occurred in “Prince George’s”. Greg was correct and I was wrong, it was Prince Williams.

    In the future, I will be more careful to fact check myself, to avoid giving Krutis any ammunition. Not that he seems to need any.

  24. JM said on 29 Aug 2007 at 11:54 am:
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    Don’t worry about Krutis. The story has been verified and published in the PN and the MJM, so his above comments have been proven utnrue and irrelevant.

  25. Krutis said on 29 Aug 2007 at 2:23 pm:
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    For the record - My comments did not make any firm statements BECAUSE I DIDN’T HAVE THE FACTS. I agree they are most likely irelevant as are most of the other comments. However, UNTRUE is not a fitting adjective.

  26. anonymous said on 29 Aug 2007 at 4:41 pm:
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    It depends on what the definition of “is” is, doesn’t it, Krutis?

  27. Krutis said on 29 Aug 2007 at 6:44 pm:
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    Wow, never thought I’d find a “famous” Clinton quotation in this blog! So, what’s you definition, anonymous?

  28. anonymous said on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:49 am:
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    It “is” what it “is”.

  29. Anonymous said on 1 Sep 2007 at 6:48 pm:
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    And U.S. citizens have never raped or sexually assaulted people? Your targeting of non-Americans is disgusting.

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