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Protest Flops, Hilarity Ensues
By Greg L | 2 September 2007 | Illegal Aliens, Prince William County | 45 Comments
Well, Mexicanos Sin Fronteras has managed to embarrass itself again. Falling far short of their initial projections of 75,000 protesters, about 3,000 to 5,000 people — including contingents from Fairfax and Arlington Counties, DC, and even Minnesota — joined together in a disorganized rally and march at the McCoart center today that pretty much escaped the attention of anyone but the press. As far as statements go, this was pretty much a flop.
Observers at the rally saw contingents from international ANSWER there to protest U.S. policy in the middle east, and talked to some folks that were predicting that the Prince William Board of County Supervisors would soon start rounding up hispanics and putting them in concentration camps, since this is apparently how the nazis started, in their view. Another protester was loudly decrying the influence of jews on Prince William’s government. Perhaps these folks should have gotten together and hashed their position out beforehand.
Organizers were selling small American flags for protesters to wave, who apparently neglected to bring theirs from home, if they had them. The Salvadoran contingent was happy to simply wrap themselves in the El Salvadoran flag. One handmade sign denouncing the resolution passed by the Board of Supervisors on the July 10th as unconstitutional, apparently couldn’t spell the word “unconstitutional”. I’d imagine that might dilute the message somewhat.
Unity In The Community was there, but so far no reports of Unity In The Community member and House of Delegates candidate Jeanette Rishell. Maybe she’s getting a little smarter about downplaying her connections with the illegal alien lobby.
I’ll have additional reports as soon as the tapes and photos are available.
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When I went to ‘pay my water bill’ I saw one lone anglo guy out there with a sign about honk for no illegals or something to that effect. I have to hand it to him, he is a brave soul. He was vastly outnumbered, but 5,000 is pushing it.
The woman police horse brigade was on hand down at the Service Authority building. The horses were begging for their lunch. I enjoyed visiting with them, discussed horses and kept the topic away from the issue at hand.
It all looked rather harmless to me. Had they been in some of their own countries, there would have been swat teams and masked gunmen lining the sidewalks and streets.
Isn’t America great!
I saw the jerks running down there in trucks full of immigrants this afternoon. If I didnt already have plans I would have attended the rally just to see how ridiculous they were acting. I wish I would have been there. Those MSF guys are a bunch of creeps.
Josh
I believe the protesters ended up at the Fair Grounds tonight.
I can hear their speeches and lots of uproars from the crowd….wish they were speaking English. Where’s ICE when we need them….
This whole boycott has been one big joke. I have been all over the county this week, places from Wal-Mart to Potomac Mills were busy and both were full of Latinos. I am wondering how they will try to spin this to look like a win for their camp when it is obvious to everyone outside of the press that it was a massive failure.
Just like we have all said before…our economy will still keep moving without the illegals (in fact it will improve).
I will miss the boycott. It was a pleasure driving around without the additional traffic.
I have shopped in Prince William, The City of Manassas and Manassas Park and the merchant’s I purchased from- I HAD to tell them of the Boycott. ( some mom & pop stores and chains)
Let’s see how many will not go to work on October 9th. I bet that is a flop also.
Just saw Greg on Fox 5 News - during the protest today.
Channel 8 gave it about 30 seconds.
Well, I almost lost a TV over the Channel 5 news. It seems that Mr. Dolph didn’t like what Ricardo Juarez was saying. I won’t repeat what he (Mr. Dolph) said but there was losts of #$%^&*(). When RJ said he they were staying and there was nothing we could do about it…well…things were a little hot around here.
We are here to stay! As long as we have the support of our countrymen in la raza, we shall prevail.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/02/AR2007090200958.html?nav=hcmodule
“Mexico does not end at its borders.”–President Felipe Calderon
UnMasMexican,
It might be wise to heed the words of Japanese Admiral Yamamoto: “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
There is a lesson there, to be learned. I advise you to read it carefully, very very carefully, especially when making thinly veiled threats.
Of course the MJM is calling it a success. I want to vomit after reading tripe like this:
By KIPP HANLEY
jhanley@potomacnews.com
Monday, September 3, 2007
“Si se puede! Si se puede!”
That’s what motorists up and down Prince William Parkway heard Sunday at the pro-immigration rally and march.
The rough English translation to the Spanish statement is “Yes, we can,” and it was echoed over and over by the several thousand people gathered at the Sean T. Connaughton Community Plaza to protest the anti-illegal immigration resolution passed by the Prince William County Board of Supervisors.
The resolution could, among other things, deny county services to illegal immigrants if fully approved this month. After passing the resolution in July, the supervisors directed county staff to determine which county services could be denied to illegal immigrants.
While the day was one of protest, it was also one without animosity. Signs, smiles and cheers were everywhere. Vendors with push carts were selling frozen treats to families, volunteers were handing out bottled water and social activists and musicians were inspiring the crowd with speeches and song.
As the crowd swelled, both American flags and protest signs could be seen dotting the landscape. The signs said everything from “Don’t Divide Our Families” to “Rescind the Resolution” to “We Are All One Community.” Volunteers sported bright orange and green shirts with the statement: “Stop Racism, Rescind Anti-Immigration Resolution.”
Woodbridge resident Victoria Hernandez was one of many in attendance with their families. She moved from El Salvador to the United States 16 years ago before starting a family.
Both she and her 15-year-old daughter Karen were outraged at what the county is contemplating in regards to the illegal immigration problem.
“In school everybody asks, ‘why do we learn history?’ and the answer is so history won’t repeat itself,” said Karen, who attends Osbourn Park High School. “[But] it’s repeating itself right now. It happened with the African-Americans a couple years back. It’s not right how they are doing this. They should stop racism and discrimination. God made us all equal.”
Samuel Pineda, 37, of Manassas Park, was one of the many volunteers assisting those taking buses to the event. Pineda, who works for a party goods rental company, said the immigrant population has been erroneously criticized as one which doesn’t pay taxes.
Depending on the severity of the new policy, Pineda said it’s possible that many families he knows could be separated when they go to a public place because of their parents’ legal status. And that’s not something he wants to see happen.
The rally started at 3 p.m. and roughly an hour later, those gathered began an organized march down Prince William Parkway to the intersection at Old Bridge Road. The people walked four and five wide on the sidewalk and stretched, at one point, the entire length of the mile-long route.
Many motorists honked and waved as they zipped past the construction cones on the parkway, eliciting waves of cheers up and down the sidewalks.
While the crowd was overwhelmingly Hispanic, there were others showing solidarity for the Hispanic population. One such person was 18-year-old Baltimore resident Nick Powell, who volunteers for the United Workers Association.
“No human being should be labeled as illegal,” said Powell, who came down from Maryland with a few supporters on a bus.
Father Bob Menard of St. Francis of Assisi Parish in Triangle was one of the many speakers during the four-hour-long rally. His message to the supervisors was simple.
“We are constituents of the county, we are constituents of the United States, we are constituents of the one America and we are constituents of the human family,” Menard said. “And we are here to respond.”
The rally came near the end of a weeklong boycott of Prince William County stores that weren’t outwardly supporting all immigrants. A few of the green signs that pledged their support for the immigrant community could be seen sprinkled in the crowd on Sunday.
While Woodbridge Workers Committee spokesperson Nancy Lyall recently called the boycott a success, it remains to be seen just how effective either the boycott or rally will be when it comes time for the county to put teeth in its resolution.
“We’ll cross our fingers and hope for the best,” Pineda said.
Unmasmexican, we don’t have any objections that you’re here to stay, we just want you to obey American laws. Pay your fair share of SS, medicare, federal and state taxes, file an honest tax return, follow occupancy regulations, apply for food stamps only if you’re legally eligible and respect America’s right to enforce her laws.
The rally was successful in that it gave the aging hippies (Fr. Bob, Nancy Lyall, etc) a venue; same old symbolism over substance. They and the MJM continue to lie about what the resolution does and they incite fear and discontent (at the very least).
Sals,
I have objections to illegal aliens being here. They have broken the law and they need to be prosecuted just like everyone else who breaks the law. Since when did we become a country of lawlessness? When they break the law to enter the country what makes you think they will obey all the other laws? I’ve personally seen them break dozens of laws in my own neighborhood. They are a dangerous presence and they need to be deported. Your comment is also a slap in the face to everyone who has come here legally. My husband would tell you that to your face.
The law is simple and clear…if you’re legal, welcome, if not, you are a criminal and should be in fear of deportation and go home.
When this resolution passes on September 18th, it should strike a nerve and put a bit of fear in those who are illegal. Just like any criminal feels fear when the police car is behind them, illegal immigrants should feel that also.
The rally was the second and third story on the news yesterday so it was not much of a success.
UnMasmexican is either an illegal who has not interest in becoming an U.S. Citizen or he’s just another useless troll
Illegals can hit the road and make sure unmasmexican goes right along with them.
Josh
From Lowell over at Raising Kaine. If you’re pissed off about illegal immigration, take note, it isn’t the dems who are the problem. Republican Double Speak is the problem.
Republicans, $$$, and Illegal Immigration Hypocrisy (+)
by: Lowell
Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 08:58:13 AM EDT
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(The next time you hear Republicans claiming any credibility on this issue, just ignore them. They’re full of it. - promoted by Lowell)
According to NPR, of the 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States today, “[m]ore than half work in construction, manufacturing or leisure and hospitality.”
Now, let’s look at where the money from those industries went in 2006:
CONSTRUCTION
Republicans: $38,129,511
Democrats: $16,154,953
That’s 70% to Republicans, 30% to Democrats
MANUFACTURING
Food Products Manufacturing
Republicans: $1,511,309
Democrats: $621,898
That’s 71% to Republicans, 29% to Democrats
Chemical & Related Manufacturing
Republicans: $4,570,892
Democrats: $1,379,789
That’s 75% to Republicans, 25% to Democrats
Pharmaceutical Manufacturing
Republicans: $7,731,388
Democrats: $3,158,977
That’s 70% to Republicans, 30% to Democrats
LEISURE AND HOSPITALITY
Restaurants & Bars
Republicans: $5,891,298
Democrats: $2,084,281
That’s 73% to Republicans, 26% to Democrats
Getting the picture? That’s right, the industries that are the biggest employers of illegal immigrants in this country are also heavy donors to Republicans. Why do Republicans take money from industries that “break the law,” as they like to claim? To throw their own idiotic phrase right back at them, “what part of ‘illegal’ don’t Republicans understand?”
Immigration :: Lowell :: Republicans, $$$, and Illegal Immigration Hypocrisy
Latinos Join in Protest In N.Va.
Thousands Denounce Immigration Measure At Prince William Rally
By Bill Turque
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 3, 2007; B01
Carrying American flags and chanting “S?, se puede” (”Yes, we can”), several thousand Latinos rallied at the seat of Prince William County government yesterday to denounce the Board of Supervisors’ plan to curb services to illegal immigrants.
Protesters from as far as Minnesota converged on the Sean T. Connaughton Community Plaza for speeches and a two-mile march, organized by Mexicans Without Borders and other immigrant advocacy groups.
“We come in peace,” said Karla Makris, 26, a paralegal born in Nicaragua. “We’re not stealing. We’re not criminals.”
On July 10, the Prince William board thrust the county into the middle of the Northern Virginia immigration debate, adopting a resolution directing officials to determine which government services can be lawfully withheld from anyone in the country illegally.
The measure also authorizes Prince William police to ask about residency status if they have probable cause to believe that an individual is in the country illegally. Exactly what constitutes probable cause, and how legal residency would be verified, is still under review by the police.
The county’s Latino community responded with a week-long economic boycott, concluding this weekend, targeting businesses deemed hostile to immigrants.
Organizers also announced plans for an Oct. 9 work stoppage in Prince William.
The message at yesterday’s late-afternoon protest was that immigrants want what they said everyone else wants, to be left alone to work and raise their families.
“We have come to respond to the ill-conceived and harmful actions to the county, and to say that is wrong,” said the Rev. Bob Menard of St. Francis of Assisi Parish in Triangle.
“Everybody is equal here,” said Pedro Marquez, 21, a construction worker. “Everybody is here to do work. Our kids are in school. Our parents are working. It’s messed up. People are trying to bring Hispanic culture down.”
Protesters marched along Prince William Parkway past Prince William County Republican headquarters and a large campaign sign for board Chairman Corey A. Stewart (R-At Large), a leading advocate of the July resolution. One group carried a large plaster effigy of Stewart.
The protesters had support from non-Latino Northern Virginians who marched along with them and some of whom identified with the Latino struggle. “I’m Irish, and I’m from a family of immigrants,” said Sissi Curtin of Fairfax County, who said her forebears faced similar bigotry.
“It’s the same old people. You know that, and I know that.”
Prince William police declined to offer an estimate of the turnout, which informal estimates placed at 5,000 to 7,000.
There were no arrests, and the only major incident along the march route was an engine fire in a pickup, which sent a brief flutter of concern through the crowd as smoke wafted through the air.
It has been difficult to gauge the effectiveness of the boycott, although it seems to have had only a marginal impact on the national chain stores that are its chief targets. Latino customers continue to patronize such businesses as Wal-Mart and Giant and fast-food restaurants.
What is easier to see is that the action has both energized and split Prince William’s Latino community. Mexicans Without Borders favors such economic measures as the boycott to push back, and other business leaders seek negotiations with county leaders.
The immigration issue has also driven a wedge between the region’s local governments. The Loudoun County Board of Supervisors recently passed a similar, if less exact, version of the Prince William measure. It directs county officials to study which services might be legitimately denied to illegal immigrants and to explore ways to cut off business with companies that hire undocumented workers.
Fairfax County has resisted entreaties from Prince William leaders to follow their example. Fairfax County Board of Supervisors Chairman Gerald E. Connolly (D) has said that it is impractical and constitutionally questionable for local governments to undertake immigration enforcement. He said he wants the county to focus on “outcomes and behavior,” rather than immigration status, by cracking down on boarding houses and other code violations that can degrade the quality of life in neighborhoods.
The resolution passed. It is just needs to be implemented. For police that should happen in a couple of days. For County services, they have another 30 days.
ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE JUST THAT, ILLEGAL. THEY ARE CRIMINALS AND NEED TO BE PROSECUTED. HOW DARE THEY LIKEN THEMSELVES TO LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. SHAME ON THEM. GO BACK TO YOU COUNTRY YOU HAVE BROKEN OUR LAWS AND INVADED OUR LAND. YOU HAVE RAPED OUR COMMUNITY. YOU WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE. YOU WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR ILLEGAL ACTS.
Patty, I’m sorry you find my comment so objectionable. You are so right, it is a slap in the face to anyone who goes through the process legally. That is part of the reason why we have to absolutely refuse any kind of amnesty. I should have said “I have no objection…” instead of saying “we”.
While I do get very offended and angry when hordes of people ignore our sovereignty and arrogantly demand rights that they don’t have while playing the victim and refusing to take responsibility for the consequences of their own behavior, I’m not a rigid “round them all up and send them back” kind of person. As much as I like hearing about immigration raids and fear that not enough is being done, I’m not in favor of deporting 12-20 million illegals. We do need to stop the flow and stop the incentives.
Also, because of the way he wrote UnMasMexican I even wondered if he was a US citizen trying to get a rise out of someone. I wasn’t going to feed into it.
i honestly would agree,
rounding them all up and shipping them home would be most unrealistic at this point. However the more economical way to ensure they get back to where they came from is to cut off their economic lifeline..the businesses that hire the illegals. Punish them and make it severe. Then they’ll have no choice but to go back themselves and save the govt. the work. Arizona is doing this and it starts January 1st. It’s already working, they are leaving phoenix and all over arizona in droves…
No work, no illegal immigration.
Anonymous @ 6:45 is Sals.
Hey, “unmasmexican”, you’re soon to become “unLESSmexican”. Your arrogant attitude typifies the crap that is slung by MSF. Take your coward marxist socialist amigos and return to your homeland and FIX it.
Dolph offered: It might be wise to heed the words of Japanese Admiral Yamamoto: “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
Whoa! Synchronicity. I thought of the same thing!
The giant needs to wake up though, and quickly!
I heard a VERY good suggestion on WMAL this am : Charge the Mexican Government for the deporation in hopes that it would give them incentives to control the border on their end too.
Am I the only one who considers the Mexican President’ statement a direct threat?
UnMasMexican bloviated:
“Mexico does not end at its borders.”–President Felipe Calderon
It will. Eventually.
No, OBIT, you are not the only one who considers his statement a direct threat. Such audacity!!! Now we know where the illegals get it from. He is going to “pressure” the US to change their immigration laws? I was just waiting on our blogmaster to put something separate up on what was in WAPO today.
He “boasted” that Mexican consulates in the US have been buttressed to protect the rights of millions of Mexicans living here illegally. Now, if someone from the US went to Mexico and broke the law - do you think they would listen to the American consulate and allow them to protect the US citizen? I don’t think so.
es_la_ley,
High-5! Great minds and all that. First thing I thought of when I read that.
OBIT,
I thought the same thing. Definitely a threat. To me, his mouth-flashing just lost him 31 million bucks in foreign aid.
do the Mexicans forget the fact that for three hundred years they were a Spanish colony? They had borders then, they have borders now.
We have borders and you are here un-invited. If I were to enter your living room and say “I am not leaving”, I am sure you would be slightly upset with me. You are in my living room, un-invited. Please go back to your country and enter mine legally.
VA-Magoo,
It is utter defiance. Do you know in some instances of someone (guest) coming to your home and not wanting to leave, youhave to get an order from the court. Let me see if I can find the article.
Va-Magoo,
here is the article:
http://www.rachaelrayshow.com/?q=nanny-nightmare
I think that nanny and I would have problems…even though they may stay, they do have to follow the rules of the house (sort of like rules of the country) and they could have made the house so unlivable for her she would leave. play some practical jokes and have all kinds of fun with her, move her to the garage or something.
Josh,
Hah! Hah! I agree, I JOKE around and tell my husband, watch out- Mr.Sandman is a powerful man…no one can escape him (everyone has to sleep sometime) - no threats- just joking
personally I like the shaving cream in the palm of the hand joke
My favorite is the one a friend of mine pulled many, many years ago on her husband. She filled the showerhead with Jello powder…RED Jello. He was an attorney and had to go into court that day…with a most interesting dye job.
AWCheney,
You have me belly laughing so hard. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard, I really do think! I am a practical joker myself, now that is clever! I am just laughing….
AWCheney,
Not to mention that I NEED a really good laugh right now. My dog is staying overnight at the vet and we may loose her. We just got back from the vet about 45 mins. ago….
Sorry to hear that redawn. We lost a couple of pets in the past few years…a dog to cancer and a cat to a congenital heart defect, only a year apart. I feel your pain.
AW
AW,
Thank you and take care~
I am sorry to hear that! We are hoping for the best