Comments on: MS-13 Offshoot In Manassas http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Tue, 22 May 2012 05:22:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23901 Lafayette Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:28:49 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23901 FSM I too am grateful that more people are getting involved. I think the number of folks becoming active is on the steady rise, with each any every passing day. This is how change will happen. It's really not that hard to pick up the phone and call to report instances. And for those of you out there that might not want to call or report things. Contact HSM, we will HELP!!!!!!!! Things are looking better with each passing day. FSM
I too am grateful that more people are getting involved. I think the number of folks becoming active is on the steady rise, with each any every passing day. This is how change will happen. It’s really not that hard to pick up the phone and call to report instances. And for those of you out there that might not want to call or report things. Contact HSM, we will HELP!!!!!!!!
Things are looking better with each passing day.

]]> By: Frustrated in Sudley Manor http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23872 Frustrated in Sudley Manor Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:42:28 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23872 We had a townhouse in my neighborhood in Sudley Manor hit about a year ago with graffitti including MS-13 signage, done in paint, all over the brick on an end unit. It took weeks of hard work to get it cleaned off. About two or three years ago, I also saw MS-13 graffiti done on wooden privacy fences as well. I'm really grateful more and more good people in Manassas are speaking up and fighting back! We had a townhouse in my neighborhood in Sudley Manor hit about a year ago with graffitti including MS-13 signage, done in paint, all over the brick on an end unit. It took weeks of hard work to get it cleaned off. About two or three years ago, I also saw MS-13 graffiti done on wooden privacy fences as well. I’m really grateful more and more good people in Manassas are speaking up and fighting back!

]]> By: Darkmage http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23796 Darkmage Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:02:15 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23796 The main website for Blue Ridge Arsenal is www.blueridgearsenal.com The course description is here: http://www.blueridgearsenal.com/training.htm#concealed If you're interested, drop them an email at blueridgetraining@gmail.com The main website for Blue Ridge Arsenal is www.blueridgearsenal.com

The course description is here:
http://www.blueridgearsenal.com/training.htm#concealed

If you’re interested, drop them an email at blueridgetraining@gmail.com

]]> By: Darkmage http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23795 Darkmage Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:56:39 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23795 I used to shoot at Shooter's Paradise regularly until the fire as well. If you wish CCW training before they re-open (assuming they ever do), then you probably should go ask at Blue Ridge Arsenal near the rt 28/50 interchange. They hold classes monthly. Normally, I would recommend Shooter's Paradise, but alas... I used to shoot at Shooter’s Paradise regularly until the fire as well.

If you wish CCW training before they re-open (assuming they ever do), then you probably should go ask at Blue Ridge Arsenal near the rt 28/50 interchange. They hold classes monthly.

Normally, I would recommend Shooter’s Paradise, but alas…

]]> By: dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23791 dolph Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:33:44 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23791 Lafayette, I would contact the Prince William County Schools for gang info. They will speak at community functions last time I was at one of their talks. The worst they can tell you is no. Lafayette,

I would contact the Prince William County Schools for gang info. They will speak at community functions last time I was at one of their talks.

The worst they can tell you is no.

]]> By: JM http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23754 JM Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:27:39 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23754 Another recent incident of gang graffiti, this one in my former neighborhood. From the Manassas Park Police press release: Date of Release: 090407 Type of Offense: Destruction of Property Dates of Occurrence: 090207 1144 Location: 300 Block Moseby Court Vehicles Involved: Suspects: Arrests: Gang graffiti in black marker written on NOVEC green electrical box. Damage: $50 Frankly, I am shocked that MPPD admitted that this occured at all. It has been the official position of MP that there are no problems associated with illegal aliens or gangs. Another recent incident of gang graffiti, this one in my former neighborhood. From the Manassas Park Police press release:

Date of Release: 090407

Type of Offense: Destruction of Property

Dates of Occurrence: 090207 1144

Location: 300 Block Moseby Court

Vehicles Involved:

Suspects:

Arrests:

Gang graffiti in black marker written on NOVEC green electrical box. Damage: $50

Frankly, I am shocked that MPPD admitted that this occured at all. It has been the official position of MP that there are no problems associated with illegal aliens or gangs.

]]> By: John Light http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23748 John Light Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:41:10 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23748 Lafayette: Well, I know SOME who realize it but let me tell you, come November, a STRONG message WILL be sent to those whose heads are in the sand!!! Lafayette: Well, I know SOME who realize it but let me tell you, come November, a STRONG message WILL be sent to those whose heads are in the sand!!!

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23746 Lafayette Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:36:59 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23746 JL Excellent idea!!! Thank you. Do Fairfax County officials realize that their citizen's aren't in the denial they seem to be in? You sure aren't. JL
Excellent idea!!! Thank you. Do Fairfax County officials realize that their citizen’s aren’t in the denial they seem to be in? You sure aren’t.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23745 Lafayette Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:33:53 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23745 One gentleman spoke at 2pm yesterday, told of twelve "visitors" at PW Hospital and I'm sure some were illegal. He spoke of a dozen visitors in the room until 11pm, and some still stayed til 3am. I can't imagine this is while trying to get well. I remember being in the PWH, at about age 6, they sure ran my parents out of there each and every night promptly at 8pm. I guess the Hospitals don't want to upset their "free patients". One gentleman spoke at 2pm yesterday, told of twelve “visitors” at PW Hospital and I’m sure some were illegal. He spoke of a dozen visitors in the room until 11pm, and some still stayed til 3am. I can’t imagine this is while trying to get well. I remember being in the PWH, at about age 6, they sure ran my parents out of there each and every night promptly at 8pm. I guess the Hospitals don’t want to upset their “free patients”.

]]> By: John Light http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23744 John Light Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:30:47 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23744 Lafayette: Thank you. You MAY be right, but what MIGHT ALSO be good is if we create a tri-fold to hand out at the HSM meetings to better educate the members/community at large. It could include brief bio of gangs, names of key "players", and telephone numbers for the various agencies who are SUPPOSED to be protecting us, not to mention e-mail addresses and phone numbers of elected officials. Lafayette: Thank you. You MAY be right, but what MIGHT ALSO be good is if we create a tri-fold to hand out at the HSM meetings to better educate the members/community at large. It could include brief bio of gangs, names of key “players”, and telephone numbers for the various agencies who are SUPPOSED to be protecting us, not to mention e-mail addresses and phone numbers of elected officials.

]]> By: josh http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23743 josh Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:26:18 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23743 I had a similar issue, my daughter was extremely ill. She went to potomac hospital and got triaged behind a group of illegals looking for health care. The hospital didnt help, they converted her temperature incorrectly and left her to lay out in the waiting room forever. After contacting Fort Belvoir admitted her however immediately since she was so ill and she ended up staying overnight. the point is (regardless of potomac hospital being unable to do simple math) is that if the illegals had not been there we would have been able to see a doctor right away. I had a similar issue, my daughter was extremely ill. She went to potomac hospital and got triaged behind a group of illegals looking for health care. The hospital didnt help, they converted her temperature incorrectly and left her to lay out in the waiting room forever.

After contacting Fort Belvoir admitted her however immediately since she was so ill and she ended up staying overnight.

the point is (regardless of potomac hospital being unable to do simple math) is that if the illegals had not been there we would have been able to see a doctor right away.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23742 Lafayette Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:26:04 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23742 JL Good idea. Seems to me the PWPD, would have preventive info like this available to educate the public. I'm pretty sure they don't though. Surprised?-I didn't think so. JL
Good idea. Seems to me the PWPD, would have preventive info like this available to educate the public. I’m pretty sure they don’t though. Surprised?-I didn’t think so.

]]> By: John Light http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23741 John Light Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:06:51 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23741 Greg, might be a good idea to have a page with acronyms and definitions - a short write up of the various groups that are out there (i.e. "SUR-13 = an offshoot of...") that way for any newcomers to this website, they will know what we are talking about. Greg, might be a good idea to have a page with acronyms and definitions - a short write up of the various groups that are out there (i.e. “SUR-13 = an offshoot of…”) that way for any newcomers to this website, they will know what we are talking about.

]]> By: manassascityresident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23739 manassascityresident Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:02:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23739 Will do! Will do!

]]> By: manassascityresident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23738 manassascityresident Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:00:51 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23738 Thanks so much for the update, Lafayette! I appreciate the info. Thanks so much for the update, Lafayette! I appreciate the info.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23736 Lafayette Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:58:05 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23736 manasscityresident Please contact Greg L, ask him to give you my email and home phone number. We need to talk, and I look forward to speaking with you. I'm always happy to spread the word here. However, I think we both know from Beth(?), we are on the exact same page. Trying to get a neighborhood meeting together, and would certainly welcome residents from both cities. manasscityresident
Please contact Greg L, ask him to give you my email and home phone number. We need to talk, and I look forward to speaking with you. I’m always happy to spread the word here. However, I think we both know from Beth(?), we are on the exact same page. Trying to get a neighborhood meeting together, and would certainly welcome residents from both cities.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23735 Lafayette Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:53:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23735 manassascityresident I think they both went very well. A handful of people crying about the resolution, about 10 in support, and thanking the the PWCBOS, extended their support. That was at 2pm. Then at 7:30, about 10 of us spoke, most in favor, a couple complaints here and their about resolution. Nothing really to talk about. Of course, I expressed my sincere thanks, and reminded them that we are the legal citizens, that go to polls and elect them, and thanks for represting us, the deserving. Don't remember exact words.I also told them the KKK is NOT WELCOME IN OUR COMMUNITY!!!!! I think you have the idea though. BTW-The PWCBOS meetings are available online to listen to. You, can also check out a copy from the Library on Mathis Ave. These are both great ways to spread the word to those that don't have cable, and live outside of PWC. I think we should be able to watch all 3 jurisdictions on the cable. Afterall, the two cities are in the county, and they both use our courts and jail. manassascityresident
I think they both went very well. A handful of people crying about the resolution, about 10 in support, and thanking the the PWCBOS, extended their support. That was at 2pm.
Then at 7:30, about 10 of us spoke, most in favor, a couple complaints here and their about resolution. Nothing really to talk about. Of course, I expressed my sincere thanks, and reminded them that we are the legal citizens, that go to polls and elect them, and thanks for represting us, the deserving. Don’t remember exact words.I also told them the KKK is NOT WELCOME IN OUR COMMUNITY!!!!! I think you have the idea though.
BTW-The PWCBOS meetings are available online to listen to. You, can also check out a copy from the Library on Mathis Ave. These are both great ways to spread the word to those that don’t have cable, and live outside of PWC. I think we should be able to watch all 3 jurisdictions on the cable. Afterall, the two cities are in the county, and they both use our courts and jail.

]]> By: manassascityresident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23733 manassascityresident Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:40:39 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23733 Lafayette - How did the meetings go yesterday? I'm sorry that I was not able to attend. Lafayette -
How did the meetings go yesterday? I’m sorry that I was not able to attend.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23732 Lafayette Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:23:04 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23732 Ari You are exactly right here. I just read in the Journal Mess, 72,000 students in PWC, second largest only to Fairfax of course. I sure would like to know of those 72,000 students, how many students are illegal. How many of them are "anchor babies" and how many of their parents are here illegally. All The graffiti has been removed from the pole. Thanks, to the MANY parties who took part in this swift action. Patty, showed the picture at 2pm citizens time, and several of us spoke about it. I went back at 7:30, and let the PWCBOS to report graffiti is now gone, and several other concerns, and of course thank them for the resolution. I don't want this kind stuff anywhere, and certainly not in my native neighborhood where my child walks to school. Please report this sorts of findings to the police. We must send a strong message that we will NOT tolerate any criminal activity in our community and county. Ari
You are exactly right here. I just read in the Journal Mess, 72,000 students in PWC, second largest only to Fairfax of course. I sure would like to know of those 72,000 students, how many students are illegal. How many of them are “anchor babies” and how many of their parents are here illegally.
All
The graffiti has been removed from the pole. Thanks, to the MANY parties who took part in this swift action. Patty, showed the picture at 2pm citizens time, and several of us spoke about it. I went back at 7:30, and let the PWCBOS to report graffiti is now gone, and several other concerns, and of course thank them for the resolution. I don’t want this kind stuff anywhere, and certainly not in my native neighborhood where my child walks to school.
Please report this sorts of findings to the police. We must send a strong message that we will NOT tolerate any criminal activity in our community and county.

]]> By: Bryanna http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23721 Bryanna Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:14:12 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/03/ms-13-offshoot-in-manassas/#comment-23721 I'm at Potomac Mills Mall over the weekend. Someone from mall security had his radio up pretty loudly. I hear someone say "MS-13 Gang members are in here, I recognize them from a prior incident." My friend, a diabetic is taken to the emergency room by ambulance to Potomac Hospital, it's a Sunday at 7:00 p.m., the waiting area is completely full, almost everyone is speaking spanish. Groups of of hispanics gathered outside the doors smoking cigarettes. Hospital emergency rooms are not intended to be health care clinic's for the poor. Prince William students SAT scores rated BELOW the National average. In the last 5 years we've gone from one of the best school systems to one of the worst. Non-speaking immigrant aliens have increased steadily over the last 5 years. I've had enough. Build the borders, arrest all the illegals and put them on a plane back to wherever they came from. 40 a month..while 80 new ones arrive, isn't good enough. I'm fed up. Public safety, schools and hospitals are for Americans, and not meant to be a "free ride" for illegals. Illegal is Illegal. Go home, you're not wanted here! If it takes a Revolution, then bring it on.....lets roll. I’m at Potomac Mills Mall over the weekend. Someone from mall security had his radio up pretty loudly. I hear someone say “MS-13 Gang members are in here, I recognize them from a prior incident.”

My friend, a diabetic is taken to the emergency room by ambulance to Potomac Hospital, it’s a Sunday at 7:00 p.m., the waiting area is completely full, almost everyone is speaking spanish. Groups of of hispanics gathered outside the doors smoking cigarettes. Hospital emergency rooms are not intended to be health care clinic’s for the poor.

Prince William students SAT scores rated BELOW the National average. In the last 5 years we’ve gone from one of the best school systems to one of the worst. Non-speaking immigrant aliens have increased steadily over the last 5 years.

I’ve had enough. Build the borders, arrest all the illegals and put them on a plane back to wherever they came from. 40 a month..while 80 new ones arrive, isn’t good enough. I’m fed up. Public safety, schools and hospitals are for Americans, and not meant to be a “free ride” for illegals. Illegal is Illegal. Go home, you’re not wanted here!

If it takes a Revolution, then bring it on…..lets roll.

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