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	<title>Comments on: Rishell&#8217;s Lobbyist Letter</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/</link>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23917</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23917</guid>
		<description>Matt,

While we have disagreed in the past, it has always been about issues. I must say that if there were more intellectually honest Dems out there, such as yourself, Republicans would be having a much tougher time than they are already having. 

I have to wonder if Rishell's "epiphany" is a genuine acknowledgment that illegal immigration must be dealth with, for the best interest of the 50th, or if she has simply admitted that she must "hold her nose" and say what the voters want to hear. Considering her past efforts on behalf of MSF and WWC, I am more inclined to believe the latter.


Thanks for your insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>While we have disagreed in the past, it has always been about issues. I must say that if there were more intellectually honest Dems out there, such as yourself, Republicans would be having a much tougher time than they are already having. </p>
<p>I have to wonder if Rishell&#8217;s &#8220;epiphany&#8221; is a genuine acknowledgment that illegal immigration must be dealth with, for the best interest of the 50th, or if she has simply admitted that she must &#8220;hold her nose&#8221; and say what the voters want to hear. Considering her past efforts on behalf of MSF and WWC, I am more inclined to believe the latter.</p>
<p>Thanks for your insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23898</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23898</guid>
		<description>Batson:

I'm not defending, promoting, or speaking for Jeanette on anything; I'm not involved in the campaign this year, and frankly I have disagreed with her about illegal immigration from the get go. Unfortunately, not living in the 50th or being involved in her or any other Democrat's campaign this year, I cannot speak about what she is doing.

She and I did speak about 2 weeks ago and it seemed as if she has had an epihany on this issue; I hope so. I think she realizes that everything I told her last year, in terms of this being the dominant issue and to ignore it was at her own peril, was correct. I think she listened to Richmond way too much; DPVA wants to ignore this completely because they are either too weak or too stupid to stand up for what is right. 

I honestly believe that if Jeanette had been much stronger on this issue she likely would have won last year.

When we spoke, she seemed much more willing to go farther that she did last year. That would only benefit her. I don't know for sure if she is indeed attacking Miller as a do-nothing on illegal immigration; that would be a big mistake. I have publicly applauded Jackson on the bills he introduced last session. He has been very gutsy on this issue and has led many other Delegates on the path that they were not willing to travel.

I certainly don't know what was said in the letter to the lobbyists; I can't believe her campaign would make such a collosal error in fudging the numbers/trends in the Manassas precincts. I would love to see the letter if someone has a copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batson:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending, promoting, or speaking for Jeanette on anything; I&#8217;m not involved in the campaign this year, and frankly I have disagreed with her about illegal immigration from the get go. Unfortunately, not living in the 50th or being involved in her or any other Democrat&#8217;s campaign this year, I cannot speak about what she is doing.</p>
<p>She and I did speak about 2 weeks ago and it seemed as if she has had an epihany on this issue; I hope so. I think she realizes that everything I told her last year, in terms of this being the dominant issue and to ignore it was at her own peril, was correct. I think she listened to Richmond way too much; DPVA wants to ignore this completely because they are either too weak or too stupid to stand up for what is right. </p>
<p>I honestly believe that if Jeanette had been much stronger on this issue she likely would have won last year.</p>
<p>When we spoke, she seemed much more willing to go farther that she did last year. That would only benefit her. I don&#8217;t know for sure if she is indeed attacking Miller as a do-nothing on illegal immigration; that would be a big mistake. I have publicly applauded Jackson on the bills he introduced last session. He has been very gutsy on this issue and has led many other Delegates on the path that they were not willing to travel.</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t know what was said in the letter to the lobbyists; I can&#8217;t believe her campaign would make such a collosal error in fudging the numbers/trends in the Manassas precincts. I would love to see the letter if someone has a copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23894</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23894</guid>
		<description>"She did this at a “Latin Festival” which actually took alot of guts on her part and most other candidates would fear being labeled a sympathizer to be even seen there…"

I would classify someone who raised funds for Mexicans Without Borders and the Woodbridge Workers Committee an illegal alien sympathizer. I would classify someone who spoke before Manassas City Council in opposition to their efforts to combat the residential overcrowding that is a result of illegal immigration, an illegal alien sympathizer. I would classify someone who opposes participation in the 287g program, which deals with those who commit rapes, murders and other felonies an illegal alien sympathizer

You say she has "good ideas" about how to combat illegal immigration. First, her idea about going after employers would be immediately challenged and deemed "unconstitutional". Her idea about a "livability court" would be challenged and found "unconstitutional".  She knows this. She's counting on the fact that you do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She did this at a “Latin Festival” which actually took alot of guts on her part and most other candidates would fear being labeled a sympathizer to be even seen there…&#8221;</p>
<p>I would classify someone who raised funds for Mexicans Without Borders and the Woodbridge Workers Committee an illegal alien sympathizer. I would classify someone who spoke before Manassas City Council in opposition to their efforts to combat the residential overcrowding that is a result of illegal immigration, an illegal alien sympathizer. I would classify someone who opposes participation in the 287g program, which deals with those who commit rapes, murders and other felonies an illegal alien sympathizer</p>
<p>You say she has &#8220;good ideas&#8221; about how to combat illegal immigration. First, her idea about going after employers would be immediately challenged and deemed &#8220;unconstitutional&#8221;. Her idea about a &#8220;livability court&#8221; would be challenged and found &#8220;unconstitutional&#8221;.  She knows this. She&#8217;s counting on the fact that you do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23889</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23889</guid>
		<description>Fairness in Media,  

1.  Partisan politics/business as usual - Rishell is as partisan as you could possibly find.  She puts "democrat for delegate" all over her literature, she contributed money to the opponent of Harry Parrish.  Then starts using Harry's name when she campaigned.  Then, as I read in this post she slams the republicans in Richmond with some pretty nasty words.  She then has the nerve to go on and say that she is the one who can work across the isle to get things done?    PLEASE,  she is a liar, pure and simple.

2.  "Look at the entire candidate. " Sure Rishell is a lot older than Miller, but just look at the experience of each candidate and what each has done for thier community.  Miller has been far more involved in the main stream of our community.  I had never even heard of her name before she decided to run for delegate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairness in Media,  </p>
<p>1.  Partisan politics/business as usual - Rishell is as partisan as you could possibly find.  She puts &#8220;democrat for delegate&#8221; all over her literature, she contributed money to the opponent of Harry Parrish.  Then starts using Harry&#8217;s name when she campaigned.  Then, as I read in this post she slams the republicans in Richmond with some pretty nasty words.  She then has the nerve to go on and say that she is the one who can work across the isle to get things done?    PLEASE,  she is a liar, pure and simple.</p>
<p>2.  &#8220;Look at the entire candidate. &#8221; Sure Rishell is a lot older than Miller, but just look at the experience of each candidate and what each has done for thier community.  Miller has been far more involved in the main stream of our community.  I had never even heard of her name before she decided to run for delegate.</p>
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		<title>By: Fairness in Media</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23874</link>
		<dc:creator>Fairness in Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23874</guid>
		<description>Too much of what is said about local politics transcends down from the "business as usual" partisan politics of the big league Republican and Democratic parties. Everyone doesn't look at the entire candidate, because they are locked into the advice and tradition of only one party.  Jeanette Rishell is someone I have met and found her sincere about her feelings on protecting the rights of the citizens of Manassas and an advocate of the common working class. She said that she is against Illegal Immigration and seems to have some good ideas that could help to bridge the divide. She did this at a "Latin Festival" which actually took alot of guts on her part and most other candidates would fear being labeled a sympathizer  to be even seen there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much of what is said about local politics transcends down from the &#8220;business as usual&#8221; partisan politics of the big league Republican and Democratic parties. Everyone doesn&#8217;t look at the entire candidate, because they are locked into the advice and tradition of only one party.  Jeanette Rishell is someone I have met and found her sincere about her feelings on protecting the rights of the citizens of Manassas and an advocate of the common working class. She said that she is against Illegal Immigration and seems to have some good ideas that could help to bridge the divide. She did this at a &#8220;Latin Festival&#8221; which actually took alot of guts on her part and most other candidates would fear being labeled a sympathizer  to be even seen there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Manassasinsider</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23823</link>
		<dc:creator>Manassasinsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23823</guid>
		<description>Anonymous 5:23,

I dont disagree with you about Jeanette being a class act.  She just has not  given the voters a reason to throw Jackson Miller out of office.

As I have said on this blog before, Jackson has integrity and is a class act himself.  I disagreed with him often when he was on the city council.  However, he was always honest with me and never tried to beat around the bush.  He is a straight shooter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous 5:23,</p>
<p>I dont disagree with you about Jeanette being a class act.  She just has not  given the voters a reason to throw Jackson Miller out of office.</p>
<p>As I have said on this blog before, Jackson has integrity and is a class act himself.  I disagreed with him often when he was on the city council.  However, he was always honest with me and never tried to beat around the bush.  He is a straight shooter.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23816</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23816</guid>
		<description>Being called a moonfruit by BVBL is like being called ugly by a frog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being called a moonfruit by BVBL is like being called ugly by a frog.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23808</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23808</guid>
		<description>I guess the definition of "class act" got debased somewhat in order to be applied to Ms. "June With A Cleaver".  Here's someone who is out there lying to voters saying Jackson Miller did nothing about immigration last session when he got five immigration bills through the General Assembly during his first session, one of which Rishell is on record as opposing.  I got a call from a neighbor who was livid about this tripe only yesterday.

Rishell is a Moonfruit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the definition of &#8220;class act&#8221; got debased somewhat in order to be applied to Ms. &#8220;June With A Cleaver&#8221;.  Here&#8217;s someone who is out there lying to voters saying Jackson Miller did nothing about immigration last session when he got five immigration bills through the General Assembly during his first session, one of which Rishell is on record as opposing.  I got a call from a neighbor who was livid about this tripe only yesterday.</p>
<p>Rishell is a Moonfruit.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23801</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23801</guid>
		<description>Rishell is a class act, who has demonstrated by her actions for years that she cares about her community, unlike the Johnny-come-latelys and publicity hounds on this blog.  Disagree with her on the issues if you want, but drop the personal name calling Greg and Batson -- you're both so manly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rishell is a class act, who has demonstrated by her actions for years that she cares about her community, unlike the Johnny-come-latelys and publicity hounds on this blog.  Disagree with her on the issues if you want, but drop the personal name calling Greg and Batson &#8212; you&#8217;re both so manly.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23794</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23794</guid>
		<description>2006 or 2007...doesn't really matter. You can't un-ring the bell. Every statement that she made in 2006...and before, as a member of Unity in the Community, is fair game.

I am thinkink maybe I should hit the dollar store and buy out their stock of flip-flops. I can stamp them "Rishell on Illegal Immigration"...and hand them out.

Matt, you know Rishell. You know that she's pro-illegal. You know she's running from her past positions on this issue, and trying to snow the voters. You know that "going after employers" is against Federal Law. You know that a "Livability Court" will never make it out of the legislature, and if it did, it would get challenged as "unconstitutional". You know what her real psotion is: No 287g. No overcrowding ordinances. Maintain the status-quo. It's a Federal issue. yada-yada-yada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2006 or 2007&#8230;doesn&#8217;t really matter. You can&#8217;t un-ring the bell. Every statement that she made in 2006&#8230;and before, as a member of Unity in the Community, is fair game.</p>
<p>I am thinkink maybe I should hit the dollar store and buy out their stock of flip-flops. I can stamp them &#8220;Rishell on Illegal Immigration&#8221;&#8230;and hand them out.</p>
<p>Matt, you know Rishell. You know that she&#8217;s pro-illegal. You know she&#8217;s running from her past positions on this issue, and trying to snow the voters. You know that &#8220;going after employers&#8221; is against Federal Law. You know that a &#8220;Livability Court&#8221; will never make it out of the legislature, and if it did, it would get challenged as &#8220;unconstitutional&#8221;. You know what her real psotion is: No 287g. No overcrowding ordinances. Maintain the status-quo. It&#8217;s a Federal issue. yada-yada-yada.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23778</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23778</guid>
		<description>That was published in the Gainesville Times on June 29th, 2006, and you're right, that wasn't a 2007 statement.  Thanks for the catch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was published in the Gainesville Times on June 29th, 2006, and you&#8217;re right, that wasn&#8217;t a 2007 statement.  Thanks for the catch.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23770</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23770</guid>
		<description>Greg:

Did she really say “the Republican-led House is the most incompetent, politicized, arrogant and ineffective House that Virginia has ever had" in June '07 or are you recollecting her kick-off speech from '06? We used that line in '06 and I was just curious.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>Did she really say “the Republican-led House is the most incompetent, politicized, arrogant and ineffective House that Virginia has ever had&#8221; in June &#8216;07 or are you recollecting her kick-off speech from &#8216;06? We used that line in &#8216;06 and I was just curious.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sentz</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23769</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23769</guid>
		<description>The other day we got one of her flyers in the mail and my wife wrote on the envelope and placed back in the mail box 'Return to sender...NO WAY!' I believe she pays the return postage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day we got one of her flyers in the mail and my wife wrote on the envelope and placed back in the mail box &#8216;Return to sender&#8230;NO WAY!&#8217; I believe she pays the return postage?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill C.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23765</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23765</guid>
		<description>When she came to my door she said "illegal immigration is one of my top issues."  

When I asked her to elaborate, she said something about going after the employers.  I then asked her "What about going after illegal aliens themselves?"

She simply wouldnt give me an aswer.  After she left I looked at the piece of literature she handed me and it didnt even mention illegal immigration as one of her issues.  I do believe that she is trying her best to play both sides on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When she came to my door she said &#8220;illegal immigration is one of my top issues.&#8221;  </p>
<p>When I asked her to elaborate, she said something about going after the employers.  I then asked her &#8220;What about going after illegal aliens themselves?&#8221;</p>
<p>She simply wouldnt give me an aswer.  After she left I looked at the piece of literature she handed me and it didnt even mention illegal immigration as one of her issues.  I do believe that she is trying her best to play both sides on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23747</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23747</guid>
		<description>What Rishell is counting on is that the voters are basically uninformed idiots, and now she's extending this to lobbyists. With the voters she is counting on their apathy to not research her background, where they would see she is clearly an ultra-liberal who is not only soft on illegal aliens, but actually raised money for them. She is counting on the voter not knowing who Unity in the Community is. Now she's counting on lobbyiests not knowing her real agenda.

This woman has no shame, and worse, she is a liar. Furthermore, she knows deep down inside that the average voter rejects her real positions, so she is running/hiding from them. Jackson Miller needs to hit her, and hit her hard.  Those who support Miller need to make sure that they tell their friends and neighbors who Jennette Rishell really is. Write those Letters to the Editor. Send Miller a check. $5, $10, $25...whatever you can send.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Rishell is counting on is that the voters are basically uninformed idiots, and now she&#8217;s extending this to lobbyists. With the voters she is counting on their apathy to not research her background, where they would see she is clearly an ultra-liberal who is not only soft on illegal aliens, but actually raised money for them. She is counting on the voter not knowing who Unity in the Community is. Now she&#8217;s counting on lobbyiests not knowing her real agenda.</p>
<p>This woman has no shame, and worse, she is a liar. Furthermore, she knows deep down inside that the average voter rejects her real positions, so she is running/hiding from them. Jackson Miller needs to hit her, and hit her hard.  Those who support Miller need to make sure that they tell their friends and neighbors who Jennette Rishell really is. Write those Letters to the Editor. Send Miller a check. $5, $10, $25&#8230;whatever you can send.</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23737</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/05/rishells-lobbyist-letter/#comment-23737</guid>
		<description>This woman has no business being in politics.  What an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman has no business being in politics.  What an idiot.</p>
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