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Deja Vu?

By Greg L | 6 September 2007 | Blogs | 27 Comments

A candidate has false information on his website, and a blogger starts taking him to task over it.

I seem to remember something about this happening in the past.  At least the convention filing deadline in this race has long since passed, otherwise this would just be too creepy a coincidence.



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  1. freedom said on 6 Sep 2007 at 3:39 pm: Flag comment

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh, maybe he’ll forget to vote!!!

  2. Ari Stotle said on 6 Sep 2007 at 4:13 pm: Flag comment

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dar-Ape/Archive_3

    A post by Mike Wooten suggests that Gill is representing Chapman in a law suit against BVBL.

    Gee, did Mr. Gill forget that he is not licensed to practice law in VA.

  3. Loudoun Insider said on 6 Sep 2007 at 4:17 pm: Flag comment

    Where’s James Young to decry your horrifying bias, Greg? I stopped by “Skeptical Observor” today for the first time in a while and it has devolved entirely into ‘Attack Jonathan Mark All The Time for Being A Racist Jew!’ Young refuses to see the problems with Gill as a candidate. This issue described here is such a miniscule part of his problems, but is representative of the Gill-Chapman Axis.

  4. James Young said on 6 Sep 2007 at 4:34 pm: Flag comment

    “Loudmouthed Inciter,” you’re nearly as honest as racist Johnny Mark. To be sure, I call him a “racist” — for he clearly is — but NOWHERE do I reference Mark’s faith and/or ethnicity. It took the likes of you to bring that into the conversation.

    And I don’t “refuse[] to see the problems with Gill as a candidate”; I refuse to credit the rantings of: (1) racists, who try to dress them up as things other than racism; (2) people who are being sued by the target’s law firm; and (3) long-time political and/or ideological opponents. Only the third group is larger than one or two people, and it is composed of people who are so cowardly that they hide behind pseudonyms because — while ideologically opposed to Gill and Conservatives — they are politically astute enough to recognize that their political positions are a minority within the GOP, and can only hope to advance their cause by destroying Conservatives without getting their fingerprints on the evidence.

    As for the post in chief, I find it unsurprising that Greg would make such a comment, for reasons stated previously. Of course, if he wants to join in Johnny Mark’s quibbling and lying, that is up to him.

    Who knows? Maybe Greg has a number of houses to lose!

  5. Jonathan Mark said on 6 Sep 2007 at 5:20 pm: Flag comment

    I appreciate the support. I just want to say that James Young has not called me a Jew, may not know that I am Jewish, and that whatever my disagreements with him I don’t accuse him of doing so.

    Let’s all work hard. Rumor has it that Gill, if he wins, could try to run for Congress in a new PWC congressional seat several years from now.

    If we all show up online or in person and do what we feel we must Gill will fail and Paul Nichols will win.

  6. Loudoun Insider said on 6 Sep 2007 at 7:37 pm: Flag comment

    I threw that in there just to get a rise out of you, Jimmy! Jonathan Mark is Jewish and I certainly meant no offense by it. In fact if any particular ethnic group would be attuned to the dangers of radical Islam, it would be those of the Jewish faith. Do you thinks Jews are racist, JY?

    I know and work with many fine Muslims who I would support for office should they ever decide to enter politics. Faisal Gill is not a good candidate. Period. No matter how many times you scream that his opponents are racists.

    Jonathan Mark doesn’t need me or anyone else to defend him, he does just fine on his own, especially with JY.

  7. Loudoun Insider said on 6 Sep 2007 at 7:41 pm: Flag comment

    Jonathan Mark is something you are not, JY, and that is entertaining. Check out one of his latest Gill posts - love the two-toed sloth!

    http://goodbyefaisal.com/Portal/recent-articles/diary-of-how-faisal-ran-the-pwta-into-the-ground

  8. Loudoun Insider said on 6 Sep 2007 at 7:44 pm: Flag comment

    The Prince Wiiliam Taxpayer Alliance made one political contribution in its short history, according to Jonathan Mark, over $2,000 to ………………………………………Steve Chapman! Brilliant use of that money.

    http://goodbyefaisal.com/Portal/recent-articles/gills-nwta-pac-made-one-donation-in-half-decade

  9. Ari Stotle said on 6 Sep 2007 at 8:18 pm: Flag comment

    Jimmy,

    How would little Stevie Chapman ever come to know, let alone receive campaign donations from the radical islamic groups?

    (GILL, GILL, GILL….)

    The Safa group is being scrutinized for allegedly funding Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, according to court documents.

    Are you trying to deny that Steve Chapman, who attempted to unseat Manassas Republican Del. Harry Parrish in the primary election, didn’t receive a total of $3,500 from Sterling Management Group and Mar-Jac Poultry both listed in the investigation’s unsealed affidavit.

    An unsealed 2002 affidavit filed to seek a search warrant claims that the Safa Group sent more than $26 million in untraceable funds overseas and its leaders conspired to provide material support to terrorist organizations.

  10. Loudoun Insider said on 6 Sep 2007 at 9:11 pm: Flag comment

    Mick Staton, a Loudoun County supervisor with whom I agree with on many policy issues, but disagree with in terms of political fundraising, took a lot of money from Safa Group corporations as well. His father in law Dick Black took in a very large sum of Safa Group money over his tenure as a state delegate.

    Political contributions can make for strange bedfellows (see Bill Bolling and Faisal Gill and $13k). Bob McDonnell for Governor!

  11. Ari Stotle said on 6 Sep 2007 at 9:22 pm: Flag comment

    “WASHINGTON (CNN) — Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is about to appear in a new video, according to a banner ad posted by al Qaeda’s media production …”

    Anyone wonder why Osama is still free?

    The FBI hurriedly hired Arabic translators after 9-11, and in the process did a half-assed job investigating their resume and backgrounds. Sound familiar (Gill)?

    The translators, all Muslim, no Jews, identified critical FBI intelligence data and secretly disclosed it to the Islamic terrorist network that discretely removed Osama and hid him safely away in Pakistan. In this Country we call that Espionage. Doesn’t Gill’s brother work for the FBI? We can’t fire them, or they cry bigotry, and threats of law suits.

    It’s pathetic that Jimmy Young, and terrorist sympathizer Corey Stewart and Tom Kopko care so much about money and power that they’d place the lives of Americans at risk.

    Jimmy, this isn’t a contest about social conservative values, it’s about deceit, lies, and the threat of Islamic terrorist threatening the freedom of America.

    You’re a well educated, family man, why can’t you see that your friend Gill is placing their lives in harm’s way, or has Gill’s Redskin skybox tickets made you drunk on kool-aid.

  12. freedom said on 6 Sep 2007 at 10:43 pm: Flag comment

    jimmy, after all of Faisal Gill’s shady associates, questionable dealings, campaign funding sources/distributions, failure to satisfy his accepted responsibilities, and disregard for regulations, how you can still defend that man defies all reasonable logic. We all know he has a lot of money, and he’s willing to share it with “the right people,” but there are things far more important than money.

    Unfortunately, politics has evolved to the point that if a candidate has any skeletons whatsoever, they’re likely to eventually come out…and in many cases, that’s a shame, afterall, whom among us is perfect? However, in the case of Faisal Gill, it just goes on and on and on and on. Despite his block of votes, we don’t HAVE to accept this man…and neither race, nor ethnicity, nor religion have one whit to do with it — it’s a matter of character, jimmy — you’re an American, wake up!!!

  13. James Young said on 6 Sep 2007 at 11:14 pm: Flag comment

    I did remember that you said that you were Jewish once, JM. Didn’t seem relevant to my point. Interesting, though, that it was relevant to “Loudmouth Inciter’s” point.

    To answer “Loudmouth Inciter’s” question, no, not all “Jews are racist.” At least one who is comes immediately to mind, and I would imagine that — like all ethnic groups — there are a few that are. Unlike some, “Loudmouth Inciter,” I don’t paint which a broad brush regarding things that are beyond one’s control. I much prefer to judge individuals based upon their action. Like the cowardice of hiding behind a pseudonym while attacking men and women of courage.

    As for the attacks against Faisal, it is fascinating that one balances all of the conclusions and contrived attacks against the facts that he is a man trusted by the elected officials charged with conducting a war on Islamo-Fascism, and that he was investigated and cleared by those who would make every association suspect. There’s a word for such behavior, overused by the far Left and underutilized by craven Conservatives: McCarthyism. By the standards of the cowardly pseudonymous people attacking Faisal — and JM, who is psychotic, not cowardly — Grover Norquist is suspect because he married a Muslim woman, and I am suspect and associated with the misdeeds of Jack Abramoff because we have a number of mutual friends, and because I occasionally smoked cigars and had a few drinks with a man who killed his stepson and shot his wife. Those are “standards”; they’re guilt-by-association.

    You can play these games all day long, and JM play them all too frequently. Why don’t you people just ‘fess up and admit that you don’t like Faisal because he is a principled Conservative who is unlikely to compromise with the agenda of the far Left?

  14. James Young said on 6 Sep 2007 at 11:15 pm: Flag comment

    Those are NOT “standards”; they’re guilt-by-association.

  15. Loudoun Insider said on 6 Sep 2007 at 11:31 pm: Flag comment

    Obviously JY is blinded by his love for Faisal. I think we all need to just give up on trying to reason with him on this matter, but there’s a lot more than guilt by association and the sheer number and scale of guilt by association instances simply boggles the mind. He and Charles can continue to rant about what unfair bigots we all are on their vanity blogs that no one reads.

  16. Ari Stotle said on 6 Sep 2007 at 11:46 pm: Flag comment

    Jimmy’s hopeless.

    If a new neighbor moved in and you learned that this person had been accused of engaging in sex with a minor left in his custody (Michael Jackson) and later walked away without serving jail time. A year later he moves next door to you, do you think you’d want him to baby sit your kids?

    Why won’t Gill reputiate Islamic Radicalism? I’d compare that to chopping the nuts off a child molester, only then would he be allowed to babysit.

  17. freedom said on 7 Sep 2007 at 5:10 am: Flag comment

    jimmy, then why in the world doesn’t Mr Gill publish this “letter of exoneration”??? It’s a far stretch to derive “exonerated” or “cleared” from not being indicted, following an investigation…and as Ari asks, why won’t he repudiate Islamic radicalism?

  18. dolph said on 7 Sep 2007 at 7:54 am: Flag comment

    After reading this thread, several platitudes spring to mind:

    “Birds of a feather flock together.”

    “A man is judged by the company he keeps.”

    “The lady (or man) doth protest too much methinks.”

    It sounds like the local Republicans are as dysfunctional as the local Democrats. Wasn’t Chapman enough of an embarrassment?

  19. Jonathan Mark said on 7 Sep 2007 at 8:24 am: Flag comment

    “”"As for the attacks against Faisal, it is fascinating that one balances all of the conclusions and contrived attacks against the facts that he is a man trusted by the elected officials charged with conducting a war on Islamo-Fascism, and that he was investigated and cleared by those who would make every association suspect.”"”

    The Office of Personnel Management’s Federal Investigative Service let him keep his clearances in 2004, as best we can tell. OPM FIS also vetted and passed the former Alamoudi lobbyist David Hossein Safavian. In the case of Safavian, the Iranian-born lawyer stated on his lobbyist filings that he was a lobbyist for Alamoudi.

    The OPM FIS in 2000 and 2004 didn’t care if someone had lobbied for Alamoudi.

    In the case of Safavian, the Alamoudi connection should have been a warning sign. Safavian later received an 18 month sentence for corruption (not terrorism, however.)

    “”" — Grover Norquist is suspect because he married a Muslim woman,”"”

    Norquist is suspect because Norquist also, through his firm Janus-Merritt which he formed with Safavian, lobbied for Alamoudi. Janus-Merrit filled out lobbying forms saying that it was doing it.

    “”"Those aren’t “standards”; they’re guilt-by-association.”"”

    The now-imprisoned Alamoudi had a lot of illicit Libyan and Saudi money, and he threw it around buying lobbyists and influence. Lobbyists like Norquist, Safavian and Gill.

    In the case of Alamoudi lobbyists who then actually run for office, it’s unfitness-by-activity-and-association. It isn’t guilt at all, since Gill isn’t charged with any crime. I have not accused him of committing one.

  20. Anonymous said on 7 Sep 2007 at 11:29 am: Flag comment

    Gill would be a great choice for a theoretical PWC-based congressional seat in the future.

    What will the Gill-haters say when he defeats Paul Nichols by a greater margin than McQuigg defeated Porta in 2005?

  21. Jonathan Mark said on 7 Sep 2007 at 1:40 pm: Flag comment

    Such sentiments are all the more reason to do what we must legally to make sure that Nichols wins.

    It is virtually impossible to pry an incumbent loose from a seat in a seat that leans towards the incumbents party. The best time to stop former Alamoudi lobbyist Gill’s putative political career is now.

    There is no question that Kopko, Stewart, McQuigg et al are pushing this guy.

  22. Jonathan Mark said on 7 Sep 2007 at 1:41 pm: Flag comment

    in a district that leans towards the incumbent’s party.

  23. John Smith said on 7 Sep 2007 at 3:32 pm: Flag comment

    Faisal’s having a Jewelry fundraiser on the 16th. I bet that’s gonna bring in the big bucks.

    And its on a Sunday afternoon for THREE hours. That is prime door knocking time.

    What is he doing ….?

  24. Jonathan Mark said on 7 Sep 2007 at 3:42 pm: Flag comment

    “”"Jewelry Fundraiser for Faisal Gill sponsored by Golden Girl Jewelry. Come and have a fun time with Friends of Faisal Gill. Refreshments will be provided. Bring your family and friends.”"”

    Huh? Faisal got a $10,000 donation from Shiney’s Sweets, a Pakistani restaurant in a strip mall. $10,000! Are luncheon buffets really that profitable?

    Faisal got $5000 from a gas station down the street from me. Not a particularly imposing one either.

    Nothing that goes on with Faisal’s campaign financing is normal. Why should this event be any different?

    http://vpap.org/cands/cand_donorlist.cfm?ToKey=COM01317&CycleID=2007&CycleType=Regular

  25. John Smith said on 7 Sep 2007 at 5:15 pm: Flag comment

    Why does the PWCGOP list Gill as Hon. Faisal Gill? What past position qualifies him as Hon.?

    http://www.pwcgop.org/2007_precincts.htm

    Just wondering…

  26. Loudoun Insider said on 7 Sep 2007 at 5:32 pm: Flag comment

    The position of “Wishful Thinker”!

  27. Harry said on 10 Sep 2007 at 8:48 am: Flag comment

    Read George Grayson’s piece on Page 8 Sec B in yesterdays Wash Post

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