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Congress Responds To Corey Stewart
By Greg L | 8 September 2007 | National Politics, Prince William County | 37 Comments
Corey Stewart went to Washington on Thursday and demanded that Congress give localities more power to help enforce immigration laws. Today, the Washington Times reports that perhaps they’ll do what he asked them to do.
A Tennessee congresswoman yesterday introduced legislation giving state and local law-enforcement officers the authority to enforce federal immigration law and investigate, apprehend, detain, transport and remove illegal aliens from the U.S. — including 85,000 criminal aliens.
Way to go, Corey. It looks like you’ve done a good job of embarrassing Congress into taking some action here. Let’s see if this passes before we start celebrating, though. It will be a tough fight to get this passed.
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This is great news! Prince William has started something national.
Let us hope this moves forward. Let us also hope that the feds provide some dollars to get this done. After all, if we’re going to do Uncle’s job, he should pay for it.
The is excellent news!! I’m so pleased to see Prince William County leading the way. It’s about time, someone started listening to us on Capitol Hill. Looks, like the tide is turning the way of legal citizens perhaps.
We must keep up the MOMENTUM!
Now, Fairfax,Manassas Park, Arlington, Falls Church, City of Alexandria, and ALL other sancutary counties/cities you NEED and MUST move forward. What are you all waiting for???
How about taking the money normally given to National Council of La Raza and using it for this responsible legislation! Get Tom Tancredo on the ball!
http://www.birthrightpetition.com/
While we are discussing ways to shut down loopholes…sign the petition above!
I will be even happier if the legislation REQUIRES state and local law enforcement to arrest, detain and deport illegal aliens. It may not be difficult to pass such legislation at the federal level, because it’s all about the money. If congress can get state and local authorities to do the feds job without siphoning funds from their pet projects, I think you will see many reps. and sens. jump on board, because their pet pork is what they truly care about.
NO MORE SANCTUARY CITIES!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070907/NATION/109070089/1001
This doesn’t help the situation…please read!
What about those that hire? No legislation for that? Who and how will deportation happen? Do we have to now drive them back ourselves?
I read in MJM this morning that the City is going to toughen its licensing of businesses. Two forms of ID are a driver’s license and SS card. I hope they take an additional step to determine of those 2 forms of ID are not fake.
Who pays for deportation and who does it?
16 illegals found in Annandale Va. http://www.nbc4.com/news/14071233/detail.html
Okay, HSM Leaders —
Maybe if I address this to someone I will get a response.
One we require all police officers to check for illegals. What do we do with them? Who pays for deportation, who does it and how?
EXCELLENT !!!! Hopefully the same investigative diligence will be performed on all of those trucks coming up from Mexico.
do we keep the truck that come from Mexico? how are the illegals returned and by whom.
send them back COD
Did anyone read in todays WaPo page A4 where Giuliani said that illegal immigration is not criminal. Apparently violations of the nation’s immigration laws are not criminal infractions, but civil violations. Deportation is a civil proceeding because violation of immigration laws are not, according to him a federal crime.
Thoughtful response.
This is going to cost us $$$ big time, now. I am not opposed to paying to remove the problem, but seriously folks, how is this going to work. The reason they let illegals go is because there is no room in the jails. Not that I think they need room, but it has to be safe for the jail guards.
I am serious how is this going to work — Deportation Fairy??? Or are we considering a final solution?
You’ll have to pay to deport the first few bunches, and when the illegals realize that they’re at risk of getting picked up and shipped out, they’ll self-deport. At least that way, they can take their car and other personal property with them.
Right now Virginia pays something like $300 million a year to incarcerate illegal aliens. We pay millions in fraudulent welfare payments, increased auto and health insurance premiums, and investigating and prosecuting illegal aliens. I’d be happy to pay to help solve the problem, rather than endlessly pay for the recurring costs illegal aliens impose on our localities.
anom,
The minute you start overcrowding jails, the courts step in and start barking orders. I have the same questions you do. How is it going to work?
It is fine to trumpet that we are going to do this and that, but I haven’t seen any viable plans. There are no simple solutions to complex issues.
The deportation process seems to be a revolving door. The illegals scurry back so quickly. We need to drop them off at the tip of South America. We need to think of a way for them to earn to money to pay for the cost of the plane trip. Seriously, being deported needs to become a MAJOR INCONVENIENCE and obviously it is not bothering the illegals much now. If only we could find a way to bill Mexico.
Anon,
Take the money out of the foreign aid we send them.
Correct, the Courts were here in the mid to late 80’s regarding the jail already.
Maybe breaking out the responsibility levels may lead to a better outcome. If the locals have to find them and grab them and the feds just have to remove them it might work. From what I’ve seen, catch and release seems to be the current fed approach due to funding and current laws. Maybe if they focus on prevention at the borders and removal it might work.
Of course, if you find a van full of illegals, it is well and good to throw them all in jail. What do you do with the babies and children? This will be a local issue.
Regarding property — it should be seizable just like a drug arrest.
The reality is that any service savings from removal and revenue from property will take time and cannot be counted on to pay for this.
Last year, the local supervisors did not raise the tax rate and did not cut all non-profitable programs (Manassas Adult Day Care) for political reasons. The only way this can be paid for here in PWC is to close all parks and recreation type services or raise the tax rate. (Elminating HR Commission will not save much $$ - preemptive strike!)
Of course bringing back the meals tax for immigration issues might be a good idea and it might pass if it was used for that!!!!
All for reducing foreign aid.
All for reducing money spent on that losing cause in the desert.
All for spending money on US Americans to encourage affordable health care, killing the no child left behind nonsense and making the local “traditional” schools the norm, improving our transportation systems and focusing on mass transportation that you can COUNT on!
All for a goverment that respects and treats their citizens like Norway!!
All for the same amout of foreign involvement that you see from Norway. They enjoy reduced work hours, good vacations and live a healthy life.
All well and good. We are going to be stuck with paying for those we catch for the next 3-4 years. Will we see any of that foreign aid money or Iraq funding in that time period?
Rather than build new detention facilities, do like Sheriff Arpaio in Arizona, house the detainees in tent cities. If he can do it with his county jail, why can’t other jurisdictions do it with illegal aliens?
“Take the money out of the foreign aid we send them.”
You would think that would be a given, considering that the new el Presidente has thrown down the gauntlet. ALL aid should be cut off immediately and that money redirected to ICE for enforcement, incarceration and deportation. They don’t need to build new prisons…just stick the illegals on abandoned military bases that have been shored up and adapted with some of those millions of dollars we are no longer sending them in aid until they’re deported.
The process, however, must start with securing the borders. I say, send in the military…and not with rubber bullets. Close the border, sic the localities on the illegals, close the public assistance loopholes, and enforce the immigration laws…and self-deportation will solve a good bit of the problem. Once we’ve gotten the bulk of them back into their own countries and closed that revolving door THEN we can look at immigration reform that will help decent, law-abiding immigrants who want to EARN the American dream and will become a credit to their communities come into this country LEGALLY.
Greg,
When you talk about self deportation you show clearly that you don’t understand the source of the problem. Illegal immigration is not a choice. These people will rather dye here trying where they could find some hope rather than no choice at all in their countries.
The plan I see here just stand for a clear excercise of mental masturbation. There are not enough people to capture 12 million people. It sounds nice but it is not viable.
I think we should start by going to the source and have severe penalties for the employer. I think the employers should be penalized by sharing some of the cost for the deportation process.
SEEYOURPROBLEM
Nice to meet ya!
You opined: “Illegal immigration is not a choice. These people will rather dye [sic] here trying where they could find some hope rather than no choice at all in their countries.”
It most certainly is a “choice”. They can choose to come here LEGALLY or ILLEGALLY. Millions of Hispanics and folks of other nationalities throughout the history of this nation have come here to escape the squalor of the former countries and have done so legally. And they are welcomed with open arms. If you take the word “illegal” out of your statement, then I wholeheartedly concur. The illegality of it is the key!
“There are not enough people to capture 12 million people. It sounds nice but it is not viable.”
Well, I think if it came to that extreme it could work. The odds of 275-300 million people driving out 12-20 million illegals are pretty good odds. But I hope it doesn’t have to come to that.
“I think we should start by going to the source and have severe penalties for the employer.”
Now you’re talking!
JM
I like your thinking. Sheriff Joe Arpaio is my hero. If every county were likehist, we wouldn’t have any problem.
“I think we should start by going to the source and have severe penalties for the employer.”
I absolutely agree with that as well…insert that in my tirade as equal in importance to closing the public assistance loopholes. Both enable and encourage the illegal alien invasion.
Let’s buy a Bowing 747, and airplane fuel and start giving them rides back home. While we’re at it, we should tag them like pigeons, place a sensor securely around their neck and an electrical fence around our borders, if they try to break our laws again after being given a second chance, they’re toast.
The Bush Adminstration wants these aliens here, and if we fight back, they will riot and while we’re fighting a civil war, Bush will invoke Marshall Law and while we’re all fighting for our lives, Congress will pass the North American Union. A new world order..Mexico, U.S. and Canada will become one.
Shocked…..Google George W. Bush and the NAU, he has already made the
commitment and is over due at delivering the deal.
Don’t believe me, ask your Congressman where they stand on the NAFTA Superhighway.
Hey Greg,
Do you think we can get Congressman Goode to come speak with HSM on this issue?
Virgil Goode is working to block the NAFTA Superhighway, Tancredo, too, but some elected officials want us to think Goode and Tancredo are racist, evil people.
Can’t imagine why…can you? $$$$
If Jorge Bush cared that the US is secure from terrorism, he wouldn’t be stealthily forwarding the SSP and NAU. If he cared about our sovereignty, he would pick up el presidente’s gauntlet and stop all trade with Mexico immediately, and that includes stopping the wire transfers of money out of our country. “For this is not the first time an arrogant Mexican ruler has made a claim to extra-territorial rights inside the United States and, indeed, to U.S. territory. Mexico’s presidents have gotten into a habit of suborning treason against the United States.” - excerpt from Pat Buchanan’s article: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57504
Legal2 ….I’m with you!
It’s happening and he is encouraging it. Here is some evidence.
Union of North America coins:
http://www.designscomputed.com/coins/amero.html
@ JM 8 Sept 11:32
Can’t happen. In Printz v. United States (1997) the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government cannot force states or their subdivisions to enforce federal laws.
But in a fascist way, they can “enforce” states to do it their way as long as it looks like what the feds want in the end. e.g., outcome based education.
They may not be able to do it directly, Andrew, but that’s why they have “revenue sharing.” It’s a form of blackmail passed by the Nixon Administration that many of us conservatives opposed knowing that would be exactly what they would do with it.
For those of you not familiar with revenue sharing, it is blocks of federal tax money from the state supposedly “returned to the state” for such things as education, transportation, etc. that comes with a caveat…it is forfeited if certain “conditions” are not met. These conditions are, of course, set by the Fed.
Thank you, AWC, for explaining it so well!