The MJM Joins The Open Borders Crowd
By Greg L | 10 September 2007 | National Politics, Illegal Aliens | 24 Comments
Today’s Manassas Journal-Messenger’s editorial pretty much lays out the editorial board’s opinion on the illegal alien problem - don’t discourage landlords from renting to illegal aliens, and don’t let the police detail illegal aliens on immigration violations because it’s the beginning of the establishment of a police state. It would be interesting to do a poll to see just how out of touch the MJM’s editorial board might be with the public, so at the bottom of this post is a poll. Is it right that local police are currently prohibited from detaining illegal aliens solely on immigration violations when they’re asked to help enforce every other federal law and regulation?
Of course, the editorial board would like to see the hammer dropped on businesses that hire illegal aliens, something that would be eminently sensible if it were part of a broader strategy. Right now it looks like the state and local governments are the single largest employer of illegal aliens in the Commonwealth, and for them to continue awarding contracts to businesses that hire illegal aliens when employers would be getting penalized for essentially doing the same thing doesn’t at all seem reasonable. But business is a popular whipping boy for the left, and the MJM’s editorial board certainly can attempt to appear as if they’re interested in compromise here. I can’t imagine that many of their advertisers are all that interested in funding the MJM’s advocacy that businesses should solely be held accountable for our illegal alien problems, however.
There are perhaps 6,000 Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agents working on immigration enforcement nationwide, and they’re clearly unable to enforce the law. Illegal aliens are well aware of this, and that lax enforcement encourages ever-growing numbers of illegal aliens to come to the United States. Add over 700,000 state and local police officers to the mix, and that perception, and very likely the reality will significantly change. We’re either going to get serious about addressing the problem, or we’re going to tolerate continued lip-service to securing our borders and enforcing our laws, which is what we’re getting now from the federal government.
Lip service is what got us into this mess in the first place. We need to stop sanctuary jurisdictions, stop taxpayer dollars from being used to hire illegal aliens for government contracts or support illegal aliens through entitlement programs, punish employers for hiring illegal aliens, and use all the resources we currently have to start enforcing our laws. What Corey Stewart is proposed to Congress is a vitally important part of a real effort to actually do something about this problem.
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FIRST OFF: STOP POSTING ABOUT THE MJM GREG! THEY ARE IRRELEVANT. THEY ARE A RAG THAT NOBODY READS OR CARES ABOUT. STOP GIVING THEM ANY MORE ATTENTION!!
ICE is also not “unable” to do their jobs; they are unwilling to do their jobs. There’s quite a bit of difference there.
When(if ever) will the “MJM’s editorial board” get a clue ?
Dave B. This is the first time I have to disagree with you. There are people that do read the MJM- far too many. I refuse to pay a penny for the MJM or log onto their site. However, I like to know what BS my neighbors are reading and buying into.
Dave B:
Whether ICE is “unable” or “unwilling” to do their job is a distinction without a difference to those of us living with what we should refer to as “la Problema.” Regardless of the reason why the federal government is not protecting us, the responsibility for our safety devolves to the local constabulary if the federal government avoids its responsibility.
Lenin referred to them as useful idiots. He was half right.
does anyone know of or have a list of officials running for office that are for/against illegal alien reform? I think that a list of the candidates for/against would help out voters come election time to get the people we need into office so that something can done. I did find one list of people running for office but it didn’t really give their stance on if they were willing to take action.
reallyfedup:
Such a list that you request would truly be helpful, if it could be compiled. However, like most political issues, the people involved are accomplished at doublespeak, duplicitousness, and outright deception (how’s that for illiteration?). For example, since this is a federal issue, and since this (Manassas, Fairfax, Arlington, Loudon) area has been so effected by the problem, you’d think that the federal representatives of the area would be on the leading edge of finding a solution. The exact opposite is the truth. Our fair-haired Republican representatives from the area, Frank Wolf and Tom Davis, have done absolutely nothing over the past 10 years as this problem was developing to either address the problem or to even identify it.
Others on this blog have come to these individuals’ defense, but I haven’t seen anything from those defenders offering anything of substance to show me that we should hold these two representatives up to anything else than public ridicule for refusing to shoulder their responsibility to their constituents and to the country. But some people would put them on a list of candidates who would be “for” illegal alien reform. Not only would I not put them on such a list, I say they’re even more dangerous than open border advocates because they profess support for reform, yet do nothing. When I see them in public I’m hard pressed not to urinate on their footwear (piss on their boots, as they say in Texas).
What should the MJM have said? I felt the MJM was rather supportive of the initiatives set forth by the BOCS.
I guess he’s wrong, huh?
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/09/colin-powell-te.html#more
I guess he’s wrong, huh? Yup!
Dolph,
Where exactly has the MJM been “rather supportive” of the BOCS and their attempt to crack down on illegals?
Hard to believe what I see - here is the promised poll question -
“Is it right that local police are currently prohibited from detaining illegal aliens solely on immigration violations”.
But at the bottom, the poll actually asks, “should local police be able to arrest illegal aliens?”. Of course they can. They can arrest ordinary citizens, can’t they? But arrest solely for an immigration violation? My feeling is “No” but I have no problem if local police ask everyone to verify their status in connection with a lawful arrest or traffic stop (as long as it’s done consistently which means everyone, even if they appear “American” be asked to produce the same proof). Let the local police then compile or forward the information they’ve obtained in suspicious cases but to detain for solely a perceived or possible immigration violation should not be within their jurisdiction and would be a power ripe for abuse.
Collin:
Yes Powell is wrong. I agree with him that there is nothing wrong with immigration, but only when it is legal. A nation has no sovereignty if it has open borders as he is suggesting.
MJM proposes anarchy. In other words everyone should do what is right in their own eyes. I wonder what would happen if the editorial staff became victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens which in this county the odds are high for that to happen. Of course they do not know the definition of the word “alien”. Maybe they should read the McGraw-Hill Children’s Dictionary to find out about the word. Sometimes I wonder what level of education these people completed. Obviously they didn’t take government class, so maybe they haven’t reached high school yet.
Patty,
The editoral board is made up of idiots. It is just not this issue they are wrong on. I seriously wonder if they are just having a laugh at the expense of us. Because it is hard to see how any collective group of people could be so wrong about an issue.
How many of the blighted properties house illegal immigrants “double-dipping” into the Section 8 housing voucher program while being paid cash under the table?
“Our fair-haired Republican representatives from the area, Frank Wolf and Tom Davis, have done absolutely nothing over the past 10 years as this problem was developing to either address the problem or to even identify it.”
Advocator, you must have missed my comment in one of the threads. I received a response from Frank Wolf to my inquiry regarding his record on the illegal alien issue and, in every case that an issue arose in Congress favoring illegal aliens, Frank has strongly opposed it. Greg has a scanned copy of the letter, and I believe he was going to do a post about it at some time. In the interim, allow me to quote portions of it:
“Amnesty is an insult to all law-abiding immigrants who have been waiting in line patiently and legally for their immigration number to come up. Such an amnesty would only intensify an already significant immigration problem and overwhelm our already overburdened social services and law enforcement systems.”
And he has put his actions where his beliefs are (caps are mine, for emphasis):
“When the House considered major immigration reform legislation in 1986, I VOTED TO STRIKE a provision in the bill to grant amnesty to those who had entered the country illegally. When that amendment failed, I voted AGAINST the House bill that included a legalization provision which subsequently became law. YOU CAN FIND MY COMPLETE VOTING RECORD DATING BACK TO 1997 ON MY WEB SITE AT http://wolf.house.gov.”
And I think he makes his position clear, in summary:
“It is critical that we get control of our borders as the first priority for any immigration reform effort. Please know that I will continue to work toward that goal as immigration policy changes are considered.”
As you can see, Advocator, Frank Wolf is NOT a “Johnny-come-lately” to the fight. He was fighting illegal immigration BEFORE most, if not all, of us were aware it was a big issue. Give him credit for considerably more foresight than his constituents. Now, who is it you want representing us in Congress, particularly on this issue…Frank Wolf or Judy Feder?
Advocator,
I agree with AWCheney. You do not have your voting stats right. Frank Wolf has indeed fought against “illegal” immigration at every vote.
I also agree that Colin Powell is out of touch, he was wrong on IRAQ too as history will show it to be another Vietnam. It’s easy to arm-chair quarterback, but you’d think we’d learn our lesson you cannot fight and win nationalist, cultural wars, until International law is upheld by leaders who advocate and support only “individual” rights and deny “group” rights as “illegal”. Until then, the best you can do is remove bad leaders and then as a matter of policy and sanity quickly leave the country to its own cultural, religious, ethnic group hatred alignment affairs, unless you can commit to WWII resource sustainment levels and loss of life. It better be a World War, before you make that large a commitment, not just a regional business self interest chess game for crafty. arrogant, and deceitful politicians.
THe MJM is composed of “individuals” who have a bias in their journalistic education rooted in the 1970s and 1980s political activists. They are out of touch with the real truth of blind following of racial, gender, ethnic group, and religious group ideology. They are unable to see at this point in their political lives, how that concept can turn on you and make you the new group desiring superiority over other racial, ethnic, religious and gender groups to obtain social, economic and legal privileges not given equally to everyone. They have fought so long for discrimmination, they have forgotten, what happens when you fight too long and too hard for priviliges depending on what group you belong too, not what you deserve as an individual on your own skill, talent and merit. Get rid or those individuals in the MJM, replace it with another publication of more “equality aware and constitutionally aware” individuals who advocate and understand what individual freedom is, and the danger of ethnic, gender, religious and racial GROUP THINK, will go away.
Frank Wolf has also been at the forefront of fighting gangs such as Ms-13, which is a haven for illegals.
I think the editioral board for the MJM was kidnapped and replaced….http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173352697357&path=!opinion
Of course the police can arrest any citizen for violation of any law. “Illegal” immigration is “illegal”, there is a FEDERAL statute probibiting it, US Code Title 8 Section 1325. When Giuliani says it is not a Federal crime to be an
“illegal alien” he is spouting deceitful garbage to his prospective voters, hoping to capitalize on thier ignorance. Many politicians play these arrogant, deceitful games with the unknowledgeable and gullible citizens of the land. Mitt Romney, although he worries me on other “religious group” privilege issues is the only smart Republican of the bunch right now. Hillery is going to focus and align herself by gender privilige issues and a significant number of citizens are going to vote for her just because of the group they belong to. Obama will likely do the same along ethnic group issue lines, but I hope he will see that is wrong, before we return to the 1960’s seperatist political racial and ethnic group based political action hate groups, and divide and destroy the nation again. Wait until we get an asian, arabic, hispanic or fanatical religious group candidate and you will likely see the same ethnic, racial, religious, gender voting alignment. This is very dangerous to a free democratic country whose laws only recognize the legality of “individual rights” and the illegality of group priviliges, group rights and group advocacy of supremist groups aligned along racial, gender, religious and ethnic group lines, especially when they vote that way.
Hey folks,
For your digestion, check out the MJM opinion on “Illegal immigration plans that work”
http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173352697357&path=!opinion
I love this snippet:
“That’s why we are encouraged when we see localities take steps to ensure that work is a right for legal residents and harder to obtain for illegal residents.”
Are they turning?
Es,
I saw that and posted in another thread that the editorial board of the paper must have been kidnapped, and replaced. I also noticed that all but one front page story in today’s edition(11th) was about illegal immigration. The paper simply cannot ignore it any longer.