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The Bigger Picture

By Greg L | 11 September 2007 | National Politics, Illegal Aliens, Prince William County | 7 Comments

Douglas MacKinnon over at TownHall.com took a stab at the illegal alien debate going on in Prince William County a few days ago, and the implications of this battle on the country at large. In case some of you out there haven’t recognized that the success or failure we get in Prince William County is going to have a tremendous impact on what happens elsewhere in the nation. First, he pretty succinctly lays out the stakes locally:

Earlier this week, as many as seven thousand illegal aliens [Ed note: local television pegged attendance at three thousand] and their pro-law breaking supporters – including Hispanic Priests – converged once again at the seat of the Prince William County government to intensity their militancy as they sought to intimidate the Prince William board and the legal citizens of the county. It should be noted that this threatening protest was led by a group that calls itself “Mexicans Without Borders.” An organization headed-up by an individual who, it has been reported, draws his inspiration from the violent Marxist Zapatista Army of National Liberation. Pure and simple, these militants intend to take the county down and then take their guerilla campaign to the next city or county that has the temerity to try and enforce the laws of the United States.

For the majority of the citizens of Prince William County, as well as the vast majority of the citizens of our nation, this thuggish attack from within represents a direct threat to our very sovereignty. We are a nation with borders and it is the job of our federal government to enforce those borders, and while doing so, ensure the national security of our country.

And at the end of the article, he tells readers, almost all of which are from outside of Prince William why what’s happening in our own corner of the world is important to them:

Combative, illegal aliens have established a beachhead in Prince William County, Virginia. Millions of illegal aliens and their supporters around the nation are closely following this confrontation. Should the militant illegal aliens prevail in Prince William county, the others around the nation will be emboldened to try the same.

Exactly. Although we’re engaged locally, and it all might seem that it’s all about us here in the county, it’s not. If Mexicans Without Borders could win here, and so far it looks like they’re not only not winning but on the run, is the next locality threatened by these folks going to stand up to them and their ilk, or cave? Not likely. Going against the politically correct notion of welcoming lawbreakers and punishing the law abiding requires far more political toughness than it should these days, as it’s not particularly fun being targeted by MALDEF, National Council of La Raza and other well-funded illegal alien lobbyist organizations.

If we win here in Prince William though, it’s going to send shock waves across the nation, some of which have already started to propagate. Our local actions here inspire a lot of folks we may never know, and our success will only increase the tempo.



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7 Comments

  1. Ari Stotle said on 12 Sep 2007 at 12:08 am: Flag comment

    Prince William County has an unfair advantage in this fight because we live in a Dillon Rule State. All we can do is enforce laws that the General Assembly has granted us the authority to enforce, and there aren’t many.

    Immigration Law is Federal with many states lacking the authority needed to take measures into their own hands. Before the “state” can help the local jurisdictions they must first learn to help themselves.

    We’re making a lot of noise hear in Prince William, but voters need to realize it’s not our Supervisors or the Chairman we simply don’t have the authority.

    HSM has created awareness and sent a strong message that American’s are sick and tired of footing the bill for illegal’s who are destroying our quality of life. Take the time to speak to your Delegate candidates and make your expectations clear.

    Do we want a Delegate who is an immigration attorney by day who makes his money rescuing Illegal Aliens who are about to be deported to introduce legislation on our behalf? I don’t. I believe it’s a conflict of interest from a person of questionable integrity.

    These are critical times, that call for quick, concise and effective leadership. Send Paul Nichols to Richmond, he’ll bring home the tools we need to put some action behind the voice.

  2. b52 said on 12 Sep 2007 at 2:58 am: Flag comment

    whats wrong with ICE?cant see the forest for the trees? Raid ANY construction site, and, the illegals will run like cockroaches when you flip on the light in a cheap hotel.

  3. Batson D. Belfrey said on 12 Sep 2007 at 6:45 am: Flag comment

    “Do we want a Delegate who is an immigration attorney by day who makes his money rescuing Illegal Aliens who are about to be deported to introduce legislation on our behalf? I don’t. I believe it’s a conflict of interest from a person of questionable integrity. ”

    No. Gill will be a horrible delegate.

    Also, the question for the 50th: Do you want a delegate who has rasied money for Mexicans Without Borders, and has publically opposed the Manassas City Council’s efforts to control houses overcrowded by illegals, and publically opposed Manassas entering into the 287g program, whereby illegal aliens who have committed crimes are processed fr deportation, after serving their time in jail? Do you want a delegate who has done all of this, but tells potential voters that she will “get tough on illegal immigration”?

    or

    Do you want a Delegate who as a Manassas Coity Councilman, led the fight to combat the effects of illegals in our community, at the local level, by proposing new overcrowding ordinances, and pushed to have Manassas enter the 287g program? Do you want a Delegate who introduced several pieces of legislation during last year’s legislative session, designed to make it tougher for illegals to live in Virginia, all of which passed the House?

    RE-ELECT JACKSON MILLER!

  4. Michael said on 12 Sep 2007 at 9:45 am: Flag comment

    The bigger picture requires people to get their brains engaged and realize this fight is not about just a particular ethnic group, but about lawlessness and terrorism in our interior, not just our border, and not just in other countries our troops are in, but to protect us from any ethnic, religious, gender or racial hate group determined to harm us physically, economically. politically, and socially. If we do not have the power to protect our interior safety and stability from lawnessness and terrorism as effectively as we need to protect our border, any ethnic, racial, gender, religious hate group or terrorist sleeper cell can operate freely without being noticed, challenged, identified or deported. Crimes can be committed with no records and no recourse for punishment by equal protection under the law principals, and these crimes can be executed without power and authority given to our local police to enforce our laws wherever “illegal” aliens are found. The most dangerous of these “illegals” are the terrorist sleepers on expired student visas, criminal gangs who came into the country on I-94s that have expired from countries all over the world, criminals who operate as if our border is an open door for killing, theft and rape, and communties in the interior are a “sanctuary”, once they get past the border guards. The bigger picture requires citizens to understand that identifying and deporting “illegal” aliens infiltrated at the local community level is the only way to capture and remove people from any country who would do harm and damage to US security and hurt innocent people.

    Our politicians (like our current President, potential future presidents Obama, Guliani, Thompson, Senator(s) Clinton, Obama, Kennedy, Salazar, Menendez, Boxer, Liebermann, Webb, Reid, Feinstein, McCain, Specter and others in the Democratic party or even Republican party who claim we have no “illegal” immigration problem, don’t remember (9/11) very clearly. It is “illegal aliens” in this country who are the ones who operated covertly in our nation’s interior in the past without being stopped, identified, arrested, or deported by local community police, and the same terrorists will continue to operate without notice during routine traffic stops and business raids, until they import nuclear material into a Seattle Port in a small commercial boat, haul it in a trailer marked with tags from another country south of the border, and drop it off in a sleeper cell in Chicago, Minnesota, or Philidelphia, for processing into a bomb intended for explosion in Washington D.C. When you say we have no “illegal” problem you show incredible ignorance and arrogance to the American people and are not fit to serve in office. Suck up to all the “legal” immigrants and “legal” citizen ethnic, racial, gender or religious hate groups you want while you deceitfully run for office on ethnic, racial, gender, and religious hate group agendas (we will deal with that after we get our nation secure), but clearly make the distinction, the American people need the power to remove “illegal” people regardless of race, ethnic group, gender or religious hate group from the interior of this nation to protect our safety, our children, our welfare and our national culture from destruction from within.

  5. The Patriot said on 12 Sep 2007 at 9:54 am: Flag comment

    This was a very interesting story! Additionally, it shows true assimilated Americans that love America and its melting pot!

    “This email was sent by Carmen Morales of You Don’t Speak for Me - a patriotic group of Hispanics who essentially love this country and are saying to La Raza - you don’t speak for us just because we are Hispanic. This story needs to be shared because it is happening in every little town across America - the invasion of Spanish over English - AND IT HAS TO BE STOPPED!

    Kudos to Joe for standing up and taking the time to speak out. This is a beautiful example of what we ALL must do in our daily lives - the battle is not always in Washington - it is in our local supermarkets and stores as well.

    Hello my friends tonight I have something to say about an experience that happened to my husband Joe. To all of you who know Joe, you know what a peaceful laid back person he is. Also my husband is not argumentative or an angry person, he is very peaceful and loving. Wherever he goes people just seem to love him, but that does not mean that he is not a strong man, for he is all the man any woman could ever want. He supports me 100% in everything I do, and if you want to see his anger come out in him, it will only be if someone hurts me or any of my children and grandchildren.

    Joe usually goes shopping to different supermarkets with flyers on sales and stuff, he enjoys this while I am at work.

    Today he decided to go to Shop-Rite looking for stuff that is on the weekly flyers, and he happened to see that they had Knorr’s chicken/beef bouillon’s for sale 2 for $1.00. So he picked up two and with the rest of the groceries proceeded towards the register.

    We live in a mostly “white” neighborhood so when he got to the register, he noticed that the two boxes of bouillon registered at $1.49 each. So Joe asked the cashier how come the price was $1.49 for each, when in the flyer it said 2 for $1.00. So the cashier looked at the flyer and looked at the bouillon that Joe was holding and she said………I wonder why the price is different? It registers at $1.49, …. while the lady searches and searches, she finally figures it out and says to my husband Oh! The reason for the difference in price is because the ones on sale are the ones that say “cubitos” in Spanish. So Joe just looks at her and says huh? What do you mean? So the cashier says if you pick the ones that says bouillon in Spanish those are the ones that are on sale.

    The ones that have one word in Spanish…..So Joe says I don’t need the ones that say bouillon in Spanish, I can read English and they should both be priced the same. So between him and the cashier they end up in an argument about price. So she says, Sir do you want the bouillons or not? My husband says Oh yes I do want the bouillons but the ones that say bouillons in English, for the same price as the ones that are pandering to Hispanics. He says I believe that this is discriminating against white Americans, why are you charging them more for their Knorrs bouillons in English and cheaper because it reads it in Spanish when its the same freaking brand?

    My husband then says I am not moving out of here until the bouillons in English are priced the same as the ones labeled in Spanish because they are the same brand which is Knorrs and if I wanted to read bouillons in Spanish I would’ve gone to the Goya isle. There is no need for that, we speak English in this country.

    In the meantime their are people waiting behind him listening to this argument, which in the meantime he apologized to the woman behind him but to his surprise she was agreeing with him. She said this man is absolutely right. So she said go ahead Sir I am with you, and then other people in the supermarket backed up my husband and realized his concern.

    My husband said to the cashier I am making a big deal about this because this has got to stop. This is discriminating against white and black Americans, and making them pay more just because of a couple of words in Spanish in a stupid label that it is not necessary. The manager comes out, listens and tells Joe that he can pay the same price for the Knorrs bouillons and then my husband says thank you, and by the way I am a Hispanic and there is no need to separate white Americans from Hispanics, for that is discrimination. Thank you. Some white Americans are not realizing that this is the way of taking over America…….take away the English language and where will the white Americans go?

    After that my husband called me at work all upset and said Carmen we have got to bring this out in the open and make our American people see that if our English language goes so do they.

    Carmen www.dontspeakforme.org

    Contact Shop Rite here to let them know how you feel and while at it, also contact Knorr

    (732) 906-5155

    corpcomm@wakefern.com

    Knorr Customer Service (800) 457-7082″

  6. Advocator said on 12 Sep 2007 at 10:17 am: Flag comment

    Patriot:

    Actually, I’m glad to see the store was trying to get rid of its Spanish labelled stuff. It means it’s not selling as well as it used to. Another indicator the July 10 Resolution is having an effect and illegals are finding more accomodating jurisdictions to move into.

    Ari: I think you meant that PWC is at an unfair “dis”advantage due to the Dillon Rule. Can’t see how that anachronism is an advantage, except that it might prompt some state legislators to engage where they might otherwise leave it up to localities to establish a patchwork of rules.

  7. Michael said on 12 Sep 2007 at 11:45 am: Flag comment

    I applaud Carlos and Joe for speaking up about divisive racial, ethnic, gender and religious seperatist concepts. Yes, any alignment and attempt to separate people into political, economic, language, and cultural groups is “discrimmination”. This works both ways whether one group is attempting to oppress another by discrimmination and demeaning and degrading separatism, or one group is attempting to achieve superiority or supremacy over another by demanding special laws, rights and privileges the other group is not entitled to. Joe’s issue is an equal protection under the law, entitlement issue. The ethnic community privilege rule he is objecting to is an enthic group supremacy issue. It is also illegal according to the 14th amendment and the US Constitution. This is why so many people don’t get this issue. It is about deporting “illegal” people, regardless of race, religion, gender or ethnic group. These “illegal” people are DANGEROUS to our society in so many ways and they are extremely devisive. These people are also composed of Terrorist Organizations, and sleeper cell infiltrators who are also “illegals” working inside our community to destroy it from within, if they can’t destroy it from outside our border.

    You ignorant politicians (you and the public know who you are, the one’s supporting “illegal” activity) need to give the Citizens of Prince William County and Manassas city some CREDIT! WE are fighting and risking our lives by personal local exposure to terrorists, criminals, gang members, and angry racial, ethnic, gender or religious hate group members who would do us harm. We are doing this in defense of this nation, our homes, our community and in protection of our children, alongside our courageous border patrol, community police and our even more courageous and honored soldiers fighting terrorism beyond our soil. If you are a politician and you don’t understand you are an impediment to our ability to defend our nation, our state and our local community (listen carefully Gov Tim Kaine, and Armstrong, Moran), you are not fit for office nor fit for the defense and protection of this nation’s citizens. What happens here will protect and secure people everywhere in this NATION! If just one of those illegal terrorist cells living and operating under covert cover in PWC, Manassas, or any other county in the state successfully executes another attack in our nations interior, YOU will be held accountable.

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