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Mark Warner’s Haunting Record

By Greg L | 12 September 2007 | Illegal Aliens, US Senate | 28 Comments

It seems like a lot of Democrats are excited about Mark Warner possibly announcing his intention to run for the United States Senate seat being vacated by John Warner. If they took a closer look at his record on some of the hot issues today, they might find reason to be a little less exuberant about this.

As Governor, Mark Warner vetoed legislation that would have prohibited public colleges in Virginia from offering in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens, using the same goofy line that Brian Moran thought was so important to deliver that he skipped a committee meeting on mental health commitment procedures.

“Gov. Mark Warner vetoed legislation Wednesday that would prohibit public colleges from offering in-state tuition rates to undocumented aliens, saying the legislation would inflame anti-immigrant sentiments and have ‘no substantive effect.’”[1]

“The bill had been a high-profile piece of Attorney General Jerry Kilgore’s legislative agenda. Kilgore acknowledged Wednesday that existing state and federal laws already prohibit undocumented aliens from receiving in-state tuition benefits. But, he said, ‘the intent of this legislation was to clarify those existing laws for our colleges and universities.’”[2]

Warner tried to amend this bill after it roared out of the General Assembly with bipartisan majorities to carve out some vague exemptions for groups of illegal aliens that he considered “deserving”. After the General Assembly rejected this attempt to gut this legislation, he vetoed it.

“Gov. Mark Warner has amended legislation that would deny in-state tuition to undocumented immigrants attending Virginia colleges, rejecting the outright ban sought by Attorney General Jerry Kilgore and the Republican-controlled General Assembly.

“The Democratic governor concluded that lawmakers went too far in passing a bill (HB 2239) that would prohibit public colleges from charging in-state tuition rates to all undocumented aliens. Both houses of the legislature passed the measure by wide margins and rejected efforts to limit its effectiveness.

“But Warner said Saturday that he will ask lawmakers to approve an exception for ‘a small and deserving group of students’ who satisfy specific requirements.

“The exception would apply to students who have graduated from a Virginia high school, lived in the state for at least five years and are seeking legal immigration status. Students or their parents also must show that they have paid state income taxes for at least three years, Warner said.”[3]

Question: if there isn’t a problem with illegal aliens attending our public universities, why would Mark Warner have felt compelled to seek exemptions for some of them? If it wasn’t an issue then, and then suddenly became an issue later on when he sought to amend this bill, and now we hear that it’s suddenly reverted to not being an issue, can we take any of this continuing silliness seriously? C’mon, Democrats, make up your minds already!

Mark Warner, your amnesty for illegal aliens candidate. Didn’t the public recently have a discussion about this with their senators?

References:

[1] Michael Sluss, “Warner Vetoes Immigrant Tuition Bill,” Roanoke Times, May 1, 2003
[2] Michael Sluss, “Warner Vetoes Immigrant Tuition Bill,” Roanoke Times, May 1, 2003
[3] Michael Sluss, “Warner Amends Widely Supported Bill Regarding Illegal Aliens’ Tuition; Legislation Would Prohibit Public Colleges From Charging In-State Tuition Rates To Undocumented Aliens, Roanoke Times, March 23, 2003



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28 Comments

  1. The Richmond Democrat said on 12 Sep 2007 at 12:41 pm:
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    Greg:

    Where do you stand on the Gilmore versus Davis race? Will the RPV nominate Gilmore or Davis, and how will they do it, convention or primary?

  2. Bwana said on 12 Sep 2007 at 1:58 pm:
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    Shoot…why don’t we at least let them announce their candidacies before we start picking sides ;-)

  3. Riley, Not O'Reilly said on 12 Sep 2007 at 4:23 pm:
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    Marky Mark and his Flunky Bunch haven’t seen anything yet…

  4. citizenofmanassas said on 12 Sep 2007 at 4:24 pm:
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    Well, he did annouce today he is running for Senator.

    I suppose he can just lie again about taxes, guns, illegal aliens etc. Why would we expect a Democrat not to lie in order to win an election.

  5. Anonymous said on 12 Sep 2007 at 5:30 pm:
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    And Jim Gilmore didn’t lie about the car tax. Still paying it? In a head to head Warner will be Gilmore everytime.

  6. BL said on 12 Sep 2007 at 7:04 pm:
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    The vast majority of Americans desperately want our borders protected — and we want it done now. We are weary of the excuses and empty promises put forward by the Republican National Committee, the White House, and the Democratic leadership on this vital issue of national, economic, and cultural security.

    We do not understand why, even after the devastating attacks on September 11, our government still allows hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens to cross our borders every year. We do not want our public schools burdened with a massive influx of non-English speaking children of parents who broke our laws. We are livid that our health care costs skyrocket year after year as illegal immigrants take advantage of free health care at emergency rooms across the country. We are astounded to see the resurgence of diseases we thought we had long since conquered, such as tuberculosis, carried by illegal aliens who enter the country without any medical screening. We are horrified to learn how the illegal alien invasion feeds crime and gang activity in our country. We are fed up with a government that has ignored our wishes on an issue that will transform every major aspect of our lives — imperiling America’s future.

    Why is there such a split between elite and popular opinion on immigration and border enforcement? One big reason is that regular people pride themselves on being Americans, while the elites pride themselves on being cosmopolitan (from Greek words basically meaning citizen of the world). Additionally, the specific costs of open borders do not hit the elites as hard as they hit the working class. Case in point: illegal immigrant crime. To listen to the open border advocates and the dinosaur media, one would think that every illegal immigrant living here is like celebrity dog-trainer Cesar Millan (a.k.a. “The Dog Whisperer”). Illegally in this country — yes, but also entrepreneurial, ambitious, and law-abiding. The “local illegal does good” sob stories have gotten old fast. You’d think establishment politicians and the New York Times would be embarrassed to keep pouring it on, but they aren’t.

    The simple fact is that illegal immigration has ravaged entire communities with increases in violent and drug-related crime, and in these areas the system is on the verge of being totally overwhelmed. Yet you would never know this by watching the evening news or reading most of the newspapers. When is the last time CBS or the New York Times, reported on violent crime committed by illegal immigrants? Perhaps they are too busy doing stories on how difficult life is for the illegal immigrant — or the rare case when deportation separates a parent from a child born in the U.S. Fox News Channel’s Geraldo Rivera loves these stories.

    In 2005, the GAO studied a sample of illegal alien criminals… and found an average of eight arrests and thirteen offenses per criminal alien. The audit examined one hundred criminal cases involving illegal immigrants, and found that seventy-three illegals accounted for 429 arrests, 878 charges, and 241 convictions.

    Gangs comprised of illegals, such as the deadly Salvadoran MS-13, have been terrorizing communities from Northern Virginia to Long Island since the 1980s. Their crimes range from human and drug trafficking, murder (often by machete), rape, extortion, and armed robbery. MS-13 is now the most powerful gang in America and operates in more than thirty states.

    The more we learn about illegal immigration’s devastating consequences for our country — our schools, our health care system, our prison population — the more many of us feel abandoned and cheated by the people who were supposed to represent us in Washington. Why did President Bush lobby so passionately for “comprehensive immigration reform” when an overwhelming majority in his own party and even a majority of Democrats didn’t want it? And why didn’t he work so hard on issues conservatives cared about — cutting government spending and defeating McCain-Feingold, to name a few?

  7. anon said on 12 Sep 2007 at 7:44 pm:
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    COM

    Do you have anything to back up your statement that Democrats that run for office lie?

  8. Anonymous said on 12 Sep 2007 at 8:08 pm:
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    Do you have anything to prove that one has ever told the truth?

  9. Anonymous said on 12 Sep 2007 at 8:16 pm:
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    Does anyone really think that Warner will do LESS than Allen about illegals?

    Keep in mind, Allen, Wolf and J Davis - not to mention all the rest of the Virginia republicans have had lock jaw when it comes to jailing the criminals who employ illegals.

    They steadfastly refuse to touch the issue.

  10. Scott's Morning Brew said on 12 Sep 2007 at 8:19 pm:
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    Mark Warner FOR Illegal Aliens…

    Greg L at BVBL has a nice piece on Mark Warners attempt to water down a bill that had a huge amount of bipartisan support to allow illegal aliens to pay in-state tuition at our colleges and universities.
    Greg states:
    Warner tried to amend this bill aft…

  11. anon said on 12 Sep 2007 at 8:27 pm:
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    John Glenn is considered by some to be quite an American hero. You think otherwise?

  12. Anonymous said on 12 Sep 2007 at 8:50 pm:
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    you mean the same John Glenn that was caught up in the Keating scandal? That John Glenn?

  13. monticup said on 12 Sep 2007 at 9:01 pm:
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    John Glenn of the Keating 5 got off scot free. He was a mindless Democrat robot.
    How about Eric Cantor against Warner?

  14. citizenofmanassas said on 12 Sep 2007 at 9:36 pm:
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    To the Anons,

    How did Gilmore lie about the car tax? He cannot help the fact the GA has failed to fully implement his plan.

    Timmy Kaine lied about not wanting to raise taxes before looking at other solutions for transportation. Bill Clinton lied, I could go on, but really think it is funny you do not think they lie.

  15. The Planner said on 12 Sep 2007 at 9:59 pm:
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    BL - Gee, you forgot to mention a lot of dread deceases the illegals bring in like polio, chagas, HIV, malaria, etc. And, of course, pedophilia is REALLY prevalent.

    My suggestion a couple of years ago to designate about 200 yards inside the border with Mexico as no-mans-land and stuff it with nice little land mines was never studied. That ought to have taken care of most, but not all, heading north. It would have been the border patrol’s duty to pick up the pieces, though.

    If a fence were to be built I suggested a roller on top like they had on the Berlin wall. Very difficult to climb over. But, nobody listened to me, and just see what we have now, and how much more expensive it is!

  16. Bryanna said on 12 Sep 2007 at 10:08 pm:
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    “How about Eric Cantor against Warner?”

    Congressman Cantor is the best Republican candidate to run against Mark Warner for Senate.

    He has an impeccable record of accomplishments, genuinely cares, has solid family values, strongly advocates state-of-the-art technology and is genius when it comes to economic development. He has my vote!

  17. Virginia Brigand said on 13 Sep 2007 at 10:54 am:
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    Davis is the only acceptable candidate.

  18. Virginia Brigand said on 13 Sep 2007 at 10:58 am:
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    But this is a losing contest against Warner and thus I’d rather sink Gilmore than Davis.

  19. The Patriot said on 13 Sep 2007 at 11:31 am:
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    We don’t need another “Amnesty Warner”

  20. The Patriot said on 13 Sep 2007 at 11:49 am:
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    Side NOTE:…for those of you who have signed the Tim Kaine petition…don’t forget to have your spouses sign too! I have noticed a lot of single names on it. The more the better!

  21. John said on 13 Sep 2007 at 1:57 pm:
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    We Virginia Dems relish the idea of a Gilmore candidacy. I would love to watch the two of them stand on the same stage and compare records. The Reactionary Buffoon vs. the Competent Executive. Warner left office with a stellar approval record. He’d steamroll Gilmore. Ha ha ha ha!

  22. Dave said on 13 Sep 2007 at 2:07 pm:
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    Yea, I live in a fairly conservative part of the state, and you don’t ever hear anyone speak highly of Gilmore. He’s toast before he begins.
    Virginia’s going to go from having two of the best known Republicans in the senate to two rising star Dems in the course of two years.
    Accountability is a bitch.

  23. Virginia Brigand said on 13 Sep 2007 at 2:16 pm:
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    Gilmore had a better shot at the presidency than he has at this senate race.

  24. citizenofmanassas said on 13 Sep 2007 at 4:41 pm:
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    John,

    Do you approve of people who lie? Funny how Warner had to adopt a nascar lifestyle in South side Virginny in order to win. If his liberal politics are such a winner he would not have had to resort to a makeover in order to gain votes.

  25. Legal2 said on 13 Sep 2007 at 6:08 pm:
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    Wasn’t it about 2 years ago, that Manassas City appealed to then-Gov Warner, to address the state of emergency of overcrowding, etc., of illegal aliens? And Warner responded that there was no problem…

  26. John said on 14 Sep 2007 at 2:14 pm:
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    citizen, you mean like New England Bush and his “folksy, southern charm”? Hahahahahaha!

  27. Richard Lee said on 16 Sep 2007 at 9:12 pm:
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    John, you must enjoy your attempt at humor with your hahahahaha’s… Mark Warner is bad for Virginia taxpayers. He’s bad for the economy and if the people of Virginia make the same mistake with Mark Warner that they did with Jim Webb, I feel sorry for everyone. Electing Jim Webb over George Allen was absolutely wrong for the state. I still can’t believe the people of Virginia were stupid enough to elect Webb. Tell me one thing this arrogant individual has done for Virginia, or the United States. Nothing… Hey Jim, how’s that new book coming since the taxpayers of Virginia are paying you to write it? Eric Cantor has a stellar record in Congress and if he chooses to run, I think Marky Mark might as well stay home. Warner can’t be trusted, and George Bush being in the White House should have nothing to do with this election. The problem with Bush is he has liberal tendencies. It’s time for the voters of Virginia to learn something about the candidate’s position before they vote. I think a test before you vote should be required and if you really don’t know what the candidate stands for, you don’t vote. Here’s an idea, how about we hold elected officials accountable for their campaign promises! How would that be, “I will not raise taxes”. Who made that promise and then pushed through the largest, and by the way, unnecessary tax increase in the history of the Commonwealth? I’ll give you one guess…

  28. Jay Leno said on 18 Sep 2007 at 10:17 pm:
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    “The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true given the source, right?

    The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed and 69 percent of the country is unhappy with the performance of the president. In essence 2/3s of the citizenry just ain’t happy and want a change.

    So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking, ”What we are so unhappy about?”

    Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter? Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job? Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?

    Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move through each state? Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter? I guess having thousa nds of restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough. Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all and even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.

    Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home. You may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family and your belongings. Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler intrudes , an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90 percent of teenagers own cell phones and computers.

    How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world? Maybe that is what has
    67 percent of folks unhappy.

    Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. , yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don’t have , and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.

    I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The president who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this the same president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful peoples safe from terrorist attacks?

    The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me? Did you hear how bad the President is on the news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn’t take a look around for yourself and see all the good things and be glad?

    Think about it……are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the “Media” told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful excuses every day.

    Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They didn’t have to go.

    They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ”general” discharge, an ”other than honorable” discharge or, worst case scenario, a ”dishonorable” discharge after a few days in the brig.

    So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of Americans? Say what you want but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds it leads and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells , and when criticized, try to defend their actions by “justifying” them in one way or another. Just ask why they tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about how he didn’t kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this way……Insane!

    Stop buying the negativism you are fed everyday by the media. Shut off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as a country. There is exponentially more good than bad.

    We are among the most blessed people on Earth and should thank God several times a day, or at least be thankful and appreciative.”

    “With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, “Are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?”

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