Yard Sign Shenanigans Already Starting
By Greg L | 13 September 2007 | Crime | 81 Comments
Now that candidates have their yard signs popping up all over, the shenanigan season is getting into full swing as irresponsible activists start to destroy or deface signs of candidates they don’t support. The current hotbed of this activity seems to be in Fairfax County at this point, where folks have been seeing Ken Cuccinelli’s signs on Centerville Road getting knocked down by persons described as Hispanic in appearance as they were walking home from work. Not surprisingly, all of Oleszek’s signs were left alone. I’d hope that Janet’s campaign will get the word out to their supporters that this behavior is unacceptable.
Last season there was plenty of this by activists on both sides. The Manassas GOP Headquarters was trashed in one incident, it’s signs damaged in another incident, and in another a banner opposing the marriage amendment at the BRUU was stolen. Another incident in Manassas Park resulted in hundreds of signs being destroyed. A significant portion of Jackson Miller’s yard signs were stolen or destroyed last year. I’ve no tolerance for this, by anyone, for any purpose.
Should this really ramp up like it did last year, I’ve got a message for the criminals out there intent on destroying property in order to advance a political agenda: don’t be surprised if some of the locations where these signs are placed will be under surveillance this year. Start destroying property, and you may well have evidence of your crime turned over to law enforcement so they can prosecute your sorry carcass to the fullest extent of the law. If it’s going to take making a few people into examples in order to get this under control, so be it.
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Also, once the footage is in….if they are illegal…deport…deport…deport!
I’ll be watching my signs, that’s for sure!!!
The video and digital cameras are ready for action as always.
I travel that part of 28 often, and I have seen signs for both candidates that have appeared to have been tampered with.
I have a neighbor who during the 2004 election cycle took down a bunch of Bush signs(he placed them under his front stoop) that were in the neighborhood on common property. He used the excuse they were not permitted, which I suppose is the case. However, I asked him if he would do the same for Kerry signs, he said no. A bit of selective enforcement on his part.
If you need volunteers for surveillance, count me in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iMuwv5nr40&mode=related&search=
This is what we are dealing with! Note the foreign flags, signs, etc. All in plain view (especially for the liberals…since they just don’t seem to get it!).
Patriot -
If after watching that video - if people STILL don’t think we have an invasion going on - then they don’t have brain cells ! We’ve GOT to stop this craziness NOW!
I agree Manassas! It is all on the video. Additionally, there are many many many more videos taken from different parts of our country showing the same things!!!!
patriot & mcr
Count me in too!!!
I also, heard of candidates signs removed at polling places during the Primary. This was done at the hands of PWC-employee. Only, republic signs were removed. What a place this has become. I’m still proud to say it’s my hometown.
manassascityresident,
Of course if we just give them legal status, all the problems would go away… People who defend illegals simply refuse to see any issue with illegals except our “unfair” immigration laws.
When can we expect to see businesses start getting shut down? We need to start seeing some action…NOW! Has someone talked to the BOCS about the timeline?
http://media.www.kstatecollegian.com/media/storage/paper1022/news/2007/09/11/Opinion/Illegal.Immigrants.Bring.Diseases.Into.States-2960741.shtml
This is still a BIG issue! Medical screening is a MUST! One person that gets infected is one too many! Because there are no visual outward symptoms, this is more of a threat! Particularly for our kids in schools!
Signs, signs, everywhere there’s signs…
I remember working on the Vic Poillucci as Campaign Manager back in ‘95 and I had put his signs up along Minniville Road. Needless to say, the very next day they were all down and I was told that that is JENKINS terrority. I told them, “So what, I WON’T back down from a fight.” so I put more signs in their place.
What needs to happen is to have EVERY jurisdiction/county on the same sheet of music because what is legal in Fairfax is not in Prince William County. Fairfax can put signs in the median, PW cannot. So, when candidate get volunteers from other parts of Virginia to put signs up, they are placed where it is against local law and then the candidate gets trashed, just like the signs.
Yes, the onus is on the candidate to clue in the Captains who will pass it on to the workers, but we have a lot of clueless candidates out there as well who don’t know all the laws and regulations.
I lost my Miller yard sign last year, but I thought it was due to high winds, since my neighbor’s Halloween display was destroyed during the same wind storm. The plastic sleeve simply blew off the metal frame. Now I wonder. I do live around the corner from the Rishells, after all! I hope Miller has sturdier signs this year.
Patriot,
Thanks for the video link. This is proof that the illegals biggest enemy are the illegals themselves.
http://www.teamtancredo.com/tancredo_tomtv_index.asp?YouTubeID=95
Tom Tancredo addresses sanctuary cities! There is a part II also.
http://www.teamtancredo.com/tancredo_tomtv_index.asp?YouTubeID=97
Here is a video of Tom Tancredo discussing the recent Democratic debates in Spanish!
http://www.teamtancredo.com/tancredo_tomtv_index.asp?YouTubeID=94
Tom Tancredo addresses his debate with Republicans (particularly calling them out on their “conversions”???)
COM -
I hear ya - it’s all mind blowing. How did we as a nation (our elected officials) let it get this bad. Thank God, we’ve got people who are willing to speak out and DEMAND that the laws that are already in place are enforced!
I’m replacing my existing cell phone with a camera phone - it will be ready at a moment’s notice to catch perpetrators.
manassascityresident,
Too many of our elected officials have failed not just at this but many other responsibilities they have. Some support illegals because they see a new source of votes and were supporting amnesty knowing full well those illegals would one day be Citizens.
Patriot: Can you find the video of a protest (I think it may have been in Houston) where the mayor of LA, some college professor and a bunch of other ‘dignitaries’ are spewing hatred for America? There is audio of the mayor of LA shouting ‘everything for the race, nothing for outside the race!’ That’s the video that is sure to fire you up!
Lafayette said on 13 Sep 2007 at 1:37 pm:
ALL
Show the Honorable John Stirrup your support, please visit..
votestirrup@comcast.net
Contact them about a sign, bumper sticker and/or volunteer to help with the campaign.
Haymarket Day this Saturday 9/15/2007.
Parade starts at 10am
Thanks to John, and his entire excellent staff. Keep up the great work, we are behind to all.
Bob, there are way too many videos (all showing similar things). The funny thing is…all the liberals seem to be “in the dark” even when the evidence is presented in clear visual/audio form! Additionally, the fact that these videos are from different parts of the country speaks volumes (negating the “its only a small isolated group” argument).
corr
We are behind YOU ALL.
Patriot,
Most liberals when provided proof will just brush it off as just a few folks out of millions who support illegals.
Bob Sentz
Lafayette said on 13 Sep 2007 at 1:32 pm:
Bob S
I will be getting some Stirrup signs today or tomorrow. I will let you know as soon as I get them, and get one to you right away. I’ll see if I can’t my hands on a Corey sign or two.
Lafayette;Thank you!
By the way the Ice cream cart guys are back i have been seeing them on Lomond Dr. My wife just called me and said she saw another just now. Any word on if these guys are licensed yet. I just called what sounded like a reluctant police dispatcher.
PWCHomeowner,
I saw the old guy with his cart, as Stonewall Middle was letting out at the corner of Lomond Dr & Urbana Rd. When, I turned on Lomond, I saw a PWPD car. I then pulled over asked the officers to please check this guy out. School is letting out and West Gate Elem. will be letting out shortly. I told them I saw the license on the cart, but no photo ID around his neck. They went right away and checked him out. I guess he was ok, I saw him a right after and the photo was around the neck. Oh, yes this was one of the first officers that was contacted about the pushcarts. The police actually got rid of these guys pretty quick with lots of calls from citizens. Did the police ever come?
How did a blog post about defacing, destroying, and damaging signs during the political season devolve into (yet another) string of illegal alien posts? Talk about hijacking threads….
“How did a blog post about defacing, destroying, and damaging signs during the political season devolve into (yet another) string of illegal alien posts?”
That’s what happens when you blame everything on “persons described as Hispanic in appearance”, come to think of it wasn’t that gun store break-in initially blamed on “Hispanics” by Greg, hard to remember as the post appears to have disappeared. Funny, saw a picture of the suspect in the paper, looked like he could speak pretty good English, just don’t know if he could write.
“looked like he could speak pretty good English, just don’t know if he could write.” Really, how can YOU tell by looking? Hmmm?
Hmmm, caucasian, bad haircut, multiple tatoos, anglo name, bears all the markings of a “legal” illiterate redneck. I bought the “Redneck ESP” package from the same manufacturer that sold you your “Illegals” package, guess you didn’t need the redneck package since you have your family tree to rely on.
Here’s what THEY look like:
http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?page_id=810
Who is really racist here…Anonymous?
Patriot: BTW the video posted above is the one I was looking for. Notice the elected officials spewing their hatred!! And we’re the racists!! Kiss my grits!!!
Anon,
Thanks for once again showing who the true haters are. BTW, how do you know the guy was not an illegal alien? You know they do come from other areas of the World besides Central America.
You take the cake. You want to bash anyone but illegals, and then engage in the same type of bashing you claim others are doing.
I suppose you use the N word to describe blacks right? Or, do you just use racial names for whites?
How about the break in of the hispanic business on 28? The suspects are hispanic. Using your logic, they must be illegals.
Anonymous 3:30 post
The English probably wasn’t ‘good’ English but a bastardization of the king’s English. Otherwise, I agree, rednecks are fairly easy to spot.
Dolph: Just exactly what does a redneck look like?
And, why is it okay to use a derogatory term like redneck and not others?
BS,
You live in Manassas and have to ask?
Well, actually Dolph, by Anonymous’ definition I would be a redneck…and I take exception to that. You realize that by his/her definition, ALL of us would be rednecks…you should take exception as well.
Hmmm… I was in Fairfax County yesterday. The number of candidate signs littering the right of ways was appalling. These signs are illegal. It is immature to go after one candidate’s signs. It is immature to damage them selectively. It is however, I doubt, illegal to remove them as they have been placed illegally within the right of ways (they are fine and dandy on private property.
I have no problem with anyone removing these signs from right of ways. PWC and VDOT workers will do it during routine clean ups. Citizens can help out by doing it themselves. Then call the politicians placing the signs illegally and complain about them breaking the law.
Popsicle Signs Suck - popsiclesignssuck.vitter.com
Actually I was using my own definition. Anonymous probably has higher standards than I do.
Dolph,
Yes, exactly what does a redneck look like? I must say, you have a way of working both sides of the rude aisle as you do the illegal alien aisle.
I consider myself to be a redneck…. what exactly do I look like?
OH no!!! The Mexican Menace, ruining our democracy!
Dolph, I ask again:
Just exactly what does a redneck look like?
And, why is it okay to use a derogatory term like redneck and not others?
I truly take exception to the Manassas jibe!!
Dolph just showed his/her position! Riding the fence on the illegal alien issue. I would also like to know exactly what a “redneck” looks like. Please explain Dolph?
Dolph…isn’t “redneck” profiling?
I guess a redneck looks like the pictures in the comedy books “You must be a redneck if”.
I find it an interesting statement, that the only ethnic group you can still poke fun at and get away with is the ethnic group represented in this book. Imagine the outragous response if these images were replaced with any other image or ethnic group reference. This is what is so wrong with American ethnic, racial, gender, religious division lines for arguments, debates, humor and satire. Ultimately it is degrading to someone.
WHEN will we learn that the only way out of this mess is to start regarding people as individuals and not allow them to belong to ethnic, racial, gender and religious divisive groups, and to stop beating them up along those lines, INCLUDING the majority group getting beat up.
When will they ever learn?
I still want to know Dolph’s answer!
I also want to know if Dolph thinks calling someone a “redneck” is profiling! Answer these questions Dolph…
If you all don’t recognize it when you see it, then don’t worry about it.
I never called anyone a redneck but I do recognize the condition and it isn’t always a visual.
Patriot, I don’t know the answer to your question. I suppose it depends on who is doing the calling and who is being called. I do not disapprove of profiling in many cases so I am not a good person to ask. Check with Jeff Foxworthy. He is the authority.
Perhaps those who were offended by the term redneck would have been happier if the store robber had been called white trash or a thug. That condition is pretty easy to pick out also.
Michael, I think I agree with you. Operative word, think. I certainly to not align myself with ALL white people, for obvious reasons.
Certainly those white people in Logan County West Virginia who tortured the black woman do not represent me or my race. Their behavior is reprehensible. Same with Timotht McVay. You get my drift here….
I think many other special groups would be far better off if they didn’t automatically throw in with the masses over race or nationality or a miriad of other group commonalities.
rednecks leave their Christmas light on their front porch ALL year long…..:) according to Gretchen Wilson’s song
Well, there one “redneck” homsestead on Sudley Manor. The back and side deck looks nicely stain and stable. The front of the house the porch isn’t lookin so stable, and really could use a coat or two of stain. I saw the “man” of the house leave his truck door open on Sudley Manor, I wonder if that was a “redneck” speed bump?
Dolph: Okay, I can’t get your definition of a redneck, how about the question: Is it okay the use the derogatory term redneck and not other derogatory terms?
BS,
I really don’t care what terms you use. Why do you care what I think?
Dolph
Can you help me out with the “redneck” speed bump thing?
Lafayette,
There is simply no answer to the redneck speed bump. That might have been the result of a different root cause. I prefer the Yogi Bear rednecks myself.
Dolph,
Well, thanks for not leaving me in limbo like the gentlemen before me.
Oh, let’s not forget the Santa Maria, Nina and Pinta over on King George. No work going on the yestrday or today, two of the ships sailed.
Dolph, I think the point people are trying to make with you is that name calling, especially when associated with a racial, ethnic, gender or religious group is inflammatory, degrading, offensive, and divisive, and we need to replace it with another concept not along those lines if we don’t agree with the behavior of the “individual”. Thinking about individuals is hard. Individuals however, commit crimes, and are thus “illegal”. They should not be associated with a racial, ethnic, gender, religious group or name calling as such. They should be called simply “criminal”. If people on this forum would just think like that, we would not have the polarization and deranged brow beating that goes on between people of one ethnic position, trying to beat up on people of another ethnic position. I see it here all the time and try to stop it so we can make some real progress in the eyes of the public that we are considerate, rational citizens trying to stop the effects of “illegality” on our community. I’m worried about the people in all ethnic, racial, gender, and religious groups who are breaking our laws and hurting us.
Please, please help me and others, all of you to stay this course if we are ever going to get the general public respect, and especially politcal respect from our lawmakers to solve this “illegal” problem and its consequences on our community. I firmly believe Greg and most of those of you who politely argue believe this as well, as do most of the members of HSM. If they do not we will educate them or kick them out. I’m not a member yet, so I have no say in this, but will soon join them.
Michael…..hello…I have not called anyone a redneck. I have thought it, but to my knowledge, the thought police are not out in full force. I am not going to apologize for calling anyone a redneck because I have not done so. If anyone is offended that I used the term, get over it.
You are falling for the old weasel words entrapment on here. I know the point being made, and it has nothing to do with using the term redneck. Had I called Bill Clinton or Nancy Lyall a redneck, I would have gotten a standing ovation.
Dolph,
Now Dolph pulls it in. Such jumping skills.
Lafayette
Don’t know if they came, my wife phoned me while i was watching the kids.
Well THIS Macacca is getting VERY upset with all the hate on here
Bill Clinton is NOT a redneck!!!! He owns a cat, let’s his woman push him around, never served his country (unless that country is Mother Russia), and has NO IDEA how to tune a car engine - lol
Craig - get a grip…no laws were broken and WHAT is your fixation on “the right of way”??? Did you know that not even VDOT can give a decent definition of that term? Maybe you should protest.
PWCHomeowner
I doubt they did. Did you call the Non-Emergency number, they seem to think these pushcarts are ok. Well, they are NOT, my daughter walks to Stonewall Middle, as do the students of WestGate Elem. and Sudley Elem. Keep calling. We still do over here.
John,
Actually Craig is right here. The PWC Code defines the right of way in regards to signage pretty clearly, and mandates an 18 foot separation between signs and a paved surface. Since there are very few places where you can legally post in a right of way and have that required separation, just about all signage in the right of way is likely to be unlawful.
The rules are different in Manassas and Manassas Park, though. The park is a free-for-all.
Greg,
Actually, Craig is wrong. He was referring to Fairfax County NOT PWC. The rules are different in the two counties. As I stated elsewhere, I believe there should be a standard throughout the state to alieviate any confusion, but until that time, Craig needs to make sure that he knows the rules for each county. PWC, last time I checked, will NOT let you put signs in the median. Fairfax County, on the otherhand, will.
“dolph said on 13 Sep 2007 at 4:48 pm:
Anonymous 3:30 post
The English probably wasn’t ‘good’ English but a bastardization of the king’s English. Otherwise, I agree, rednecks are fairly easy to spot.”
Dolph…nice try in avoiding my questions! According to your statement above regarding how easy it is to spot a “redneck”….you certainly must have criteria established to do this “spotting”! Afterall, “spotting” is identifying something via visual cues!
Greg L
PWC Code defines many things. However, the enforcement is not always complete, and is the problem. Of course, regarding siganage Michelle Casiatio and her crew will enforce that code, because it generates REVENUE!! Ms. C, mentioned $9,000 of revunue generated by signs. Well, her and PCE should work that hard on the Zoning violations called in are WestGate/Sudley.
That’s Fairfax’s problem that they allow these signs. I think it looks disgusting. Go drive down New Braddock Rd between Rts. 28 & 123. What an eye sore.
Thanks PWC for keeping a medians clear of these signs.
I’m sure glad I’m allowed to have signs in my front yard though. Aren’t you?
Dolph….care to comment on my recent post above?
” PWC, last time I checked, will NOT let you put signs in the median. Fairfax County, on the otherhand, will.”
Isn’t this up to VDOT?
MP Resident,
No it is NOT up to VDOT.
The local Board of Supervisors, or Council, and theymake the the local zoning laws.
PW wants to keep it’s median clean and green.
Fairfax on the other hand doesn’t seem to mind the medians peppered with popsicle signs.
Well, I guess we are also leading the way in front on Fairfax on this front too! Boy, what’s happened to Fairfax?
Maybe we up in Fairfax allow the signs in the median to help the illegals hide and catch a breath as they run across the parkway playing real life frogger!!!
John Light - can you get any lower than that?
I guess you never saw the signs in the border states that they have up. You know the “falling rocks” signs that you see when driving thru the mountain side, well, in places like Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, they have the yellow diamond signs with the sillouettes of families running across the road.
If I wanted to get lower, I would have to start quoting YOU.
I like those signs. They make great kindling and tinder for campfires.
“Maybe we up in Fairfax allow the signs in the median to help the illegals hide and catch a breath as they run across the parkway playing real life frogger!!”
You have some really short people up there!