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Debate Tonight

By Greg L | 20 September 2007 | 52nd HOD District, Prince William County | 14 Comments

There’s going to be an important debate tonight between candidates for the 52nd House District, and Woodbridge Supervisor, hosted by the Prince William Committee of 100.  Watch for some big fireworks.  I won’t be able to make it tonight, but hopefully some of the attendees can report on their impressions in the comments section.

The debate will be held at the Elks Lodge at 14602 Minnieville Road in Woodbridge.  The debates start at 7:45, and the candidates for the 52nd District will go first.  For more information, visit the PWC Committee of 100 website.

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  1. MdMan said on 20 Sep 2007 at 12:47 pm:
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    Long time fan, first time poster here. If anyone cares to lay some more smack down on the pro-illegal folks in a different venue, MOCO Progressive finally has a good dialogue going in its second subject, which started yesterday. My letter was the catalyst, and a Casa of MD attorney has engaged. The last comment by Bemused, who clearly is a charlatan when it comes to this topic, needs some serious smack-back talk.

    Love what y’all are doing in VA.


  2. Jonathan Mark said on 20 Sep 2007 at 1:08 pm:
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    Remember to ask the Republican candidate if he supports Faisal Gill. The PWCRC requires all Gill-opposing Republican candidates to respond to such questions with “I support all Republican nominees” but maybe an honest candidate will instead blurt out “Hell, no!”

    Hey, Diogenes found an honest man using a lantern. While Prince William County politics is not normally associated with honest men there is always the possibility of a fluke.

  3. Advocator said on 20 Sep 2007 at 2:50 pm:
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    Who did Diogenes find? I thought the legend was that he continued wandering the streets of Athens in vain.

    On a more up-to-date note, there are some good pics of border patrolling in the San Diego area at http://www.govexec.com/multimedia/player/galleriesPlayer.cfm?mediaid=5

  4. Anonymous said on 20 Sep 2007 at 3:33 pm:
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    Phoenix policeman killed by previosly arrested and order to be deported illegal alien.

    Erfle, 33, an eight-year veteran and married father of two, was shot in the face and killed Tuesday after he and his partner stopped a jaywalker in central Phoenix. The killer, Erik Jovani Martinez, 22, had given the officers a fake name that linked to a misdemeanor shoplifting warrant. When Erfle and Officer Rob Rodarme tried to arrest Martinez, he fought with both of them, police said Wednesday. All three men had fallen to the ground when Martinez pulled a gun, fired multiple times and ran.

    Rodarme chased Martinez but couldn’t return fire because the area was too crowded. Martinez commandeered a stopped car at gunpoint and ordered the motorist to drive. About an hour later, tactical officers surrounded the vehicle and killed Martinez after he raised a gun to the hostage’s head and threatened to kill him.

    Only then, through fingerprints, did detectives learn who Martinez really was, an illegal immigrant who had been deported last year and had a felony warrant for aggravated assault

  5. Bryanna said on 20 Sep 2007 at 3:49 pm:
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    Slinging mud without doing your homework, only discredits you.

    The Republican candidate in the Woodbridge race is CHRIS ROYSE. Chris is by far the most qualified to serve as the Woodbridge District Supervisor. Chris decided to run for office in Woodbridge because he wants to improve the quality of life in PWC.

    After announcing his candidacy, he was introduced to Kopko and PWCRC. Royse isn’t cut from the same cloth as Gill, Kopko and Stewart. He has a security clearance, former FBI and established record of service.

    George Barker asked Sen. O’Brien if he supports Gill at last weeks debate and it made him look like a fool. For those who attended the Convention from hell in the 51st, Senator O’Brien and Delegate Jackson Miller were very outspoken against Faisal Gill. Gill hasn’t received endorsements from O’Brien, Miller or Royse or vice versa.

    Gill is a bad candidate and most Republicans will agree with you. Royses opponents couldn’t come close to filling Hilda’s shoes. Royse will not only fill her shoes but will provide the strong leadership to clean up route 1, control growth, bring innovative transportation solutions to PWC and more.

    Most local political activist whether they’re Republican or Democrat know who the best candidate is for Woodbridge and it’s Chris Royse.

  6. Jonathan Mark said on 20 Sep 2007 at 8:25 pm:
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    I very much like Mr. Royse and attended one of his fundraisers. A friend asked him about Gill and he said “I support all Republican nominees.” I knew that he said that because Kopko will try to punish him if he does not.

    I like Mr. Royse, and I did not sling any mud at anyone. Do you agree that there are Republican candidates out there who, if the leadership of the PWCRC permitted it, would state flatly and honestly that the support Paul Nichols and oppose Faisal Gill?

  7. Jonathan Mark said on 20 Sep 2007 at 8:25 pm:
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    that they support Paul Nichols

  8. Bob Wills said on 20 Sep 2007 at 10:02 pm:
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    Anon said on 20 Sep 2007 at 3:49 pm:

    “Royse will not only fill her shoes but will provide the strong leadership to clean up route 1, control growth, bring innovative transportation solutions to PWC and more.

    Most local political activist whether they’re Republican or Democrat know who the best candidate is for Woodbridge and it’s Chris Royse.”


    Why is that for the last 30 years or so every person running for elected office says what Royse and every other person running for office has said. What have they accomplished ? Not much and nothing like what they promissed to do.

    When will the public start to catch on that being told what they want to hear is not going to solve anything?

    This is not about Republicans or Democrats or Independents but the same old lies over and over. Maybe that is why the Con man does so well in life. The public likes to be shaffted.

  9. Anon said on 20 Sep 2007 at 11:04 pm:
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    PW Democratic Candidates Release “Enforce Our Laws” Plan on Illegal Immigration
    10-point plan would step up enforcement, punish illegal employers

    WOODBRIDGE - Three Delegate candidates from eastern Prince William County announced a joint plan Tuesday that would beef up enforcement of laws to crack down on illegal immigration.

    “Enforce Our Laws,” a 10-point plan to crack down on illegal immigration, focuses on punishing businesses that hire illegal immigrants and enforcing the immigration laws that are currently on the books.

    The plan was released Tuesday by House of Delegate candidates Bill Day (HD31), Paul Nichols (HD51) and Chris Brown (HD52). The three candidates’ districts represent eastern Prince William County.

    “Every day in Prince William County, we feel the effects of the Republicans in Richmond failing to ensure that our laws are enforced,” said Brown, who is running in the 52nd House District against Del. Jeff Frederick.

    “Enforcement is absolutely crucial to stopping illegal immigration,” added Bill Day, who is running in the 31st House District against Del. Scott Lingamfelter. “We need to enforce the laws and we need to start now.”
    The 10-point “Enforce Our Laws” plan includes: five steps (#1-5) that crack down on employers and landlords who profit off of illegal immigration; and five steps (#6-10) that strengthen current immigration laws by raising penalties and increasing resources for enforcement.

    The plan would:

    1. Punish employers that knowingly hire illegal immigrants by imposing fines up to $10,000 per illegal employee.
    2. Give employers the tools to assess the legal status of their employees.
    3. Make a federal conviction for hiring illegal aliens grounds for suspension of a Virginia business license.
    4. Allow enforcement officials to work with the Virginia Employment Commission to verify employment status.
    5. Fine landlords for knowingly renting property to illegal immigrants.
    6. Cut off in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.
    7. Increase punishment for counterfeit drivers’ licenses and identification fraud.
    8. Increase resources for state and local enforcement officials to make sure immigration laws are enforced.
    9. Check the legal resident status of all inmates currently in Virginia jails.
    10. Confirm the legal presence of all persons lawfully convicted of a crime in the U.S. via the U.S. ICE database.

    Brown said that the first step is to crack down on employers who hire illegal immigrants in Virginia. Under the plan, companies caught with illegal employees could receive fines or have their Virginia business licenses suspended. The plan also provides tools for the companies to check whether their employees are legal.

    “It’s clear that President Bush and the Federal Government have let us down when it comes to illegal immigration, leaving the states to clean up their mess,” said Brown. “We can do that by cracking down on the companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants. There have to be serious penalties for breaking the law to make a few extra bucks.”

    Nichols, who is running for Delegate in the 51st House District, said that the “Enforce Our Laws” plan sends a clear message that lawbreaking will not be tolerated in the Commonwealth of Virginia. In addition to punishing illegal employers, the plan increases resources for local law enforcement to crack down on illegal immigration.

    “We’re a nation of laws, but too often our police don’t have the power to enforce them,” Nichols said. “The ‘Enforce Our Laws’ plan will work to fund our local police departments so that they have the resources to combat the growing problem of illegal immigration in our communities.”

  10. Jon said on 21 Sep 2007 at 12:34 am:
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    Someone needs to tell the amateur hour candidates (Day, Brown, Nichols) that the GA has proposed all these before. I think the Dem Party of VA needs better folks doing their research cuz there ain’t nothing new here.

  11. Bryanna said on 21 Sep 2007 at 12:09 pm:
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    I second Jon

  12. Jonathan Mark said on 21 Sep 2007 at 4:44 pm:
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    “”"the GA has proposed all these before”"”

    Did the GA implement Paul Nichols’ proposals? The fact that an idea has been proposed but never before implemented doesn’t detract from the wisdom of that idea.

    “”"tell the amateur hour candidates”"” You mean tell Faisal Gill? By the way, I was wondering about something. Gill’s 9/17/07 campaign finance report shows a $500 contribution from “Mahmood Riffat.” But this alleged Gill donor “Mahmood Riffat” does not appear to exist.

    On the other hand Rafat “Ray” Mahmood is a major Democratic fundraiser. He has given $9200 to Hillary Clinton this year, and nothing at the federal level to Republicans. VPAP.org shows that Ray Mahmood has given $33K to Democrats and $0 to Republicans, not including Gill.

    Faisal Gill is an amateur who mangles the names of his contributors on his campaign finance reports. He may have done it on purpose. He may be embarrassed that Ray Mahmood is supporting him, or Ray Mahmood may be embarrassed to be supporting Gill.

    Let Gill clean up his campaign finance reports, and then we can debate further about whether Gill is an amateur.

  13. Anonymous said on 21 Sep 2007 at 6:15 pm:
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    Oh, so now these are just Nichol’s ideas???? The larger point is this, if you are going to come out with your “ideas” and ask people to vote for you on those ideas, maybe they should be fairly new ones and not ones that have been brought before time and time and time and time again….

  14. Jonathan Mark said on 21 Sep 2007 at 9:19 pm:
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    An old idea whose time has come is a new idea.

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