Gang Rape of Fourteen Year Old Confirmed
By Greg L | 24 September 2007 | Crime | 55 Comments
Earlier this month I reported a tip that I’d gotten about a rape at the Prince William County Fair of a fourteen year old girl. That story is looking very solid, as the parents of the girl in question have contacted me and have a truly harrowing story to tell. In this case, a young girl make some poor decisions, ends up getting gang-raped by what appears to be a group of illegal alien gang members, and the police haven’t done much to investigate this crime. This girls parents are quite understandably outraged, as should we all.
We just keep asking ourselves, what cases take priority over a possible gang-related, gang rape of a 14 year old at the County Fair?
My husband and I allowed our daughter to spend the night with a friend that she met at Christian school approximately 7 years ago. We had complete and utter confidence in this family and did not question their plans for the evening. Unknown to us, the girl’s mother left them unattended at the fair until midnight. Our daughter met a Hispanic ‘boy’ who said he was 16 along with his ‘older brother’; they were with a group of other Hispanic guys calling each other ‘locos’. She ended up giving the ‘16 year old’ her phone number. Later in the evening she kissed him and started to walk outside the gated area with him. She reached a point not too far outside of the gated area where she told the ‘boy’ that she had to go back with her friends but it was too late. Two guys pulled a SUV around and the ‘older brother’ raped her while the ‘16 year old’ and another guy stood as lookouts. As this was occurring, 4 other Hispanic males come along and are standing around the outside of the SUV. Honestly, it sounds to me if my daughter mentally shut down. She later told me that she thought if she stayed quiet and didn’t fight that they would just let her go. The 4 guys start pushing her back down and she believes she was raped by a different person but since she was being held down face first she can not be sure who the other person was. At some point her phone starts ringing and she knows she has to get out of there. After the ’second guy’, she starts to get angry and miraculously these guys allow her to walk away. She called her friends, found the girl’s mother’s car gets in and goes to the girl’s home never saying anything to her mother. When they get to the friend’s house, my daughter tries telling her friend about what happened.
I picked up my daughter about 11:45am the next day and by the time we are 25 feet away from the house she tells me what has happened. Not long after this the phone rings and the ‘16 year old’ is calling her cell which ends up being a land line number in Manassas which my husband and myself are able to do a reverse phone number search and get an address that very night. But, anyways, we took the appropriate actions and a police investigation ensues.
This certainly isn’t the story you want to hear in response to “did you have a good time?” as a parent. Then it gets worse:
We believe the rape could have been gang related because the men were calling each other ‘locos’ which could be indicative of ‘South-side locos’ or M13’s. The only ‘participant’ which wasn’t one of the rapist is a 27 year old male from El Salvador, no driver’s license, renting a room, construction day laboror. This man introduced himself to my daughter as a 16 year old and my daughter gave her cell phone number to him and voluntarily kissed him. The police have identified and questioned him. The current detective says he could easily pass for an 18 year-old. [The suspect] is denying everything and providing bogus information to the police. Our biggest concern is that he will simply disappear into the woodwork. Supposedly, he is only suspected of misdemeanor in kissing an underaged girl. But he is the only tie to the guy or guy(s) who did rape her. We quietly fear the whole case could be unraveling.
At this point you’d figure that the police would be moving heaven and earth to investigate this crime and remove sexual predators who prey on our children from the community. I’d certainly expect it, but in this case the response is a little underwhelming. No, not a little underwhelming, I’d characterize it as wholly unsatisfactory.
We surrender [her] cell phone [to the police] with the understanding that it will remain turned on to capture incoming call information like additional phone numbers. The battery is fully charged and Monday I physically bring the charger/adapter down to the other end of the county to the Garfield Substation. Tuesday morning I phoned the Detective and the voice mail states she won’t be in until Thursday which in my mind means she is out for 2 days not one. Out of curiosity, I phoned the cell phone number which goes directly to voicemail, so I call the phone carrier which confirms the cell phone is turned off. Needless to say, at this point we are livid. I end up speaking to the on-duty supervisor who is out on SWAT duty training. When I inquire into why the phone is turned off, he states that they have other ways to obtain that information, presumably to subpoena the phone carrier. Talk about making your job hard, all you have to do is turn the phone on. Then, [he] proceeds to tell me what we can learn from the situation is why my daughter left the gated area with someone she just met. This, in my mind, is equivalent to blaming the victim and meanwhile nobody has even knocked on the door of the only lead they have.So, in reality, the case was assigned to a detective that for the first 15 days would only be able to work on the case for 3 days - Monday, Thursday, Friday of the first week and then wouldn’t be available until after Labor Day.
That Friday we go to the Fair Grounds with the new detective so that my daughter can identify the vicinity where it occurred. And plan a ‘phone sting’ for the following day which is Saturday. We arrive at the station and are asked to come back later because of another rape case. Presumably the 18 year-old in Woodbridge that was sexually attacked. Anyways, it’s between 7-8pm before we hear back from the Detective who suggests coming in Monday morning after 8am for the phone sting. I really lost it at this point. Honestly, what teenagers are calling each other at 8am on a Monday? So he agrees and comes out to our home.
We let the Detective know we were going to Rehoboth beach for a couple days but could return within hours if need be. He phones on Monday and leaves a message that he had driven by the house and nobody was home. I return the call on Tuesday but don’t hear back, so I phoned again on Friday and don’t hear back. So the Tuesday after Labor Day I phoned again, 24 hours go by no return phone call. So on Wednesday, I start calling the Commonwealth’s Attorney Office and the Detective’s Supervisor. Come to find out this Detective has been on vacation for 5 days but he has left a message for the ‘16 year-old’. Again, we are dumbfounded. Are the police now leaving messages for participants in a gang rape of a 14 year old? In our minds, this is only giving the suspects a heads-up.
But in a surprising move, despite how badly this case is handled, the suspect walks into the police station. The police talk to him, check his documents, and then they let the guy go.
Surprisingly, the ‘16 year-old’ voluntarily comes down to the station but believes it’s for another reason. We are unclear if he was brought down under false pretenses or perhaps he is a participant in other criminal activity. He presents paperwork, possibly a birth certificate from El Salvador which shows he was born in 1980, which makes him 27 years old! The Detective says he doesn’t appear older than 18 and remember we have been working under the assumption that he was 16 as he told my daughter. The police don’t take a picture of him, so who really knows if it’s the even the same guy. As for the paperwork he presents, who knows if that is even his! Additionally, it has taken us 3 weeks to get this far. He provides names and numbers for the other guys but they don’t pan out. My daughter believes there is a familial resemblance between the ‘older brother’ that she is sure was a rapist and the ‘16 year-old’. So to us it’s understandable that he is not going to roll over on a relative without some pressure.
A nightmare like this is bad enough, but when the police don’t take effective action to investigate such a disturbing crime, it gets infinitely worse. There are now a bunch of predators out there that have just learned that it’s not too difficult to get away with gang raping fourteen year old girls in the parking lot of the Prince William County Fair as long as the girl can’t easily identify you.
The police department definitely has to get on the ball here. If anyone has information that may help solve this case, please contact the Prince William County Police Department immediately so we can get these criminals off our streets.
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You’re right. This is outrageous.
how about posting a letter to the editor for the newspapers? maybe that will spur the police department to action?
What do Charlie Deane and Paul Ebert have to say about this?????
From what you’ve described, the only way the police could get an ID is if the Guatamalan sings. That ain’t gonna happen. So much for what Chief Deane used to tout as his good relations with the Hispanic community. Boy, did they have him suckered with that crock of feces.
Correction: El Salvadoran.
Time for everyone to contact the MJM and demand some light get shed on this issue. Another case of a clear danger to the community that gets swept under the carpet. Dispicable.
I agree - get this to the Journal Mess. We may want to address this case with Deane on Thursday night.
What the f$#k is happening? Up is down, down is up! In my humble opinion, this whole issue of illegal immigration boils down to fairness. The police enforce ALL laws for the legal citizenry, and enforce NONE for the illegal community. And, quite frankly, I’m fed up with having to clarify what a freaking illegal alien looks like. They look like a hispanic. Because, that group of illegals are the most despicable. BAR NONE!!! Show me where on a regular basis any other group of illegals is com mitting crimes to compare with the hispanics!!!!! ENOUGH for cryin out loud!!! I have a 17 year old daughter and if anything like this were to happen to her my ass would be in jail. And, I don’t think a jury of MY peers would convict me!!
Bob,
I agree we are Damned of WE DO and WE are damned if THEY DON’T
We just moved back here from a 15 year hiatus. I cant believe what this area of the state has become. It is disgusting. What about DNA? What about holding onto the little bastard because he is a f@#king illegal? When did we become so pussified?
In another post this weekend, I wrote that I had checked via computer in General District Court PWC on a Luis Martinez of Manassas (charged with cockfighting) to see what else he had done. I found a LOT of Luis Martinezes out there with various crimes. I even saw a Identity Fraud - wherein that individual received 30 days , 30 days SUSPENDED; other was Birth Cert and DL Fraud - wherein that individual received 30 days, 28 SUSPENDED; assault and batteries - either nolle prosequi or suspended sentences, many charged as Guilty in Absencia (they did not show up for court). The Courts do not do anything to these people except slap them on the wrist. If they get away with something once, they can do it again. If anyone wants that link, it is public information. You will be ASTOUNDED at what goes on and how crimes are pled down and sentences suspended. Sometimes I wonder, “why bother” ??
Hispanics are now a protected class in the USA!!
The Hispanics are also to blame for the protection they got when the hit the Jena 6. Which by the way is Hispanic town. These Hispanic are a protected class!!!!!
What?
Que?
“You will be ASTOUNDED at what goes on and how crimes are pled down and sentences suspended.”
Remember the criminal record posted for the illegal alien who committed hit-and-run in Herndon last year? It was on novatownhall.
Same thing.
Now the question I have is, are these judges and prosecutors treating everyone the same?
What can I do to help? I am absolutely infuriated; something must be done to force these incompetent jackasses into action.
If you don’t get it Bob, I don’t know where you live. I know this a terrible situation but please don’t come with the staement that Hispanics are a protected class in this country. That is arcist comment coming from someone who doesn’t experience the racism suffered by us Hispanics. There are some of us who are professionals and contributing member of this society. So please don’t come to me with the idea that we are a protected class.
This is a crime that happens to be committed by Hispanics. I didn’t blame White people when the Jena 6 were mistreated.
anon,
what’s this talk about the jena 6? I read somewhere (actually many places) that those 6 boys had criminal records for other assaults. I’m not crying for them, they deserve to be incarcerated. They way it happened was unfortunate but the bottom line is someone has to answer for their crimes.
You see, I do get it! And I don’t want it!!
Since when is beating the crap out of a person in a 6 on 1 ‘fight’ mistreatment?
I totally agree,
they clocked the guy from behind with a bottle and knocked him out. He didnt have a chance to throw a punch. They proceeded to kick him while he was down.
I dont know about you, but a mob kicking a unconscious guy while he’s down sounds like attempted murder to me. My question to them would be: at what point would you stop kicking him? If the answer would be “i dont know” I would charge them with attempted murder. They could have easily killed him and I’m pretty sure that was the plan.
A few of the 6 (including the “juvenile”) had multiple assault and battery charges (and other criminal charges) between them.
I don’t know about contacting the media during an ongoing investigation. I know something has to be done. What are the PARENTSwishes as far as the media? I just think that it would do some kind of harm to the case as in a “heads up”‘.
I am not saying I am right, I just keep thinking about this.
Without knowing ALL the details, it is hard to suggest exactly what to do, but have they contacted the chief or gone up the protocol ladder to get help?
We need to report the officials and judges who let these things go to the Human Rights Commission, as some human rights are ignored. We the people need to start accessing our own county resources to overturn this mess, just as the illegals exploit the system to their own sorry advantage.
Dan Geroe, go to the Help Save Manassas web site:
http://helpsavemanassas.org/index.php
That would be a great place to start. If you don’t live in the area, contact them and they may be able to put you in touch with like-minded folks in your area.
I thought more about it on the way home and wanted to add to my post at 3:33,
What about contacting a attorney and /or a private investigator?
Also, what about the rape crisis center, maybe they can point in the right direction.
The real problem here is one of public relations. If victims of future crimes have no faith that justice will be served by the police and the court system then we’ll see people taking the law into their own hands.
The rule of law and equal protection exist in part to prevent the tyranny of mob justice.
If the local PD will not take appropriate action maybe its time to call the State Police.
Hire a lawyer. They may have to sue the city of Manassas. Daughter is not getting equal protection under the law. Her civil rights were violated.
Call Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck and Michael Savage. The nation needs to hear about this miscarriage of justice.
No wonder there so many rapes committed by Hispanics–they must think it is not a crime, thanks to our law enforcement. Or lack of.
Victims Services does nothing. I was victimized by a male driver on Mathis Avenue a few years back. It’s a long story - I was walking down the street after dropping my car off for an oil change in Manassas to my kid’s day care center, pushing a stroller. A man followed me down the street in his car and exposed himself to me at a stop light. I got the guy’s plate number, called 911, and the police responded long after he left. The officer said that they would try to find him. I heard nothing for a few days, called with no luck, and then got a letter, a survey actually, asking how their service was. I filled out that I was angered by their lack on response. Turns out that my information was good, they tracked the driver down, and he even allowed them to interview. They let him go. Why? Because I never used the word penis when I mentioned the exposure. What does it mean you all when a woman or a child says a man exposed himself? They could have called me to ask to restate the facts of my case while they were interviewing, do a line up, something. They didn’t. Only after my complaint did they make any attempt to find the guy again. He was no longer at that address.
I wish I had done more at the time, but I needed to focus on my family, on my kids. Besides, the cops had so thoroughly screwed the pooch on this one that there were no leads left. They let the bastard walk right out the front door of the frigging station. Not having any sort of justice or closure has left me scared and frustrated. I only recently entered therapy to address some of my lingering fear. What I went through pales in comparison to what this young women is going through, but it still leaves you shaken and scared. I promise you that.
I hesistated to share my story here. I generally have a positive opinion of law enforcement. Besides, I know someone out there will likely say something rude (the nature of the Internet), but if those parents are reading, please don’t give up. Even if they can’t find the people (I won’t call them men) who did this, they can at the very least acknowledge that they failed your daughter, your family, and your community. Fight them for that. I think I am still owed that and I might just pursue it now. I feel the Manassas City Police Department still owes me an apology. PWC owes more than that to this girl and her family.
Last year at 3 am we had an attempted break in. The only reason I say attempted is because my husband scared the guy off. He had been slamming on our back door and throwing lawn chairs into windows to try to get in. The damage is visible from the outside.
We identified him and the guy was caught by the police a few blocks away. Most likely an illegal. I called the cops the next day to follow up and they told me he was let go right away b/c he never got in the house. The only thing they did was take his picture. Wow, way to send a message Manassas City.
My experience pales in comparison to the one above. But the patterns are the same. I truly believe the cops in this area are trying to ignore the problem. 5 years ago in my neighborhood we had a true police presence. Officers driving around all the time, even parking and talking to neighbors. Now we rarely see the cops. They seem to focus on speeders and traffic violations. No wonder things are so out of control.
My best to the family in the story above. Hopefully we can make enough noise to get something done.
It’s called “depolicing”.
Try calling 911 from your cell phone. I had to last year when someone I had a protective order against was IN FRONT of my house when I pulled in. I took off in my car and went around the corner, called 911, hoping I was not followed. Not only did I listen to the 911 speech in English, I had to listen to it again in SPANISH !!!! In the time it took to do that, I could have been killed. Then the City police showed up 40 minutes, count them, 40, later. This was about 5:30 on a Friday night and I was told they were too busy at the time.
I had an attempted break in at my home as well, someone attempted to jimmy my back patio door. However I happened to be in my basement at the time. Not sure if it was hispanic or otherwise but it was a juvenile for sure. He Was hiding in the woods behind my house. I threatened to send my dog after him and I told him I would kill him if he tried again (you can shoot intruders in your house, you dont even have to warn them..just make sure they are IN your house)…been 4 years and nothings happened
It’s Anonymous on 24 Sep 2007 at 5:27 pm again.
I do want to clarify, lest I sound completely helpless, I did take the plate number and the identity information I got from the police, went to the magistrate, and pressed charges myself. To this day, there is a warrant out for him - unless they expire or something. But I would have been flying solo in court - the police weren’t going to come unless they were served. I don’t know if that would be a possibility for this family if the police fails in their investigation. A warrant would follow him around if he got picked up for something else. That was my rationale for doing it.
I wondering if the gang task force would be of help? I am trying to come up with solutions and questions as if it were my child. I have 2 teenage daughters and fear this every time they walk out the door.
I asked on another thread what the protocol would be to keep the local police dept. in check and AWCheney responded back that the next step would be the Commonwealth’s Attorney.
I would just try and try every avenue to get answers. I feel for this family if you are reading. We are trying to help.
Commonwealth attorney is probably a good bet..go over the PD’s head. Then if the Commonwealth attorney doesnt play ball I would go to the press with the story. Hit up all the news stations (not just newspapers) and go from there.
Once it hits the evening news, there will be more than enough police to get the ball rolling. County supervisors may be able to help but I’m not sure how much.
Josh
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No one suggested going to the ER and having a rape kit done? No police officer asked her for he clothing and undergarments she wore that evening which could have contained DNA information? No Dr. was called upon to confirm that she was raped? Document bruising and tearing? The cell phone may contain info, but her clothes probably contained the real info. It’s hard enough for rape victims to be taken seriously if they haven’t been beaten, and it’s even harder when the police doubt them and then do not collect the evidence that they could have as soon as they were notified of the rape. If this were my daughter the first thing I would have done was bag the clothes she wore the night before. Second would be to visit an OB and have a rape kit done, admin antibiotics to prevent STDS, give her the morning after pill to ward off pregnancy, and begin HIV/HEP testing and start preventitive meds for those possible infections. I would have been sure to have her combed and photographed, and for good measure would have made sure some scrapings were done beneath her fingernails. Parents can advocate for their children and should do so. Don’t expect the cops to do it for you. I hope the child mentioned is seeing a therapist to deal with the horrible situation she has undergone.
My statement “What is it going to take for people demand action,” taken from my blog post, does not refer to anybody here - this site is action - the statement is for others who are not taking action and are hiding their heads in the sand, refusing to see, or hear any evil.
IE http://busmovie.typepad.com/ideoblog/2007/09/the-value-of-im.html
Don’t assume that just because you didn’t see a reference to something, that it didn’t happen. There’s a lot of information that has to be held back here out of respect for the privacy of this crime victim and her family.
ateacher,
All excellent points.
We as parents we are our children’s #1Advocator, and must live by this.
ateacher said on 24 Sep 2007 at 9:47 pm:- It is easy for you to second guess the parents of this child, because she isn’t your’s. You don’t know how you would react in this situation. The police SHOULD have told the parents what to do, they deal with this on a regular basis. This was the first time they had to deal with such a tramatic situation.
Yes, parents should be proactive with their kids, but if you don’t know what actions to take, you might miss some of them.
Please believe that I am neither second guessing the parents nor the victim. I just am curious as to what the detectives did for the victim. Have they gathered evidence? If not, then why? From the first post it looked liked the parents were playing phone tag with the detectives, and the police missed out on opportunities to arrest the rapist. Perhaps we lack many facts. However the police will not tell parents what to do. My mother was a rape counselor for many years when we lived Newport News. She was always on call, and it was she who alerted the victims as to their rights. Police don’t know about morning after pills, HEP, HIV and what antibiotics are suggested for STDS. Don’t expect the police to know how to handle a juvie rape, or even understand how it happens. NO visible injuries = no crime. You aint shot or stabbed then its on your plate to prove a crime was committed against you. I hope the victim in this story can prove her case. I hope the DA thinks so to. But what will most likely happpen will be his word against hers. She gave him her cell number (mistake # 1), he’ll claimed she consented, he’ll claim she said she was eighteen and have friends who can testify to this, he’ll claim she wanted to be sexed in, he’ll claim she “thought” he was in a gang though he’ll swear he is not, and the state may not be able to prove this, he’ll swear he told her how old he was but she didn’t listen, he’ll swear she was willing, he’ll swear she knew what she was getting into, but backed out at the last minute, but at that point he could not be responsible for his friends did. She IS the victim, but with a good defense he may walk. Especially if she has character flaws which in court speak means she wasn’t a virgin before the attack.
The police should’ve been all over this from the start and not rested until they had all evidence possible. This is not the first the police had to investigate a rape, and should’ve guided the victim and family through the evidence gathering proccess. This was the first time(I would think) the parents had to deal with their 14 year old daughter being raped, and they must have been devistated.
This is a horrible incident, and seems to be happening more often. There are also many rapes that go unreported. The victims fear not being believed. We need to let are children know are here for them, no matter how much they might like to think otherwise, and certainly in the teen years.
Thank goodness, this young lady came forward. I admire her courage to tell what had happened to her!
I agree. Yet she still has a hard road to travel since rape laws still put the victim on trial, and it doesn’t matter the color of the rapist. She did the right thing by telling her mother, I just hope the cops and DA will do right by her. It’s harder to be a rape victim than a mugging victim. God bless her.
“Now the question I have is, are these judges and prosecutors treating everyone the same?”
I’m sorry to tell you that they are.
In 1996 a white guy crashed through my back yard (on Ashton). Many of you will remember that incident. It was a result of a drunken run from MCPD. Felony eluding, DUI, and more. Long history of DUI’s.
I went to the court house and did a manual search of his priors. I found him in five different names, initial used or changed here and there. Different DOB’s. This guy had a history that should have put him away for a long time. Yet, the commonwealth continued to release him with virtually no penalty.
Like another prior post, I have searched the online database for cases (traffic, civil, criminal) in PW and Fairfax County, Just try it and you will see what I mean. Pick any name and you will come back with some unbelievable histories; you will find the same people time after time, in different jurisdictions, getting off time after time!
I found myself wanting to know the attorney they used so I can get off when I do something stupid.
Really, try it: http://208.210.219.132/vadistrict/select.jsp
PARENTS OF CHILD:
Call the office of Frank Wolf.
He is very aware of gang issues and may get the state police involved?
It can’t hurt.
I am so sorry for your daughter and you, but I will say I am happy to learn she is home alive. These people are brutal and have no morals!
My prayers are with you.
“Especially if she has character flaws which in court speak means she wasn’t a virgin before the attack.”
ateacher, you win the prize for most vile poster of the day. No means no, regardless if she has has sex before or not. People like you create a culture that makes it nearly impossible for women to come forward.
Anonymous 7:24
Please go back and read what ateacher was saying and then come back and apologize to her. She was reporting the attitudes which exist in the legal system, not her own personal opinion.
This story is an outrage to all parents and the community in general. The police department should be proactively seeking out these animals and then the sytem should put them away for a very long time. I feel for the parents of this girl but more importantly, for the girl herself. I am sure she feels like no one gives a crap about her except her parents and you know what, it seems she’d be right. To her parent’s: contact the Washington Post, the MJM, and Congressman Frank Wolf’s Office. Don’t accept this. Raise enough hell that someone finally gets off their duffs and does something. You will be helping to save some other 14 or 15 year old by doing this. And know that you have the support of many, many people behind you!
Call the office of Frank Wolf.
He is very aware of gang issues and may get the state police involved?
He should be aware - he is one of the ones at fault for not deleting the preemption verbiage which has allowed gangs to flourish.
Virginia is a shalll issue state folks, go get a Concealed Handgun Permit. It only takes attending a short class, paperwork and $50. Your famalies safety is well worth the cost of the class and the $50.
Anon 11:30
I think Frank Wolf realizes what has been done wrong. I still stand with the advise to the parents of this young girl to get in touch with him personally.
If it were my story, that’s where I would try going.
CC 2:06
Re: Concealed handguns, there were many of those within feet of where this outrage occurred, I assure you. None of those did any good this time.
I’m not knocking your comment, just adding that vigilance is also needed. We need to look out for any suspicious activity.
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