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Manes Pierre Gets WashPo Scrutiny

By Greg L | 25 September 2007 | Prince William County | 52 Comments

Pictured at left giving his support at a rally of Mexicans Without Borders is Manes Pierre, the Goofy Party candidate for the Neabsco school board seat. He’s the subject of a Washington Post article in today’s metro section entitled “Fired Teacher Wants To Join School Board“. Kudos to the Post for delving in a bit on this otherwise neglected downballot race and digging out that someone who has been fired as a teacher is trying to get a seat on the school board. I wish they could have dug even deeper into this story, but because personnel records of school system employees are confidential, we still don’t know why Manes Pierre was moved not from one school, but two, before being escorted from a local middle school by police officers and had his computer confiscated as potential evidence.

He’s quite the candidate.

Manes Pierre, it’s well past time you authorized the school system to release your employment records so we can learn exactly what the circumstances of your dismissal as a teacher are. It’s time to clear up this controversy right now, and you have the power to do so. Every day you continue to hide the facts regarding your past employment with the school system, the harder it is to take your strange rantings seriously.

Although Manes Pierre’s current employment is as an “English professor” at the on-line University of Phoenix (although it seems he could benefit from some remedial language arts instruction himself), his most recent employment is with Prince William County Schools. He’s worked at Freedom, Marsteller and Stonewall during his short period of employment, which is terribly unusual. How voters are supposed to evaluate his suitability as a member of the school board, given that he got the shuffle-him-around treatment usually reserved for problematic employees under probation, and then was fired under what seems to have been rather unusual and disturbing circumstances hasn’t been adequately explained.

The Washington Post article raises other concerns as well:

As a teacher in Prince William for fewer than three years, Pierre had a probationary contract, the sources said, which meant he could be let go without cause and without the possibility of lengthy, closed-door personnel hearings. Some teachers felt “threatened” by him, one source added: “He was one of those people who constantly wanted to create problems.”

Questions about Pierre’s relationship with the school system began percolating in public last month on a Virginia politics blog, Black Velvet Bruce Li.

This story just keeps on getting better and better. I can’t imagine anyone taking this nutball seriously.

UPDATE: Riley weighs in with his take on this in “This guy must be from bizarro world“.  Nice name for a post.  It fits.



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52 Comments

  1. dolph said on 25 Sep 2007 at 1:47 am:
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    With this track record, I consider Manes Pierre a serious threat to Prince William County Schools. It will be up to the responsible citizens of Prince William County to bring the issues surrounding this man to light because his opponent cannot.

    Ms. Lucas was a school board member at the time of his dismissal from PWCA and therefore, because of conflict of interest and privacy, she will be unable to challenge his suitability as a school board member. Her hands will be tied.

    The demographics of the Neabsco District should not be overlooked when considering the likelihood of Manes Pierre being elected. A reasonable person might assume Julie Lucas is a shoe-in, given this man’s unsuccessful tenure with PWCS. Nothing could be further from the truth. Those of us who care about our schools need to give Julie Lucas all the support we can muster. We also need to do what she will be unable to do: expose this charlatan for what he is.

  2. The Patriot said on 25 Sep 2007 at 7:19 am:
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    I don’t know about everyone else but why on earth is this guy not explaining his situation? With his track record one must question his suitability in the educational system. Thank God for homeschooling! It seems like more and more people are moving towards homeschooling with the decline of our school systems.

  3. Harry said on 25 Sep 2007 at 7:23 am:
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    I have to agree, however, I also question Lucas’ sutiability as a Board member as well, during her tenure the schools have recorded the lowest test scores in NOVA,; the Board voted for a Taj Mahal County School administration building while 1000s of students go to classes in third world trailers without bathroom facilities, and the exodus of good teachers to Fairfax continues as Lucas prides herself in keep costs low.

  4. joe said on 25 Sep 2007 at 8:14 am:
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    Julie DID NOT vote for the Taj Mahal administration building because of forecasts of lower revenues.

  5. O. P. Ditch said on 25 Sep 2007 at 8:23 am:
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    Harry just lies all the time about Julie….like the energizer bunny.

  6. josh said on 25 Sep 2007 at 8:28 am:
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    I’ve taken classes at UOP online and they are quite horrible. I attempted to do my masters there years ago and I was amazed at the apparent retardation of the instructors. Also, they are not “professors” in any sense of the word, they are basically “facilitators” since the students in essence teach themselves.

    It’s not saying much that he “teaches” at UOP

  7. dolph said on 25 Sep 2007 at 8:33 am:
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    PWCS test scores are not the lowest test scores in NOVA. Far from it.

    You may verify this statement at https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/reportcard/

    UOP has long been known as the place to go if you want to BUY a degree.

  8. Lafayette said on 25 Sep 2007 at 8:40 am:
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    I believe most have heard me speak of my daughter having an excellent Science teacher at Stonewall Middle School. Three weeks into the school year the teacher was told he no longer had a teaching position, and that he could substitute and coach the football team. SMS needed more ESOL teachers. My daughter’s Science lab classroom was give to guess who??? That’s right one Mannes Pierre. My daughter addressed the PWCBOS, last week and she told them of loosing her teacher, and another small problem. I then went to the School Board meeting last week, addressed the milk shortage at school, and then I spoke of my daughter’s schedule being changed twice because of this. We don not want to see this happen again this year.
    The Patriot,
    You saw Lafayette, Jr., didn’t you?
    This man should be NO where near our public schools

  9. O. P. Ditch said on 25 Sep 2007 at 8:50 am:
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    Harry, your response shows you have no idea what is going on in the Neabsco District or about Julie Lucas’ voting record. Test scores at some of the schools in Dale City before Julie was on the board were some of the lowest in the county, some of the schools only with a 20-30% pass rate on the SOLs and only 3 of the schools in the Neabsco District were accredited. Now 100% of the schools are accredited and the test scores are mostly at the 80-90+% pass rate. You also mention the Administration building, you are WRONG again, Julie Lucas voted AGAINST the Administration building. You then mention trailers…. Julie Lucas worked hard to help step up capital improvement projects in her area to help REDUCE overcrowding. Right now Bel Air Elementary (which last year was the most over crowded elementary school in the county) is being renovated and expanded. IF you lived in the Neabsco District you would know that Bel Air was only going to get a 4 classroom addition, but Julie, with support from staff and the Board, changed the CIP (Capital Improvement Program) to make the addition an 8 classroom addition. She also worked hard to ensure the NEW elementary school was not pushed back and next September we will have the FIRST NEW elementary school in the Neabsco District in 30 YEARS! Julie Lucas has fought hard for our kids, has a proven track record of effective results, and deserves to win re-election on November 6th!

  10. John Light said on 25 Sep 2007 at 9:08 am:
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    Be careful, because here is what he Mannes side will put out. Because what happened to him is not publically known, any type of spin can be used. Mannes comes across as a nice guy. Now, I would hazzard to say that a good number of his supporters are not readers of this blog and would probably dismiss the negative comments. Those who claim that they support Ms. Lucas were also her loudest critics - Mannes supporters will claim they are hypocrites. IF she was that good of a candidate, they will say, then how come she was beaten by a known terrorist sympathizer (as well as one who gives aid to illegal aliens)?

    Political savvy types, like the regulars on here, know the answers to these and many more questions. We know about his support of questionable people and organizations. We know about the status of the school systems. But his supporters will remind us that he was “wronged” (trust me, I am NOT in THIS line of thought) and this is why he is running for school board, to change from within.

    But let me remind you all of this, another local politican…

    Michele McQuigg did absolutely nothing in Richmond, had zero popularity of her collegues down there, and considers it an “old boys club”. Yet people (read voters) like her and why? Because she knocks on doors. She comes across as a nice person. She appears to listen and care (and maybe she really does).

    I say it is time that we hit the school board candidates with the same, tough questions we have it the other politicians. What is their stance on illegal immigration as it affects the schools. What corrective action will be taken, county-wide, to ensure that children will be given the opportunity for 2 squares a day and that if one drink runs out, i.e. milk, then the child will have a choice of all drinks to substitute. And finally, why should we, the voters, put our faith in someone who received A POLICE ESCORT from the school buildings??? Wouldn’t that mean that if he is prohibited from entering school property that he would not even be able to conduct his job as school board member???

    In the words of our President, “Rarely is the question asked, ”Is our children learning”!!!!”

  11. dolph said on 25 Sep 2007 at 9:38 am:
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    School board candidates need to avoid the illegal immigration topic like the plague. All school systems must play the hand they are dealt.

    It is the duty of all school board members to seek the best for ALL students attending PWCS, regardless of immigration status. Pierre will try to whine and complain that minorities are getting the short end of the stick. He will attack the status quo. He would bring devisiveness to a rather cohesive school board.

    Ms. Lucas’s supporters need to emphasize her past accomplishments and goals for the next 4 years and beyond. Appropriate topics should include a vision for a school system with rapidly changing student demographics where all children receive the best education possible.

  12. josh said on 25 Sep 2007 at 9:48 am:
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    Manes apparently attended NSU (Nova Southeastern University) that’s a decent school, I’m going there for my Phd. I’m not sure if he graduated though. Many people teach supplementally at UOP online on a contract basis. There are very, very few people that teach at UOP Online are Permanent. I actually thought about it once, would be nice to bring in some extra cash. Most people who “teach” there have full time jobs elsewhere.

    I wouldnt say that their degree’s are Worthless, I attended a combination of Ground and Online. The Ground was decent, not up to par with a Local University but OK. Definitely not a diploma mill though. The Online get’s close the “buy your degree” statment but not totally, there are good classes here and there but generally they suck. The price is horrible too.

  13. ddpdrinker said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:04 am:
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    We had a speaker from PWC Schools this morning who cited last year minority students made up 58.8% of school population. They know the figure is higher this year but have not determined the percentage as of yet. I don’t think the minorities are getting the short end of the stick - they are being catered to all over, including getting more bilingual teachers in, while English speaking children are not receiving the tax payor paid attention and education they deserve. Why do you think the SOL scores are not what they should be. DUH !!!

  14. Lafayette said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:12 am:
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    ddpdrinker,
    I’ve watched my daughter and other English speaking students get the short end of the stick for 9 years now. I’m sick of it. I understand we are required to educate all students. However, why should my child and other students continue to get the shaft. While the “red carpet’s” pile just gets thicker and plusher in the PWCPS!
    Dolph,
    That’s exactly right NO candidate is a shoe-in! It would appear to most Ms. Lucas won win hands down. However, we are talking about John Jenkins district, the Neeeee=absoe district.
    The oppents are out there, agreed.
    JL/Josh
    I like the comments as always. Keep it up!!

  15. Batson D. Belfrey said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:16 am:
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    Let’s put aside for a moment, the fact that Pierre has chosen to publically align himself with Mexicans Without Borders, a group which has incited mass walk-outs of students from PWC Schools, which placed these children in physical danger, and disrupted school operations last year. Let’s focus on his qualifications:

    He’s a teacher who left Florida (why?) and came here, receiving a “probationary” license, which was revoked. He’s been fired (moved) three times. Other teachers describe him as “intimidating”. His last firing involved him leaving under police escort, and his computer was siezed. He’s filed several EEOC complaints, all of which were found to be without merit, and dismissed. Even the WaPo characterizes him as having an “ax to grind”.

    He claims that he is the victim of a vendetta because he claims he raised alarms about misuse of Federal funds, and was fired inretaliation. If this was the basis of his EEOC complaints, the dismissal of the complaints speaks volumes about his claims.

    I believe that he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about educating kids. He’s a trouble-maker who palys in the world of “victimology”. While being a successful educator is not a requirement to serve on schoolboard, being an unsuccessful one should be a disqualifier. He is a woefully poor candidate.

    Do we need a School Board member who want’s nothing more than to get even with PWC? Can you see him picking fights on schoolboard and complaining to the press when he is out voted, claiming that it’s a conspiracy? I can. Can’t you see him kow-towing to radical organizations like Mexicans Without Borders and working with Nancy Lyall and Terrisita Jacinto to get more and more resources directed to the children of illegal aliens. Can’t you see him pushing a radical agenda in our schools? Not only is he unqualified for School Board, I am not sure he’d be qualified to be the lunchroom custodian. He’s a complete failure who thinks the world is our to get him, and balmes everyone else for his failures.

    Contrast Pierre’s background with that of Julie Lucas. Successful educator. Successful business woman. Successful School Board Member. Look at who shows up for her fundraisers: almost all of her fellow schoolboard members.

    The choice is clear.

  16. The Patriot said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:26 am:
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    “I understand we are required to educate all students.”
    We the People control the government (not the other way around). We need to change this law and only educate legal students!

  17. Lafayette said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:37 am:
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    corr to clarify
    Ms Lucas should WIN hands down!! NO TO MANNES PIERRE!!!
    We can NOT have anyone in office, that’s been known to run with Nancy L, and Mexicans Without Borders.
    I would also like to point out Mannes is against expulsion!!! How can this help the “no tolerance policies”, egarding, weapons, alcohol, drugs and exessive violance, we don’t want these kids in our public shcools.

  18. josh said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:38 am:
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    From his track record he reminds me of an Al Sharpton clone. Always thinking there is something amiss when in fact there isnt. My view of him is that he purposely places himself in a position to stir up controvery and hate/discontent. Honestly I think the guy just want’s attention, maybe he didnt get enough in kindergarten..who knows?

    J

  19. Lafayette said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:39 am:
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    corr
    regarding weapons…

  20. Lafayette said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:45 am:
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    Josh
    Was that your letter in the MJM in last week? It looked like your words? by JL from “hoodbridge”

  21. Anonymous said on 25 Sep 2007 at 10:51 am:
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    The Patriot:

    Reference your 25 Sep 10:26 post: “We need to change this law and only educate legal students!” How would you propose to change “this law?” What “law” are you talking about?

  22. John Light said on 25 Sep 2007 at 11:01 am:
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    Batson, I agree with you. We need to be vigiliant on our questioning Manes on his past. Ms. Lucas had lies and a smear campaign against her when she ran for Delegate because her opponents could not attack her on the issues because they knew that she had a record whereas her opponent does/did not, just issues.

    There are sooooo many things to get Manes on it is absolutely incredible. His hero Cesar Chavez, but more importantly, he needs to be questioned on his questionable “career” in the public school system. If he was a teacher who was fired because he could not teach well, then fine, so be it. But, to have a police escort???

    Our school board representatives need to set the example for our children. What type of example is set if one of them has been forbidden to step on school grounds and has had police escort? This guy takes the cake!!!

  23. anon said on 25 Sep 2007 at 11:07 am:
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    anon 1051

    This is probably “the law” that everyone is referring to:

    From a US Supreme Court summary:
    “In 1982, the Supreme Court rules in Plyler v. Doe , 457 U.S. 202 (1982), that public schools were prohibited from denying immigrant students access to a public education. The Court stated that undocumented children have the same right to a free public education as U.S. citizens and permanent residents. Undocumented immigrant students are obligated, as are all other students, to attend school until they reach the age mandated by state law.

    Public schools and school personnel are prohibited under Plyler from adopting policies or taking actions that would deny students access to education based on their immigration status.”

  24. Lafayette said on 25 Sep 2007 at 11:14 am:
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    anon 11:07
    Thank you very much for the Plyer v Doe case post!!!

  25. Jarhead said on 25 Sep 2007 at 11:31 am:
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    Mr. Pierre’s problems started well before Stonewall Middle. In fact, he should have been fired from Freedom High School. He caused a lot of problems for other teachers and thier families in that school and the only thing that happened to him was an involunteery transfer. Mr. Pierre fabricated stories while at Freedom and was never held accountable for his actions! I hope everyone thinks about that while at the polls.

  26. dolph said on 25 Sep 2007 at 11:43 am:
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    Jarhead,

    This is very useful information. It is my understanding that employees at Stonewall Middle were directed not to discuss his dismissal, which occurred during the school year, rather than at the end of the term. A mid-year dismissal is far more serious than a simple non-renewal of contract.

    I hope that you will be able to share more information. It is hard to combat a problem that is shrouded in secrecy.

  27. josh said on 25 Sep 2007 at 12:15 pm:
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    Could be…I send letters there and they post them sometimes, others they wait a couple weeks then post. I think they pool a bunch of letters together and then sift through them to find the ones that fit their mood.

    I was pretty irritated at all the Pandak letters, so that was probably me. Seems like potomac news loves sharon pandak and I find it offensive that they basically are lobbying for her.

  28. Lafayette said on 25 Sep 2007 at 12:21 pm:
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    The schools have been famous for “shrouding the secrecy”.
    There’ve been many instances involving strangers in vehicles talking to elem. kids. Yet, if you aren’t a busy body at school everyday, you would not know about these things. Our principals have a duty to inform parents of such crimes against children. Not just to the select chosen few!!! I try to be to hard on the schools, they really do have their work cut out for them.All parents have a right to know and make sure their children are safe walking to and from school. Here WestGate, kids don’t ride a bus to school until high school.
    Mr. Pierre, had no business ever going to SMS. Why was he not fired while at Freedom. There
    Jarhead,
    Thanks for the statement about Mannes at Freedom. I have a feeling there’s a lot more to be learned about Mannes. I think it’s safe to say none of it would be good.

  29. Lafayette said on 25 Sep 2007 at 12:31 pm:
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    josh
    I agree with you. That was definately you then! I loved it. I’ve gotten some her mailers too. Legal size thick glossy paper(took a lot of trees). One side has picture of her infront of a bunch of trees. I laughed so hard when I got this. Keep send those letters.

  30. Josh said on 25 Sep 2007 at 12:40 pm:
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    They certainly pimp for pandak! That’s a pretty cool slogan, I thought of that one on the fly :)

    That whole paper is messed up, but occasionally they do slip a few of my letters through. They only posted it because I took a shot at them and they probably didnt want any fallout from not publishing it.

  31. k. o'toole said on 25 Sep 2007 at 1:33 pm:
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    Regarding freedom of speech. Columbine School memorial sparking controversy:

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57815

  32. Concerned said on 25 Sep 2007 at 2:04 pm:
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    Education has been an important part of my professional life for twenty years; teaching graduate and undergraduate courses either full-time or adjunct, and providing post-graduate training for professionals. I can spot a charlatan from a mile away, and Mr. Pierre seems to fit that description.

    Online degree programs are, for the most part, a joke. A few years ago one of the schools offering such programs asked me to teach. It was on par with the University of Phoenix; perhaps a little better. They flew me to their headquarters for training in delivery of online educational services. Their technical capacity and resources were very impressive.

    Content, however, was dismal. I taught two or three courses for them in the field in which I’ve been working for decades. Their program was not remotely preparing students for jobs in that field. I had already been teaching similar courses elsewhere for years and offered constructive suggestions that would have improved the quality of their educational offerings tremendously. None of that mattered to them at all. Their only interest was in collecting tuition and running students through their degree mill. They told me that if I did not like it, they had many other potential instructors waiting in line. I promptly told them to go find one of those people because I did not want to lend them any of the credibility I’ve earned through hard work over many years.

    Josh’s comment above that degrees from online schools are not completely worthless is true. However, if I had a job applicant listing an online degree as a qualification, I would disregard it and evaluate the applicant on other factors.

    Mr. Pierre may not have an advanced degree. He says on his web site that he is, “the first in his family to complete his doctoral coursework toward his Ph.D. in Conflict Analysis and Resolution from Nova Southeastern University.” Note that he does not claim the degree but only to have completed coursework (no comprehensive exams or dissertation?) He needs to clear this up.

    NSU on their web site describes this program as being online, or online with some weekend course attendance. I stated my view of online programs above. Moreover, Mr. Pierre refers to a Ph.D. program at NSU. NSU describes Conflict Resolution as a minor in their Ed.D. (education) program. Please, Mr. Pierre, clear this up so we are not left with the impression that you don’t even know what your degree (or supposed degree) is.

    Moreover, graduate degrees in education, even from real universities these days, are relatively worthless. Usually, universities require doctoral degrees for tenure, and public schools give higher pay to people who have earned them. However, people often get Ed.D. degrees. (doctorate in education) rather than a Ph.D. in a real subject. An Ed.D. degree is much quicker and easier to get than a real Ph.D., even when it is from a real university with actual classrooms and professors. A friend of mine is going through one of those Ed.D. programs now. He said it’s nothing but multicultural propaganda. The program is not even teaching students much about educational and teaching methodologies anymore.

    Mr. Pierre’s only documented credentials in education are taking some graduate courses (online?), teaching online courses and ending his time with the PWC School System by being escorted out by the police. If I am mistaken, please Mr. Pierre, correct these misunderstandings.

  33. josh said on 25 Sep 2007 at 2:13 pm:
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    I actually fired off a couple complaints about some Sharon Pandak signs I saw inappropriately placed. Since Craig Vetter seems to avoid reporting anyone of the Democratic persuasion I figured I’d go look for some. Honestly, I didnt find too many on my jaunts this weekend. I did find some Pandak ones though, they by far outweighed the rest. I did this just for spite, the signs really dont annoy me at all. I’m not sure what all the commotion is about signs. I find more interesting things to be ticked off about, like illegal immigrants.

  34. John Light said on 25 Sep 2007 at 2:21 pm:
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    Question. If a student is expelled from a school, he/she cannot attend school in the same county, correct? If that is the case, why not the same for teachers??? He NEVER should have been transferred to another school…ESPECIALLY without discussion with parents present.

  35. Josh said on 25 Sep 2007 at 2:49 pm:
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    I’m going to NSU right now for my PHD and there are comp’s and you do have a dissertation.

    He may have been waiting to submit his dissertation, some of the students wait a long time. The process and acceptance boards can last for awhile. Some get lucky and get their’s approved right away, others can wait awhile. You still have to pay partial tuition while you’re waiting too.

    Sometimes students are in the pipe so long waiting they just bail out. Nova is a pretty decent school, much better than UOP at least. They do some quality educating there.

  36. dolph said on 25 Sep 2007 at 4:27 pm:
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    Personnel matters are never discussed with parents. They are strictly confidential, as they should be.

    A teacher might be transferred for many reasons. Most often, it is because of reduction in number of teachers needed in a given subject. It can be for other reasons, however.

    Non-renewal of contract for a probationary teacher is quite another matter. At best it means that teacher is ineffective. Usually those who do not have their contract renewed finish out the current school year. For a teacher to be removed before the end of the term is very alarming. All red flags should go up when this is done. It indicates that the individual’s presence in the school system is too deleterious to the learning/work environment for them to remain on the job.

  37. The Patriot said on 25 Sep 2007 at 6:22 pm:
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    Concerned said: “A friend of mine is going through one of those Ed.D. programs now. He said it’s nothing but multicultural propaganda. The program is not even teaching students much about educational and teaching methodologies anymore.”

    This is precisely the problem with our education system across the board now!

  38. Concerned said on 25 Sep 2007 at 7:20 pm:
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    Let me elaborate some on the friend whose experience I mentioned. His story illustrates many of the problems Americans face in immigration and education policy. He is a Russian who came here to study legally at a university in Massachusetts (is anyone surprised the program focuses on multicultural propaganda rather than education?). He applied for and received all of the appropriate visas. He now wants residency status in the U.S. to work here as a teacher (he speaks perfect English). We have a dire need of qualified, competent teachers in this nation. Our mutual friend is an attorney who is helping with the process, which has dragged on now for over a year. Since he came here legally, he is not eligible for programs available to unskilled, uneducated illegals who add nothing to our Society. Long story short – he got so frustrated with the U.S. bureaucracy that he applied to reside and teach in Canada, and Canada took him.

    Regarding the university, he said that the multicultural indoctrination imposed on students rivaled what he and his family experienced in the old Soviet Union. He is in his late 20s/early 30s and has some memory of that time. His parents remember it well. Professors at this “university” expect conformity of thought and anyone disagreeing with them are immediately labeled “racist” or “bigoted” and are expected to change their outlook. He said that students learned simply to write papers and answer exam questions reflecting exactly what these academic dictators wanted to hear so they could get their degrees and get out of there.

    He is very negative about the U.S. after this experience. He told us that he thinks Russia has now more freedom of speech and thought than does the U.S. He believes strongly that multiculturalism and political correctness here are as repressive as communism was there prior to its downfall.

  39. Jarhead said on 25 Sep 2007 at 8:40 pm:
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    I am glad to see the real side of Mr. Pierre is coming out. As one can see, this person was transferred to three different schools in less than three years (McAuliffe, Freedom and Stonewall). He always played the victim for his transfers but as someone else wrote “when there’s smoke, there’s fire”. I am glad the County finally fired him but I wish they would share all of the reasonings with the public especially because this man is running to represent the County. I only wish the Potomac News would have looked into Mr. Pierre when they were given the information months ago!

  40. ateacher said on 25 Sep 2007 at 8:45 pm:
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    Maybe Concerned’s friend is attending the same education masters pgrm that I’m in. I spent a 2 week seminar this summer being told that all white people are racists…ALL of them! People of other colors can be predjudiced, but only white people can be racists because they are the “oppressive majority”, so on and so forth. I also got to read a lovely (HA) book by Paolo Freire The Pedagogy of the Oppressed. I really want my money back.

  41. dolph said on 25 Sep 2007 at 9:20 pm:
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    Jarhead,

    Personnel files can never be released. Information in them is confidential. Even information passed on to prospective employers is very limited. It will be up to those who know what happened to step forward and speak up.

  42. Michael said on 25 Sep 2007 at 9:27 pm:
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    Concerned, I agree with you. Your “legal” Russion friend should not have to deal with this. The problem with this “multicultural” social worker legacy graduate student system your Russian friend experienced, and by your description felt the full wrath of the political activist professors who grew up in the 60s and 70s, is that they remember without forgiveness or any acknowledgement or concern they may be in the wrong, is that races at that time oppressed each other, and they needed to stand up for themselves. The problem now is, these same peole are so indoctrinated on racial advocacy issues and bias to take care of just their group that every issue about social, intellectual, or financial differences between “individuals” and opinions about how people should treat each other and get ahead (by skill, talent, ability, relationship or opportunity) is seen as a threat to racial balancing, privilege seeking, “equal outcomes” oriented groups of people . These people that “think” about these issues along racial, ethnic, gender and group lines don’t get it. They have no idea what equal opportunity, but not equal outcomes means. They have no idea they are applying the same techniques to gain privilege and self-imposed racial segregation for their own group’s benefit divides the community. They don’t see this as exactly what the majority racial groups of the past did. As soon as some “difference” or “benefit” is percieved as undeserved but gained by typical reasons of ability or talent, yet their own “group” doesn’t seem to be dominating they get upset and yell “unfair”! They counter this percieved unfairness to their race, gender, ethnic group, or religion with a tactic to make all “outcomes” equal or racially, ethnically, gender or religously “balanced” by creating a loud obnoxious voice in HRC committies to have a “diversity” or “inclusion” of EQUAL numbers participating in everything or getting special protections put into laws that are unconstitutionally tested, but give advantages other groups do not have. If this does not happen, and the racial balance or equal outcome does not occur, even when its based on individual talent, ability, and initiative, or fairness under the law, they start to scream discrimmination. Worse they openly divide into racial, ethnic, gender and religious groups, and scream for privileges, that no one else but their race, ethnic group, gender or religious group is entitled to. This privilege and racial, ethnic group, gender and religious group bullying mentality has to be stopped and the academic world needs to start advocating for racial, ethnic, gender, religious group “Blindness” which legally prevents and stops allowing these groups to form and politically advocate along racial, ethnic, gender and religious group lines. You see this blatent group aligned advocacy, divisiveness, and privilege promotion especially in the entertainment industry of racially divided media formats such as BET, Arab TV, Hispanic TV, Religious group TV, etc. that tells and encourages people of these groups they tailor the media content to, to only look out for themselves and that all other groups are trying to take advantage of you. It creates mistrust and hatred amoung these groups, for the groups that do not do that. You may notice their is no White TV, or Male TV or European ethnic group TV among the English speaking nations, unless you count BBC, or ABC or NBC or CBS as being racially or ethnically devisive (not!). It is this alignment of these advocating groups along racial, ethnic, gender, and religious group lines that causes todays academic and political problems, and is causing the division of the community, oppression of the majority by the minority, and a bullying devisive attitude that creates a “spiral out of control” phenomenon plagueing this once united and nationalistic but “individualistic” nation. The problem will only be solved when people advocate politically only as “individuals” and do not join racial, ethnic, gender or religious groups. The social workers and professors who teach social and political science curriculums CANNOT do this yet. You see it in everything they write, and in every form of media that is aligned along racial, ethnic, gender and religious group advocacy lines. Even our Senators and Congressmen have bought into this lunacy.
    Our problem here is trying to first deal with “illegal” people who are aligning themselves this way and thinking that is OK and a normal constitutional concept they used without thought but with “malice” in their native lands to suppress other groups they did not like. Now they do that here, because our laws can’t prevent them from doing it that way as they please, the way they are currently written and enforced to protect minorities from majority opinion and allow racial, ethnicm gender and religious self-interest groups to dominate the political landscape.

    What a mess!

  43. Jarhead said on 25 Sep 2007 at 9:57 pm:
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    Dolph- I understand about the confidentiality issues the County has but it is a shame Mr. Pierre might have a “say” in our children’s future!
    Looking at his website, he has pictures with another teacher who was fired from Freedom High School during the year of ‘05-’06. If that teacher would have been truthful on his application, he would never have been hired in the first place. I guess the saying “birds of a feather, flock together” is true.

    You are right about people that know the real storIES needing to come forward but I am sure that some are afraid of reprocussions from the schools. I do know that Mr. Pierre fabricated stories about other personnel at Freedom and thier family members. Even though he looked like a fool and was involuntarily transferred, he tried to ruin careers. I also know that he had similar problems at McAuliffe E.S. If you take a closer look at his history of problems, he tends to pick on the opposite gender.

  44. dolph said on 25 Sep 2007 at 11:06 pm:
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    Jarhead,

    I suppose CYA is alive and well in Prince William County.

    I have heard that another one of his buddies is no longer at Stonewall Middle. I am assuming it was another non-renewal of contract, but do not know that for a fact. I know that the teacher in question could not teach Eskimos to make ice cubes though because of the lack of knowledge of the subject by one of my own family members. Again, cryptic information. Again, birds of a feather.

    This sounds very much like bullying and harrassment to me. It is very serious when a staff member under contract is removed mid-year. Those decisions are never made lightly. To me, being removed mid year would automatically disqualify any individual from seeking a seat on the school board.

  45. me said on 25 Sep 2007 at 11:18 pm:
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    Jarhead,

    You sound familiar enough to know if the rumor I heard might be true….That he is not allowed on ANY School Board Property? I understand about SMS and Freedom, however I understood it to be ALL schools (again rumors between parents)….It frightens me that someone would be banned from all School Board Property and then would seek his ultimate personal revenge and to try and be elected to public office. It doesn’t seem that he has the children’s best interest in mind….rather his own self gratifying agenda

  46. Lafayette said on 26 Sep 2007 at 12:30 am:
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    me/jarhead
    My daughter attends SMS, I’ve heard some things from the kids. True, they are just kids. However, they are at the school everyday. I noticed some of the very same things I’ve heard from kids. I heard Mr Pierre spent a fair amount of time with another ESOL techer. I’ve also heard the kids mention his clothing. True, dress is a personal choice. I saw Mr. Pierre last year several times, and he’s the only teacher I’ve ever seen at the public schools. Mr. Pierre never even acknowledged parents when passing him in the halls or just outside the doors of the school. He should not be allowed to run for a School Board Member position anywhere, but especially here in PWC!!!

  47. John Light said on 26 Sep 2007 at 10:47 am:
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    Concerned: Back in the 70s, in Russia, there was a story about a little girl in a classroom. The teacher said, “Here on the map is America. There are many long lines for gasoline. They have much racial strife. The rich keep down the poor. They love only money.”

    “Now children, over here is Mother Russia. Russia is full of happiness. There are no lines for gasoline. Everyone loves each other because all people are equal.”

    “About this time the little girl begins to cry. ‘Anna, what is wrong my dear child???’ Then the little girl lifts her head and says, ‘I want to move to Mother Russia!!!’”

    Those who never went to live in Russia are the Dems who now run this country. We have a lame duck president who while he is right on the War on Terror could not be more wrong on immigration. He has a hostile Congress who would be put up for Treason if this was of a different age. The people of this country do not trust the President, but trust the Congress even less.

    My heart goes out to your friend, but he did what he felt was right. We need to close down the Department of Education and get rid of these Left Wing Hippy-Commie Fag Freaks who call themselves the intelligencia, throw political correctness out of the schools and return to the study of Western Civilization in our Social Studies programs, and start teaching AND enforcing right from wrong to our students and children.

    When was the last time you saw your child’s teacher wear a coat and tie or a dress? They seem to want to be their friends more than their superiors. Teachers should be MASTERS in their subjects of learning, NOT babysitters because some lazy parent does not want to take the time to assist (not do) their kids homework assignments. Let the kids have Coke (the soda) in High School and Jr. High but also make it mandatory for 2 years of physical training.

    And finally, I will take the PWCSB over Fairfax’s any day of the week, but that still means that ANYONE who runs for the School Board should be held to the higher standard. Manes Pierre does not even come close to that standard.

    And Dolph, while I respect your thoughts, if a teacher is removed for any reason by the police, as a parent I have every right to know why. Rumors spread wayyy too fast and knowledge will squash them. It will also give me comfort to know that the county takes the protection of my children, during school hours, seriously. By doing this, it may just keep in check those who are thinking of doing untoward things in the classroom.

  48. dolph said on 26 Sep 2007 at 4:33 pm:
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    John Light,

    Tough call. If criminal charges are pressed, I agree. If there is an escort off the property, then I don’t agree, necessarily. Criminal matters are public. Personnel matters are not.

    I don’t believe school systems are protecting wrong-doers as much as they are trying to protect themselves from a law suit.

  49. redawn said on 26 Sep 2007 at 5:25 pm:
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    Dolph,
    I agree, “if criminal charges are pressed.” I understand John’s concern but teachers do have the right to privacy as other professionals in different fields. You make an EXCELLENT point about criminal matters being pubic. That point is why I agree with you.

  50. John Light said on 28 Sep 2007 at 10:07 am:
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    But the right of privace ends with child pornography or molestation. THAT is what I am talking about. Admin matters (bad teacher, always late to work, etc) SHOULD be private, but CRIMINAL matters…THEN it should be held to public scrutiny just as ANY sex offender who is on “the list” is made public.

    Sorry for any confusion.

  51. dolph said on 28 Sep 2007 at 1:59 pm:
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    John Light,

    I totally agree. I think if any sex crimes were involved, it would be criminal.

    Now, and there is always a ‘but,’ there have been cases, I have been told, where there was enough suspicion of moral turpitude to remove an employee, but not enough for criminal charges to be filed. Those cases remain private but the employee disappears.

  52. Jody said on 6 Nov 2007 at 12:51 am:
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    Thank God

    Somebody can see through that idiot. I am delighted that you have done your homework America ; however, go a little deeper. Manes Pierre is an evil man. Ask him about his children in Florida. He abandoned them. Go to Broward County Clerk of Court. He has many charges of domestic violence. He is cruel. Vote for a pig instead of him

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