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	<title>Comments on: Mexicans Without Borders To Protest In Manassas</title>
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		<title>By: Angry Blackman!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28774</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Blackman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just glad they are coming up with a new jail for illegals. About time! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad they are coming up with a new jail for illegals. About time! <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28559</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mnd said on 30 Sep 2007 at 11:28 pm: 
redawn said on 30 Sep 2007 at 7:53 pm:

Jail time for both? Please.

Until I’ve got my own police escort I’ll be handling my own security detail.

To CLARIFY: IF used to commit a CRIME. I am for self protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mnd said on 30 Sep 2007 at 11:28 pm:<br />
redawn said on 30 Sep 2007 at 7:53 pm:</p>
<p>Jail time for both? Please.</p>
<p>Until I’ve got my own police escort I’ll be handling my own security detail.</p>
<p>To CLARIFY: IF used to commit a CRIME. I am for self protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28544</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28544</guid>
		<description>From:
Police briefs
Potomac News
Saturday, September 29, 2007
Burglar is discovered in Manassas house

A Manassas woman told police that she found a burglar in her house in the 9900 block of Hampton Road around 11:15 a.m. Thursday, according to Manassas police.
The 38-year-old told police that she was watching TV when she heard footsteps, according to a news release. The woman looked upstairs and saw a boy who looked to be in his teens.
The victim then ran outside and called for help.
Police said the burglar entered and left the house through a second floor
bedroom window. Stolen from the residence were the victim's purse and a jar full of assorted coins, valued at $150.
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Please note this is a seperate crime from the one previously posted.
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From:<br />
Police briefs<br />
Potomac News<br />
Saturday, September 29, 2007<br />
Burglar is discovered in Manassas house</p>
<p>A Manassas woman told police that she found a burglar in her house in the 9900 block of Hampton Road around 11:15 a.m. Thursday, according to Manassas police.<br />
The 38-year-old told police that she was watching TV when she heard footsteps, according to a news release. The woman looked upstairs and saw a boy who looked to be in his teens.<br />
The victim then ran outside and called for help.<br />
Police said the burglar entered and left the house through a second floor<br />
bedroom window. Stolen from the residence were the victim&#8217;s purse and a jar full of assorted coins, valued at $150.<br />
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Please note this is a seperate crime from the one previously posted.<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28543</guid>
		<description>Anonymous said on 30 Sep 2007 at 11:46 am: 
Mike, Where did you get your update from re: the punks being taken into custody?
______________________
I said: "UPDATE: MCPD has taken some of the neighborhood ‘kids’ into custody for this crime."

My source said:

UPDATE: 

Through other witnesses’ accounts, one runner was identified as “J...... C.....” who lives just around the corner from me.  A kid with a reputation that includes hitting his school resource officer.

Also, the house cleaner had make/model of car that was linked to J.....’s brother, D.... C......

A car was searched at their residence last night.  MCP was there for hours.  Someone was taken away in handcuffs.  

The officer was able to pull several prints from our home and is taking the knife and another small box to the “lab” since it looks like they were handled. He did tell me that it would about 5 days before those prints would be able to be matched.
_________________
Note that I have dotted out the names of the suspects so as to 'protect' this site for the possibllity of being cited for publishing the names of minor (?)suspects.   Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous said on 30 Sep 2007 at 11:46 am:<br />
Mike, Where did you get your update from re: the punks being taken into custody?<br />
______________________<br />
I said: &#8220;UPDATE: MCPD has taken some of the neighborhood ‘kids’ into custody for this crime.&#8221;</p>
<p>My source said:</p>
<p>UPDATE: </p>
<p>Through other witnesses’ accounts, one runner was identified as “J&#8230;&#8230; C&#8230;..” who lives just around the corner from me.  A kid with a reputation that includes hitting his school resource officer.</p>
<p>Also, the house cleaner had make/model of car that was linked to J&#8230;..’s brother, D&#8230;. C&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>A car was searched at their residence last night.  MCP was there for hours.  Someone was taken away in handcuffs.  </p>
<p>The officer was able to pull several prints from our home and is taking the knife and another small box to the “lab” since it looks like they were handled. He did tell me that it would about 5 days before those prints would be able to be matched.<br />
_________________<br />
Note that I have dotted out the names of the suspects so as to &#8216;protect&#8217; this site for the possibllity of being cited for publishing the names of minor (?)suspects.   Mike</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28518</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28518</guid>
		<description>Unmasmexican,

you're right..people who use machetes in crimes are not necessarily illegal but they are stupid. Virginia is a shall-issue concealed carry state. How you long think it will take before someone starts blasting?

stop focusing on tools and start focusing on people as one posted mentioned earlier. Guns are not the root of all evil, your gun control beliefs are yours but not necessarily others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unmasmexican,</p>
<p>you&#8217;re right..people who use machetes in crimes are not necessarily illegal but they are stupid. Virginia is a shall-issue concealed carry state. How you long think it will take before someone starts blasting?</p>
<p>stop focusing on tools and start focusing on people as one posted mentioned earlier. Guns are not the root of all evil, your gun control beliefs are yours but not necessarily others.</p>
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		<title>By: mnd</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28421</link>
		<dc:creator>mnd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28421</guid>
		<description>redawn said on 30 Sep 2007 at 7:53 pm:

Jail time for both?  Please.

Until I've got my own police escort I'll be handling my own security detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>redawn said on 30 Sep 2007 at 7:53 pm:</p>
<p>Jail time for both?  Please.</p>
<p>Until I&#8217;ve got my own police escort I&#8217;ll be handling my own security detail.</p>
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		<title>By: mnd</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28420</link>
		<dc:creator>mnd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28420</guid>
		<description>The Patriot said on 30 Sep 2007 at 6:23 pm:
UnMasMexican said on 30 Sep 2007 at 6:30 pm:

Both machetes and guns are legal to own.  Focus on the criminal, not the tool they use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patriot said on 30 Sep 2007 at 6:23 pm:<br />
UnMasMexican said on 30 Sep 2007 at 6:30 pm:</p>
<p>Both machetes and guns are legal to own.  Focus on the criminal, not the tool they use.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28381</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28381</guid>
		<description>Maureen,
Thanks for the info!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maureen,<br />
Thanks for the info!</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28361</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28361</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexican,
We finally agree. My personal opinion to you is that don't be so defensive without the fact of the people that comment here. There are many people from both sides that comment and people in between.
It seem you are tying to pick arguments with on all threads. To be taking serious, I would suggest working on your approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican,<br />
We finally agree. My personal opinion to you is that don&#8217;t be so defensive without the fact of the people that comment here. There are many people from both sides that comment and people in between.<br />
It seem you are tying to pick arguments with on all threads. To be taking serious, I would suggest working on your approach.</p>
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		<title>By: UnMasMexican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28358</link>
		<dc:creator>UnMasMexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28358</guid>
		<description>jail time for either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jail time for either.</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28342</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28342</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexican,
You are coming off as a DEFENDER in CRIME. What are you ideas and solutions to people running around with machetes and or guns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican,<br />
You are coming off as a DEFENDER in CRIME. What are you ideas and solutions to people running around with machetes and or guns?</p>
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		<title>By: UnMasMexican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28337</link>
		<dc:creator>UnMasMexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28337</guid>
		<description>Why would anyone need a gun? There are no...well, whatever people need guns for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone need a gun? There are no&#8230;well, whatever people need guns for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28335</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28335</guid>
		<description>unmas...that is funny....recently people were picked up with machetes in pwc! Do you not follow the news? By the way, why would anyone need a machete in our local cities? There are no jungles here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unmas&#8230;that is funny&#8230;.recently people were picked up with machetes in pwc! Do you not follow the news? By the way, why would anyone need a machete in our local cities? There are no jungles here!</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28334</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28334</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexican,

It is not spreading fear. It is a possible situation that needs to be looked into further as CONCERNDED citizens. NOT all people who use machetes in crimes are illegals, just criminal activity that needs attention for the well being of us ALL.  My goodness :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican,</p>
<p>It is not spreading fear. It is a possible situation that needs to be looked into further as CONCERNDED citizens. NOT all people who use machetes in crimes are illegals, just criminal activity that needs attention for the well being of us ALL.  My goodness <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sals</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28333</link>
		<dc:creator>Sals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28333</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexican, sounds like a pretty valid neighborhood alert to me. Is there anything wrong with not wanting a burglar in the house, or is that racist too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican, sounds like a pretty valid neighborhood alert to me. Is there anything wrong with not wanting a burglar in the house, or is that racist too?</p>
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		<title>By: UnMasMexican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28330</link>
		<dc:creator>UnMasMexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28330</guid>
		<description>Quick, spread the fear! Everywhere youlook it's illegals w/ machetes! Dios mio...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick, spread the fear! Everywhere youlook it&#8217;s illegals w/ machetes! Dios mio&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28312</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28312</guid>
		<description>I just got an email that said a similar crime was comitted on Bens Way. Very close to where I live. We need to get the word out to all of our neighbors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got an email that said a similar crime was comitted on Bens Way. Very close to where I live. We need to get the word out to all of our neighbors!</p>
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		<title>By: UnMasMexican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28265</link>
		<dc:creator>UnMasMexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28265</guid>
		<description>Machetes in CRIMES is different than standing in a public display. How many people have committed crimes in private with guns that never would show them at a display??

The picture is misleading designed to scare with the headline....a headline like "Do you want protests like this in Manassas?" would have been fair....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Machetes in CRIMES is different than standing in a public display. How many people have committed crimes in private with guns that never would show them at a display??</p>
<p>The picture is misleading designed to scare with the headline&#8230;.a headline like &#8220;Do you want protests like this in Manassas?&#8221; would have been fair&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28262</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28262</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexican,
By the way, he did mention this picture is in Mexico.

"They’ve named this eyesore the “liberty wall” in the same fashion as their EZLN parent organization creates “liberty walls” in Mexico, one of which is shown above."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican,<br />
By the way, he did mention this picture is in Mexico.</p>
<p>&#8220;They’ve named this eyesore the “liberty wall” in the same fashion as their EZLN parent organization creates “liberty walls” in Mexico, one of which is shown above.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28260</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/09/28/mexicans-without-borders-to-protest-in-manassas/#comment-28260</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexcian,

How can you be so SURE of yourself?


 redawn said on 25 Sep 2007 at 2:08 pm:

I found this in today’s MJM police briefs:

Sounds like POSSIBLE gang activity with the use of machetes? (just a thought)
The 2 men arrested, may have been renters. I have researched the owners of both properties and found them to be:
1719 Horner Rd: John &#38; Maria Medina
1721 Horner Rd:Paul H Baten

the 2 men arrested may have been renters.

http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&#38;c=MGArticle&#38;cid=1173352880383&#38;path=!news

“Woodbridge men arrested after machete attack”

“Two Woodbridge men were arrested after attacking each other with machetes in the 1700 block of Horner Road in Woodbridge around 4:20 a.m. Sunday, said Officer Erika Hernandez, Prince William police spokeswoman.

Bereni S. Dede, 28, of 1721 Horner Road, was charged with malicious wounding, obstruction of justice and assault and battery on a police officer. Jeremias Wilberto Ramirez, 30, of 1719 Horner Road, was charged with attempted malicious wounding.

Police said the two were drinking when they began to fight. Ramirez is accused of attacking Dede, who police say retaliated, cutting Ramirez’s hands with the machete.

According to police, Dede then began to fight when officers were arresting him.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexcian,</p>
<p>How can you be so SURE of yourself?</p>
<p> redawn said on 25 Sep 2007 at 2:08 pm:</p>
<p>I found this in today’s MJM police briefs:</p>
<p>Sounds like POSSIBLE gang activity with the use of machetes? (just a thought)<br />
The 2 men arrested, may have been renters. I have researched the owners of both properties and found them to be:<br />
1719 Horner Rd: John &amp; Maria Medina<br />
1721 Horner Rd:Paul H Baten</p>
<p>the 2 men arrested may have been renters.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173352880383&amp;path=" rel="nofollow">http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173352880383&amp;path=</a>!news</p>
<p>“Woodbridge men arrested after machete attack”</p>
<p>“Two Woodbridge men were arrested after attacking each other with machetes in the 1700 block of Horner Road in Woodbridge around 4:20 a.m. Sunday, said Officer Erika Hernandez, Prince William police spokeswoman.</p>
<p>Bereni S. Dede, 28, of 1721 Horner Road, was charged with malicious wounding, obstruction of justice and assault and battery on a police officer. Jeremias Wilberto Ramirez, 30, of 1719 Horner Road, was charged with attempted malicious wounding.</p>
<p>Police said the two were drinking when they began to fight. Ramirez is accused of attacking Dede, who police say retaliated, cutting Ramirez’s hands with the machete.</p>
<p>According to police, Dede then began to fight when officers were arresting him.”</p>
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