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	<title>Comments on: When Attorneys Lie, Justice Is Subverted</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28916</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28916</guid>
		<description>Did anyone see the half-built foreclosure at 107 Crozet St in MP?

The best part is, in the MLS it states:

"
  Bank Owned.Please note this one needs CASH OFFERS ONLY. WALK THE PROPERTY AT YOU OWN RISK.NO PLANS OR PERMITS, ARE AVIALABLE.Bring your builder to finish this house."

No plans or permits? 

Incidentally, they want $209K for it. They wanted $230K for it a week ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone see the half-built foreclosure at 107 Crozet St in MP?</p>
<p>The best part is, in the MLS it states:</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
  Bank Owned.Please note this one needs CASH OFFERS ONLY. WALK THE PROPERTY AT YOU OWN RISK.NO PLANS OR PERMITS, ARE AVIALABLE.Bring your builder to finish this house.&#8221;</p>
<p>No plans or permits? </p>
<p>Incidentally, they want $209K for it. They wanted $230K for it a week ago.</p>
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		<title>By: RACK N ROLL BILLIARD CLUB</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28566</link>
		<dc:creator>RACK N ROLL BILLIARD CLUB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28566</guid>
		<description>Dave B.

This does seem overwheming, and your right about what they think they can get away with.  

DO NOT GIVE UP.

Yesterday the planning commission voted to recommend revocation of RNR's permit.  

Maybe Dean should run around and hide everyone's computer.

Cuz BVBL is just getting warmed up.

Stay tuned, from here on out it gets interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave B.</p>
<p>This does seem overwheming, and your right about what they think they can get away with.  </p>
<p>DO NOT GIVE UP.</p>
<p>Yesterday the planning commission voted to recommend revocation of RNR&#8217;s permit.  </p>
<p>Maybe Dean should run around and hide everyone&#8217;s computer.</p>
<p>Cuz BVBL is just getting warmed up.</p>
<p>Stay tuned, from here on out it gets interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave B.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28557</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28557</guid>
		<description>"I ask again - where is Paul Ebert, the State Police, and the FBI?"

Obviously they feel no crimes have been committed or else they would be here. Batson has said that it is because they all scratch each others' backs, but I just think it's because they are crafty enough to know what they can get away with and what they can't. There will be nothing done about this. The only solution to those of us that live in Manassas Park is to pack all your $h1t and move to a different town. This town is overrun by corrupt officials and illegal aliens and nothing will change that, as sad as it is to say. This is the town that Virginia forgot.

I was taking a walk with my girlfriend yesterday and man this town is a mess. Tons of houses for sale and most likely in or near foreclosure, thugs hanging out on every corner, out of control kids running around in the streets, trash, etc. I'm going to have to buy a .38 special to use as my walking protection. I couldn't help but notice the new police station and the shops that they are building next to it, the new $35M school they have planned and wonder how in the HELL they plan to pay for these things. This town will soon be bankrupt and they have to know this by now. With any luck PWC will just absorb it when they can no longer pay the bills. I give this town 6-12 months before it goes bankrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I ask again - where is Paul Ebert, the State Police, and the FBI?&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously they feel no crimes have been committed or else they would be here. Batson has said that it is because they all scratch each others&#8217; backs, but I just think it&#8217;s because they are crafty enough to know what they can get away with and what they can&#8217;t. There will be nothing done about this. The only solution to those of us that live in Manassas Park is to pack all your $h1t and move to a different town. This town is overrun by corrupt officials and illegal aliens and nothing will change that, as sad as it is to say. This is the town that Virginia forgot.</p>
<p>I was taking a walk with my girlfriend yesterday and man this town is a mess. Tons of houses for sale and most likely in or near foreclosure, thugs hanging out on every corner, out of control kids running around in the streets, trash, etc. I&#8217;m going to have to buy a .38 special to use as my walking protection. I couldn&#8217;t help but notice the new police station and the shops that they are building next to it, the new $35M school they have planned and wonder how in the HELL they plan to pay for these things. This town will soon be bankrupt and they have to know this by now. With any luck PWC will just absorb it when they can no longer pay the bills. I give this town 6-12 months before it goes bankrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28469</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28469</guid>
		<description>I was trying to get some attention for the ongoing political corruption issues in Loudoun County from the State Attorney General's office, and they basically blew me off saying that perhaps the federal invesitgative agencies could be helpful.   They look at themselves purely as the state government's attorney it seems, even though I believe they have some oversight authority over the individual Commonwealth's Attorneys.  The CAs have far too much disrection, and there must be somewhere to turn other than the federal government.  I have started to raise the alarm that a special prosectuotr needs to be appointed for politcal corruption cases in Loudoun County, but it is obvious we need the same thing in PWC.  A state-level Special Prosecutor for these types of cases is urgently needed.  We should think about starting some type of petition or movement to press for this.  I would bet Bob McDonnell would be for it, but he needs to see a grassroots outpouring of demand for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to get some attention for the ongoing political corruption issues in Loudoun County from the State Attorney General&#8217;s office, and they basically blew me off saying that perhaps the federal invesitgative agencies could be helpful.   They look at themselves purely as the state government&#8217;s attorney it seems, even though I believe they have some oversight authority over the individual Commonwealth&#8217;s Attorneys.  The CAs have far too much disrection, and there must be somewhere to turn other than the federal government.  I have started to raise the alarm that a special prosectuotr needs to be appointed for politcal corruption cases in Loudoun County, but it is obvious we need the same thing in PWC.  A state-level Special Prosecutor for these types of cases is urgently needed.  We should think about starting some type of petition or movement to press for this.  I would bet Bob McDonnell would be for it, but he needs to see a grassroots outpouring of demand for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Krutis</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28467</link>
		<dc:creator>Krutis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28467</guid>
		<description>monticup - Judicial Watch would LOVE this!  Big headed Tom Fitton would get a virtual feather in his oversized cap.  His lawsuit in Herndon fizzled, totally, yet he insists that his action way back, is what closed the day laborer center.  So go with Tom!  What a great guy!  At least, he thinks so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>monticup - Judicial Watch would LOVE this!  Big headed Tom Fitton would get a virtual feather in his oversized cap.  His lawsuit in Herndon fizzled, totally, yet he insists that his action way back, is what closed the day laborer center.  So go with Tom!  What a great guy!  At least, he thinks so.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanK</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28464</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28464</guid>
		<description>Anyone who wants can file a bar complaint.  Depending on how the state bar's disciplinary committee works, they may not care that you are not an actual party to the dispute.  Plus, if you frame it in terms of "bringing disrepute to the legal profession," they generally won't care who it is from if the actions are as egregious as lying to a court or tribunal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who wants can file a bar complaint.  Depending on how the state bar&#8217;s disciplinary committee works, they may not care that you are not an actual party to the dispute.  Plus, if you frame it in terms of &#8220;bringing disrepute to the legal profession,&#8221; they generally won&#8217;t care who it is from if the actions are as egregious as lying to a court or tribunal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28458</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28458</guid>
		<description>This area should be taking note of Dallas' method of cleansing their illegal aliens.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/092807dnmetrallyfolo.2be87b3.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This area should be taking note of Dallas&#8217; method of cleansing their illegal aliens.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/092807dnmetrallyfolo.2be87b3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/092807dnmetrallyfolo.2be87b3.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28456</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28456</guid>
		<description>There is no "standing" requirement for the filing of Bar complaints.  Anyone with knowledge of a potential ethics violation may do so.

Of course, if one has no relationship to the matter, one risks inviting the charge of being an "officious intermeddler," if one does so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no &#8220;standing&#8221; requirement for the filing of Bar complaints.  Anyone with knowledge of a potential ethics violation may do so.</p>
<p>Of course, if one has no relationship to the matter, one risks inviting the charge of being an &#8220;officious intermeddler,&#8221; if one does so.</p>
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		<title>By: monticup</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28453</link>
		<dc:creator>monticup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28453</guid>
		<description>Has anyone called Judicial Watch re: the corrupt MP attorney?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone called Judicial Watch re: the corrupt MP attorney?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28451</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28451</guid>
		<description>The Patriot 1 Oct 2007 at 9:25 am video:

Yep, let's give them a path to citizenship. They only came here to provide for their families and send 23 billion bucks a year back to mexico.   Let's expand our visa programs so we can import more of this trash!  Notice the Che t-shirts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patriot 1 Oct 2007 at 9:25 am video:</p>
<p>Yep, let&#8217;s give them a path to citizenship. They only came here to provide for their families and send 23 billion bucks a year back to mexico.   Let&#8217;s expand our visa programs so we can import more of this trash!  Notice the Che t-shirts?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28450</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28450</guid>
		<description>Has no one provided the information on the Manassas Park case to the state attorney general for investigation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has no one provided the information on the Manassas Park case to the state attorney general for investigation?</p>
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		<title>By: Clean it up in '07</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28448</link>
		<dc:creator>Clean it up in '07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28448</guid>
		<description>Let's focus here.  We need to start to file Va. Sate Bar complaints against the Manassas Park City Attorney to start the possible disbarrment process.  As I understand it, you must be a citizen of Manassas Park to have standing to do that.

Anyone willing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s focus here.  We need to start to file Va. Sate Bar complaints against the Manassas Park City Attorney to start the possible disbarrment process.  As I understand it, you must be a citizen of Manassas Park to have standing to do that.</p>
<p>Anyone willing?</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28447</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28447</guid>
		<description>http://www.hometownstation.com/illegal-alien-welfare-2007-09-28-11-41-4.html
"LA County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich has announced that a new report shows illegal aliens and their families in Los Angeles County collected over $35 million in welfare and food stamp allocations in July."

This figure does NOT include the medical, education, etc. Now just imagine...this is only one county!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.hometownstation.com/illegal-alien-welfare-2007-09-28-11-41-4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hometownstation.com/illegal-alien-welfare-2007-09-28-11-41-4.html</a><br />
&#8220;LA County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich has announced that a new report shows illegal aliens and their families in Los Angeles County collected over $35 million in welfare and food stamp allocations in July.&#8221;</p>
<p>This figure does NOT include the medical, education, etc. Now just imagine&#8230;this is only one county!</p>
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		<title>By: k. o'toole</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28444</link>
		<dc:creator>k. o'toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28444</guid>
		<description>Patriot, thanks for link. Lovely immigrants - such a good example to their children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriot, thanks for link. Lovely immigrants - such a good example to their children.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Castle</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28443</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Castle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28443</guid>
		<description>How long until the entire Manassas Park government is brought down? This is a huge abuse of power, and maybe criminal. Greg and others have done a great job researching this. Imagine what maybe lurking out there waiting to be discovered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long until the entire Manassas Park government is brought down? This is a huge abuse of power, and maybe criminal. Greg and others have done a great job researching this. Imagine what maybe lurking out there waiting to be discovered.</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28440</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28440</guid>
		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeTD3cNBnBU&#38;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efiresociety%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fthread%2F18074%2FMexican%2Dgang%2Dbangers%2Dassault%2Dprotesters%2Din%2DLA%2DP%2EA%2EN%2E%2DMexico%2Devent%2D%2Dyoutube%2D%2F
I had to post this.....this is video of a recent protest in Lynwood, CA. I thought they were here to be peaceful and work hard! NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeTD3cNBnBU&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efiresociety%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fthread%2F18074%2FMexican%2Dgang%2Dbangers%2Dassault%2Dprotesters%2Din%2DLA%2DP%2EA%2EN%2E%2DMexico%2Devent%2D%2Dyoutube%2D%2F" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeTD3cNBnBU&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efiresociety%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Fthread%2F18074%2FMexican%2Dgang%2Dbangers%2Dassault%2Dprotesters%2Din%2DLA%2DP%2EA%2EN%2E%2DMexico%2Devent%2D%2Dyoutube%2D%2F</a><br />
I had to post this&#8230;..this is video of a recent protest in Lynwood, CA. I thought they were here to be peaceful and work hard! NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28438</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28438</guid>
		<description>It's also a specific ethics violation under the Rules of Professional Conduct in virtually every jurisdiction.

I'm a little confused about the dates, though.  Do you mean last October 10th, Greg?  Or is this a typo, and you meant September 10th?

[Ed note: You're correct about it being September 10th.  Thanks for the catch.  The post had been updated.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also a specific ethics violation under the Rules of Professional Conduct in virtually every jurisdiction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little confused about the dates, though.  Do you mean last October 10th, Greg?  Or is this a typo, and you meant September 10th?</p>
<p>[Ed note: You&#8217;re correct about it being September 10th.  Thanks for the catch.  The post had been updated.]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28435</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28435</guid>
		<description>What does film critic Paul Ebert have to do with this?

[Ed note: the reference is likely to Prince William Commonwealth's Attorney Paul Ebert.] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does film critic Paul Ebert have to do with this?</p>
<p>[Ed note: the reference is likely to Prince William Commonwealth&#8217;s Attorney Paul Ebert.]</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28433</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28433</guid>
		<description>I ask again - where is Paul Ebert, the State Police, and the FBI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ask again - where is Paul Ebert, the State Police, and the FBI?</p>
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		<title>By: Clean it up in '07</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28428</link>
		<dc:creator>Clean it up in '07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/01/when-attorneys-lie-justice-is-subverted/#comment-28428</guid>
		<description>Crowhurst needs to go to the same cell as Nifong.....after he is disbarred!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crowhurst needs to go to the same cell as Nifong&#8230;..after he is disbarred!!</p>
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