Comments on: Janet Oleszek: I Am A Californian

By: manassascityresident

manassascityresident — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:38:15 +0000

HOWARD - SEND YOUR MESSAGE TO THE SUPERVISORS! THEY NEED TO READ IT! Excellent!

By: monticup

monticup — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:56:54 +0000

Howard: Excellent post. Manassas is very important in this fight against the invasion. Manassas has become a household word thanks to you brave citizens.

By: Howard the Duck

Howard the Duck — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:48:04 +0000

park’d said on 7 Oct 2007 at 9:55 am:
And as an addition:

If culture means that I must accept that native English speaking children are getting a poor education because the non-English speaking children are taking up too many resources then I must be uncultured.

If culture means that I should just laugh it off when a gang of Hispanic men who idle at every 7-11 within a 100 square mile area cat-call my mom, niece, sister, girlfriend or any other woman around then I must be uncultured.

If culture means that I should just shrug it off as my neighbors live 10 to a house and drop trash all over my lawn, park in my spots, let their kids put their grubby hands all over my 25k car, burn a trail to the back of my house and kill the grass with people coming and going then I must be uncultured.

If culture means that I have to accept that I may die in the emergency room because it has been taken over by hundreds of poor Hispanics with no means who suck off the teet of society and require us to patch them up after they have a nailgun accident or are injured in a drunken brawl then I must be uncultured.

If culture means that I have to give the ‘Borat 2 thumbs up’ to all the trash that blows around my town now because the town was never meant to accommodate 10 people to a house then I must be uncultured.

If cultured means that I should just stay off the roads after 10pm for fear of being hit by a drunken illegal alien who will never be caught or prosecuted and will leave me dead or crippled then I must be uncultured.

etc…etc….etc…..

Manassas is viewed as a place where the first battle in this war is being waged. This issue has civil war potential to it. I just don’t think the politicians realize how volatile this situation is. I give it two more years of continued abuse and they certainly will. It’s up to us to make this THE key campaign issue of 2008 so that they can’t duck this issue any longer.

Great job this is priceless.

Now the next thing to do is ask the “candidate” if this is what Sacramento was like when she lived there.

By: The Patriot

The Patriot — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:52:23 +0000

Monti, bob, the guys and gals from “You Don’t Speak for Me” talk about the true agenda of La Raza. Go find those interviews I posted and take a listen. I posted them a while back (a week or so ago).

By: monticup

monticup — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:44:13 +0000

Bob Sentz: La Raza will not condemn that speech because that is exactly what they believe. Any disassociation will be for PR reasons only.

By: monticup

monticup — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:41:53 +0000

Dan: excellent point. The illegal labor is an artificial mechanism for keeping costs down. It’s subverting the market. These employers of illegal aliens need to cut costs by making their operations more efficient by innovation. They’re just looking at the short run and in time will lose any competitive edge they have. Using illegal labor is allowing these companies to get fat and lazy.

Did you know that the agribusinesses could be more efficient by turning to mechanization in many instances? But that would require an investment of capital. Much easier to use illegals and pass the costs on to us, the taxpayers.

By: Dan

Dan — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:09:48 +0000

What is significant about those breaking the law by hiring illegal migrant labor being against enforcement of this practice ? Isn’t this a dog bites man type of story ?

We must also remember that there has been absolutely no demonstrated correlation anywhere between the Consumer Price Index and a high influx of illegals. It costs me the same to have my home cleaned and my grass cut (adjusted for inflation) as it did 10 years ago. The statement “illegal labor keeps costs down” refers to employer costs and not consumer costs. This is NOT passed on to the consumer.

By: Bob Sentz

Bob Sentz — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:59:53 +0000

La Raza needs to disassociate themselves from radicals as the guy in the video. There are many other references of people spewing hatred and referencing La Raza. I haven’t heard La Raza condemn that speech.

By: The Patriot

The Patriot — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:04:33 +0000

Laura, I posted many many many other resources over the last several months (from around the country). That one video I posted is just ONE of the many. So it is not an isolated incident. When you put all the other factors I mentioned together it is not hard to see what is happening. Yes, there are groups of “legal assimilated American hispanics/latinos” that are against this type of activity (that are on our side)….but unfortunately they seem to be in very limited numbers. Which speaks volumes in and of itself of what is actually taking place around our country.

By: Laura

Laura — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:37:16 +0000

I was that person but I am no longer. I was the Interim ED of La Voz of Loudoun, but I have finished my work there and I am on to other things now.

By: Laura

Laura — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:21:19 +0000

I am curious as to where the link with that video and La Raza is. The fact that the speaker said “la raza” does not cut it. Even if there is, in my mind that is the same as posting a video of a KKK speach and coming to the conclusion that there “is something up” with the white folks in the US.
So often liberal activists feel that they are speaking in the best interest of the disadvantaged, in a very condescending way. It seems to me that the person speaking in that video is equally out of touch with the poeple he proports to be speaking for. Chavez, Castro, they are enemies of democracy, free speach, and capiltalism, all of the things that ultimately draw immigrants here from around the globe. Don’t make the mistake of assuming that his words are representative of the majority Hispanic immigrants. There are real issues here, overcrowding exists and may be disproportionate to Hispanic households, but Lelia is on to someting equally legitimate. Posting links to the most extreme video clip that you can find and trying to link those views to millions of people in the US is reminisent of both the worst of the McCarthyist era and WWII Japense internment camps. Communism was a real threat, much more so than the crap that that guy on the video is spewing, but a threat does not justify any and all menas to eliminate the threat. Step up the level of discourse and perhaps we can make some progress.

[Ed note: Are you the same person who is the spokesperson for La Voz of Loudoun?]

By: Bob Sentz

Bob Sentz — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:16:36 +0000

How in the world do you only hire Americans? I recently hired University Painters to paint my house. I asked the owner if his employees were all legal. He told me they were legal and long time employees. I don’t think so. What showed up was a crew of 5 hispanics. One of which spoke broken English the rest zero English. As a side note, they did a horrible job. I had to hire another contractor to fix and finish the job. In the end, it would have been more cost effective to have verified the legality of their employees. But, as a citizen, how is that done?

By: Leila

Leila — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:15:15 +0000

Monticup, I don’t know if you are right or not about costs. But the fact that a coalition of business interests and the US Chamber of Commerce is opposing the no-match letters is significant. After all that is just a baby step toward the mass exodus you desire. As much as the Republican Party likes to play to its base on illegal immigration (just like abortion, gay marriage, etc.), its key constituency is and has always been business. I doubt very much that anything will be done ultimately against the interests of that constituency. That, combined with lawsuits and local costs for schemes like PWC’s, etc., makes it clear to me anyway that your party’s politicians at the local and national level are playing you on this issue.

And even though the base gets all riled up, it has very noticeably not rallied to the side of the one Republican candidate who has made illegal aliens his signature issue.

By: monticup

monticup — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:07:27 +0000

Bob Sentz: If the illegal aliens were to return home, some costs would go up and some costs would go down. The truth is, illegal immigration is a net loss for Americans–low skilled, uneducated individuals end up sucking resources out of government (the taxpayers). Business that have been getting the benefit of illegal workers would have to become more efficient and innovative. Agribusiness might have to spend money to mechanize, etc. And they might have to pay an American or legal worker more. I only hire Americans for work around my house. I do pay more but I feel it is worth it.

By: Bob Sentz

Bob Sentz — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:53:06 +0000

You need to separate legal from illegal (re: low-skilled immigrant). Afterall, that is the argument. No mention of illegal labor mentioned above. Maybe the financial impact is that I’ll need to pay $45.00 instead of $37.00 to mow my lawn. I’m for that.

By: monticup

monticup — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:49:10 +0000

Leila: The Wall Street Journal is notoriously pro-illegal alien and pro-amnesty. They periodically run pro-open borders columns. They do not run any articles that disagree with them on the issue of illegal immigration. The WSJ doesn’t care that the US has become the dumping ground for the undesirables of Mexico and Central America and that these corrupt countries are sending the bottom of their societies here. It’s a twofer for them–they get rid of their social problems plus they get remittances sent home.

By: Leila

Leila — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:37:55 +0000

That may or may not be so Bob, but just want to make sure it is known that the Republican-run USCC and that wet dream of all Republican presidential candidates, the small business community, is also trying to quash the no-match letters, not just the liberals of the ACLU.

By: Leila

Leila — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:35:22 +0000

While it is easy to get around the WSJ preview/pay function,should you not care to, the pertinent graph is this:

“In early September, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and several trade groups representing small businesses that employ low-skilled immigrants joined the lawsuit. Among others, the United Fresh Produce Association, the National Roofing Contractors Association and the Association of Nursery and Landscapers allege the Department of Homeland Security failed to perform a financial-impact assessment, as required under the Regulatory Flexibility Act, to measure the impact of the new rule on small businesses.”

By: Bob Sentz

Bob Sentz — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:34:58 +0000

Leila-That’s just it. How do you get sued for enforcing the law? I find that rediculous. Not to mention transparent.

By: The Patriot

The Patriot — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:28:06 +0000

For those that have seen the video I posted….I have posted others from different sources just like it. Now put that together with the flying of Mexican flags all around the country, lack of patriotic assimilation around our country, and the sheer numbers of illegal aliens in cities around our country (not just in our county) and the big picture becomes clearer. Something is definitely going on.