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	<title>Comments on: Mexicans Without Borders At The BOCS Today</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-34899</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-34899</guid>
		<description>Exactly,

We need to advocate as Individuals, not groups, which is the exact opposite of facism, which tries to enforce one group policy (the facist policy of oppression by aligning and advocating by groups) on all others.  Prohibiting this leads to advocacy only as individuals, and rights given only to individuals, based on some merit other than group characteristics. The country is going down the group privilige advocacy road (leads to conflict and facism), rather than individual freedom and advocacy, which leads to unification of a nation and democracy.  The founding fathers knew this and prohibited religious group priviliged rights for this very reason.  There was no law that could be made benefiting religious groups.  We need to extend the concepts to no law being made benefiting gender groups, ethnic groups and racial groups.  AND stop advocating for privileges based on these group identities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly,</p>
<p>We need to advocate as Individuals, not groups, which is the exact opposite of facism, which tries to enforce one group policy (the facist policy of oppression by aligning and advocating by groups) on all others.  Prohibiting this leads to advocacy only as individuals, and rights given only to individuals, based on some merit other than group characteristics. The country is going down the group privilige advocacy road (leads to conflict and facism), rather than individual freedom and advocacy, which leads to unification of a nation and democracy.  The founding fathers knew this and prohibited religious group priviliged rights for this very reason.  There was no law that could be made benefiting religious groups.  We need to extend the concepts to no law being made benefiting gender groups, ethnic groups and racial groups.  AND stop advocating for privileges based on these group identities.</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-31173</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-31173</guid>
		<description>I think what Michael was saying (correct me if I am wrong Michael) is that we need to prohibit ethnic-centric/religious type of groups from lobbying congress/senate in order to make policy on behalf of a particular ethnic-centric/religious group. Instead, policy should be made on behalf of ALL AMERICANS regardless of ethnicity/religious affiliation. I would agree to this...because it promotes equality across the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what Michael was saying (correct me if I am wrong Michael) is that we need to prohibit ethnic-centric/religious type of groups from lobbying congress/senate in order to make policy on behalf of a particular ethnic-centric/religious group. Instead, policy should be made on behalf of ALL AMERICANS regardless of ethnicity/religious affiliation. I would agree to this&#8230;because it promotes equality across the board.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-31089</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-31089</guid>
		<description>"The last step this country needs to take to truly achieve respect for all individuals of different races, genders, ethnic groups and religious groups, is to probibit and disallow ethnic, racial, religious and gender group advocacy, and political alignment."

Whoaa there Michael...we don't live in a Fascist state as yet!  People are still free to think and to disagree in this country!  I have generally agreed with everything you have said, but this crosses a totalitarian line with which I am REALLY uncomfortable.  If the day comes that laws are passed prohibiting and disallowing ethnic, racial, religious, and gender group advocacy, or any political alignment, that's the day when we should move to one of the old Soviet block countries because we might be able to find greater freedom!

If this is not what you meant, I hope you will clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The last step this country needs to take to truly achieve respect for all individuals of different races, genders, ethnic groups and religious groups, is to probibit and disallow ethnic, racial, religious and gender group advocacy, and political alignment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoaa there Michael&#8230;we don&#8217;t live in a Fascist state as yet!  People are still free to think and to disagree in this country!  I have generally agreed with everything you have said, but this crosses a totalitarian line with which I am REALLY uncomfortable.  If the day comes that laws are passed prohibiting and disallowing ethnic, racial, religious, and gender group advocacy, or any political alignment, that&#8217;s the day when we should move to one of the old Soviet block countries because we might be able to find greater freedom!</p>
<p>If this is not what you meant, I hope you will clarify.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-31063</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-31063</guid>
		<description>ABM, I so much agree with you.  Since the 60s White-Americans and Black Americans, have done so much to merge and blend their cultures and heritages into a new culture just called AMERICAN.  We have all prospered as a result (although not as much as EVERYONE wants, because individuals all have a wide range of different abilities and not everyone makes identical salaries.  That is not possible, but it can be close). A few have still clung to the belief that they need to identify themselves as White or Black and belong to racially aligned advocacy groups whose leaders are continuing to lead them into poverty, crime, ethnic hatred, and break-down of the family, relying heavily on the government, while blaming everyone else for the individuals problems.  These last ethnic hatred holdouts and their attitudes need to change and political groups like this need to be prohibited.

The last step this country needs to take to truly achieve respect for all individuals of different races, genders, ethnic groups and religious groups, is to probibit and disallow ethnic, racial, religious and gender group advocacy, and political alignment.  Laws should require everyone to act and advocate on issues as "individuals" and join groups that are NEVER aligned along Gender, Religious, Racial or Ethnic group lines.  This is how we will achieve harmony and prosperity together, unity and mutual respect, culturally blended similarity and trust, not diversity and division.  If I could run for political office I would, and I would pick every talented person I could, who truely believed this, and who advocates BETRAYAL of their ethnic, gender, religious, and racial group, on the principal that NO-One is any different than another, and deserves no privilege above, or discrimmination below another individual.  I would make those selections with no pictures, and NO language that identifies what race, religion, gender or ethnic group these individuals on my political team are from.  The only criteria I would use to select my campaign team (hopefully including many different talents regardless of race, religion, gender or ethnic group), is intellect, ability, skill, and lawfullness (ethics).

The first thing I would create as a Bill in congress is a law that prevents any group association aligned and politically advocating along racial, gender, religious and ethnic group lines.  People who are ethically unlawful, would be deported or put into jail.

The problem people just don't get about "illegal" immigration is that it's Illegal, and its spread across all racial, gender, religious, and ethnic group lines, and it is destroying our country financially, ethically and socially.  These illegal groups are taking us back 20 years in our fight against privilege, discrimmination and ethnic group advocacy, by doing exactly what people in the 60's did.  This is why we must unit and remove them, taking in only those who have a higher sense of ethics and fairness, and an attitude of respect for all other cultures, races, genders and religious groups. These "illegals" do not thave that, and our current congressmen and politicians do not have that perspective either.  They too have gone backwards advocating for special gender, religious, racial and ethnic group privileges and laws.  I know ABM that is what you are fighting against and so am I.  If we win this fight, this nation will economically prosper again like it did as we merged our cultures in the 60s, 70s, 80, and 90s, and treated each other with more respect as "individuals" and not "groups".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABM, I so much agree with you.  Since the 60s White-Americans and Black Americans, have done so much to merge and blend their cultures and heritages into a new culture just called AMERICAN.  We have all prospered as a result (although not as much as EVERYONE wants, because individuals all have a wide range of different abilities and not everyone makes identical salaries.  That is not possible, but it can be close). A few have still clung to the belief that they need to identify themselves as White or Black and belong to racially aligned advocacy groups whose leaders are continuing to lead them into poverty, crime, ethnic hatred, and break-down of the family, relying heavily on the government, while blaming everyone else for the individuals problems.  These last ethnic hatred holdouts and their attitudes need to change and political groups like this need to be prohibited.</p>
<p>The last step this country needs to take to truly achieve respect for all individuals of different races, genders, ethnic groups and religious groups, is to probibit and disallow ethnic, racial, religious and gender group advocacy, and political alignment.  Laws should require everyone to act and advocate on issues as &#8220;individuals&#8221; and join groups that are NEVER aligned along Gender, Religious, Racial or Ethnic group lines.  This is how we will achieve harmony and prosperity together, unity and mutual respect, culturally blended similarity and trust, not diversity and division.  If I could run for political office I would, and I would pick every talented person I could, who truely believed this, and who advocates BETRAYAL of their ethnic, gender, religious, and racial group, on the principal that NO-One is any different than another, and deserves no privilege above, or discrimmination below another individual.  I would make those selections with no pictures, and NO language that identifies what race, religion, gender or ethnic group these individuals on my political team are from.  The only criteria I would use to select my campaign team (hopefully including many different talents regardless of race, religion, gender or ethnic group), is intellect, ability, skill, and lawfullness (ethics).</p>
<p>The first thing I would create as a Bill in congress is a law that prevents any group association aligned and politically advocating along racial, gender, religious and ethnic group lines.  People who are ethically unlawful, would be deported or put into jail.</p>
<p>The problem people just don&#8217;t get about &#8220;illegal&#8221; immigration is that it&#8217;s Illegal, and its spread across all racial, gender, religious, and ethnic group lines, and it is destroying our country financially, ethically and socially.  These illegal groups are taking us back 20 years in our fight against privilege, discrimmination and ethnic group advocacy, by doing exactly what people in the 60&#8217;s did.  This is why we must unit and remove them, taking in only those who have a higher sense of ethics and fairness, and an attitude of respect for all other cultures, races, genders and religious groups. These &#8220;illegals&#8221; do not thave that, and our current congressmen and politicians do not have that perspective either.  They too have gone backwards advocating for special gender, religious, racial and ethnic group privileges and laws.  I know ABM that is what you are fighting against and so am I.  If we win this fight, this nation will economically prosper again like it did as we merged our cultures in the 60s, 70s, 80, and 90s, and treated each other with more respect as &#8220;individuals&#8221; and not &#8220;groups&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Leila</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-31062</link>
		<dc:creator>Leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-31062</guid>
		<description>Carlos, I agree that people will likely comply, but I don't think they have to without reasonable suspicion. I specified in a situation of just walking down the street or similar. Once you get into transportation things change obviously. Although I would imagine by law only the driver of a car would need to show anything under the law. On a bus etc., I guess there has been some extension at times to the kind of ID requirement mandated at airports. But I was literally asking about a person walking down the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos, I agree that people will likely comply, but I don&#8217;t think they have to without reasonable suspicion. I specified in a situation of just walking down the street or similar. Once you get into transportation things change obviously. Although I would imagine by law only the driver of a car would need to show anything under the law. On a bus etc., I guess there has been some extension at times to the kind of ID requirement mandated at airports. But I was literally asking about a person walking down the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30736</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30736</guid>
		<description>Angry Blackman,
It's nice to see someone knows some county history. I'm sure you are familiar then with what WestGate/Sudley were like back in the day. Did you ever attend school in PWC? We could ride our bikes or walk all over and our parents never had to worry. My daughter goes to the same schools I did. These are not the same streets I walked to school on. I'm sure you can say the same for childhood neighborhood. 
I'm glad to know you belong to HSM. We always need more concern members!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Blackman,<br />
It&#8217;s nice to see someone knows some county history. I&#8217;m sure you are familiar then with what WestGate/Sudley were like back in the day. Did you ever attend school in PWC? We could ride our bikes or walk all over and our parents never had to worry. My daughter goes to the same schools I did. These are not the same streets I walked to school on. I&#8217;m sure you can say the same for childhood neighborhood.<br />
I&#8217;m glad to know you belong to HSM. We always need more concern members!</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30583</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30583</guid>
		<description>I agree with Angry! Our neighborhoods have really gone down hill since the later 90's (when the invasion really started to pick up the pace). That says something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Angry! Our neighborhoods have really gone down hill since the later 90&#8217;s (when the invasion really started to pick up the pace). That says something.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Blackman!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30573</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Blackman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30573</guid>
		<description>Hooray for Ted and also the Minutemen. We need this in Manassas. ANYONE against Illegals...I'm all for!

Also, for the poster who think's I'm not black..."you are wrong"! Little Black History for this ignorant poster who thinks I'm not black. What I'm doing now is spreading the word at the barbershops, Hair Salons, etc. that HSM is not just for whites but for those who are interested in saving Manassas from Illegals and there are so, so many more like myself...BLACKS I'm talking about! :)

Born in Fauquier County, moved to Fairfax and then to Manassas, went to Jennie Dean Middle School and then Osbourn, in case you don't know it, Jennie Dean was a former Slave who is buried in Catharpin, Va. My family went to W.C. Taylor in Warrenton which back in the day was for blacks until the late 1960's when Fauquier High was intergrated. My family taught us "Black Pride" however we treated all based on character. 

I remember when Georgetown South was middle class and then fell somewhat...now it's full of illegals...same for Point of Woods and Bristow Station. Go to places like Liberty St, Douglas St., etc. and speak to any black over the age of 60 and see how frustrated they are that these neighborhoods are now going to crap BECAUSE of ILLEGALS. These hoods once were predominantly black but the homes were immaculate, the neighborhoods were clean and "respect" was given to the elders. 

NOW, things have changed and for the worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray for Ted and also the Minutemen. We need this in Manassas. ANYONE against Illegals&#8230;I&#8217;m all for!</p>
<p>Also, for the poster who think&#8217;s I&#8217;m not black&#8230;&#8221;you are wrong&#8221;! Little Black History for this ignorant poster who thinks I&#8217;m not black. What I&#8217;m doing now is spreading the word at the barbershops, Hair Salons, etc. that HSM is not just for whites but for those who are interested in saving Manassas from Illegals and there are so, so many more like myself&#8230;BLACKS I&#8217;m talking about! <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Born in Fauquier County, moved to Fairfax and then to Manassas, went to Jennie Dean Middle School and then Osbourn, in case you don&#8217;t know it, Jennie Dean was a former Slave who is buried in Catharpin, Va. My family went to W.C. Taylor in Warrenton which back in the day was for blacks until the late 1960&#8217;s when Fauquier High was intergrated. My family taught us &#8220;Black Pride&#8221; however we treated all based on character. </p>
<p>I remember when Georgetown South was middle class and then fell somewhat&#8230;now it&#8217;s full of illegals&#8230;same for Point of Woods and Bristow Station. Go to places like Liberty St, Douglas St., etc. and speak to any black over the age of 60 and see how frustrated they are that these neighborhoods are now going to crap BECAUSE of ILLEGALS. These hoods once were predominantly black but the homes were immaculate, the neighborhoods were clean and &#8220;respect&#8221; was given to the elders. </p>
<p>NOW, things have changed and for the worse.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30565</link>
		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leila,I forgot;you must show a valid driver license when stopped for a traffic violation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leila,I forgot;you must show a valid driver license when stopped for a traffic violation.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30564</link>
		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30564</guid>
		<description>Leila I don't know if one has to provide an ICE agent with an ID when asked but feds have powers that local police can only dream of. Al Capone murdered who knows how many people,but the feds got him on tax evasion. ICE agents routinely hop aboard trains and buses and ask for ID and take into custody anyone who lacks it. Most people will blurt out the truth when suddenly confronted by authority figures so maybe the question of whether the feds have the right to demand ID is a moot point I know basic law as well as any attorney and have never been beaten by a government hack in an administrative court on disability or unemployment insurance appeals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leila I don&#8217;t know if one has to provide an ICE agent with an ID when asked but feds have powers that local police can only dream of. Al Capone murdered who knows how many people,but the feds got him on tax evasion. ICE agents routinely hop aboard trains and buses and ask for ID and take into custody anyone who lacks it. Most people will blurt out the truth when suddenly confronted by authority figures so maybe the question of whether the feds have the right to demand ID is a moot point I know basic law as well as any attorney and have never been beaten by a government hack in an administrative court on disability or unemployment insurance appeals.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30517</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30517</guid>
		<description>Anonymous said on 10 Oct 2007 at 6:02 pm: 
Angry blackman.

I think the guy who name himself “Angry blackman.,” I have a feeling that he is not “black” maybe it was picked from,somebody who just want to use the black race.
HSM, is trying to persuade black people , you all will not achieve it.


Obviously, you're an idiot!! But, thanks for sharing!! Oh, by the way, don't let the door hit ou on the ass on the way OUT!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous said on 10 Oct 2007 at 6:02 pm:<br />
Angry blackman.</p>
<p>I think the guy who name himself “Angry blackman.,” I have a feeling that he is not “black” maybe it was picked from,somebody who just want to use the black race.<br />
HSM, is trying to persuade black people , you all will not achieve it.</p>
<p>Obviously, you&#8217;re an idiot!! But, thanks for sharing!! Oh, by the way, don&#8217;t let the door hit ou on the ass on the way OUT!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30489</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30489</guid>
		<description>Angry blackman.

I think the guy who name himself "Angry blackman.," I have  a  feeling that he is not "black"  maybe  it was picked from,somebody who just want to use the black race.
HSM, is trying to persuade black people , you all will not achieve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry blackman.</p>
<p>I think the guy who name himself &#8220;Angry blackman.,&#8221; I have  a  feeling that he is not &#8220;black&#8221;  maybe  it was picked from,somebody who just want to use the black race.<br />
HSM, is trying to persuade black people , you all will not achieve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30455</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30455</guid>
		<description>Legal2
I want to know what "mom" thought of the "power of 5" speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legal2<br />
I want to know what &#8220;mom&#8221; thought of the &#8220;power of 5&#8243; speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30449</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30449</guid>
		<description>What I really want to know is what "mom" thought of S.Pandering-act's outfit yesterday...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I really want to know is what &#8220;mom&#8221; thought of S.Pandering-act&#8217;s outfit yesterday&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30444</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30444</guid>
		<description>Fed up 2,
My closing statement at Citizen's time at 7:30 was... I don't want to hear about the "power of 5". I want to hear the "power of 8", just like on 7/10/2007. I sure hope they were listening!!!
I couldn't believe the nerve of Sharon and that "speech". What's wrong with her? A UNITED PWCBOS is what I want, and think most do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fed up 2,<br />
My closing statement at Citizen&#8217;s time at 7:30 was&#8230; I don&#8217;t want to hear about the &#8220;power of 5&#8243;. I want to hear the &#8220;power of 8&#8243;, just like on 7/10/2007. I sure hope they were listening!!!<br />
I couldn&#8217;t believe the nerve of Sharon and that &#8220;speech&#8221;. What&#8217;s wrong with her? A UNITED PWCBOS is what I want, and think most do.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sentz</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30441</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry Black Man Have you heard of Ted Hayes?

I'd be interested in your opinion of Ted after viewing the video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nmgnxA8wbK8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Black Man Have you heard of Ted Hayes?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in your opinion of Ted after viewing the video.<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=nmgnxA8wbK8" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=nmgnxA8wbK8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angry Blackman!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30425</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Blackman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30425</guid>
		<description>There are many ANGRY Black men in Manassas and I'm talking those that are over 65. They are angry at how these illegals have trashed Manassas. Heck, I grew up in Point of Woods (80's) and my parents still live there and are surrounded by illegals. One house was found to contain 20 people in one townhouse and this is why we are fed up. 

Also, don't EVEN try to equate the Civil Rights to the breaking of US LAW.

Help Save Manassas is needed in a huge way or else Manassas will soon look like Alexandria and Arlington. Hooray for the new jail being talked about for illegals...Hooray for Mr. Stewart and Hooray for HSM!


P.S.
Hooray for what ICE is starting to do along with our local police force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many ANGRY Black men in Manassas and I&#8217;m talking those that are over 65. They are angry at how these illegals have trashed Manassas. Heck, I grew up in Point of Woods (80&#8217;s) and my parents still live there and are surrounded by illegals. One house was found to contain 20 people in one townhouse and this is why we are fed up. </p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t EVEN try to equate the Civil Rights to the breaking of US LAW.</p>
<p>Help Save Manassas is needed in a huge way or else Manassas will soon look like Alexandria and Arlington. Hooray for the new jail being talked about for illegals&#8230;Hooray for Mr. Stewart and Hooray for HSM!</p>
<p>P.S.<br />
Hooray for what ICE is starting to do along with our local police force.</p>
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		<title>By: Leila</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30420</link>
		<dc:creator>Leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30420</guid>
		<description>Patriot, I don't doubt for a minute MSF has an agenda. Their website goes into great detail about their agenda. I am unclear what you mean by "bigger." I meant importance, not size. As for your standing by your remarks, that goes without saying. I would have been shocked had you typed (or macro'd) anything else.

Carlos, that was interesting. You say that an ICE agent can question anyone at all at any time about being legal or illegal. However, is
that person required to reply or produce identification?

 The United States has no required national ID card, and if a person is just walking down the street or similar, there is no legal requirement that have an ID on them, produce it to a police officer, or answer any questions. Are you saying that ICE has more power in this regard without reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. Reasonable suspicion of criminal activity would have to be more than appearance or accent etc, according to the relevant constitutional law. Even the proposals in PWC predicate such questioning on having ALREADY broken the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriot, I don&#8217;t doubt for a minute MSF has an agenda. Their website goes into great detail about their agenda. I am unclear what you mean by &#8220;bigger.&#8221; I meant importance, not size. As for your standing by your remarks, that goes without saying. I would have been shocked had you typed (or macro&#8217;d) anything else.</p>
<p>Carlos, that was interesting. You say that an ICE agent can question anyone at all at any time about being legal or illegal. However, is<br />
that person required to reply or produce identification?</p>
<p> The United States has no required national ID card, and if a person is just walking down the street or similar, there is no legal requirement that have an ID on them, produce it to a police officer, or answer any questions. Are you saying that ICE has more power in this regard without reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. Reasonable suspicion of criminal activity would have to be more than appearance or accent etc, according to the relevant constitutional law. Even the proposals in PWC predicate such questioning on having ALREADY broken the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed up 2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30411</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed up 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30411</guid>
		<description>Vote Corey Stewart.!!!!

Yes, he may not do all things that we all want but he is very sincere in this illegal alien episode.

Pandak was trying to say something in her last disertation and used the "Power of 5" several times. She does not know what she is doing and she's a developers dream.
She knows how to wiggle  &#38; wag, for an answer.

She can not speak from the heart. She has to have a rehearsed speech.

She also will do as Barg says and Jenkins. 

So we can not let them get "5" on that board as we already have  a couple that will jump ship.

When Corey gets in and Royse,that will give the other 2/3 reason to do what is right. Stirrup will make sure they will be on the right track.

Ideal Board  will be Stewart, Stirrup,Royse,May,Covington,Caddigan and Nohe will fall in with the majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote Corey Stewart.!!!!</p>
<p>Yes, he may not do all things that we all want but he is very sincere in this illegal alien episode.</p>
<p>Pandak was trying to say something in her last disertation and used the &#8220;Power of 5&#8243; several times. She does not know what she is doing and she&#8217;s a developers dream.<br />
She knows how to wiggle  &amp; wag, for an answer.</p>
<p>She can not speak from the heart. She has to have a rehearsed speech.</p>
<p>She also will do as Barg says and Jenkins. </p>
<p>So we can not let them get &#8220;5&#8243; on that board as we already have  a couple that will jump ship.</p>
<p>When Corey gets in and Royse,that will give the other 2/3 reason to do what is right. Stirrup will make sure they will be on the right track.</p>
<p>Ideal Board  will be Stewart, Stirrup,Royse,May,Covington,Caddigan and Nohe will fall in with the majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30384</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/09/mexicans-without-borders-at-the-bocs-today/#comment-30384</guid>
		<description>The Patriot,
Have you called to tell them about the meeting on 10/16/07?
How are those responses coming along?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patriot,<br />
Have you called to tell them about the meeting on 10/16/07?<br />
How are those responses coming along?</p>
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