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It’s Show Time!
By Greg L | 16 October 2007 | Illegal Aliens, Prince William County | 860 Comments
Today the Prince William Board of County Supervisors will meet and decide on the final implementation of the resolution in support of the rule of law that was unanimously passed by the board on July 10th. If you can get to this meeting anytime between 1:30 PM and 5:00 PM, you will probably have an opportunity to have your voice heard during citizen’s time. Unless you want to cede the debate to the illegal alien lobby, which is going to be there in force today, you need to be there.
Supervisors Nohe, Jenkins and Barg have not indicated how they will vote, but the other supervisors — a majority — have indicated that they will support the final implementation details of this critical county policy. There’s still time to contact them before the vote, but being at the meeting should be your priority.
Here’s an example of why this vote is important:
I am coming to you with first hand experiences on some of the above items I have mentioned. 5 years ago I had my new car stolen out of a parking lot at work. Fortunately it was recovered, but unfortunately it was involved in a an accident while a state trooper was giving chase. Total cost to fix my car was approximately $12000.
Guess who stole it? An illegal immigrant, who had recently gotten out of prison & was charged with 4 felonies. The state trooper told me he was charging him with 4 more felonies for a total of 8 against him. Once the courts got through with him he would be deported by INS. Bottom line, he was released from jail due to the eyewitnesses not appearing for the court date and me not being summons to appear by the state trooper, due to having the eyewitness stating they would appear.
The state trooper then had to go back out to find this illegal felon who had no known address, arrest him again, summons me and other eyewitnesses again. Do you think he found Him? Hell no.
The policy being voted on today would, if it had been in place at the time this happens, have ensured that the illegal alien in question would be detained for deportation instead of being released back into our community. The Section 287(g) Program may have netted this criminal illegal alien, but if not the authority being given to the police department under General Order 45.01 would have allowed this criminal to be detained and deported regardless of whether he was successfully prosecuted for a felony offense.
This story is hardly the first one of these I’ve heard. Citizens regularly tell me of property damage they’ve suffered at the hands of an illegal alien and are outraged that the illegal alien seemingly got more lenient treatment than they would expect had they committed the offense, and was never deported after they’ve clearly demonstrated the risk they pose to the citizens. This has got to stop, and today we have the opportunity to see that it does.
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I have a 2 o’clock appointment in Rockville, otherwise I would be there. Good luck to all those that attend!
Vote Yes and also, I’d like to thank Mr. Stewart for mailing the flyers out! It’s time we rid this area of ALL illegals!
ALERT - ALERT - ALERT
I got this from another forum today:
“Amnesty Advocates Set to Bring DREAM Act to the Floor!
Call Your Senators Now! This morning, we heard from reliable sources that amnesty advocates in the Senate are poised to renew their push to pass the DREAM Act. Our sources tell us that the DREAM Act will be offered as an amendment to the Labor, Health and Human Services Appropriations bill (H.R. 3043) on the Senate floor, most likely late TODAY or TOMORROW. We understand things to be moving so quickly that even Senate staffers do not have the text of the amendment!”
I am listening to the audiostream for the BOCS meeting. 1 minute of Ricardo Jaurez is painful. 3 Minutes is making my ears bleed.
While your listening….contact Senator Webb and Warner to vote NO to the Dream Act (see my Alert above)!
It’s Saturday morning. You’ve been mowing your lawn, and you run out of gas. So, all hot, sweaty, and dirty, you hop in the pickup to get some more. Out of your everyday routine, you’ve forgotten to bring your wallet, and driver’s license with you.
A policeman stops you for expired tags, a clear violation of the law. You show the officer the expired registration card, and a photo work ID that you keep in the glovebox. This clearly identifies you as the owner of the vehicle.
Under the current system, the officer would likely write you a ticket for not carrying your license and allow you to enjoy the rest of your weekend. Under the proposed measures, the officer would be obligated to dig a bit deeper. Consider these scenarios:
1) You are an illegal alien of Canadian descent. You speak English very well.
2) You are an American citizen, but your last name mysteriously ends in Q, just like Iraq. You also have a history of making things difficult for the local constabulary, and have a public affinity for alleged drug dealers.
3) You are a legal resident alien of Mexican descent. You’ve got a Mexican flag decal on your rear window. You speak with an accent.
4) You are an American citizen of Iranian descent. You speak with an accent.
Which of you will the officer choose for a more critical review of immigration status? Which of the legal residents will be happy to spend the rest of Saturday, and maybe Sunday, in jail?
Peter,
Were you at the last HSM meeting? If so, then you would realize your post is wrong. I believe Deane answered concerns about that at the meeting.
In my 20+ years of driving I can honestly say I’ve driven without my license maybe twice. The first thing I check before I get into my car is my back pocket to make sure I have my wallet and my license is always in my wallet.
I too am listening to the meeting via the internet and some of these people are making me ill. They should have been checking the papers of some of the speakers. Bottom line is that this county’s resources are being choked by the ILLEGALS! Those bleeding hearts that are upset for the illegals need to take them home and put them on their insurance. This is not a migration issue it is an INVASION issue!
I will be more than happy to carry my id with me…you are supposed to anyway!
What URL?
Bottom-line….illegals are NOT entitled to ANYTHING! PERIOD!
Sorry, I wasn’t at the meeting. Which insignificant traffic violations will subject drivers to more critical review? And has it been decided how the police will identify people for immigration status checks without “profiling”?
I’m not as concerned with what’s on paper as how the policy is being implemented.
I suppose one could use the “profiling” argument for any crime now can’t you?
It is easy…it is called “criminal profiling”.
Mr. Rocha is speaking now. He thinks the illegals are being targeted because of the war in Iraq.
Sorry I can’t be there. Thanks to those of you who carry the flag (the AMERICAN FLAG) and show support for what’s legal!
It is not my assertion that this policy will not involve “profiling”.
It’s Corey’s
My question is, how will he be able to do that effectively without causing significant privacy and freedom concerns for all?
Anonymous said on 16 Oct 2007 at 2:49 pm:
What URL?
http://www.pwcgov.org/bocs/audio/default.htm
Peter, a driver’s license is not proof of legal residency.
I’m pretty sure that the proposed system will consider VADL as proof, subject to certain restrictions. If not, it’s even more unwieldy. Is everyone going to have to carry a birth certificate and photo ID?
Is that how you want to live your life?
Does the resolution cover non-vehicular minor infractions like jaywalking? I ask because there is no law that says you have to possess or carry an ID.
PS: I mean for citizens. People with green cards are supposed to have them at all times under the law.
The lady from Catholic Charities is LYING!
Is anyone hearing the lady talk about the profiling in the 7/11 with the hispanic looking Asian woman? What a load of crap. Guaranteed that would have made the manassas-urinal messenger!!
I Like Ice-That’s exactly what I thought!
Some of these speakers should have spent some more time with their coaches!
When they say ‘Citizens Time’ does that mean ‘Legal Citizens?’ Should the speakers be required to provide documentation? Otherwise, this should be renamed to ‘Resident’s Time.’
Oh sure…the immigration attorney is against the resolution. I am SHOCKED (not).
“Is everyone going to have to carry a birth certificate and photo ID?”
No. A birth certificate is easily forged, anyway.
If I need proof of citizenship, which I doubt I will need except for when I start a new job, I have a passport. It does not have my address on it nor does it have my SSN. One can even use the passport number in place of an SSN for those organizations that have no business asking for your SSN.
In the scenario you described, where someone leaves their license at home, the police can check if someone has a licnese. It’s one reason why police cars are equipped with laptop computers.
slavery, racisim, xenophobia, sinful, unfair, blah blah blah
Shut up, sit down
Mark in Townes of Ashleigh
Did that guy just compare this to Rosa Parks refusing to sit at the back of the bus? Oh wait, Rosa Parks was a legal citizen, no? Nice try sir….
I loved the poem! Beat’s that 9-11 7/11 joke the pro-illegal guy told.
GET SOME GREG!
Good points Greg….
Can you imagine if they detained Ricky Ricardo!!
This is a classic example of the ignorant, uneducated, fearful masses being led by the nose by a few manipulative socialist Marxist snakes….YES…that means YOU Lyall, Steinback, Juarez (”the sweaty Mexican”), Jacinto. SHAME ON YOU! You cowards, you haven’t got the guts to go to these illegal aliens’ respective countries and mount an assault on THEIR governments for their BLATANT disregard of their own peoples’ human rights. YOU Socialists ARE PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MP Resident
“If I need proof of citizenship, which I doubt I will need except for when I start a new job, I have a passport.”
If you doubt you will need to prove your citizenship, why should everyone else?
People must purchase passports. Are you saying that acceptable ID should only be available to those who can afford it?
Do you want America to be a place where you need to carry documentation in order to pass freely?
Will the police officer who checks his computer for your drivers license choose to beleive your photo ID is not forged? Can he or she escalate the situation by asking for more proof?
48,000 American’s killed by illegal aliens since 9/11!!!
Hey Peter-Whatever it takes to secure me and my family!
In a nutshell: You didn’t close the border, you invited us.
Brother……
Peter, it’s quite easy. Exchange will probably go like this:
Peter you say your name is, who is the car registered to and what is address their address? It’s registered in your name, ok, what is your address? What’s your SSN? Do you have any warrants?
He walks back to car and verifies everything your telling him is true (he probably already knew the answers when we walked up) If everything you tell him checks out, then you will be on your way. If you make him question your motives, you get a free ride. VADL is required to be on you at all times while driving. To acquire VADL, you must be a citizen or legal resident and they do check it pretty extensively unlike say.. Maryland.
TDB:
Ditto. Whatever it takes.
as a kick i have mapping on google the address of people who are speaking, they are truly from all over the county.
These daytime meetings put legal citizens at a disadvantage. It makes it difficult or impossible for us to be heard since we actually have JOBS. Why aren’t meetings, that are of great importance, held at a time that is “fair” to everyone?
TDB do you have a government source on the 48,000 figure? Or a source on the figure you may be multiplying?
It’s on this blog somewhere. Have fun!
@4kidsnadog
Amen. That’s what burns me up. I just heard there are 2000+ Ricardo Juarez supporters there with more showing up.
That’s the rub. They’re there protesting while working schmucks like us are picking up the tab.
how can I listen to the PWC citizens comments via the internet?
Thanks
Never mind. I saw it above.
http://www.pwcgov.org/bocs/audio/default.htm
wah, wah, wah, wah
Shut up, sit down
Boo Hoo Hoo…My mom, the legal immigrant, will feel intimidated!
So, we should allow the drug runners that come here. Cuz they worked so hard to get here?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LOL
wow,
these illegal chicks are an angry group
She is illegal….she said her citizen kids…manassas dr
very smart also…
insult those who you are trying to convince to be on your side.
“Will the police officer who checks his computer for your drivers license choose to beleive your photo ID is not forged? Can he or she escalate the situation by asking for more proof?”
I don’t see why the officer would believe that the photo ID that has been presented to them is forged if their computer tells them that the person who presented that photo ID does indeed have a license, and the name checks out along with the address that person supplied.
I’m not sure how sophisticated their system is but they may even be able to pull up the photo on the driver’s license and use that to determine if you are who you say you are.
“People must purchase passports. Are you saying that acceptable ID should only be available to those who can afford it?”
People must purchase driver’s licenses and copies of their birth certificate, too.
“Do you want America to be a place where you need to carry documentation in order to pass freely?”
If you’re operating a motor vehicle you’re required to have documentation. If you want to walk, ride a bike, or ride a bus, you are not.
I’d like to remind you about the children in Appalachia!!
They were dragged here kicking and screaming!
I am sorry that your mother got raped while she was breaking the law, and crossing the border. Should we feel sorry for the thief who cuts himself and bleeds to death, while breaking into your house?
robi, you read my mind. No way is she LEGAL. Besides, Manassas Dr is in Manassas Park isn’t it? That is not PWC - the floor should only be open to PWC residents!!!
Someone now (on the pro-illegal side) is now asking for “amnesty”!!!!! JUST SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!!
The thief’s next of kin could sue the homeowner and probably win.
Thanks TDB. Didn’t think you had any source. Why? Because law enforcement doesn’t keep statistics on the legal status of offenders. Plus for that to be available, one would also have to have the stats on the citizenship or other status of all victims to make a statement about Americans and rule out all victims killed in murders committed by illegal aliens against other illegal aliens.
Despite the fact this data isn’t collected by the government, people on this blog continually post such things, never of course with a source.
If the data were being kept then these folks, who I am sure you would applaud, would not be starting their new project.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/28476.html
Although again they will need to verify the citizenship of the victims as well as the offenders. Something they don’t mention.
I don’t care about this issue at all, but I’m glad Chris Pennell spoke. She is so hot!
How about making all of the illegal aliens wait until all of the LEGAL redisdents have spoken?
Ms. Lemus, pro-illegal, just said “we need more traditional schools” I couldn’t agree more….
She couldn’t be more abbrasive, also.
“Besides, Manassas Dr is in Manassas Park isn’t it? That is not PWC”
A very small part of Manassas Drive, on the west side of 28, is not in Manassas Park. The way to know is to look at the house numbers–the original cape cods in Manassas Park have 3-digit house numbers. So anything with a 4-digit address on Manassas Drive on the west side of 28 is in the county.
The newer houses/lots in MP, including everything on the east side of 28, have a 4-digit address. There are no residential addresses on Manassas Drive on the east side of 28.
“So anything with a 4-digit address on Manassas Drive on the west side of 28 is in the county.”
Excluding the Apex Mart, that is.
Who the hell is speaking now? Esteban Wright? This guy mumbling “we ain’t going nowhere!”
many of these folks should have paid more attention in school.. especially in regards to the use of the English language
Geez…now we have to listen to the lady with the “I have a Dream…” speech!
This dame is funny! Of course she’s a citizen…they all are.
These hispanic chicks are venomous!!
wah wah wah wah wah wah wah
bye bye
Now 7/11 is racially profiling people, according to the angry busdriver. Boo Hoo, the children are moving….
Bye bye school bus driver. I’ve had a lot of friends leave my neighborhood on their own accord also.
Peter -
Nice Straw-Man argument. If the police officer is doing his job correctly, the answer is (5) all of the above. Not only is ignorance no defense of the law, but badly-formed questions deserve bad answers. If you are driving without a license (§ 46.2-300. Driving without license prohibited; penalties.) If you forget the license at home, depending on the distance, then asking the officer to accompany you to your license is not a great deal. Otherwise, take the ticket, suck it up, go to court on the appointed day (with your license!) and watch as it (will most likely be) nolle prosque’d. You may get yelled at by the judge for not having your license on you, though.
go home…no fear at home
yes you are…civil criminal
Yes, they are doing the right thing!!
Lady…when you walk down the street, carrying a “si Se Puede” sign, we think you are illegal.
Such spew
Oh, now we have a translator.
Now we have to be translated…CALL ICE NOW!!!!
cuz I don’t want to go back!
Why do some of these Latinas sound so damned militant?
respect and dignity…lol
now the non-english speaking lady is trying to sell her “prick us, do we not bleed, curse us, do we not cry…” speech.
Well, I’m going to hell and being asked to “the front line” all at the same time.
We moved out of Dale City to get away from the Hispanics, parking cars on the previously well kept lawns, throwing trash in the street, playing that damn music all night (too loud), etc. Send every damn one of them back to where ever they came from, and smuggle the libs on the same bus and get them out of here.
Oh, we’re the threatening ones….. with our votes.
Don’t Argentinian’s have blond hair and blue eyes?
LOL! The Statue of Liberty is here!
sheeze we missed the statue of liberty speaker
I’ll wager that was our Lovisa
do the legal Americans get to speak after they get home from work?
Hey, did you call the KKK? I know I didn’t but someone thinks we may have.
The chicks are angry.. the men contort logic..
of course we need more of these folks in America. Future policitians
What was the deal with the dude with the MD flag?
Whoa, we channeling Satan now? Bad audio.
How is it all of these “hard working” folks have time to show up in the middle of the day to speak?
citizenofmanassas said on 16 Oct 2007 at 5:50 pm:
How is it all of these “hard working” folks have time to show up in the middle of the day to speak?
Unfortunately, the illegals may be better organized and feel they may have more to lose than the legal residents that depend on all this to just get better on it’s own.
Part of Manassas Drive in in the county.
How annoying is Sharon Pandak? They should send her to G’tmo to torture Terror suspects, just by talking to them.
Thumper said “To acquire VADL, you must be a citizen or legal resident and they do check it pretty extensively unlike say.. Maryland.”
Well Thumper for your information it is harder to prove legal presence or to prove citizenship to DMV than you think. Have you ever had to? I was mugged in Washington, DC. My wallet was stolen along with all my ID. I went to DMV with my SSN to get my driver’s license because mine was stolen. They would not issue it. I went home and got a copy of my certified birth certificate. I was born in Washington, DC. Guess what??? They still would not issue it. They had my picture and my file in their database, my original SS card and my certificate of live birth. Not enough to prove legal presence. They would not take my car registration and would not issue my driver’s license. Hope that never happens to you or any of you who are so hell bent on having this resolution passed. It is just going to make it harder on everyone. If you look different, have an accent, etc. then you will be questioned and detained even if you are a citizen.
Will the meeting be available on video and/or audio online afterwards?
Man, I love the anti-illegal Iranian lady. Do it right she says.
Sam, what DMV were you at? Virginia? What did you do to resolve the situation? What explanation did they give you for rejecting all your documentation?
I know someone who recently was at a Virginia DMV for a license renewal with all sorts of docs, including a passport, American born, no accent, and he couldn’t renew because their computer link to DHS was down.
Sam,
This resolution will have no bearing on how easy or hard it is to get a license at DMV. It doesn’t change the DMV policy. The DMV crackdown came after 9/11 because several highjackers obtained false VA DLs here in Northern VA. Sorry about your wallet, I went through the same thing.
Does anyone have an opinon about how long this will go on? My husband is now home to stay with the kids (unlike some who think it’s an appropriate venue to take your children to). I’m wondering if it would be worthwhile for me to drive over now. Does the board go into closed session at a certain time no matter how many are signed up and haven’t spoken yet?
Not sure if the close the sign up list to speak.
It will be going on for sometime. You should be fine. They will be there late 7 or 8 pm? Maybe longer…
this lady is trip.
As one aside, while I watch the play-by-play on Channel 23, this is cool in the sense that it is democracy in action.
As another aside, I wish they’d just go ahead and vote!
Channel 23 is live right now? This isn’t taped from earlier today?
Anonymous said on 16 Oct 2007 at 6:02 pm:
“Will the meeting be available on video and/or audio online afterwards?”
You will be able to view it on comcast, they will re air it.
You will also be able to listen online as well as past meetings.
http://www.pwcgov.org/bocs/audio/default.htm
Also, The film makers on youtube at will cover this too.
http://www.youtube.com/9500Liberty
Hope this helps.
I think the statue of liberty idiot is louvisa. Sharon Pandak is on drugs
Josh,
Did you get to see your boy Ricardo sweating again?
Anonymous,
I believe what I’m watching is live.
Yes it is live
Yes, everything is live now but Comcast will replay it and it will be on the internet to listen to it later as well as past meetings.
The PWCBOS should only let legal PWC residents speak. Those are the people who vote and those are the people are who they are “suppose” represent. It is unfair to let illegals and residents from other areas to air their opinion.
4 hours later and Citizens’ Time is still going on. What a wast of time!!! The Supervisors have already made up their minds. Do any of the speakers really think they can change their Supervisor’s mind ?
This guy is number 150 on the list of 200 signed up…..it’s going to be a
long night.
redawn, will it be on the BOCs site after?
Now I know who Lafayette is.
4kidsnadog, it’s unfair to allow the people whom the resolution would most affect give their opinions?
Anonymous said on 16 Oct 2007 at 6:44 pm:
‘
redawn, will it be on the BOCs site after?’
Yes the tape it and you will be able to hear it later. You can listen to past meetings anytime.
I just wish I could WATCH it. I have Direct TV.
I have listened to many of today’s speakers on the web. I am proud to be an American. I hope that the illegals learn from the speakers, go home, imitate them, and make their own communities in their own countries better. Just like the citizens of Prince William County are doing today.
What did that Sharon Pandak have to say? I missed her non-sense. Was she spouting off the “power of 5″ BS? I told them I want to hear the “power of 8″!!
Lafayette,
By the way, did you see that comment you are hot? LOL
Was it the BIG circus outside?
Last two gents were great. I really liked the “bring it”!!
It was a sea of green shirts.
I have that song in my head ” We are the world, we are the children”
redawn,
Yes and yes. We are on way back down there@7:15. Do you want to go? I have pictures and video!
Nancy L was looking tired at about 4!
Where was John Steinbach?
I can’t go. I want to SEE the video and pictures, I am sure they are good!
The highlight of the 200+ speakers so far was a lady dressed in a Statue of Liberty costume who came to the podium. She began to speak and Steward interrupted her and asked for her name and address. She said she was Lady Liberty and her address was Manhattan, NY Harbor. He them asked her if she was a PWC resident. She said no, so she had to sit down since non PWC folks who want to speak will go last (maybe by midnight). And so it’s now 7:00 PM and it goes on … and goes no… and goes on …Theater of the Absurd, it is.
3 minutes per speaker, 20 speakers per hour, 200 people. Long night. Thanks to everyone who went from hsm.
Someone call Papa John’s for the board members.
Redawn, “I have that song in my head ” We are the world, we are the children””
The one in my head is Quiet Riot’s “We’re Not Gonna Take It”.
es_la_lay,
YES! Hah! Hah! Right now its “Round and Round” (Ratt)
Michael: “…She said she was Lady Liberty and her address was Manhattan, NY Harbor.”
ROFL! She also offered her “alter-ego” (her words) and gave her real name. Good grief!
“…Theater of the Absurd, it is.” Hopefully an exercise of futility!
I left the McCoart building at 4:15. I had arrived at 1:20 and was #110 on the list to speak. You would not believe the parking lot when I arrived - completely full surrounding the entire building. As soon as we signed in to speak, we were told to wait outside. Standing room only (outside).
At about speaker #56 they announced that they would listen to all residents of PWC before anyone else. Since I’m a resident of the City of Manassas, I knew I would thrown to the end of the list - somewhere around #200. I had to get back to Manassas by 5:00 - so I had to leave. I feel so badly for not being able to stay.
It was unbelievable…I am pretty confident that the protesters standing outside were bussed in for the meeting.
It was unbelievable….
ELL,
And her alter ego wasn’t a legal resident either. ho ho ho …to the back of the line!
I saw Miss Liberty walking around enjoying the odd looks. What a train wreck….holy smokes…..
I think this lady speaking is “ateacher”!
manassascityresident,
“It was unbelievable…I am pretty confident that the protesters standing outside were bussed in for the meeting”
When I went to the July 10th meeting. They were bussesd in.
It is shame YOU didn’t get to speak we have heard , self confessed ILLEGAL PWC residents speak.
IT is just a huge CIRCUS!
Where there empty water bottles scattered everywhere outside too?
mcr,
Maureen is still waiting to speak, and PWC residents are still signing up.
MCR,
How many people do you estimate were there (outside). I heard a couple thousand. Just curious.
Lafayette,
I don’t think so. The one who was just on was Stephanie Williams.
I believe she used to do court interpretations.
es_la_ley
Sorry, it Twisted Swister.
redawn,
The shots still and video are pretty good!
Lafayette,
Try and email them if you can.
dolph,
I only say this because someone told me today she’s ESOL teacher for the county(Adult). Could be possible. I’m on my way back down there now.
redawn,
Will do later. I’m off to get more footage and shots.-lol
redawn,
didnt get a chance to see anyone, I just got off duty and coming home to get some food and go to sleep
But I did listen to about 2 hours of the audio on my cellphone on the way home and a bit here…people were pretty passionate about what they were saying and it was awesome. the illegal alien crowd didnt make too much sense as usual. Cant believe these yahoo’s think they have rights as citizens when most are illegal..still havent figured that one out yet.
I did hear old ricky (thought it was him) and it sounded as retarded as usual.
Stephanie Williams has a quote at the bottom of the article (the last few paragraphs)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/11/AR2007091102255.html
Perhaps it is the same one……however it is a common name.
Josh,
Get a good night sleep, it may STILL be going on in the morining at this rate.
“Cant believe these yahoo’s think they have rights as citizens when most are illegal..still havent figured that one out yet”
Not mention the arrogance some have shown.
Did he just say, “we got to get through 350?” Good night, Gracie…
Wow, they just are hitting speaker #200 at 7:45. They have 350 total! This will be a looonnnnggg night!
@ Retiredwildgoose said on 16 Oct 2007 at 7:46 pm:
Yep, you beat me to it!
only murder constitues being a criminal…cheese and rice!
Watching this stuff on Channel 23, the one thing that sticks in my craw, and has always done so in the past, is that it is about legal vs. illegal. Too many folks aren’t making that distinction, but that is what it’s all about.
of course she’s a teacher
lafayette,
not the case.
sure let’s give them some money
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Spent a little over 2 hours today at McCoart today. A zoo. And I am guessing that the grassy knoll between the building and the Parkway will smell every bit of that tomorrow. Also, I would not advise anyone to walk from the building to the parking lots in back in the dark without some “legal” company. Uh, lots of legal company.
is that channel 23 on comcast?
what would happen if everyone came to America..would the earth’s axis tilt?…yes, getting tired.
this is mind numbing!!
shut up, sit down.
Let’s do the math… 150 minutes (for 150 speakers) plus new signups plus 10 seconds between speakers for another 3 hours… that’s 11:00.
her having strong morals is not the issue
a citizen that cannot speak the language of her adopted country
TDB,
yes channel 23 is on comcast.
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Just a suggestion, we need to be to be carefully about outting people we know from the blog who are speaking . Some people are very concerned about their anonymity.
my channel 23 isn’t showing the meeting
Dolph,
EXCELLENT POINT! This thread is a timeline! Thank you!
Not to pass judgment, but one lady just on 23 said she has here for 14 years… doesn’t speak English and had to speak through an interpreter.
Assimilation doesn’t seem to be an issue?
I am confused 150 min for 150 speakers? I thought they were still getting three mins? I stepped away for a minute, did they change the rules?
OMG, That kid needs a spanking…she is making devil horns behind her dad’s head. He is speaking on a serious issue and she is doing devil horns. LOL LOL
Nutball at 8:09!
case closed…no one is illegal
Good for this guy
Principi will be up (?)
My name is Jose Jimenez…
Dolph,
SEE it i so much better watching….bummer
TDB,
I know that in the Manassas, Comcast does not carry the meeting. Can only listen to it on the Internet.
I didn’t listen. I was laughing too hard at his little girl.
this now officially a circus
Ah, here comes big John. Let’s watch him get his pissed off face on while he waits his turn.
I’m listening to the internet feed
She is a terrible translator
oh, please can someone post the video of his comments here?
who me? sorry.
Uhm, did the current speaker just admit that she is illegal? Where is ICE when you need them?
Regarding Anonymous said on 16 Oct 2007 at 8:08 pm: - I am confused 150 min for 150 speakers? I thought they were still getting three mins? I stepped away for a minute, did they change the rules?
I think they did change the rules to 1 min per speaker… can anyone confirm? It was an issue when the public comments started.
So, who in the hell is stealing the ID’s, killing our citizens, trashing our neighborhoods, …
I wonder who is behind, the internet audio?
There should be an ICE rink out there
Amen to that TDB @ 8:17!
What tha?
yes they are..that should be sent back home
When they started the board overrode the chairman with a 6-2 vote to allow 3 mins still and to allow an unlimited people to speak.
OK, question. Has anyone thought to limit speakers to over 18 years old?
Sure they are human beings. Just follow the law and GET LEGAL and we’ll welcome them all. If you go leech off our emergency rooms and skip out on the bill, what do you expect us to do? Seriously. Give me a break.
re the 3 minutes
I believe Stewart was going to limit speeches to 1 minute. There was a motion to keep it at 3 minutes. A vote was taken and I believe 3 minutes won 6 to 2. It was confusing.
I smell a unanimous vote for the resolution.
Amen to that Mike @ 8:20, and how about no more of this translator nonsense, too!
Who wants to bet that when the resolution passes, the illegals riot?
Here’s Johnny~~
“So, who in the hell is stealing the ID’s, killing our citizens, trashing our neighborhoods, …”
Angry Black man
Bats:
“I smell a unanimous vote for the resolution.”
You do? I’m getting nervous!
“Who wants to bet that when the resolution passes, the illegals riot?”
I bet that you will riot when the whole thing goes against you
These are the people that make it a hispanic issue
Steinbach’s on!
Better get nervous es la ley. It won’t pass and all of you will cry
es_la_lay said on 16 Oct 2007 at 7:29 pm:
MCR,
How many people do you estimate were there (outside). I heard a couple thousand. Just curious.
I don’t know about a couple thousand - I’d say possibly just under 1,000. The bussed in protesters were all clumped together standing along the driveway-
Has anyone heard Maureen Wood yet? I can’t get channel 23.
It is not a Hispanic issue it is a problem of all your racist minds
I think it was confusing because they didn’t know how many votes they needed to pass the suspension of the rules, but it was a simple majority instead of a two thirds vote. Which is odd because under Robert’s Rules they would have needed that super majority. Robert’s Rule is the form of parliamentary procedure used here, along with the procedures. Funny the Chairman invited county, but wanted to limit their time to speak.
Actually, I may be wrong here….perhaps letting these folks stand there, and bumble through what they cannot effectively communicate to the BOCS is helping to bury them. I must say this is the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen. I may have to join HSM after seeing this circus.
The chairman just wanted to use your taxes for self promotion
Zapata: If the vote for the resolution passes, you buy me a Sam Adams. If it fails, I’ll buy you a Corona. Fair?
8:36
what are you suggesting, they let all these goofballs speak as long as they want? get a grip, there has to be some limit. Think a bit before you type
I love this Indian guy!! Go Apoo (sp?)
“I may have to join HSM after seeing this circus”
Go ahead then! For sure you will join the circus
Maureen has not spoke as of yet.
I’ll betcha they don’t vote tonight.
Racism is among students…intersting comment…being called a mexican is now bad
mcr,
I have not seen Maureen. I might have missed her but I don’t think so.
Dolph
TBD,
The red neck anouncer! You are a racist nut head
do these people understand that they created this situation? It is not racism yet.. it is about ILLEGAL aliens.. If left alone it will turn into racism and balkanism and then we will have a BIG problem
Controlled, documented, orderly…unique concepts
“I’ll betcha they don’t vote tonight.”
They just wanted an audience and all of you fools thought that your voices were the one to be heard. Get rid of all of them in November!
Es La Let, I will buy you a Guiness. I am one of thos Illegal Irish
“I bet that you will riot when the whole thing goes against you”
Zapata,
We won’t riot. We have orderly ways of dealing with our disagreements.
Rioting is counterproductive, and not how problems are solved in first-world nations.
Balkanism! You just heard the word ignorant red neck. Read books and learn. Next find the time to use “Robust”
I agree with Zapata.. get rid of all the illegals in November.. sooner if possible..lol
Hear the HATE!!!
MP Resident,
Like joinng HSM? Read a book and you will do yourself a favor
I was just thinking that since everyone was invited that they should be allowed to speak.
LMAO!!!
what number are we on?
Hear the HATE? You are funny TB (tuberculosis?)
PROVE IT!
Southside?
Last woman at 8:36PM said at the end of her talk - “Kiss my ASS”. BOS wants to strike that out of the record.
Maybe he had to poop?
NICE! IS she being escorted out?
“I was just thinking that since everyone was invited that they should be allowed to speak”
AMEN! and then no vote. Stewart got what he wanted. $31,000 buy you some ignorant people
The lady on at 8:36 actually said “kiss my ass” to the board!
The lady on at 8:36 actually said “kiss my ass” to the board!
SIN!
What business does she own?
TDB: I loved your running commentary. Too funny! Oh yes, those chicas will get in your face. Very angry.
“Read a book and you will do yourself a favor”
I’ve read many books. Any you had in mind?
She owns the one that takes cares of old ladies like yourself
and not piss in the street
Red Necks for Dummies!
“The lady on at 8:36 actually said “kiss my ass” to the board!”
Wow, obviously this one didn’t read “How to win friends and influence people”.
Ms. Kiss My Ass certainly didn’t garner any sympathy for illegal immigrants.
“Red Necks for Dummies!”
Is that the best you can come up with? I can see I’m dealing with an intellectual lightweight here.
Zapata: Es La Let [sic], I will buy you a Guiness. I am one of thos [sic] Illegal Irish.
Noted.
Who is this guy speaking?
“Ms. Kiss My Ass certainly didn’t garner any sympathy for illegal immigrants.”
Some of them sure do seem to have a HUGE entitlement complex. They think they’re owed something.
ou live in Manasass and you are an intelectual. The books you read didn’t help you to make money. Reading Carnegie (old, old book) got you friends and a miserable neighborhood.
I would laugh it turns out to be that he spent the money to get the illegals there for 31k and have ice arrest them and show that it does not cost that much money to get rid of them.
Like they do the stings of you won a prize come on down…..
But, expect to be punished when you’re caught/busted
HALF way home / done…good night. Enjoy!
8:46
now that would be way too funny
For the guy speaking HEY M. Frye
I mean yeah…Mr. Frye
I’m actually pretty happy with my neighborhood, particularly since the construction industry started slowing down and the “migrant workers” started migrating right out of here.
You’d probably be surprised how much money I make, and yes, the books I read DID help me to make that money.
Dolph,
Email me the outcome if you are still up.
And, how is being asked if you are here legal or not is a problem?
I welcome the question.
I’m not happy with the ridiculous property taxes but that’ll get fixed in 2008, if not before…the gears in the political machine in this city are running out of oil and they’re going to grind to a halt.
With no help of government…socialist
Now they’re putting the anchor babies on display
I would not be surprised if the mindset of the average illegal alien that sneaks into this country is that they’re coming to take what is rightfully theirs… or they start thinking that after hearing talk of “economic justice” and the fringe groups that support illegal aliens that tend to have Marxist leanings which support that idea.
Hence the entitlement complex. They are owed what was stolen from them by the big, bad, evil USA.
notice how level, precise, to the point most of the speakers in favor of the measure are? Many of them finish before their time is up. contrast this with the venom that comes from the mouths of the illegals and other opponents?
where’s the tissue?
Wow, the ugly certainly is coming out tonight - from both Zapata and the other side. I am against illegal immigration (enter legally…period), but comments like “I love this Indian guy!! Go Apoo (sp?)” does nothing to serve the cause of legal immigration. It turns people off to the arguments, HSM, and what this blogger is trying to do in this community.
And Zapata, there are plenty of people who legally immigrated to this country in the past few years, such as my sister-in-law, and paid an economic price for doing so. She waited until she could legally enter this country to marry my brother. She waited until she could legally work until she did so, with my brother in graduate school (a pretty poor existence), passing the time studying English.
That is how it should be done.
Shut up, sit down!
Smoke some more weed!
is the board voting to pass slavery?..lol
ALWAYS FOR THE CHILDREN!!! YOU COULD GIVE THE KIDS ONE BILLION DOLLARS AND THAT WOULDN”T BE ENOUGH!!!
“Zapata said on 16 Oct 2007 at 8:26 pm:
It is not a Hispanic issue it is a problem of all your racist minds”
Zapata, you are living in the land of OZ.
Say hello to the Tin-Man for me.
I can’t stop laughing!! This is better than any FOX show!
The chilren’s
MP Resident at 8:57 pm,
There are groups out there that think so:
http://www.mexica-movement.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO1Qqhx7xhI
Where the f is the translator?
oh..there she is
i can’t stop crying
would someone think about the childrens..lol and George Washington?..
Just once I would like to hear someone end with.. “and to my American brethren… God bless the USA and all who leaglly reside here. ” instead of something that is not understandable unless one speaks spanish
MP Resident at 8:57 pm,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO3MOVm3MkM
Loosely translated: Please deport me now.
“contrast this with the venom that comes from the mouths of the illegals and other opponents?”
They are angry and mad at their lot in life and looking for someone to blame. Right now, it’s going to be the people who want the law upheld.
Really, the people they need to blame are the politicians running the country they left to sneak into this one. The same politicians that encouraged them to leave, who run the same country whose flag they proudly emblazon the vehicles they drive.
isn’t that the idea…if you’re here illegaly you have to go…and if you love your family so much than do the right thing. If it’s worth having, then it’s worth working for!!!
9:02
If he is.. can he click his heels and go home?
Bless those six board members who voted to allow three minutes per “citizen” speaker. Stewart and Stirrup voted for one minute; the remaining six voted for three. Very productive use of time, huh?…:(
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Dulles Airport…..Great
can you imagine what is going through the supervisors minds right now
If you KNOW you are entering the US Illegally, Why are you having children knowing the RISK you are already taking by being here and facing deportation? IS that responsible? Who’s fault is that?
Cry me a River! The reason why many of these pro-illegal speakers don’t want the funding of the resolution is…….drum roll please……they are probably aiding and abetting!!!!!!!!
For the love of God
Redawn, I have seen that video and others. I am aware of the desire of some for a “reconquista”.
So, hypothetically speaking–they get their “reconquista”.
What next? What are they going to do different with that land? What are they going to do with that land that they couldn’t have done with the land they had where they came from?
My guess is that it’ll be somewhere between “nothing” and “very little” and they’ll soon be sneaking out of their self-created paradise into what’s left of the USA.
Man, is her time up!
She’ll clean your house for free
They memorize in English their addresses, but then go straight to the translator.
They need to have the vote now. I am tired of listening to the same old boohoo stories!!!!
I have five children in school and I have never used government services…lol
Actually, this is COMEDY!!!
Get the hook!!!
MP Resident at 9:12 pm,
Yep, Same question I ask and think you answer would be logical.
Who does she think pays for the school system, the tooth fairy?
The pro-illegals have really lined up the speakers!
See, this IS COMEDY!!!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
How many of those wearing the green “not with my taxes” T-shirts are legal taxpaying individuals?????
Hopefully, these board members are tuning this crap out
Well, they pay sales tax…hahah. All 5% of it, yea.
Another car for sale. Cheap
The guy with the visa that is now expiring…..he should have planned ahead! Why did he not go through the proper paperwork in advance???
Based on the posts here, it seems these people(illegals and their supporters) have the liberal line down pat. They want, want, want, and expect everyone else to pay for what they want.
I know it is common sense, but if they hate living in the “shadows” exactly why did they come here illegally? Should we have any sympathy for people that break the law? Instead of taking responsibility for their own actions, they would rather blame everyone else.
three minutes for this…and the Oscar goes to…
SOCIALISM
wah wah wah … shut up, sit down
Someone should have stopped this meeting a long time ago and addressed all those people out there and told them what the resolution really says. All they have heard is from rumor and from their ‘organizers.’
They need to hear the truth from the horses’ mouths.
If any of the supervisors do not vote for this they are just as stupid as many of the speakers who are not in favor of it. Cry me a fing river…..
Good grief will the open floor ever end??? I can’t be there has anyone fallen asleep yet?
He can’t afford a 400k house on 43k a year. He is obviously getting paid under the table.
Also, the woman that claims that illegals pay their fair share of taxes what about the people that live three or more families to a house - they aren’t paying taxes.
Anonymous said on 16 Oct 2007 at 9:22 pm,
Good point.
Earlier, the Iranian and Indian LEGAL immigrants said it best….they came here legally and that is the thing to do.
“Instead of taking responsibility for their own actions, they would rather blame everyone else.”
Isn’t part of growing up process to start accepting responsibility for your own actions? Maybe the problem here is that we need to treat these individuals like little children. If that’s how they want to act….
Who is paying for that translator?
Don’t know who this lady is, but man I LOVE her!
Spanish is an important language because it is being learned across the country???? I have heard it all now!
“He can’t afford a 400k house on 43k a year. He is obviously getting paid under the table.”
Maybe, maybe not..it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if there was a lender somewhere who gave this guy a no-doc or stated-income loan and he really was able to get a 400K loan on 43k a year.
Doesn’t mean, however, that he doesn’t bear some responsibility for being suckered into that sort of loan, particularly if he lied to the lender about his actual income.
The good news is, he can just walk away from the home, get another ITIN from the IRS, and he has a clean slate with no bad credit history.
I was there from about 7:30 to 8:30. I had to wait until my husband came home because I wasn’t going to take my young children there. I put my HSM sticker on and strolled up through the grassy knoll. It was extremely sedate. I was surprised at how sedate it was. I’m not a good judge of crowds, but there were a lot of people there. The atmosphere outside was sort of festival like in the sense that it looked like they were all just camped out at a picnic, kids running around, mom’s sitting on blankets visiting, playing cards, visiting and enjoying the cool night. People were hanging out, lounging around, lying on blankets, tons and tons of children. Some very young. It was dark when I was there and I would be very worried about all these very little kids (ages 2-5) just running around having a grand old time…I wouldn’t let my children that age frollick in such a large crowd in the dark. There was no way the parents of all these loose children knew exactly where they were at all times. I don’t know…it was just the thing I found the oddest as a mother of young children. I could not believe the very young children running around and playing in the dark immediately unattended. There were many police officers standing in groups of 3-4 every few hundred yards.
I walked around the outside for about 20 minutes soaking up the atmosphere. Then I went inside the outer area chamber area. It was very calm and controlled in there as well. Most of the folding chairs were full but it was not packed. There was plenty of wall space to lean against, a few empty chairs, the entire upper staircase railing area was basically empty. I leaned against the wall and people watched for about 10 mintues. There was a table near the door that had a constant line of people signing themselves up to speak. When I left at 8:30, people were still lining up and they were still accepting new speaker sign ups. I then thought I’d try my luck with the friendly looking officials guarding the door. They were very laid back looking but were taking their doormen job very seriously. You could only go in if you had signed up and if your name had been called. I walked up to the door and asked one of them if I could just stand outside the door and look in the window for a minute or so. He politely asked me if I had signed up to speak, had they called my name? I told him no, I just wanted to take a look inside and see what it looked like in there. He let me stand there and look through the window. I was really surprised at this because I expected him to politely turn me away from the door as they were guarding it very closely. His partner noticed me and acted as if he was going to send me on my way and he actually stopped him and told him I was just going to stand and look in the window for a minute. After a few minutes, someone came out and he asked me if I wanted to go inside. I said sure and went in and sat down for a few minutes. I was very surprised at how small the room was. What you see from the tv broadcast is basically the entire room. I spent most of my time just watching the supervisors expressions and body language. They look very tired but are making a valiant attempt to hang in there and appear interested. I felt sort of guilty for ’sneaking in with permission’ so I left after a short bit. I walked around the entire outside area about three times. Just walking amongst the crowd. It was an odd feeling. I didn’t speak to anyone and no one attempted to speak to me. I felt like everyone was watching me as I moved amongst them.
I guess I wanted to go down there to just see it for myself. I couldn’t go earlier because unlike the majority of the people there, I did not think it was an appropriate place to bring my six and three year old. By the time I got there, I couldn’t sign up and stay to speak because it looks like it will be going on until the wee hours. I am happy I went. I really thought it would be a more lively place, more vocal people pumping up their crowd. It was the antithesis of that. Many, many hundreds of people still there but they’re all just laying on blankets, standing around and not making much of a fuss.
This is a great example of democracy at work. Our democracy.
Lots of people lose their houses…and their kids don’t end up in gangs
Waitasec, is there an illegal working in a secure area of Dulles airport?
Sometimes I wonder if those 3 and 4 year old kids I see running around unsupervised at the grocery store and other public places will end up being 13 and 14 year old kids running around unsupervised, and then I wonder if that increases their chances of ending up in a gang.
And THIS IS NOT A HISPANIC ISSUE?!!! GREAT!!!
Someone may have already said this - sorry if I’m repeating.
Is the 3 minute limit per person an attempt to “filibuster” …. so there would end up being no vote?
is she saying that it is working already? they are on the run? thank you BOCS
Not because of their decision will she lose everyting, but because she gambled and lost
MP,
Maybe we should treat them like kids…. but instead of sending them to their rooms, we need to send them back to their own Countries.
I found this story from New York. I was just shocked, shocked I tell you to see who was behind this.. Just another example of these “hard working” folks.
http://www.wnbc.com/investigations/14351857/detail.html
He didn’t work today. Did he?
Anonymous,
Thank you for the report.
manassascityresident said on 16 Oct 2007 at 9:34 pm:
“Someone may have already said this - sorry if I’m repeating.
Is the 3 minute limit per person an attempt to “filibuster” …. so there would end up being no vote?”
Oh my, say it isn’t so! No one has said this yet. I will have to find out in the morning. It will be going on and on….
The three minutes was voted on 6-2 at the beginning of the meeting. Some of the supervisors agreed that since all these folks had been invited, they should have their time. Great effort on the part of the BOCS. Most of them have not left the room for more than a minute or two.
What these knuckle-heads don’t understand is if you have 10 people get up and attack the issue from 10 different angles, the BOCS may listen. If you have 100 people get up and say the exact same thing “we work hard, we just want to work, this is racist, no one is illegal”, after a while, the supervisors will quit listening, especially when the vast majority are obviously, or admittedly illegal aliens. All they are doing is proving the point: PWC is overrun with illegals, and something needs to be done.
MSF and WWC is accomplishing nothing. When the resoltuon passes, they will be dumb-struck, unable to understand why they failed, refusing to admit it was the public spectacle of protests, boycotts, workstoppages and packing the BOCS chambers that was their undoing. They go in there, call the citizens and the supervisors racists, etc. and expect them to change their minds. They protest in the streets, and average citizens see the scope of the problem. They demand things from the community, and it pisses off the citizens who are subsidizing them and their anchor-baby kids.
Also, all of these threats of “if this passes, we are going to leave”…dumbasses don’t realize that the whole point of this is to make illegals leave.
That is why I smell a unanimous vote in favor of the resolution. Barg? Maybe she votes against it, because she’s gone anyway. Others, like Nohe, will have to answer for a “no” vote. Maybe not now, but at some time in the future.
Indonesian lady that came here LEGALLY schooling those that came here illegally. Good for her!
This is a BRAVE woman!!!
Ricardo Juarez’s brother is now speaking. Alejandro.
Ricardo’s brother is speaking now.
I do not recall any latinos/hispanics supporting the resolution. However, it is interesting that a legal Iranian, Indian, and Indonesian do support the resolution. What does that tell you? Come to your own conclusions.
They’re hard working the system.
This is TRULY an exercise in democracy!!! Imagine this kind of meeting in any of the hispanics home countries…I don’t think so!!
did he say “those chairs you Jews are in?”
sorry my mistake it was “those chairs you using”
You’re going to see Kite Runner when it comes out?
Are the other supervisors awake?
Why do the hispanics/latinos that are speaking keep referring to “their people”??? I thought this was not a race thing.
9:46 sorry my fault thought he was being racist
I will be more than happy to provide my LEGAL documentation if I am stopped in my car.
Just remember if your license was issued prior to 2004, you may have to provide additional documentation.
Anonymous said on 16 Oct 2007 at 9:30 pm:
Yes, thanks for the report. It wasn’t that way earlier in the day. My gosh, you couldn’t hear yourself think because there was constant chanting. Some of us tried to figure out what they were chanting … thought maybe it was “equal pay” but really, it was too difficult to understand.
I walked with another woman to her car - neither one of us wanted to walk to and through the parking lot alone - plus it was quite a hike. Glad to hear things calmed down. And YES, the police did a great job.
Is this ward Churchill? What does a criminal look like?
Man, is this rambling…too much weed!!!
One speaker made a good point, there seems to be a problem with communication/understanding; e.g., people saying they don’t use any services, but they have 5 kids in our schools. Seems they miss a lot when they do not understand how we do things in this country and rely on the old hippies to tell them what the resolution means - that it is just racist and the police are going to pull you over and deport you because of the color of your skin. These ignorant masses actually believe that crap. Maybe that’s how things are done in Latin America, but we have a culture they don’t begin to understand.
It is called criminal profiling. This is no different than a police poster that describes a particular criminal still at large.
Do the math:
1. Rent/Mortgage payment.
2. Food
3. Insurance/Car payment.
4. Clothes
5. Cell phones
6. Sending money back to country of origin
etc.
With 5 kids…..that would be tough not to be on some sort of services.
Legal2 - I noticed the same thing with the five kids in school.
legal…that is why I am willing to show my LEGAL ID if I am ever stopped in my car. Equal application for all.
How in the world can the supervisors not vote YES????
I suspect the other Supervisors are sitting there wondering if they want four more years of this. I’m guessing that at least four of them have figured out how to put an end to it. I wouldn’t be surprised if this evening’s stunt, a Corey Stewart production, costs him a win on the immigration issue. He’s just more trouble than he’s worth.
I’m off to bed… don’t think there will be a vote this evening.
I think there needs to be some residential verification done before speaking…
This is going to go on until 3 am I fear.
Should have been some verification before the mailing as well. Those were tax dollars that invited them…
Sit down, shut up!!
I hope the hosts are not disappointed with the response.
The chilren!
Patrick Henry, dodo.
I am trying to figure out how I can become one of the disenfranchised. I could use some entitlements….
Patrick Liberty
I hope he has a point
This is civics less for us dummies.
Like Jerry Seinfeld says: ‘Who are these people?’
Patrick Liberty??? his wife was here earlier (statue of).. she was sent to the back of the line for not being a resident.
BRAVO!!!
Corey Stewart said it will be around 2am before non-residents can talk. Was he kidding?
Can anyone remember an issue this intense in PWC?
Tax lines?
sheeze.. sit down time’s up
Man, this chic is a nut…central america is middle america
I’m really getting pissed!
“It is called criminal profiling. This is no different than a police poster that describes a particular criminal still at large”
For you Patriot it is very easy. Yo said it before” One Race” is the cause of all the problems with illegal immigration.
The last time I asked you the question Greg came to rescue you. So Patriot, was your comment racist?
big rock n roll problem in PW county..
Yea… Patrick Liberty… He’s the guy they named be bell after right?
Hey Zapatita-F U
“I do not recall any latinos/hispanics supporting the resolution. However, it is interesting that a legal Iranian, Indian, and Indonesian do support the resolution. What does that tell you? Come to your own conclusions. ”
You are racist and this comment confirms it
It means we’re going to see Kite Runner.
Hey Zapatita-F U!
F U Zachary? What else? Is that all you have. Red Necks have class in this blog.
Zapata, do you search as desperately for racism coming from Hispanics as you do from white people?
My name is Jose Jimenez
ahh zapata.. welcome back..
the conversation was rising to a mature level with you gone.. thanks for bringing it back down to the “childish” level. keep up the name calling and other typical illegal alien and liberal responses.
Again? Way to go Eddy. Did you learn that at the HSM meeting?
GET OUT!!! NOW!!!!
So, no one is going to see Kite Runner? C’mon. Knock it off.
And Ed makes it very mature!
Hey Zapatita-F U!!
11 years in this country and still can’t speak English!! Acclimation —-Hah!
I am not at your home Eddy so I can stay as long as I want it.
Patriot, I’m glad you asked that question (who is paying for the
translator?) because while reading the comments, I too have been wondering about this. Most likely the translator is being
paid by the same people as the translators used in the court
rooms…we, the taxpayers! What is wrong with this picture?
This is the USA, English is our native tongue…if you can’t speak
the language, then YOU provide your translator…at your expense!!
I better F your sister Eddy boy. Oh I forgot red necks f their sisters… sorry..
I don’t know, Mr. Stewart did not seem pleased with the translator at one point. I would check with Stephanie Williams or Nancy Lyall first.
Been here since 1984 and still can speak English (not even trying)
After I F you madre
The speaker has been here since 1996 and CANNOT speak English? How’s that for assimilation ????
After I F your madre
Why doesn’t the translator translate ‘Gracias?’
It’s freakin amazing how many residents cannot speak a lick of English!
Zapata,
Let me get this right. You do not want people to make fun of illegals or hispanics, you speak out against racism. Yet, you engage in racist name calling. What does that make you? A racist.
Because they are enabled by our giving culture. This country would not be what it is if we were not. Now we realize we have been taken advantage of and want to stop it. That is not our fault and doesn’t make us bad people.
GROW UP, this is NON productive.
another person who does not speak English, three in a row… sheeze are they proving the point of the problem or what?
This is the definition of tedious.
Is it just me, or is it always the hispanics that make it about hispanics…it’s about illegal vs. illegal.
I would agree that it does not do the pro-illegal side any favors when folks have been here for over twenty years, and still cannot speak English well enough for three minutes.
Does anyone remember the TV show, Laugh In? The pro illegal speakers would have been great writers for the show (if they could write in English of course). This is so funny that I can’t go to bed.
The vote will go 7 to 1 for the resolution.
Zapata, finish up your homwork , nuke a hot pocket and off to bed son. You have a spelling test in the morning.
This is like watching a train wreck.. but I grow weary.. another non English speaker.. 4 in a row
Mike,
Of course they do. But, lets not let that little fact get in the way of their rants.
Did that one guy a minute ago say something like “vote no so I don’t have to call you Osama Stewart in the morning”? I had to hear that wrong, right?
and, Jose Jimenez… I live in goodbridge
omg.. 5 in a row.. the translator will have to be paid overtime.
Mark-That is exactly what he said
Make that 5 in a row, I think.
Speak up, translator
Shut up, sit down!!!!!
Yeah, she just gave her son’s address.
Is that their penance?
6 in a row.. this is getting scary.. think anyone is changing their vote?
I wish I could listen to the audio, but my ‘puter does not seem to agree with application it is in. I hate missing out on a good comedy program.
Ed Zachary said on 16 Oct 2007 at 10:34 pm:
Mark-That is exactly what he said
Well, that’ll help their cause.
MY head is going to explode!
LIAR
send the translator home.. then a vote can be taken becuase nobody will be able to converse.
press one for English
press two to go home.
7 in a row…lol
What are we going to do with all those empty schools? Well, I have some ideas but, in the end, it would be cheaper to shut them down than run them. She not get that?
I think we’re up to 7 or 8 in a row now?
I think that I logged on 20 minutes ago and have only heard 1 person speak w/o translator
What really chaps my A$$ is these illegals wrap themselves and wave the American flag to get the attention of the bleeding heart liberals. (Aww, look at them don’t they look cute, they just wanna have the best for there family) In reality, they don’t have a damn clue, brave Americans have faught and died for that flag and our freedom. Why the hell is an illegal even have there hands on it and using it as a political symbol. Damn Disgrace.
Can’t there be a requirement to speak the official language of government at government functions?!!
Who came up with the strategy of putting up speakers who need a translator? Somehow, for some weird reason, I think that could wind up backfiring on them. /sarc
If I keep listening to this, by 3:00am, I’ll probably be able to speak Spanish.
I getting a beer.
THIS IS A GODDAMN DISGRACE AND ABUSE OF OUR SYSTEM!!!!
Man, these three minutes seem to be getting a lot longer!!!
That’s why the country’s falling apart! I knew there was a good reason!
Did I fall asleep and wake up some where else?
What’s up with this, U.S Citizens not from PWC cannot speak but illegals who shouldn’t even be here have to right to bump there gums (Hell, not even in English)
Ed,
Of course it is. But, they and their supporters do not care.
I wish I had video of this
Just got through scanning all the comments. I don’t know who TDB is but his/her comments were the most inane writings I’ve seen, even on this blog. Your every once in a while “Shut up and sit down” , was that for comic effect, or what?
Did you really think you contributed ANYTHING worthwhile? Were you there or did your comments come from watching TV?
The two ladies afraid of walking alone through the parking lot with police galore right there! - Another wondering how the little kids were allowed to run around in the dark. We’re bringing up kids who are so scared of the dark, they don’t dare go out after sunset (I’m not talking teens, they only come alive after dark). I couldn’t get the kids on my street to come out and listen to the owls in the woods nearby.
ANONYMOUS 9:30 - Thanks for an excellent report!
As for hearings running late - When Herndon had hearings re the day laborer center in the summer of 05, the first day closed at 0030 hrs next morning and continued the next evening. Who knows, maybe your hearings are still on. Seems many of you enjoyed the show judging from the comments.
Since Hispanics are “the ones who built all of the buildings and bridges”, where did they learn those advanced commercial construction skills? I mean, they weren’t all living in Cancun and Cozumel building condos and hotels before they came here, right? Point: We taught a lot, we obviously know how to do it.
What did he say?
8 in a row.. I agree with Keokuk I’m learning spanish by immersion.. sorry make that 9
Let’s vote. How about another “Day without Immigrants” tomorrow
Hold on, I have to go mow my lawn, clean my house, and puke!
And, they get Squeaky Fromme to translate
Sorry, dude, but we did consult God. He said “you gotta go”
More bragging on how “they built this country”.
You know, from an economic standpoint, one could lay a large amount of blame on the availability of cheap labor for causing the recent housing bubble.
In a market with relatively inelastic labor supply, local markets would be required to bid against one another for that scarce resource, resulting in housing costs rising to meet the real market demand.
Now we’re left with a housing surplus.
Thanks illegals!
Does anyone in PWC speak English?
At least God loves everyone. In English or Spanish.
Think of the Children - what movie is that from?
Children of the Corn!!!
10.in a row. keep this up i’ll have to take off my shoes
The corn growing in your front yard!! Oh, that’s to feed the chickens!
yawn
ok I give up.. speak spanish, it makes more sense than the English this guy is speaking
like the bank robber looking for a better life
did that guy just admit to being an illegal? very bright.
so, because it takes too long it’s okay to cut in line
He just said being illegal wasn’t right. Problem solved.
Did he say that “we have never had the chance to be illegal?” Damn, I knew I was missing something in life.
If the housing prices drop in PWC, then maybe I can move further North and shorten my commute
Corey is incredibly hospitable
If the El Salvadorians came here to get away from their Civil War, then they are cowards. They should have stayed to fight for their country.
Why do they feel that the U.S. Government needs to drop everything just so they can expidite a way to come here. We don’t own them a damn thang, it’s not a right its a privilge
snore … does the translator translate or prompt?
Then go to Germany
Get the Hook!!!!!!!!
Bastante de todo este español
Ed Z.
Corey is very hospitable but it would be a great show if he acted more like Archie Bunker.
MY head is going to explode!
Is there anything inside?
This is turning into a filibuster!!! No one is controlling the numbers!
Did a spanish person kill all of those American people at VT????
Ok, lets blame the Asians, wait, don’t thing i seen any of them bi!chin@. LISTEN, we can’t even understand you
OMG, we’re tired of hearing Spanish and he ties it to Virginia Tech. Brilliant, I say! Brilliant!
The first people that came were not Americans. Very astute!
Ed Zachary, we should make English the “official ” language of the county. This is a three ring circus.
Keokuk, you may need a six pack to get you through this.
Good grief, now they are bringing up the VA Tech tragedy - that is LOW…..
His address is the same as the previous 15
What ever happened to Citizens? Isn’t that what it is called? Where are the citizens and why are these illegals allowed to speak to our government and intimidate the citizens who don’t speak Spanish. This should never have been allowed, this is a travesty and I for one am totally disgusted and embarrased for how our meetings are being run..I am foaming at the mouth and I want an explanation. I have sent a question to all of the Supervisors asking how a now legal resident could have any voice, let alone a non voting one. I am so mad that I am going to continue to blast our supervisors until they get some sense. Why should non Spanish speaking people who support the resolution be afraid to go there to speak. I was one of those and I resent this enormously. This has got to stop!!! GRRRR
Is ICE getting all of the addresses?
Can anyone tell me a job an American does? Because it seems only illegals work in this Country. Wow, the first people who came here were not Americans? Well slap me in the face….
Work hard and rob us blind
We don’t want to go…these are the ILLEGALS!!!
If I leave right now, I can still jon the candlelight vigil for our oppressed people here in the states, the land taken from us.
I spent 10 days in Mexico back in ‘97 as an international elections observer for their federal congressional elections. By the end of my stay, I could understand about 85 percent of the written words and about 50 percent of the spoken words. I could probably speak about 15 percent of what I needed to. Never had a Spanish lesson in my life.
It is inexcusable that someone who has been here for 10 years can’t get up and say at least a few minutes of something in English.
If you have proof of citizenship, you have nothing to fear. I will happily prove that my family came to this country in 1727 any and all times I might be asked.
Why is it always 5 kids? Something magic about the number 5?
The COPS are now racial profiling. Perfect.
Oh, it’s all about the children, and the seperation of famlies. Yet, illegals leave their children all the time in their native Nations.
I’d like to see proof that this speaker’s wife was pulled over only to check her immigration status..
I hate to admit that I came here illegally….. Never taken a penny from the County, but has five kids….
Is Ed Zachary an extension of TDB? His comments are just as inane.
Did this guy just say his wife was profiled? I call BS.
Now this guy, pays taxes, has five kids and has never taken anything from the County. Well, wonder who’s roads he drove on to get there and who’s building he is standing in?
Who said we are going to separate the family unit. Take the kids with you.
I wonder how many legal citizens had or will have the opportunity to speak vs. the illegal and illegal supporters.
FIVE kids and he takes nothing…..as said before what about public education and most likely the bill they left at the hospital when those kids were born?
give this man a prize..
Uphold the law, humm what a concept
Oh, this guy from Jamaica is right-on!!!
Word out to our fellow Jamaican legal immigrants. That makes two Jamaicans for yes now.
This guy is good. We are a great Country because we have laws….. uphold the laws… if you are for the law does not make you a racist
Manassico???????
give this guy Barg’s vote
Now, back to our regular (Spanish) programming. “Our countries welcome you”. He needs a refresher in Mexican immigration law, for one example of his error.
BUENOS NOCHES
Good night to you as well..
every human being has a right to better their life.. why not in their own country?
Are they still taking speakers? I say we FILIBUSSTER the Prince Guillermo County Supervisors!
This guy is outing his employer, lol.
I want to know which electrical contractor this guy works for. Went from 2 to 7 groups with illegal labor. No bid list, please.
How is it that they are all “hard workers” yet they come from third World Nations where it is obvious the lack of hard work seems to be the reason why these places are considered to be third World Nations.
Lets just give them everything and then all will be well.
Kind of like when I drove for six years without car insurance, always looking over my shoulder.
what does someone fear if they are here legally? has anyone explained that?
couldn’t sleep!!!!!!
After this resolution is passed (hopefully soon) we might (if were lucky) we’ll have a mass exedus on 95S tomorow morning
If they do not believe America is a fair Country anymore, why don’t they leave? Who pays their taxes at the end of the year? I thought tax day was April 15th?
If this is such a great country to them, why can’t they respect it enough to learn it’s language? This is an INSULT.
no dormir? necessitas leche tivia
Ed Zachary said on 16 Oct 2007 at 11:20 pm:
couldn’t sleep!!!!!!
Afraid the riots will start in case they pass this? Or were you having dreams in Spanish?
translation:
Ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did.
But you can’t hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty,
then isn’t this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn’t this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
Ed, having nightmares
Illegal aliens: The domino effect has started:
Raleigh — The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency on Tuesday proposed a partnership with North Carolina to help identify and deport illegal immigrants charged with crimes in the state.
Nearly 20 North Carolina law enforcement agencies have requested a partnership with ICE under the 287(g) program, in which local officers are trained and certified to enforce immigration law. No other state has submitted as many requests, officials said.
“North Carolina sheriff’s offices have demonstrated an unprecedented interest in partnering with ICE,” Julie L. Myers, the assistant secretary for ICE in the Department of Homeland Security, said in a statement. “By working together in a coordinated manner, we plan to develop a statewide alliance that is both effective and sustainable and will enhance public safety in the state.”
“Through this unique partnership with federal officials, North Carolina sheriffs can utilize the available tools to enforce our laws and help ensure that North Carolinians feel safe in their homes and communities,” said U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole, who helped bring federal agents and North Carolina sheriffs together to discuss a partnership.
“We are pleased ICE has recognized the statewide interest to help remove criminal illegal aliens, and we look forward to working with the agency to craft a feasible plan benefiting all of our communities,” said Johnston County Sheriff Steve Bizzell, who is president of the North Carolina Sheriffs’ Association.
support law breakers? Well, lets take it all the way and support bank robbers, rapists, etc. Why just limit the support to illegals? Just hold hands…. She just admitted she is an illegal. Wow, just wow…. Driving is not a right….. She really is stupid.
It’s not visions of sugar plums
that’s all he has to say
I am listening to the streaming audio of the BOCS meeting, to the citizen’s time. I am tired of hearing everyone claiming that they are being persecuted when the issue is of legality. If 12 million people went to a South American country and took their jobs, took their taxpayers’ money to help Americans, and all they heard spoken in their stores was English…how would they feel? How would they like it if we imposed our culture on them? They impose their ways on us by throwing trash around our neighborhoods, urinated in the yards, leave store carts on the sidewalks in the neighborhoods, have loud parties which we can hear from inside of our homes, use our taxes to pay for their benefits, and bring gang activity to our beautiful neighborhoods. The yards and houses look run down and our house values drop….and yet we are supposed to welcome them.
Woodbridge Dive in Manassas?
Just one child? Something wrong?
I want you…to speak ENGLISH!!! As Uncle Sam would say!!!11
do the speakers have to prove the addresses are correct? many of them seem to give the address as a question.. not sounding sure if they said the correct thing.
Oh, but you would be going home!
We’re good drivers….hahahahaha and never come home…never see the kids oh, the chilren
So go home and see your family members! Problem solved!
Ed’s not the only one having bad dreams, it seems.
ok…here come the tears
Another one who has been here for many years, yet cannot speak English well enough to speak for three minutes. Worried about not coming home once she leaves for work….. I suppose if you are on the wrong side of the law, that would make sense.
Who forced you to come here?
“I go out to work wondering if I’ll ever come home.” I have the same feeling going to 7-11.
Looks like this board really becomes active at night
I really dug the children of the corn comment, laughed extremely hard!
I really love a good comedy act, I’m wish I made the time somehow to go down to mcoart (it’s about a mile from my house) it would have been great. I probably would have been removed though from laughing too hard, the stuff I’m seeing on T.V. is just outrageous. Makes it seem like almost no one in PWC speaks english. And the translators, that is just ridiculous and I can tell the supervisors were a bit displeased at this.
lol!!
Can’t they put a STOP to this???
Well, if you came here legally, you could go back to your home country to see all those peole you miss….. and then come back here! Sheeesh! Insanity.
I lived in a foreign country for 2 years and i learned the language pretty well. How on Earth is it that someone came as a teenager and can not speak English.
Ed .. this guy had a dream also.. maybe you guys were talking to one another..
I love how they start out in English with their name and address, then IMMEDIATELY start blabbing in Spanish.
Is there an end to this abuse?
Hippie!
Hold on…
They can’t put a stop to it because Stewart sent out that mailer, asking everyone to speak. It would look bad. Let them spin their wheels. The BOCS knows who votes.
Oh, sounds like a budding law student. An arrogant one at that.
Anyone want to hear my ideas about using hippies as a dog food supplement?
Just kidding.
ok put the spanish speakers back up.. rather hear them than this bleeding heart idiot.
My computer is vomiting.
I think the BOCS know that it is not a small group anymore, they got flooded with mail.
I wish I had Comcast. Audio only is half as good.
Here comes another…get the translator ready!
wonder what’s going to happen when the non-citizens start to speak…lol
That dude claimed 7,000+ letters that were anti-resolution. Any number on the pro count?
Here for twenty two years, and still is unable to speak English. Nice show of respect.
Yo quiero taco bell
22 years, enough already, learn english
So, we should have sent another $31,000 to New Orleans?! Does this guy read the paper?
Sad. In 22 years all they can do is say their name and address. I hope they (the Spanish speakers) pay for the translator’s time.
Oh, wait…
Wow, its amazing how the Hispanic population really clings to the idea that this is about “racism”. I don’t think they really understand what is at stake here.
If we deal with this problem now as a matter of law we will avoid having it dealt with later as a matter of race.
I wish about 25 individuals of different nationalities went down to speak and each requested a translator. and when none was available they cried racism.
Mike said on 16 Oct 2007 at 11:36 pm:
Yo quiero taco bell
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Watching the Supervisors having fun with these names is entertaining!
They are getting exhausted.
what i am learning from this is that the illegal immigrants really do not understand our complicated legal system, and that taxes are paid to multiple authorities for different things.
What must the BOCS be thinking!!! Cuz, man….
once again we have been told only illegals do the hard jobs here in America. I just don’t understand how America existed before we were blessed with illegals.
“How is it that they are all “hard workers” yet they come from third World Nations where it is obvious the lack of hard work seems to be the reason why these places are considered to be third World Nations.”
There’s “working hard” and there’s “working smart”.
An example of working hard, which I actually saw:
Using a shovel to clean up dirt on a road.
An example of working smart:
Using a broom to clean up dirt on a road.
An example of working smarter than that:
Using a vacuum truck to clean up dirt on a road.
Hopefully, the BOCS is getting a good dose of the real numbers problem in this county. It scares me to death. I’m at home on parental leave with my first son born last Sunday. I can’t keep up with the 5,6,7 and more kids these folks can put out. What kind of school experience can I expect for my son?
oye vay!!
How many people today have lived at a house number that is 1300, 2000, 7000, 15000, etc.?
@ citizenofmanassas said on 16 Oct 2007 at 11:40 pm:
Awesome! Where were the illegals in 1776?
The ball of chains? huh??
“How would they like it if we imposed our culture on them? ”
They might actually like it, it might be an improvement over what they have now.
Shut up, sit down!!
Ed Zachary said on 16 Oct 2007 at 11:43 pm:
The ball of chains? huh??
Yep, when I went to school, wheels turned and balls rolled.
What’s up with the applause from outside when they give their name?
Great, this guy just admitted to being illegal. ICE!
“Oh, that’s to feed the chickens!”
For the cockfights, of course…
Mark-That’s funny
Oh, another work stoppage.
Agian, if they hate the County so much left…. it is just as easy to leave here as it was to come here… I feel stupid! LOL
scaring us away?? cheeper places to go??
sounds promising.. seeya..
Did Boston play tonight?
Illegal: “Mr Stewart, if you came into McDonalds I would not cook your meal.”
Stewart: “Good, I don’t normally eat there anyway!”
let all the rest get up and speak at the same time… it will be quicker and just as useful…
Why am I thinking that most of the stories that I am hearing tonight are lies. Two jobs, five kids, own several businesses. If I had two jobs I would not have had time to make five kids.
how come all of these folks live “in” the address as opposed to “at” the address?… ahh , here comes the fear and terror speach again.. don’t forget the childrens…
If this resolution is passed, do you think they will start a riot?
This is a travesty… another admission of being here illegally
No soup for you!!!
How brazen!! Where is ICE?????!!!! SHUT UP, SIT DOWN!!!!
ddpdrinker said on 16 Oct 2007 at 11:51 pm:
If this resolution is passed, do you think they will start a riot?
I’m well armed, if so.
midnight and almost at the end of the afternoon session. lol…
I hope so ddp would show their true colors even truer
ddpdrinker-Hopefully, not…but I’m ready!
This guy has, what the FBI calls ‘A Clue!!’
I am likeing this guy more and more..
I LOVE THIS GUY!!!!
BOOOM!!
This guy needs to run for Congress.
Oh I love this guy now!!!!!
if they won’t give this guy a hand i will .. clap..clapp…clappp
APPLAUSE from my end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, you could hear the criminals boo-ing and hissing when he left.
I hope that dude has a conceal and carry permit. Those “booos” didn’t sound friendly.
Wow! Way to go Mr. Burns. It was worth staying on and listening to all that Spanish to hear some good old common sense.
Cleveland won again
This is freakin riveting
I’m surprised the criminals could understand what he was saying enough to know to boo and hiss at him. If they can only speak Spanish…
Anyone catch his address? I want to put him on my Christmas card list.
Live long Mr. Burns. This country needs you.
now we have illegals telling us who should run the county. maybe they should just put their own up for election.
That’s bad news for Boston!
@ Mark in Townes of Ashleigh said on 16 Oct 2007 at 11:59 pm
Amen to that!
She hasn’t already seen any division…. like… in language?
The chilren!!!
@ # Anonymous said on 16 Oct 2007 at 11:59 pm:
now we have illegals telling us who should run the county. maybe they should just put their own up for election.
”
What a perfect idea….Oh, wait, don’t you have to be legal to run for political office?
Damn, if only we could find a talking puppet instead…
did they go to the bull pen for a new interpeter, damn we’re paying for another one
mi casa es su casa
What time is this expected to end?
Great, here comes the illegal alien apologist crowd.
This translator is terrible. She consistently censors off the wall comments made by self-proclaimed 25 year citizens who apparently still haven’t learned the language and other times simply translates the content wrong.
My only concern, at this point, is that we are getting seriosuly outnumbered in speakers.
I guess the guy was going to be an interpiter, wait, he needed an interperter
and you drive 35 mph in a 45mph zone in the left lane.
The translator is sympathetic
Lady, I could move my kids across town and it won’t fell like “home” for a while. Irrelevant.
“Oh, wait, don’t you have to be legal to run for political office?”
no matter.. they don’t like those laws anyway, so they’ll just ignore them.
This Milagro Castro owns 3 houses in Woodbridge I wonder who she rents to?
“no matter.. they don’t like those laws anyway, so they’ll just ignore them.”
Haha! That’s right! I forgot, we get to choose which laws we want to follow.
Talk about racist
So, all immigrants support ilegal immigrants?
I would hope my brother or sister would not steal from me.
Oh, so he’s going to vote on skin color rather than qualifications or platform. Smart….
BRAVE WOMAN!!!!!
ut ho.. sounds like she going to get the boo crowd riled up upon exit.
my kinda girl
I’m really liking her.
Well timed on the ending also!
Is that Mr. Burns wife?
Ed Zachary said on 17 Oct 2007 at 12:10 am:
I heard it as Mr. Burger or Berger… I dunno for sure.
I think he lives in a gated community.
Mark - Could have been Burger or Berger, that’s who I was talking about
It is not about security…. yes it is moral, because it upholds the rule of law. What an a$$. Is it moral to steal?
Did that last guy just say ‘taint?’
I hope I didn’t just blow his cover.
This lady must be related to my brown-skinned girlfriend. They think alike.
interesting point on reverse translating
this guy does not like the fact that he is an anglo…spoiled kid, comming out to give away all your taxpayer dollars to illegals
Are the police still around?
Absolutely! Afterall, they do the jobs we won’t or can’t do.
started out l ieing about his residence
They fight for THEIR countries?! Where? The Western Union counter at Westgate Giant?
I get a sinking feeling in my gut the PWCBOS is going to chicken out
Liar, thief, and lazy is exactly what they are!
when does this end?
Did he blame a 60% downturn in his business on the war in Iraq?
Nerds? What does this have to do with nerds?
The BOCS will not cave in after all this rediculous rhetoric.
Did he say that Prince William County is at war with another country?
I hope you are right, Ed.
Not a word about Corey Stewart using $30,000 of county money to send out politically motivated fliers?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/13/AR2007101301306.html?hpid=sec-metro
Corey Stewart couldn’t care less about Prince William County. All he wants is to build a name for himself and get into Congress.
Shut up, sit down!!1
Maureen is ON !!!!!
Matt-Shut up, sit down. That’s OLD news!!1
They want to learn English??? Has this guy listened to the many folks who have not spoken English tonight? How many admitted they have been here for many years, yet still were unable to speak English for three minutes.
Maureen is speaking now…finally. 12:29 am.
Matt,
He has every right to use that money as he likes.
Go Maureen.
snore snore snore snore
We are now in official filibuster phase!
I guess, you know, you know, I guess, you know. This idiot’s from my neighborhood. I’m ashamed
Matt,
Yes, plenty about that from the speakers of both sdes all day. Even some anti speakers thanked him for sending it.
The chilren!!!!
I drank to many beers. What is he saying?
His sister isn’t much better.
Here we go!
Another fired-up, podium pounding Latina….
Go, Matt @12:27!
“Corey Stewart couldn’t care less about Prince William County. All he wants is to build a name for himself and get into Congress.
God help us all if he does…
American Idol!
Ahh, the Statue of Liberty.
Did I just hear this guy correctly? He said he was born here? Yet, has that accent?
OH, here we go…. nobody wants to do these jobs? So, every single job in the construction field is an illegal? Of course they will take lesser pay, because they don’t pay taxes, and live in overcrowded homes where they can split the rent.
Good let them leave. And, you can leave too.
What the hell is this lady saying?
Not fair, we do not know what she is saying
WHERE THE F IS THE TRANSLATOR??!!!
I miss Sean Connaughton.
SHUT THIS BITCH UP!!!
Tase her!
(Don’t tase me, bro!)
What an idiot.
is it nut time?
This is Louvisa!
Trick or Treat!
I’m yearning for some silent lips about now…
They come out after midnight!
OMG!!1
Really, are there still police there?
Anger Management
Thanks for your service, but who exactly forced you to come here?
after midnight the freaks and nuts come out. someone tell this guy we have a volunteer army.. nobody forced him to join, but we thank him for his service. part of which was to uphold a set of laws in this nation
Thank you for your service to our Country.
the translator sounds like nancy lyall but since I’m listening cant be sure. some guy who claims to be a veteran I cannot understand a word from his mouth. I think they do require people to speak and understand english correctly in our military..I think in the 17 years I’ve been in that’s been the rule.
Exactly, how would the Military operate if soldiers were able to pick and choose what rules they wanted to follow?
The translators were provided courtesy of Mexican without Borders
It sounded like he confused Viet Nam and Iraq, or something.
did he say he was invited here? somebody ask him for his invitation.
Will the real ‘fake soldier’ please stand up? Did I hear that guy right? Did he say Americans went to Canada to avoid going to Iraq? Tell me I am not still sleepiing. I know I dozed off, but …..
Ed Zachary said on 17 Oct 2007 at 12:45 am:
The translators were provided courtesy of Mexican without Borders
Shocker!!!
ahh the kids give the kids a chance. she must have missed the other blacks that were against them.
These people pointing out the whitey Board, and then claiming racism. Wow! She’s off the hook.
Great, Now I need to worry about going to a nursing home!
The chilren!!
earned five dollars in “our” Countries?
Here we go more about the children…. race? It is the supporters of illegals who are the ones talking about race. I suppose it would be racist for hispanics to speak in favor of this resolution.
I suppose it would be funny if this lady ends up being cleaned up by a white person. Whoops, that can’t happen because of course whites don’t do those jobs.
Well, he did it legally after he did it illegally…. Is her father John Kerry?
man three minutes is getting longer and longer
wow this is amazing.
does this resolution mention race? I havent seen the text.
Please someone tell me how this resolution discriminates?
Does it treat an illegal immigrant from Ireland different than an illegal immigrant from guatemala?
In the name of Jesus Christo
Now come the ringers
did she just define racism as what they have been doing all night?
It’s not racism, stupid, it is about our LAW!!! I can’t believe these people !!!
SOCIALISM!!!
I’ve never once been to a country club.
I love how she goes into her hispanic accent and then switches it when not talking about hispanic Countries.
No, I’m not from a third World Nation, but I have a feeling if I stay here much longer, I will see it first hand.
Why are those places so poor if everyone from them are such hard workers and caring people? How can that happen to such hard working people? If they are so proud of their Culture and Nations, why do they leave it to come here for a better life?
Remember the children!
Exactly lady, right from wrong…. Illegals come here knowing that they are breaking the law.
If drug dealers cried they were doing something illegal and plying their “trade” for the good of their children, would we be voting for what they are doing to be legal?
“Does it treat an illegal immigrant from Ireland different than an illegal immigrant from guatemala?”
It does not, and that is the problem. The illegal alien from Guatemala wants special treatment.
They read off the address numbers like they do their social security numbers
This lady cleans my house? Serves my food?
They TAKE our jobs. My son’s girlfriend could not get a job in PWC because she did not speak Spanish.
Don’t know who said it, but: ‘Thou dost protest too much’
LOL! This guy is not making a good case.
Did she say if we came to her Country illegally we would be treated well? Right. Again, I have to ask if their Countries are so great, why are they here?
While I knew there were kooks in the pro-illegal crowd, this is pretty telling to listen to these folks. They have no respect for our Country, no respect for our traditions or laws. Yet, we should open our arms and embrace them as our saviors.
COM,
If you went to her country illegally your butt would be thrown in jail, never to see the light of day. Who is she kidding!
I can only pray that the supervisors are well aware of our wishes!
citizenofmanassas said on 17 Oct 2007 at 12:58 am:
Yes, she did but, we leave after our visit.
How much longer is this going to go on?
This guy was an abused kid in school!
What is this guy talking about? We value the rule of law, which makes us a great Nation.
But, they sure want the Governement to provide lots of social services….
And may the force be with you
Funny he mentioned Ron Paul, since Ron Paul is against amnesty completely and wants to protect our borders.
and grow my business
I’m not sure why Ron Paul tolerates the “truthers” but its hard to avoid judging him by his fringe following.
wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah
How is this guy in the construction business? Afterall, only illegals do those types of jobs? If they are so committed to their families, why did they come here illegally?
Why did they have an issue collecting tax refunds? Oh, that is right, they are illegal.
Another business owner who hires illegals.. I wish he would provide the name of his company since he is so proud to hire illegals.
now this construction guy defends the illegal immigrants he knowingly hires, hmmm wonder if those lower wages helped him earn more profit.
And regarding social security - I’ll live poorer if I have to, but I dont want to sacrifice this country to save social security. That really is the kind of argument, meant to indimidate that really pisses me off. I dont give a crap if I dont recieve a dime from social security. If the fed. gov’t was responsible we could fix social security without a forced population boom through illegal immgration.
I remember seeing somewhere Ron Paul saying that “truthers” and other fringe people associate with him, not the other way around. So he has distanced himself to the extent he can.
She just had three Cosmos and stopped off on her way her home.
here come some more tears
The construction dude needs reported to ICE for hiring illegals.
You can tell by their shoes
Please tell me this is a young lady. I suppose if she was raped, she would want him to be able to roam freely. Cry me a river….
More about the children…. get a grip.
now we got the Muslims?!
Good, if they’ve made up their minds, lets end it here
What the hell does a Mexican in Maryland have to do with local poltics in PWC?
Why do we need to allow someone from Germantown, Maryland, speak to our BOS?
Ha! He’s from Germantown, MD and talking about what the BOCS is doing to “our community”.
Through a translator!!!
Ed Zachary said on 17 Oct 2007 at 1:14 am:
now we got the Muslims?!
I caught that too. Is the Mosque the one over by the Holiday Inn?
Thanks for the freakin time report!
Which Holiday Inn?
Where is Corey? Where is the translator?
This guy speaks Espanol like I speak West Virginian!
Is this the Prince William County BOCS of=r the f’N mEXICAN MEETING???
“Look, I’m gonna go in there and stonewall in Spanish, just like Lady Liberty. They’ll never see it coming!”
This is becoming a circus and a mockery. They need to end it now. They’ve heard everything they could possibly hear.
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!!!
Ed Zachary said on 17 Oct 2007 at 1:19 am:
Which Holiday Inn?
234 and 66
hmmm….i’ll have to have a look see
This is gotta be an HSM guy, right? I hope so.
Hoo-ah for the Ranger!
Nice, boo the latino soldier.
Morons.
there was no PWC in 1991…isn’t that interesting…the chilren!!!!
Mark - HSM or not I Loved it
OMG..now they pay for EVERYTHING!!! no prince william county in 1991 thank you illegals for creating prince william county
Anonymous said on 17 Oct 2007 at 1:28 am:
OMG..now they pay for EVERYTHING!!! no prince william county in 1991 thank you illegals for creating prince william county
I want some checks back then!
/sarc off
Here we go with the construction reasoning. Haven’t heard that one yet.
Mr. Mortgage doesn’t know his own industry very well, does he?
How do the people outside know when to applaud for the speaker?
Will this end at 2 AM?
Where does she get those stats?
They should feel safe!
dolph said on 17 Oct 2007 at 1:34 am:
Didn’t really sound like it. Could he have longer term profits tied back to foreclosure rates for his loans?
hmmm…that talk might work with the chicks!
Yes, yes! Please vote!
More and more meetings…. Oh, that’ll fix it!
There you have it…those that showed up!!1
ok…FUND THE RESOLUTION!!!! NOW!!!!
Ed Zachary said on 17 Oct 2007 at 1:41 am:
No offense, but I hope you’re wrong. Of course, he had no real position, except for his closing.
Such a load o ‘crap!!1
Don’t need or want you to fight for me!!!
Just want to say a huge thank you to the Prince William County Board of Supervisors for voting yes to the resolution. You have great patience to listen to everyone’s point of view. I am looking forward to a sane vote to enforce the law! I’m tired of feeling like a minority in my own neighborhood. Time for change!
28 years in the U.S. and doesn’t know English. Come on!
28 years in this country and does not speak English
MJM is out. It looks like the City of Manassas gets to share our pain.
http://www.manassasjm.com/
My ex-wife, from Peru has been in this country for 35 years and STILL does not speak English.
They can speak English. They are more comfortable with Spanish and it is also to ’show us!’ Read that as IN YOUR FACE
Is citizen’s time still on, open? Task Force Royse is preparing to launch. Stand by for follow-on messages.
Ha! Seems they’ve sharpened their speech writing after the guy who would refuse to serve Stewart at McDonalds. Now they all have a hand out and would not discriminate and would help everyone. Is someone handing out speeches in front of McCoart?
Ed Zachary said on 17 Oct 2007 at 1:49 am:
My ex-wife
Key phrase maybe?
Definitely, key-phrase
LAST SPEAKER
she lives on woodbridge street…that makes 45 on woodbridge street
Man, the profound lack of respect… 8, 10, 16 years and can’t speak a lick of English?
how long till the vote?
the translator consults with the person being translated…gve me a break!!
THANK GOODNESS!
It seems that now the legal eagles are going to try to twart zoning inspectors in City of Manassas. Good grief. PW will be next.
I am totally disgusted.
THANK GOD!!!
Come on… SHIP IT, BCS!
Washington Post coverage of the circus has come to town:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/16/AR2007101600851.html?hpid=topnews
Citizens’ time is over. PTL. Although I’d rather here broken English than Marty Nohe.
This guy says it’s ok for illegaals to tell us we are doing the right thing
I have a friend who came from Germany and came here legally, and is now a U.S. Citizen. She never took an English class and yet she learned English and can speak and write it well. She didn’t speak German at home or out of her house. She melded into our country. She flys the American flag. She came legally, learned English and became an American 100%. That’s what you do when you choose to become an American…you embrace your new home legally, passionately, gratefully… I haven’t seen too much of this within the Hispanic community.
My aunt teaches in an elementary school in Dale City, and she had so many problems within her classroom. 75% or more were Hispanic children and the English speaking kids cannot excel in a classroom that has a lot of children having trouble speaking English and trying to learn within a classroom with a lot of disciplinary problems. The Hispanic children have to many times attend their own parent-teacher conference to translate for the parents. What kind of education will our children receive when the class is so divided in its ability to learn on the same level? It’s time for change!
“My ex-wife, from Peru has been in this country for 35 years and STILL does not speak English.”
Now we know why you have this hate for Hispanics Eddy. Get a shrink !
Passed….
UNANIMOUS! I’m sure Jenkins and Hilda loved voting for that!
Hey Zapatita - F U
Did anyone hear what a woman was shouting out at approx 2:20 am? I was in another room trying to listen in, but couldn’t hear what she was saying…something about children?
Thanks.
Buenes Noches
I think she said “blah, blah adios, blah blah…..”
or something like that.
Mustang,
She was telling Super. May to burn in hell. He had addressed the audience in Spanish to reassure them.
Thank you all for hanging in to let us know what happened.
The only understandable thing I could make out from what she was saying was, ‘thank you for taking the mothers away from the babies.’
She was hysterical and out of control.
Sorry for the sarcasm. I know this is a very tense time for all those who are here illegally and are faced with the possibility of having to behave and/or leave.
I am looking forward to watching what happens now.
Thanks to all of you who have spent so much time and effort to bring this so far. HSM just started in April and has been a driving force in this effort. PWC has done so much in such a short time. Congratulations.
Behave or leave sound like fair choices to me.
Thank YOU Mike, for all you do.
We should file a lawsuit against every central american country that is sending us their unwanted. Manassas is now getting sued by another damn group:
A Washington, D.C., civil rights group is suing the City of Manassas and Manassas City Public Schools, alleging that the city and school system have taken systematic measures to “target, discriminate against and evict the city’s Hispanic residents.”
The lawsuit, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Alexandria by the Equal Rights Center and eight individuals, claims city officials violated the U.S. Constitution, the Federal Fair Housing Act and federal and state civil rights laws by employing discriminatory zoning enforcement practices.
“I think that what they’ve done does not well represent this country,” Rabbi Bruce E. Kahn, executive director of the Equal Rights Center, said in a telephone interview. “I am appalled by what has happened in Manassas. I believe it is unjust. I believe that it is bigoted. I believe that the officials need to seriously apologize and try as best they can to undo the damage they have done.”
The lawsuit comes at the height of the illegal immigration debate in Prince William County, and was filed the same day the Board of County Supervisors was set to vote on a controversial plan aimed at cracking down on illegal immigration.
As a part of an investigation into methods used by city and school officials, the Washington Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs obtained documents through Freedom of Information Act requests that show inspectors “selectively and aggressively” target Hispanic households, said Isabelle M. Thabault, director of the committee’s Fair Housing Project.
The complaint alleges that from the beginning of 2005, approximately 92 percent of the homes investigated by city inspectors were Hispanic-owned or occupied.
Approximately 15 percent of the city population is Hispanic.
In some cases, Thabault said inspections were done in the middle of the night, sometimes with police present, and with inspectors using harassment and intimidation to get into the house.
“In all of the records, not one white resident was ever subjected to these kinds of [tactics],” Thabault said in a telephone interview.
Additionally, she said, the reasons for the inspections were often based on “flimsy evidence” provided through a city-run phone and e-mail hotline.
Manassas City Manager Lawrence Hughes said he has not received the complaint, but that it is related to a matter that has been under investigation for nearly two years by the Department of Justice and the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
“We remain convinced that the actions of the city were lawful,” Hughes said by telephone.
Calls made to the school superintendent’s office late Tuesday were not returned.
The eight individual plaintiffs, who are being represented by the Washington Lawyers’ Committee and the national law firm Beveridge & Diamond, P.C., are all either U.S. citizens or in the country legally, Thabault said.
Sparking the investigation into zoning enforcement practices was a decision by the Manassas City Council in December 2005 to change the definition of “family” in a way that the suit alleges prohibited extended families from living together regardless of the size of the house.
And, she said, they did that “knowing full well Hispanic families traditionally live with extended family.”
And while the zoning amendment that redefined “family” was suspended in 2006, the suit alleges that at least 23 homes, all occupied by Hispanics, were inspected while it was in effect.
The lawsuit also accuses the School Board and school system officials of giving confidential information about at least 52 students to inspectors with the zoning office without the parental consent required to release student records.
The suit claims that inspectors used the information to “target Hispanic families for harassment.”
I just got home from the meeting.(3:10am) It was interesting. J. Jenkins said he didn’t want to vote yes tonight but he said he had to, to be in the majority.
I got to take a bow, when I got boo’d after I spoke.
I just woke up to check…what is going on?
nevermind..I just got my email that is passed- Thanks Dolph
Stewart needs to pay back my tax dollars! His heart isn’t into this folks, its all how the game of politics is paid. You got what you wanted and so did he.
Water seeks its own level.
Maureen,
Thanks for hanging in there to speak. You deserved to take a bow! I admire your tenacity.
Thanks to the MAJORITY of you, for and against the resolution, for your civil discussion on this matter. As I stated at approx. 2:30 this a.m. during the “7:30 p.m. citizen’s time”, thank you BOCS for being so brave and voting to implement this resolution. Now, in Woodbridge, let’s move forward and revitalize the Route 1 corridor, get out of control growth under control and reduce our traffic congestion! Vote Chris Royse on November 6th.
What’s Ed Zachary going to do with his immense commenting talents now? Fall back into obscurity after a heady night at the computer?
I just saw a news report on Fox 5 that showed the ‘hysterical woman’ that yelled out from the back of the room at about 2:20. It was the woman in the pink sleeveless top that was acting as a translator for most of the evening.
She said, ‘Thank you for taking care of me! Thank you for leaving my children motherless and fatherless. You’re going to burn in hell Corey Stewart.’
They also showed snippets of two other people speaking (these were both people who were speaking very late, between 1 and 2 am) and they both were very anti-resolution. Those of you who were still watching, the 20-something thin, caucasian girl who said she was embarrassed to be a pwc resident. I’m so bothered by the slanted news coverage of this few minutes on channel 5. If I had not been following these events all night (all year) and I watched those clips showed and listened to their commentary, I would certainly think the citizens were against this and the Board members were animals.
This is so much like the MJM. Is it too much to ask for the news professionals to just report the news in a fair and unbiased way? All the news, not bits and pieces and conveniently leave out others that don’t fit their agenda? Wouldn’t it be refreshing to be able to listen to the news/read the newspaper and feel like you’re getting both sides of the issue?
Of course those that support law breakers see nothing wrong with the many insulting comments made by their fellow supporters at the meeting last night/earlier this morning. It seems the real agenda of those who are illegal and those that support illegals came out when the lady said to go to hell, once she realized a board member could speak spanish.
Funny how that happens, the other side thought by speaking in spanish, they could get away with something. Opps, guess not. Ha ha ha ha.
Cprofits,
Do you think maybe fox wanted to show just how silly the supporters of illegals are? Lord knows the MJM and the COMPOST will not cover it.
While I do not live in the County, I want to thank the board for standing up for the rule of law.
It was over before it started. The Post said that Marty Nohe wrote the resolution that actually passed. He has a history of brokering decisions that all of the BOCS can live with. The Citizen’s time was just for show (and what a show it was… I hung in there ’til midnight on-line).
A solution where everyone wins a bit is good Government. I think all parties (HSM, the BOCS, even MWB) won a bit last night. I hope the divisiveness can end and honest dialog can begin. Now, we will see what kind of a leader Corey Stewart really is.
hopefully, the latinos will repatriate themselves back home and dialog with their own governments…
k. o’toole-
If every state and locality would make it hard for illegal’s to live here they will go back to whence they came from. I would love to see them go back and organize themselves in their own countries and demand from their government what they are demanding from ours!
Gregg,
856 posts! For the love or our Lord and Saviour, please retain these postings. Make paper and silicon copies and lock them up. The Government’s position will be recorded for all time, but few get the raw emotion of ALL the voters like you have. Think if they would have had the “blog” during the Revolution, how many American’s would have said “well, it’s sort of alright by me to be under British rule because….” Contrast with…I’ll not bore you with the 5th grade Patriots lecture…Fmr. DEPSECDEF Wofowitz (whether you love him or hate him) is a “big time” blogger and put a lot of our tax payer dollars into a website to “capture the opinions of the citizens in a growing Democracy…”‘ in Iraq. This is important discussion.
Concerned in Woodbridge,
Kind of neat, huh? History in the making……..to be continued.
I was right! Unanimous. Do not doubt the Batson in the future!