Comments on: Heh.

By: concerned parent of this school

concerned parent of this school — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:52:35 +0000

They should investigate to see if this 22 year old had a high school girlfriend. There maybe something else to that possibility if the girl was underage and if so, nothing more then just holding hands.

By: Dave in PWC

Dave in PWC — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:39:50 +0000

I think the 22 year old in the high school was selling drugs and looking to hook up with an impressionable 16 year old. Why else would a loser like that go to high school? It’s apparent he can’t find someone his own age. What a loser he is. Hope they investigate him thoroughly and if a previous poster is right about driving without a license then maybe he can visit his friends in the lockup.

By: Anonymoustoo

Anonymoustoo — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:17:23 +0000

Lafayette, no, I’m not the Anonymous from last night. I’ve only posted once before…to warn of the danger of assuming that the “power of 8″ is necessarily a victory for you.

I’ve been a resident of PW County since 1978…three years in Lake Ridge and the rest at my present home in the Independent Hill area. I’ve noticed very little change in the WestGate area since I’ve lived in the county….nothing that I haven’t experienced with nearby rental properties. All the over-crowded, trashy houses filled with loud neighbors near me have been occupied by whites so I have little fear of Hispanics. I can see the demographic change at Manassas Mall but it doesn’t stop me from shopping there. I’m a Yankee who grew up in the South so I’ve been out of my element before. I just consider it a learning experience.

By: Vigilant1

Vigilant1 — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:51:51 +0000

Do you remember one of the first “protests” last year included a very large group of “students” from FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL.
Could it be that these 22 year old Hispanic students are put there for the sole purpose of leading these “protests.” It will be interesting if the gang task force looks into this case to see just who this “gentleman” is and what his exact purpose was.

By: Lafayette

Lafayette — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:04:50 +0000

Vigilant1,
Great screen name!! Thank you. You are indeed “an old timer”. You know the area as well as most natives I know. Your comments on Coverstone, Irongate, etc are well said. I really think WestGate/Sudley have improved since the early spring. The Zoning office came through and we were part of a “clean sweep”, as a result things are being addressed by PCE(Property Code Enforcement). However, there’s the due process for these violations that can take upto 6months befoe and significant action can be taken. This is entirely to long, but it’s based on state on laws for the due process. We need stiffer fines, laws, and enforcement of the Zoning and Building Codes!!
I remain hopeful and intent on seeing this area return to it’s once desirable quality of life! We must all these violations in. This is how actioin will happen. The county must investigate each and every call/complaint filed!

By: es_la_ley

es_la_ley — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:04:17 +0000

Oct 16th’s meeting is being replayed on Channel 23 now.

By: anonymous#121

anonymous#121 — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:42:37 +0000

edit: fraudulently

By: anonymous#121

anonymous#121 — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:41:10 +0000

The student fraudently enrolled in school to sell drugs, hang with friends, be with his girl friend, or to get free food. It certainly wasn’t to get an education. It makes you wonder how often this happens. I have suspected for years that students were in school who were far older than records indicate.

There was one from a middle eastern country who came in with his brother after 9/11 and before we started bombing Afghanistan. Both of the students recorded their birthdays as 1/1/some year. 2 years apart. Perhaps they thought they were race horses? Nasty, hateful, agressive kids these were. They had lots of money and dressed like GQ. Now what would the average person think reading this?

Schools have to take kids if they have shot records or an exemption and proof of residency. Previous school records are obtained after the student is enrolled. If that student wasn’t attending school, how do you get the records?

You are right, the feds are calling the shots on most everything except paying the damn bill.

If there is such a long waiting list for traditional school enrollment, it makes sense to me to open another one. I guess this is too simple. This is an area that is not under federal control.

By: Vigilant1

Vigilant1 — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:44:32 +0000

Vigilant1 said on 20 Oct 2007 at 1:19 pm:

Lafayette said on 20 Oct 2007 at 1:05 am:
Anon@12:21 is that the same good anon from earlier?

Make that resolution vice resulation - sorry

By: Vigilant1

Vigilant1 — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:19:46 +0000

Lafayette said on 20 Oct 2007 at 1:05 am:
Anon@12:21 is that the same good anon from earlier?

Okay, you talked me into using something other than Anon.
Maybe I didn’t clearly state what I was trying to say. I was looking to move at that time but I did not. I have lived in the same house for 27 years so I guess I can be called “an old timer.” I have seen many changes in the Manassas, Westgate and Sudley area over the past 10 years and I’m sorry to say, most not for the better. I used to say to my wife “look at all of the crime in the eastern end of PWC, and said it would not be long before it arrived in the western end.” When you build, build, build and move people of all social and economic classes into massive townhouse and single family developments crime will follow. AND IT HAS! You may recall that there were only a few places to be avoided because of it’s reputation for crime; Coverstone and IronGate. These two areas are notorious for crime and have only gotten worse. Now there are other areas one tries to avoid because of the increased crime rate - Point of Woods and the Westgate appartment areas. It is not even safe to go the Manassas mall because of the muggings that occur there and I have not shopped at the Home Depot/Walmart off of Ballsford Rd in over 5 years because of the muggings there. We drive to Warrenton if we need to go to Walmart or the Home Depot. Maybe things will change with the passage of the resulation and maybe not. I am optimistic they will. Time will tell!

By: redawn

redawn — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:10:05 +0000

One Voice & Lafayette,

CREDIBILITY is the key! The facts must be kept as facts and if one is NOT sure, always ask WHY or do some research before jumping to the assumption of a certain incident. We all must work together for the good, we will prevail if we stay active and hold our elected representatives accountable.

Thank you to all who are active and doing so.This is how things get done.

By: Lafayette

Lafayette — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:56:56 +0000

Thank you BOTH One Voice and redawn. I can’t wait to see the responses. They sure got to jumping over the staph infection the other day. As a result all 72,000 students went home with a letter, and tips for parent on it. Our government needs to be aware the citizen’s are no longer going to be sitting back. We will be on top of things. It’s our schools, our elected officials, and we pay for them both, and want representation of our true needs.

By: One Voice

One Voice — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:55:22 +0000

The more public we make this, the more action we will get. That was clear from July10th on. Publicizing letters and responses are effective. That’s why it is so critical to keep the facts facts and the supposes supposes. Credibility is one very important key to long term influence. Influence is the greatest power….. I think.

By: redawn

redawn — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:45:32 +0000

One Voice,
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
You covered it from every angle and every possible question that I can think of as well.
I hope we get a response soon and VERY soon.
Thank you again.

By: One Voice

One Voice — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:33:10 +0000

Redawn
Just sent this message off. I will post any responses I receive. These people have a huge responsiblity - my children, your child(ren) and they need to be reminded that we are not turning our children over to them, we are the primary educators, we make the decisions about what they study and as much as possible which school they attend. They are our public servants.

Ms. Rameriez, Ms. Covington and Mr. Frederick.
First of all, I can not figure out if Freedom is in the Woodbridge or Dumfries Magisterial District. It looked like Dumfries on the map, so I thought I would include both School Board Members.

I would really like to see what documentation was presented that permitted this man to be admitted to Freedom High School. This makes me wonder what else is going on unnoticed. I would really like a good explanation of what was submitted, what was questioned and how this won’t happen again. Terrorists have warned us that the schools are their target. This is the best we can do?

Mr. Frederick - I have written to you before on various subject and think that this is a good topic for you to consider during the upcoming session. The County simply must have better control over who is attending the schools. Honestly. I am not approaching this with any specific issue in mind however, MSRA, gang recruiters, drug dealers, sexual predators, shooters and terrorists all come to mind at once. This is my very first experience with a public school system after spending my educational career all in private schools. My son attended xxxxxxx from pre-school through 8th grade and is now a Junior at xxxx. The difference is remarkable. Our experience so far has been okay - but things like this will keep me up at night.

Homeland Security includes domestic terrorism. Our schools appear to be our weakest point. Stop taking risks with my child

By: redawn

redawn — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:01:05 +0000

One Voice,
I agree in starting with the documents that were presented and working backwards. The screening process should be centralized,I thought they were.
Why is it that the school documents are sealed from one school to the next? I thought transcripts of grades, behavior, etc., were always of record and then sealed when that student reached the age of 18.
I guess I have a lot to learn.

By: One Voice

One Voice — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:40:04 +0000

I would start with the traditional school concept. Why is that not the standard?

Dr. Walts has said that he wants to take the IB program to all schools from elementary to HS. This program is not only on higher level it is a motivator as well. Most children will live up to or down to whatever expectation is made of them. The instructors are also as motivated and are trained to recognize that what is an A for one is a B for another and both are rewarded equally for reaching their potential. I thought that was good news from him.

Regarding the screening process - it appears it is all site based. Maybe it needs to be centralized to at least standardize the process. I would like to examine what was submitted for that 22yr old that was admitted and work backwards from there. Without information like that, it is hard to figure out what went wrong or un-noticed.

I think this might also be a good project for Jeff Frederick. I have found him to be extremely responsive and genuinely interested in his consituents comments. He also strikes me as a Type A that would pick a problem like this apart. He would be able to tell us where to begin.

By: redawn

redawn — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:36:19 +0000

Leila,
By the way, when I said I loved the last statement in part 4, I think it showed how legal business owners, trying to do the right thing feel and are frustrated. I do understand that 2 wrongs don’t make a right, but it was good to see how others may feel with the double standard.

By: redawn

redawn — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:30:44 +0000

Leila,
Thank you for your response to the you tube finding.

As far as:

point 1. I thought about that as I was watching. I do not know Spanish, but wondered about that.

point 2: Who else would be would be allowed to post such signs?Who could we ask?

point 3: Totally agree

point 4: you make a very good point as far as being fair, consistent and credible.

Thank you.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:27:19 +0000

John Light on 20 Oct 2007 at 1:27 am:

An important fact left out is that at the time these licenses are issued (if in fact it ends up that way), a motor voter form will be included to register to vote. The Guv has a state-wide revolt starting against him including members of his own democratic party. Most DMV offices say they will refuse to issue licenses to illegals. The NY state senate is supposed to take up the matter on Monday. Watch Lou Dobb on CNN at 6:00pm. He has been reporting this for the last week and has been slamming the Guv hard.