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Sharon Pandak: All Your Illegal Alien Are Belong To Us
By Greg L | 19 October 2007 | Prince William County | 113 Comments
Sharon Pandak has apparently gone on record as having opposed the rule of law resolution proposed by Supervisor John Stirrup and unanimously passed by the Prince William Board of County Supervisors. During a debate this evening with Corey Stewart at the Prince William Committee of 100, she is reported to have said that she would have voted against it.
Not that this comes as much of a surprise, but now Sharon Pandak is now officially on record as being the illegal alien candidate. What a bobble-headed move.
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Go Sharon! You rock! Many, many of us in this county did not want this resolution. All it did was divide the people of our wonderful community. Sharon shows true leadership in standing up for everyone in this community. She shows humility and courage as well.
Furthermore, the “resolution” did nothing. I’m just waiting for you people to realize that.
What the heck was the “rule of law resolution”? When did they find time to address that issue in the midst of all that hoopla about illegal immigration?
Corey Stewart is an embarrassment to Prince William County. Sharon Pandak will make Prince William proud, bring people together, and stop tearing apart our community. Go Sharon!
I love the way Greg never tells the whole story. He cuts and pastes the stuff he wants you to see.
I am getting dizzy from all the spin
Actually Sharon never said that at all. Corey was the one that said Sharon said that and would have said that no matter what happened. Let’s be honest.
No…actually…that was her position during the Tuesday night vote. The pro-illegal group divided themselves by not standing up against illegal immigration. Why? The legal immigrants are probably aiding and abetting family members. The others are probably illegals.
The Patriot, I watched the whole damn circus Tuesday night and Sharon Pandak did not say she was against the resolution. What Pandak has said repeatedly is that she was against the way it was done.
Finally, a thread for the illegals to enjoy and to divert them from the others. Go at it! Where’s northerner & leila?
What I can’t understand is, if the resolution does nothing, why were riki juarez and friends causing such a fuss on tuesday and continue to?
Greg – With all due respect, this is just another distorted spin that you twisted to support you own dislike of Pandak and love of Stewart and everything he does or says (no matter how stupid). You weren’t even at that Committee of 100 meeting so how do you know what Sharon actually said or not? Did you try to confirm that story with Sharon? NO, you didn’t. You just spewed out what somebody else “told” you (garbage in, garbage out). In the final analysis, Stewart has done more to polarize the BOS and the County than any other Chairman. Now that he has his victory over illegal immigrants, it’s time for him to move on … time to vote for Sharon Pandak.
Have a nice weekend. (it’s suppose to rain).
I was at the Committee of 100 meeting. I went in undecided and came out a Stewart fan. He is clearly the better politician. His vision for smaller Government, ability to manage costs, and “kick ass” attitude won my vote. I’m actually not a big fan of the Immigration resolution (I’m one of those “make the Feds do what we pay them to do” folks); however, I can live with it in its final form. Overall, I believe he’s the kind of leader we need for the next four years.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention his “outing” Pandak on campaign contributions. The MJM also didn’t pick up on it. He passed out an interesting handout detailing her contributions from developers.
Craig, what you just said confirmed what I said. Thanks! I watched the show too….and I stand by my comments.
The Patriot on 19 Oct 2007 at 8:00 am:
EXACTAMENTE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/9500Liberty
Legal2…EXACTLY. If the resolution did nothing as the pandering illegal alien apologists say, WHY then the “marcha massiva”, boycott, work stoppage (ALL were utter and complete failures). WHY all the HYSTERIA since MWB begain their “strategy rallys” in late July. WHY the disgusting and embarassing hysterical woman shouting “kiss my ass” and the other woman yelling “I hope you burn in hell” at the BOCS members on Tuesday nite ? NO, the illegal alien lovers were dealt a defeat and they can’t take it, thus the predictable reaction that the resolution “does nothing”….they just need to quit their whinning and realize that the MAJORITY of PW County was HEARD on Tuesday and the the voice, concerns, and wishes of the anti-illegal alien citizens PREVAILED. BRAVO for the BOCS and the UNANIMOUS vote. Pandak and other illegal alien lovers you have LOST!
For those interested, the entire Committee of 100 debate will be on video.google.com at noon today.
Sharon Pandak’s exact words, to the best of my limited yet well-practiced recollection, were, “I would not have voted for that resolution.” It was uttered in response to a question about how she would fund it, were she elected (gag).
We need to drop this “Rule of Law” moniker. Even though it sounds nice, and expresses the spirit of the anti-illegal immigration movement, it’s too academic and tranquil to convey the immediacy of the situation and the emotions involved. It should be referred to as the, “Anti-Illegal Invasion” resolution, because what we are facing folks, is not immigration. We’re facing an invasion. We can either surrender to it, or take action to repel it. Ain’t no middle ground left.
Those that say that the resolution will have no effect are just trying to distract everyone. It will have an effect and over time, it can be made even tougher once the legal issues are looked into. It is a starting point and can be amended into even a tougher resolution over time.
Chris Core, WMAL, will have PWC PD Chief Charlie Deane as a guest from 10-11 am today (Fri, 10/19).
Sorry for my redundant last sentence.
Cory likes Chapman
Greg likes Cory
Does this mean Greg really likes Chapman
I was there also. She is definitely against the resolution that was passed cracking down on illegal aliens. The resolution is really titled the “rule of law”. You can look it up for yourself.
If you’re not for it your against it. It’s that simple folks.
If she wins the election she will work hard to have that resolution rescinded.
Pandak called it divisive and a political ploy. Of course she totally ignores the fact that this resolution came from the citizens of Westgate, Sudley and the Gainesville district.
I’ll quote from an article in today’s Wash. Po. Metro Section, page B3, Friday, October 19, 2007:
“Pandak countered that the county has delayed action on important issues so Stewart could work for a passage of a resolution that ‘means nothing’.”
Pandak said that. I heard her. Greg is actually being tame. She also blasted Stewart on mailing that flyer.
She also said her main reason for running was to defeat Corey Stewart. So, never mind about what the citizens want.
I know most of the people that came to citizen’s time on Tuesday who supported the resolution can’t stand Pandak. They know she will try to rescind the resolution.
She doesn’t want us to be divisive. She thinks the Federal government should take care of our problem. Guess what the Federal government has done NOTHING.
All you Help Save Manassas members, alert the membership and spread the word. A vote for Pandak will mean a vote for Mexicans Without Borders and the repeal and destruction of our resolution.
It’s simple a vote for Pandak means a vote for Mexicans Without Borders and Ricardo Juarez.
A vote for Corey Stewart means we will have a better Prince William County that will no longer be a sanctuary for illegal aliens, the Thugs Without Borders.
Thank you Corey Stewart for listening to us and having the courage to stand up for us and getting our resolution passed.
I’m voting for Corey Stewart.
VOTE FOR COREY STEWART
Craig,
didnt like the way it was done??? the way it was done???
In other words she never would have done it at all.
By the way, those of you who are trying to say this resolution has no teeth. You obviousley dont know this issue at all. Just the part of having the local police aggresively involved in immigration enforcement alone is a H-U-G-E step.
Remember, it was only a couple months ago that Chief Deane had his policy in place that had police officers being punished for simply asking people about thier immigration status.
WHAT A TURNAROUND.
THANK YOU JOHN STIRRUP
THANK YOU CORY STEWART
Last but not least THANK YOU JACKSON MILLER who was on this issue long before any of them. Jackson got the ICE training done in Manassas City and the regional jail last year.
…but we’re gonna wait for that funding, TC. … and wait, and wait, and wait.
Michael says…
“Stewart has done more to polarize the BOS and the County than any other Chairman.”
I suppose you’re referring to the issue of illegal aliens in our county, Michael…that being the case, I concur…and quickly add that it’s a black or white issue…you’re either with us or you’re against us.
I’m proud to say that I’m on the right side of the issue, along with Corey and obviously now, the entire BOCS.
When the county starts having educational programs to inform the public about the ethnic and illegal immigration issues we are having, are you all going to say, “That’s a waste of taxpayers’ money?” Because that’s in the resolution.
Anonymous,
When are you going to have the guts to use a name on this blog or are you fingers to tired from typing so much nonsense that you can’t put a name in at the bottom of the comment?
Maybe you are Sharon Pandak.
“I suppose you’re referring to the issue of illegal aliens in our county, Michael…that being the case, I concur…and quickly add that it’s a black or white issue…you’re either with us or you’re against us.”
Again, sounds so Karl Rovian. It’s ALL about dividing the community.
“You’re either for us or you’re against us.”
Did not a very now-unpopular president say that back in 2001?
Do you see how his policies divided our country? That’s what this issue has done for Prince William County.
We ALL want to solve the illegal immigration issue. Pandak and those who support her would go about it in a different way.
Lafayette - where’s “mom” and exactly what is “her” opinion on Pandak’s choice of attire last night?
Legal2: Let’s not stoop to discussing her attire. I just want to know who her hairdresser is. So I can put up warning signs.
“Peace said: We ALL want to solve the illegal immigration issue. Pandak and those who support her would go about it in a different way.”
Peace, you are right…..she would want to give them….drum roll please….AMNESTY!!!!
No, Peace, we don’t see how the resolution has divided PWC, unless of course you mean whether to uphold law or lawlessness. But we do see how the juarez “leadership” has “educated” his crowd by spinning what the resolution does. It became very transparent that they had been propagandized into believing they would be deported “because they are brown”, pulled over in their cars (driving with or w/o licenses) “because they are brown,” etc. etc. Juarez, Lyall & Steinbach (affectionately known as the three stooges) must be megalomaniacs who have a following of poor, uneducated, emotionally-driven, who are easily manipulated. Guess it makes the 3 stooges feel superior or something, but it is definitely a strategy of communist/socialist/marxist movement.
Advocator, I agree, her hair could be considered lethal!
Yes, Peace, it is about “dividing”: dividing the lawbreakers from the law -abiders; dividing the good ideas from the bad.
Pandak’s answer to the problem? Well, it’s about the same as her “solution” to the transportation problems: expect that those who created the problem will also solve it. So Dems are supposed to “solve” the transportation problem created by their short-sighted planning 20 and 30 years ago, and the Feds are supposed to “solve” the problem of illegal immigration created by their failure to fulfill their constitutional responsibilities.
I was born on a Friday, but it wasn’t LAST Friday!
The diviceveness in PW County has been caused by the illegal-alien appeasers who just can’t stand up for enforcing the rule of law. Illegal-aliens have broken the law….so bring them to justice. GO COREY….we need a chairman who “damns the torpedoes” and stands up for LAW and ORDER. Pandak panders and would undermine any efforts/hopes in dealing with the illegal-alien epidemic.
There you go, blaming our problems on the Democrats again, James Young.
“Peace, you are right…..she would want to give them….drum roll please….AMNESTY!!!!”
Wherever did you get that idea, Patriot? Sharon has never mentioned amnesty — you are imagining things.
Pandak recognizes there is a problem but she would work it in a more deliberate, thoughtout, less emotional way.
She WOULD, indeed, go after employers who hire illegals.
She would also work with the ENTIRE BOCS, representatives from surrounding areas and their Congressmen, state senators and delegates, concerned citizens and whomever to work with the General Assembly and Congress to gain their support and funding to solve the problem.
Corey Stewart just yells, “Help stop illegal immigration,” fires his base up by grandstanding in Congress with no one else from the BOCS, surrounding communities or Congressional delegation there except members of HSM and Gary Friendman. It’s all about emotion, people.
That’s not working to solve the problem. That’s using a megaphone. Emotions need to be put aside so that we can work the problem rationally. Had Corey Stewart done that, he wouldn’t have such a strong contender in Sharon Pandak.
Peace said on 19 Oct 2007 at 9:40 am:
- “You’re either for us or you’re against us.”
- Did not a very now-unpopular president say that back in 2001?
- Do you see how his policies divided our country? That’s what this issue has done for Prince William County.
GWB’s statement of “You’re either for us or against us” was made to the world’s nations with regard to the fight against terrorism, not as a response to domestic policy arguments. Get some context before you start spouting off quote comparisons.
By the way, GWB and freedom were both correct in their individual assertions.
Peace said on 19 Oct 2007 at 10:16 am:
-Emotions need to be put aside so that we can work the problem rationally.
What precisely do you find irrational about a legally submitting and passing a resolution that defines the probable cause to better enforce existing laws? As far as putting emotions aside, had the opponents of the resolution taken that advice they might not be licking their wounds right now.
No, “Peace,” I blamed one “problem” — transportation — on Dems, not “problems.” There are others for which Dems can be blamed, to be sure (though not all, to be sure), but I only blamed one “problem” on them here.
Try to get your facts straight before launching a smear, “Peace.”
Yes, Peace, the arrogance, insulting emotional outbursts, and complete disrespect and disregard for law and order by the illegal aliens and pro-illegal alien crowd goes along way to helping work the problem rationally. Makes mucho sense.
Peace said on 19 Oct 2007 at 10:16 am:
“She would also work with the ENTIRE BOCS, representatives from surrounding areas and their Congressmen, state senators and delegates, concerned citizens and whomever to work with the General Assembly and Congress to gain their support and funding to solve the problem.”
I like you, Peace…you’re obviously quite intelligent and up to speed on the subject matter. I must ask you, in regards to your statement above, how long do you think THAT will take?
I realize the resolution that passed UNANIMOUSLY doesn’t have a whole lot of bite to it and is certainly currently way underfunded, but it definitely does send a clear message. We, the citizens, have mobilized our local government and are at least seeing some immediate results. By doing so it sends another clear message to our Federal gov’t that it needs to wake up REAL soon.
Hey Peace:
Just how would Sharon go after employees of illegals? Tell us please! Would she enact an ordinance similar the Hazleton, PA, ordinance, that would be promptly declared unconstitutional by a Clinton appointee judge (G.Bruce Lee of the E. District would jump at that chance)? She’s just grandstanding. Doing the same thing she accuses Corey of doing. She should learn to bake cookies and stay home.
By the way just so we are all clear, the resolution that passed was Nohe’s and the others version, NOT STEWART’S OR STIRRUP’S. Btw Greg where were you last night, didn’t see you there rooting for your buddy.
Peace said on 19 Oct 2007 at 10:16 am:
“Congressmen, state senators and delegates, concerned citizens and whomever to work with the General Assembly and Congress to gain their support and funding to solve the problem.”
Peace,
I think someone has not been paying attention to the Hill or Richmond on both sides of the aisle over this past summer. Decades for that matter.
There are so many “lifers” in the Capitol that have ignored the issue for decades, and now, blatantly try to slip through amnesty piecemeal legislation against the public’s will. What can we say to them that hasn’t been heard and ignored already? I believe the Feds can help eventually, we just need to clean house first.
My feelings are that the problem has gotten so far out of hand that we may need to deal with it from both directions, bottom up and top down. Hopefully, we can meet somewhere in an equitable middle on the burden.
How many calls or faxes have you sent recently to your representatives to fight flat-out amnesty? Ever hear of NumbersUSA.com? I recommend it. Fabulous tool.
In today’s Washington Times:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/1636361960_e2a5a750f7_o.jpg
Ooh. I stirred things up today, I see. Have a great day, guys!
What was the difference in Nohe’s? I thought the main difference was the public education component?
Peace said on 19 Oct 2007 at 11:12 am:
Ooh. I stirred things up today, I see. Have a great day, guys!
You too. No reason to argue logic.
That’s because Nohe is about substance, lets say what we mean and mean what we say. The resolution itself was a good. I questions whether or not it has the ability to stand a challenge in Federal Court.
with her wardrobe (as shown in the picture above) she looks a bit like a bobble-head
Anonymous said on 19 Oct 2007 at 11:15 am:
“That’s because Nohe is about substance, lets say what we mean and mean what we say.”
I think you pretty much did that too when you said:
“NOT STEWART’S OR STIRRUP’S”
Advocator was right when Pandak stated that she wouldn’t have voted for the resolution. It was a response to the question.
By the way, Greg didn’t have to be there. I think Help Save Manassas was well represented at the debate.
Ummm there is a larger issue - Fiscal matters. The problem cannot be blamed entirely on illegals. In fact, watching the BOS sink taxes as the real estate market flew out of control is like dumping your IRA and buying clothes because your house is so valuable. The smart thing to do would have been to cap the bill during that period.
This is the long tern issue. Mr. Stewart is not a long term citizen of PWC.
Ms. Pandak is not a stellar candidate however, she will not polarize the BOS and practically force them to do things that are not fiscally sound.
At this point, my vote is going to be for stopping the insanity. If you plan a long term residency here in PWC, and you are only a one issue person, make fiscal responsibility your issue for your own sake.
The immigration thing would have passed without Stewart. Stirrup did it.
That is because on Election Day, approaching 60 percent of the voters won’t give her the opportunity to get anywhere near the chairmanship. If she couldn’t win last year with Webb winning in PWC at the top of the ticket, there’s no way she can improve on her numbers this year.
Well, we will see - I will be glad it’s over. We have finally decided that we are short term residents. Not because of any of these issues, family pretty much rules in our group!
However, gambling with a AAA bond rating, unbalanced five year plan, passing resolutions dictating programs that are 25% funded, and no quality of living improvements (parks/libraries) or more police stations (Fairfax has about 25), no increase in commercial revenues, no ecomonic growth does not bode well for PWC…..
The only thing I am for in the Chairman’s race is to stop the insanity - and bring this BOS back to focusing on PWC and it’s people. Not using everything for personal gain.
The electorate needs to drive a stake in the heart of the Bela Lugosi coif before it becomes a trend among the admiring blue hairs of the County.
Such a predictable comment regardng a female candidate.
Legal2,
I didn’t see “mom” there last night unless I missed “her”. I didn’t look to hard. I was looking to figure out some others that were there. My husband and I have our ideas on who a few posters on here were though.-lol
Advocator,
What’s wrong with that “do”?-lol
Here words made me sicker last night than when she speeks at PWCBOS. I didn’t here any of that “power of 5″ BS.
Haha Sharon. WE HEARD THE “POWER OF 8″!!!!
One Voice,
You are exactly right,predictable comment from femal candidate. You really had to be there. She was something else!!
Dilly at 11:11a,
The cartoon is outstanding!!! Many thanks.
I don’t think she’s anything special but the other one honestly scares me to death from a financial perspective. If I were long term here I would be out there starting my own Help Save PWC from fiscal destruction.
There were no minds changed at the debate. Pandak came across much better than her performance last year. I do know that there are many republicans that are going to vote for Pandak as evidenced at the event Ms. Caddigan held for her. A fair amount of money went into her coffers that day. Corey’s approach to any problem is “take no prisoners”. That works for awhile but as his opponents to individual issues began to come together, he becomes irrelevant and he is close to that now. I believe Ms. Pandak is the better choice to lead the Board because of her abilty to build consensus. And yes, I can hear the ranting of Corey’s backers, but do they know how he and Kopko tried to recruit people to run against Caddigan, did all they could to stiff Lucy Beauchamp, and Julie Lucas? Maybe they are anti-women, are you listening PWC women?
Yeah Cory’s not a big fan of Women in Politics
There is nothing I have heard Pandak say that she is upholding the Laws of our Country.
I have listen to her each time she appears at Citizens Time with her Political Badge on and she keeps repeating her rehersed speech and says nothing.
She had nerve to go after Stewart on the Mailer when she appears each Tues. with her Political Badge.
We have not heard a word from her since she left her job. So how much is she concerned about this County?
When she was County Attorney,she worked for STRICKLY the BOS. She did not work for the CITIZENS.
Two big messes she caused was the PARSONS FARM DEBACLE. THE WATER FRONT FILLING IN
Hmm, a dark day for me personally as once again I find myself in agreement with NOVAScout and now CONVA. Sorry, JY you and I will have to agree to disagree on Corey (I would add Riley but as he is a pompous ass, I’m not sorry). I am one of those “many republicans” who will not vote for Corey, sorry I just can’t cross over to the dark side and vote for Pandak. Corey who held promise as a foil to Connaughton has instead embarked on a course of self-destruction that will, if he is re-elected, drag the county down with him. He has proven to be little more than a self-aborbed twit with the attention span of a gnat. Yes, he will take the “no prisoners” approach but only so long as the spotlight is shining on him (Stirrup is not much different), often leaving behind a bloody mess with no plan, solution or cleaning crew in sight. If we allow him to continue in a leadership role the county’s fiscal position will probably be in danger.
Much as I despise the manner in which Maureen generally operates her distancing herself from the trainwreck that is the chair is not indefensible.
I will part ways in one respect and that regards Lucas and Beauchamp, both had their chances, both blew them by and large through their own actions and both are miserable candidates for the positions they sought, particularly Beauchamp. The Court House IT and accounting systems are a mess as it stands and likely would get far worse under her management.
BTW, after enduring the excruciatingly painful circus performance Tuesday, I prefered to watch football with a fine lager in hand. The debate promised little more than an opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder with people more narrow minded than my children.
Mom
Peace wrote: “Did not a very now-unpopular president say that back in 2001?” - I believe that would be the SAME President whose popularity rating is higher than that of the Democratic Controlled Congress, right?
Mom
I didn’t think you were there.
Lucy is NOT an option for Clerk of the Court! I’ve still not made up mind 100%. The debated was pretty funny watching those three. I must admit A for entertainment value.
Was that you Tuesday night “Bye Maureen”?
You’re above comments confirm your identity. Just my opinion.
Mom - you sound A LOT like Tom Kopko “both blew them by and large through their own actions”. Prove me wrong and sign your next post with your real name…you will see, I don’t hide behind anonymity.
“CONVA” and the last “Anonymous” (I find it difficult to believe that you’re MOM) when you put your names to your smears, I’ll be impressed.
As for your comments, “CONVA,” Maureen supports a Democrat. What’s new? She did the same thing to Chairman Sean in ‘99. As for “building consensus,” the question is what “consensus” will she build? A spendthrift “consensus.” That vacuous argument that someone “builds consensus” is characteristic of those Liberals who know that their true agenda won’t sell. So they dress it up as warm fuzzies and hope that they can “con” the voters again.
It’s quite clear from your comments that you’ve sipped her Kool-Aid on the notion that Corey tried to run someone against Caddigan. That is her self-serving smear, because it’s a little difficult to stir up the troops with no enemy. Back in ‘94, when my wife and I bought a house in Dumfries District, she was going around telling people and media-types that we had done so because I was going to run against her. What is ironic is that she uses the same strategy for which you condemn Corey.
As for Anonymous/[possibly pseudo-]Mom, of course, Corey’s not perfect. For one thing, he’s not me.
Nevertheless, he should be respected for taking a firm stand. As for the notion that “the county’s fiscal position will probably be in danger,” that just silly. It’s only in danger if you approve of Chairman Sean’s spending spree. I cannot believe that “Mom” would ever do so.
mom
You’re outed now. Go ahead and start signing with your name. Maureen and I’ve been ON to you for a while now. I can’t wait until she reads this. We will have many more laughs.
josh on 19 Oct 2007 at 11:18 am:
Notice any resemblance to Alfred E. Newman?
One Voice on 19 Oct 2007 at 11:58 am:
Perhaps you would rather reside in Manassas Park where they don’t have an illegal immigration problem?
John Light,
You just all out named the name. I wasn NOT about to do that. Mom knows WE know who “she” is!! She’s always so quick with the comments of appearances. I don’t why “she” didn’t say bye to me too? Maybe, it was due to my attire for Round two of the circus Tuesday night. We truly laughed upon “her” departure.
Now, where is MOM?
Advocator/Patty/anyone else in attendence last night,
Did you all hear these very words from Sharon “unity in the community”?
I almost laughed out loud.
corr to John L
I don’t KNOW why “she”(yeah right)
JY, rest assured, I am the authentic MOM and you are correct I did not approve of Chairman Sean’s (I prefer Lord Connaughton) spending spree. That having been said, Corey is little more than a mirror image, same sneaky snakeoil saleman just packaged more cheaply and less polished. As I noted, he had the opportunity to correct much of Sean’s (and the rest of the Board’s) past malfeasance, he chose otherwise.
As I have previously stated, I held my nose and pulled the lever for Sean last time as the alternative was more unpalatable. This year I am again presented with the same connundrum and thus refuse to pull it for either. I will still go to the polls and vote, my selections will merely be more sparse than most. Marshall will get my vote for although I disagree with him on some issues, on most we agree and he walks the walk in addition to talking the talk. He has yet to disappoint me on an issue where he has taken a stand. Likewise, Fitzsimmons probably will not get my vote (and neither will Colgan) as he strikes me as yet another empty-suit, blowhard wannabe who has yet to stick to an agenda consistently. Call me fussy in my old age but consistency and ethics still mean something to me.
Getting back to Corey, lets venture down a path that does not involve illegal aliens so as to avoid all the apologist drivel. Lets take a peek at something far less emotional to those here, the Silver Lake Park. Harken back to Sean’s last meetings, one of which dealt with the amendment to the Dominion Valley plan that resulted in the park proffer. Contrary to Board Rules, Lord Sean allowed the BRMC to deliver a half hour soliloquy during the applicant’s presentation. This has been a set piece from the outset and both Corey and Stirrup are as much parties to it as the Dark Lord. Situational ethics of a sort when you figure in all the rhetoric about land use, shortage of recreational space, budget issues, the public interest factor of rezonings, etc. It is but one issue where Corey and John have shown a lack of ethics that I generally attribute to John, Marty, Wally and Maureen. I haven’t got a grip on May yet and Hilda is, well frankly, nuts, so she’s excused.
Lets take a peek in another direction. Remember when Sean appointed May to the Planning Commission despite a lack of background and/or experience. The suspicion was that he was appointed to carry Sean’s water, and for a time he did. However, it didn’t take long for him to develop an independent streak that I suspect Sean later regretted. Compare that to Corey’s appointment of Gary to the PC. Although one may disagree with him, one can not argue that he had neither the experience nor the background for the job. That having been said, you can’t convince me that there was not a single deserving “Republican” candidate for the job. I suspect we have yet to see the full quid pro quo.
Lastly, even when Lord Sean was ignoring you, he had the presence to bridge his fingers back and forth or assume a pensive pose with a finger to the side of head, pretending to listen. Corey merely stands before you and stares at the sky, allowing word to pass from ear to ear without comprehension, no matter the gravity of the issue.
I could go on and on although unlike Greg I have the documentation to support a great number of issues Corey wouldn’t like divulged, but in the end I guess its a matter of picking your poison so divulging it would merely serve to embarass the county further. Any way you look at it, the next four years promise to be rough and when the time is proper I will drop a few bombs. Look at the upside, if Pandak wins and everything falls apart, it will make it that much easier to install a true conservative in the next cycle.
Mom
To “That person whose “name” rhymes with “Tom”,
By the time I got to your last paragraph, I thought you HAD dropped a few bombs (cuz there sure was a lot of stink). Instead of writing all this, you could have EASILY put a hyperlink to the PWCGOP website as it is well known that if you want to see an attack on a fellow Republican, THAT is the place to go (read “Marty Noehe”). Regardless of what you think of his voting record, the PWCGOP should NEVER attack a fellow Republican, and on their homepage no less!!!
Come one, you did not even address MY post to you - gosh, I feel slighted and kicked to the curb…people, please, stop playing the world’s smallest violins in my ears!!! You call yourself a Republican, then go about and trash about every Republican in Prince William County. Come on, Tom, er, “Mom” and step out from behind the metrosexual curtain and show us all who the savior of the Republican Party is so we can courtesy in your presence.
With all the people you are NOT voting for, I think that gives up your “right” to complain as to how the government is being run. You either put up, or shut up…do us ALL a favor.
# Anonymous said on 19 Oct 2007 at 1:31 pm:
“Notice any resemblance to Alfred E. Newman?”
Absolutely NOT. Alfred is better looking.
Mr. Light, I ignore you for many of the reasons I ignore The Patriot’s pablum. You’ve forgotten what a true Republican and more importantly a public servant stand for, primary of which is ethics. I have savage Marty for, and for those who haven’t been around long enough or have forgotten, research my pseudonmyn (Marty’s Oversize Melon).
I will continue to bash those PWC GOP members who often do not stand for the principles of the GOP (Marty, Maureen) or whose ethics can often be questionsed (Corey, Wally). I expect such behavior from the Dems, I will not accept it from mine own.
Cry me a river about bashing those who deserve it, is it really any wonder that none qualified for the job choose to run given the tenor of those currently on the board.
In truth you are part of the problem, if you can’t take being outmanuevered or gamed by the process, the sidelines should be easy to find. This isn’t a game for the meek or thin-skinned, you lost, get over it, move on.
As for the metrosexual label, rest assured I am a first degree redneck (and comfortable with that) who would stomp a mudhole in your ass if you confronted me like that.
Mom
corr:
savaged Marty before
Mom…as usual….you are RIDICULOUS!
Peace-
Go to the Newest post on here and tell us this resolution did NOTHING!
Mom, maybe the metrosexual reference refers to your gender identity problem? There seems to be some confusion. Just wondering…
“Mom” - bring it on, Ms. Metrosexual - as you are ALWAYS making comment about the way people dress, and seeing that REAL men don’t know what Chartreuse is yet you constantly seem to, I must qestion your sexuality and insist on behalf of REAL men that you turn in your Man Book in at the door.
You say that I have forgotten about ethics…maybe THAT is why I COULD NOT or EVER support Faisal Gill and why, oh twisted one, I have stated over and over “Principle before Party.”
You state that I am part of the problem because I was “out maneuvered” - gee, how is it that I(!) am part of the problem because I played by the rules??? YOU are the one who accepted a bribe from the Faisal Gill campaign and rigged the 50-worst convention to suit your nominee. IF you had been a real man and ran the convention properly and Faisal had still won, then yes, a concession would have been in order.
You are ANYTHING BUT a redneck. A redneck does NOT talk about the clothes people wear. A redneck DOES NOT lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. And most of all, a redneck would NEVER chose “Mom” (regardless of what you claim it stands for) as a psudo.
And, as far as the comment, “I am a first degree redneck (and comfortable with that) who would stomp a mudhole in your ass if you confronted me like that” - I say…
BRING IT ON, DAR’LIN!!!
The headline for this post doesn’t make any sense. Can someone please translate….
All - let me add just one comment. If, in fact, “Mom” is NOT Tom Kopko, I am putting my apologies to Tom for confusing him with “Mom” here for the entire world to see. Yes, I do have issues with Tom K. over how that convention was run, his acceptance of the bribe, etc. but have to say that if Tom is not “Mom” as most of “her” posts seem to point that way, please Tom accept my apology.
However, if “Mom” decides to reveal herself, remove her skirt and show us who she really is and it IS Tom, then I humbly retract the apology and stand by all that I wrote.
Maybe Greg should do a poll where we guess who she (yes, Mom, I will keep putting “she” until you grow a pair) is???
Legal2 - thank you for having a clue
anon said on 19 Oct 2007 at 4:37 pm:
“The headline for this post doesn’t make any sense. Can someone please translate….”
Maybe Greg uses Microsoft Office to do grammar check??? lol
My, my, my we do seem to have touched a nerve. Couple of thing JL:
1. If you paid as much attention as you claim you do, it would be obvious I could not be Kopko (particularly as I’ve taken a few shots at him in the past).
2. The hypocracy of your combined posts is amazing, you berate me for attacking PWC GOPers but have a history of doing so yourself.
3. Your ethics, principals and grasp of the rules appear situational at best. As a relatively disinterested observer of that race, it is obvious that the convention was a trainwreck, rather inevitably given the tactics and lack of finesse demonstrated by the Lucas campaign. I don’t particularly care for Gill as a candidate but like it or not, Team Lucas screwed the pooch and as a result lost. You may not like the rules but in that arena you must abide by them and the outcome. Your side lost, deal with it, nobody’s telling you to vote for Faisal but enough with the sour grapes BS. Learn the rules and better luck next time.
4. As the self ascribed arbiter of all things manly, I would suggest a little introspection as you appear to have more than a slight man-crush on or obsession with Tom. I watched CSI last night, perhaps its your tap water.
5. I’m comfortable with my redneck roots, notice I didn’t say ignorant hillbilly or intolerant white trash, there is a difference, apparently one lost on you.
BTW, no need to worry about the plumbing, grapefruits baby. As for the clothing comments, you must have missed the object lesson (not surprising) although Lafayette appears to have taken it to heart.
Mom
Anon: The headline is a reference to an Internet phenomenon from a few years back related to the poor English translation in a Japanese game. Google up “All your base are belong to us” for a complete history.
MOM = “Marty’s Oversize Melon” ???
LMAO!
“Mommy Dearest”,
You touch a nerve??? In your dreams, Sweetheart. I am sorry, Ms. Hormonial Challenged, but those Rs I have attacked ALL have ethics issues and I am NOT alone on the attacks. Methinks I am the one who did with your “attack” on my “ass” - really, you claim you are a guy yet you have a fixation on what people wear as well as my 4th Point of Contact (if you were man enough to have served in the military, which I SERIOUSLY doubt, you would know what that means). Not that there’s anything WRONG with that, of course.
As far as your “plumbing” being “grapefruits” - I would HIGHLY recommend that you go see a Dr right away, sounds like an STD. You may want to inform you boyfriend right away so he does not spread it around.
I do apologize for the delay in reply, I was coming home from work. As a “stay at home ‘Mom’”, what “work” is is that activity men and a good number of women do to bring money in to their house. Unlike welfare, which it seems you must collect since you seem to post at all hours. Maybe THAT is why you seem to attack a lot of the women on here as well as women politicians - you are jealous of the fact that they are doing a better JOB than you could dream of doing.
Open apology to Tom Kopko,
Yes, you all read it right. I have been thinking over and over about a comment that our resident transgender (”Mom”) made regarding “stomp a mudhole in your ass”. While I may disagree with Mr. Kopko on a lot of things, I have to admit that this DOES NOT sound like ANYTHING he would say. I must say that what I know of Tom, even HE is above using that type of language.
So, in all fairness, Tom, I apologize for coming to the conclusion that you and “Mom” are one in the same. I do hope that this retraction on my part is correct and “Mom” is NOT you. However, if I am proven wrong, the jabs will continue. But, after careful thought and consideration, Mom’s language sounds more of Denny Daugherty and his boosom buddies than it does of Tom K.
Regards,
John A. Light
Citadel Grad and US Army Airborne (Airborne and Air Assault) Veteran
Mommie Dearest is in denial.
Greg - have not seen my “apology” post yet and it has been over 30 minutes
[Ed note: it got caught in the mod queue. It’s been cleared.]
Turn PW Blue - you mean it has NOTHING to do with either Microsoft Grammar check or Borat???? lol
I have never met Cory, but I keep hearing many here saying that he did not work with others, look for consensus etc.. on the illegal issue. How can that be said when the vote was unanimous. Is it believed that some of the yes votes were only cast because the issue is so emotional with the electorate? If so, who then is really looking out for the interest of the residents?
The one accused of not working with others to accomplish what the voters want? Or the ones who would not have voted for this law if the “people” were not so interested in it’s passing. It seems to me that he was looking to address the issue on peoples mind, while the complainers would rather have kicked this can down the road further.
Who is going to issue the crying towels at the “victory” party for the PWCRC?
I have to back John up on this. I doubt that MOM is Tom. I haven’t had much interaction at all with MOM, so I was kind of surprised to be called a “pompous ass” by MOM. Tom and I have a cordial relationship and he appointed me to the 1st Dist. Cong. Cmte., so I would have been really surprised if he would have done that while feeling that way about me.
I just had an idea as to who MOM may be, but I don’t want to fuel speculation as was done here already.
And yes, MOM is an acronym for “Marty’s Oversized Melon” which goes back quite a ways.
Riley - I must say, though…to hang on to THAT acronym for that long, well, kind of disturbing, don’t you think? Thanks for backing me up and I feel that with your first hand knowledge, it just solidifies what I concluded. What IS sad is that the venomous “person” whoever he/she/it is CLAIMS to be a Republican. Oh well, there’s whackjobs in every party.
Riley - one more thing…GO BILLY!!!
OK. If “mom” isn’t Kopko. Let’s entertain Mr. Light’s idea of Denny Daugherty. Is this the overall wearing man?
And yes, MOM’s acronyn is well known!
Riley,
Come on, why not add a little fuel to this smoldering fire?
Who’s “MOM”?
This is just to good! MOM was I dressed properly at the BOCS meeting Tuesday when you said good bye to me? Metrosexual applies to a man, so we know that you are a man. We know you are a Republican. And we know you are intolerant of those who have a different opinion than yours. Sounds like T.K. to me.
Mom is mum…
check out all the letters to editor and such in todays potomac news…seems like they took all their pro-pandak letters and posted them the same day.
that paper is so one-sided it’s pitiful. We just cancelled our subscription because of this. It’s also cheaper to read it on the internet which is free.
The paper is pretty blatant in it’s support of this wishy-washy candidate.
If MoM is NOT TK, then unfortunately, another one just like him got through…please someone, break the flippin’ mold, NOW!!!
HA HA HA HA …….what fools.
The “resolution” voted on was NOT John Stirrup’s resolution. It was a heavily watered down version that was rewritten by MARTY NOHE.
Let us review:
1. Wally Covington asks how much illegals are costing the county
2. John Stirrup writes a “resolution” to stop Chief Dean from operating as a Sanctuary City and to deny services to all non-residents.
3. Marty Nohe writes the resolution that stops funding of 8 services and gets buy-in from Wally, Maureen, John and Hilda and it passes.
Can someone tell me just what Corey has actually accomplished? Let me help.
1. He has divided the PWCRC and now the entire community.
2. He exposed John Stirrup’s personal note to him about flying a Mexican flag in Woodbridge.
3. He endorsed a terrorist sympathizer and received over $20,000. in campaign funds and from him and his associates.
4. The cost of services the county will deny to illegals is less money than the funding needed to deny services.
5. Corey’s hand out at the C-100 Debate looks as if it was written by a 6th grader. It FAILED to mention that he has accepted just as much money from developers.
6. He forced the resolution to be voted on BEFORE the election, and immediately after it passed (thanks to Marty bringing concensus to the Board) Corey has claimed his re-election victory.
After the election folks, Corey will no longer care about Immigration, why? because thats Corey! Don’t be fooled.
GO MOM GO! Right on!
Corey Stewart will do nothing more than start a civil war! He is using all of you for political gain. At the end of the day he doesn’t give a rats ass for any of you, or a flip about Illegal aliens.
His own wife refuses to give up her Swedish citizenship to become an American citizen after 14 years of marriage and he agrees with it.
Corey may be pro life, and believes marriage is meant for a man and woman, beyond that he is a freakin liberal wacko like his best friend Gary Friedman.
Unlike you Mom, this is one conservative that WILL be voting for Pandak because Corey’s divisiveness on our BOCS will destroy the economic vitality of PW, chase away existing businesses and fail to attract new ones and as a result he will be raising MY taxes.
Remember when the PWCRC passed a resolution for no new taxes? Corey wiped his ass with the resolution, and now, I am going to wipe my ass with him on election day. When I press PANDAK on Nov. 6th listen for the flush.
6. He forced the resolution to be voted on BEFORE the election, and immediately after it passed (thanks to Marty bringing concensus to the Board) Corey has claimed his re-election victory
he already announced that he would be re-elected before the vote.
Sharon Pandak is not courageous, just arrogant. we invited her to participate in the forum we are having on Monday and she refused because Corey Stewart has an ad at the top of the blog. He paid for it, she could have and she sent her response to every paper and media in the area. I find her to be creepy. If I was a Democrat I wouldn’t vote for her after her reply to our invitation. She could have set her record straight, instead she attacked us. She is not anti illegal immigration. She could have presented her point of view and what she would do and instead she refuses and not politely to come. I found her comments shocking and I will not be voting for her, you can count on that.
Nancy,
Well shame on Sharon yet once again. Her aggorance at Thursday’s debate was as sickening always. Sharon just needs to continue on with her precious trees and open spaces, and stay away from PW politics.
Sharon, stick to your law practice, PLEASE!!!
We must remember that all voting YES, will have the right to bring this back to the floor. That is exactly what they think they will do after the election.
Mr. Jenkins said in his remarks that he was voting Yes, as he could bring it back later. If they went for a couple NO;s then the NO’s can not bring it up for reconsidering or what ever they call it.
Check out the Rules.
Course I think they are wrong in thinking the Demos will take the election.
Go Stewart, Royse, Hill , Beauchamp ,Lucas ! Lets have a sweep !
BF, I hope if they do bring it back to the floor, they will strengthen it even more. Good choices of candidates, except for Lucy “House of the Spirits” Beauchamp. Look at the book she voted our student “elite” to read next time you’re in a bookstore - bring a barf bag.
Is that the Nancy Pratt that orchestrated the “Big Gala” that fell on its butt? Just like most of the PWCRC members she prefers misguided ideology in lieu of pragmatism.
Again just to let you all know, there is another Michael on this blog. The one above is not me. I’m against illegal immigration and highly respect what Greg and other politicians have done to help us. I’m a democrat that is voting republican this year. The democrats have sold out America to aid and abet illegal foreigners and terrorists.