Comments on: November’s Edition Of “The Front Line” Available http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:56:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Michael http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36600 Michael Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:34:44 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36600 You have that right. It is your right to say whatever you want. I stand by that, just don't necessarily agree with the tone. You have that right. It is your right to say whatever you want. I stand by that, just don’t necessarily agree with the tone.

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36424 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:41:05 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36424 I stand by my statements. I stand by my statements.

]]> By: Michael http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36411 Michael Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:58:04 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36411 I rarely get into this kind of member to member crituque, but in this case I need to be specific about why. Patriot, I believe you misunderstand what I am trying to suggest. I am focused on the zeal or perhaps cynicism you convey in just one sentence "immigration advocates say Mexicans are suffering because they can’t pay medical bills or buy clothes.” Cry me a river! This is great news. Follow the money! My critique is that others who see this callous remark for the welfare of other human beings will build a negative picture of all of us here, that negates any positive progress we make in the character of the "legal" verses "illegal" debate. You can do better. I agree you are trying to report the truth as carefully as possible, and it is a great service to us all. When you forget to use some restraint on what some may interpet as cruelty, you do a dis-service to yourself, the character you portray to others, and the objective we are all trying to achieve. I try to hold myself accountable to that same higher standard. Again this is not an attack, just a request. I hope you understand. I rarely get into this kind of member to member crituque, but in this case I need to be specific about why. Patriot, I believe you misunderstand what I am trying to suggest. I am focused on the zeal or perhaps cynicism you convey in just one sentence “immigration advocates say Mexicans are suffering because they can’t pay medical bills or buy clothes.”

Cry me a river! This is great news. Follow the money!

My critique is that others who see this callous remark for the welfare of other human beings will build a negative picture of all of us here, that negates any positive progress we make in the character of the “legal” verses “illegal” debate.

You can do better. I agree you are trying to report the truth as carefully as possible, and it is a great service to us all. When you forget to use some restraint on what some may interpet as cruelty, you do a dis-service to yourself, the character you portray to others, and the objective we are all trying to achieve. I try to hold myself accountable to that same higher standard.

Again this is not an attack, just a request. I hope you understand.

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36379 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:42:39 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36379 Oh...and as far as "chilling"....I will NEVER get complacent on this most important issue! Oh…and as far as “chilling”….I will NEVER get complacent on this most important issue!

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36376 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:31:24 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36376 Michael, I have posted nothing but items I have found in actual published materials and videos (not my opinions). So I disagree with your comments and don't need you lecturing me. I will continue to expose the real information as I find it because I think it is important for people to understand the real agendas that may be hiding under cover. If you have read all of my posts...you will find that I am a supporter of sensible legal immigration and integration of all groups (via the American melting pot). Oh, by the way, I actually have hispanics in my family (legal ones that oppose illegal immigration - much along the lines of "You Don't Speak for Me"). I mentioned this a while back. If you knew me personally, you would know that I am not pc at all. I say what I have to say (in a tactful manner) and will back my statements up with references. The truth hurts sometimes, but it must be told. Michael, I have posted nothing but items I have found in actual published materials and videos (not my opinions). So I disagree with your comments and don’t need you lecturing me. I will continue to expose the real information as I find it because I think it is important for people to understand the real agendas that may be hiding under cover. If you have read all of my posts…you will find that I am a supporter of sensible legal immigration and integration of all groups (via the American melting pot). Oh, by the way, I actually have hispanics in my family (legal ones that oppose illegal immigration - much along the lines of “You Don’t Speak for Me”). I mentioned this a while back. If you knew me personally, you would know that I am not pc at all. I say what I have to say (in a tactful manner) and will back my statements up with references. The truth hurts sometimes, but it must be told.

]]> By: starryflights http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36326 starryflights Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:34:57 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36326 Very informative news letter. Great work! Advocator, thanks for posting the article. If illegal aliens do receive the low tier New York driver's licenses, I hope that they have the tracking chips in them. Most people getting the lowest tier would most likely be illegal aliens. What a great way to know where they are. ;-) Very informative news letter. Great work! Advocator, thanks for posting the article. If illegal aliens do receive the low tier New York driver’s licenses, I hope that they have the tracking chips in them. Most people getting the lowest tier would most likely be illegal aliens. What a great way to know where they are. ;-)

]]> By: Michael http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36315 Michael Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:05:42 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36315 Patriot, I'm not trying to single you out, but sometimes you need to "chill" your zeal, and think along more neutral lines. Though you are showing us one area of militant ethnic group supremacy activity to be concerned about, and we deeply appreciate seeing the truth in its raw ugliness and hatred toward America and non-ethnic group aligned Americans, you need to show a more gender, racial, religious, ethnic group balanced view of the problems and threats of such activity to Democracy and the general welfare of all "legal" people regardless of thier ethnic origin. Sometimes I think you forget that when you use ethnic group names in your comments. That goes for a lot of people here, not just Patriot. I appreciate what you are doing, but you could help us all build a better reputation in the public by carefully choosing how you represent your point of view. Please keep us informed of militant ethnic group supremacy activity, and "illegal" activity, but report it please with more ethnic neutral emotion. It will go a lot further to convince everyone we are seriously impartial and concerned only about the impact of "illegal" activity on our general welfare, security, financial security and national security (even the continuance of Democracy if such group aligned Facism of these ethnic groups continues). These issues need to be understood as damaging and destructive regardless of the gender, racial, religious, ethnic group breaking such laws. Patriot, I’m not trying to single you out, but sometimes you need to “chill” your zeal, and think along more neutral lines. Though you are showing us one area of militant ethnic group supremacy activity to be concerned about, and we deeply appreciate seeing the truth in its raw ugliness and hatred toward America and non-ethnic group aligned Americans, you need to show a more gender, racial, religious, ethnic group balanced view of the problems and threats of such activity to Democracy and the general welfare of all “legal” people regardless of thier ethnic origin. Sometimes I think you forget that when you use ethnic group names in your comments. That goes for a lot of people here, not just Patriot. I appreciate what you are doing, but you could help us all build a better reputation in the public by carefully choosing how you represent your point of view.

Please keep us informed of militant ethnic group supremacy activity, and “illegal” activity, but report it please with more ethnic neutral emotion. It will go a lot further to convince everyone we are seriously impartial and concerned only about the impact of “illegal” activity on our general welfare, security, financial security and national security (even the continuance of Democracy if such group aligned Facism of these ethnic groups continues). These issues need to be understood as damaging and destructive regardless of the gender, racial, religious, ethnic group breaking such laws.

]]> By: Michael http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36313 Michael Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:51:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36313 The fact that they are "hispanic" voters and not racial, gender, religious, ethnic group "neutral" American voters should concern the entire nation deeply. When an ethnic group starts to vote along ethnic group lines, they create a facist state. If we do not make ethnic group aligned political advocacy "illegal" in the near future, we will all end up under a facist political regime. When it is an "illegal" voting ethnic group, we should be even more concerned as the criminal element has now entered and affected the voting outcome and created the selection of an ethnic group supremacy leader by criminal means. Wake up America! The fact that they are “hispanic” voters and not racial, gender, religious, ethnic group “neutral” American voters should concern the entire nation deeply. When an ethnic group starts to vote along ethnic group lines, they create a facist state. If we do not make ethnic group aligned political advocacy “illegal” in the near future, we will all end up under a facist political regime. When it is an “illegal” voting ethnic group, we should be even more concerned as the criminal element has now entered and affected the voting outcome and created the selection of an ethnic group supremacy leader by criminal means.

Wake up America!

]]> By: Legal2 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36272 Legal2 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:04:45 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36272 Are there that many sick & naked mexicans? Really! Let's see who is really "suffering" with less $$ rolling in. Are there that many sick & naked mexicans? Really! Let’s see who is really “suffering” with less $$ rolling in.

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36270 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:00:03 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36270 http://www.alipac.us/article2681.html "Increased border security and work enforcement have led to a huge decrease in the billions of dollars that illegal immigrants in the U.S. send to Mexico annually and immigration advocates say Mexicans are suffering because they can’t pay medical bills or buy clothes." Cry me a river! This is great news. Follow the money! http://www.alipac.us/article2681.html
“Increased border security and work enforcement have led to a huge decrease in the billions of dollars that illegal immigrants in the U.S. send to Mexico annually and immigration advocates say Mexicans are suffering because they can’t pay medical bills or buy clothes.”

Cry me a river! This is great news. Follow the money!

]]> By: Beck http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36264 Beck Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:44:24 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36264 The WSJ was a firm advocate of the Grand Bargain. In editorials, it has repeatedly warned that the Republican party will not recover from the coming backlash from Hispanic voters. The WSJ was purchased by Rupert Murdoch this summer. Maybe he is providing some insight to his reporters. Reporter June Kronholz needs a little more. Advocator is correct that today's article is noteworthy by acknowledging the political risk of the illegal immigration issue. Such an article would not have appeared in the WSJ this summer. The WSJ was a firm advocate of the Grand Bargain. In editorials, it has repeatedly warned that the Republican party will not recover from the coming backlash from Hispanic voters.

The WSJ was purchased by Rupert Murdoch this summer. Maybe he is providing some insight to his reporters. Reporter June Kronholz needs a little more.

Advocator is correct that today’s article is noteworthy by acknowledging the political risk of the illegal immigration issue. Such an article would not have appeared in the WSJ this summer.

]]> By: Advocator http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36239 Advocator Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:40:33 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36239 Hmmm...: The WSJ has been pro illegal immigration and pro amnesty for quite some time because of the short term benefits large business obtains from their presence. The fact that it is now acknowledging the risk politicians take by not coming out against illegal immigration is noteworthy in and of itself. We've changed the political landscape and altered the national agenda by bringing this issue up. Hmmm…:

The WSJ has been pro illegal immigration and pro amnesty for quite some time because of the short term benefits large business obtains from their presence. The fact that it is now acknowledging the risk politicians take by not coming out against illegal immigration is noteworthy in and of itself. We’ve changed the political landscape and altered the national agenda by bringing this issue up.

]]> By: Hmmm... http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36236 Hmmm... Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:34:24 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36236 Not sure I would lump the Wall Street Journal in with the "liberal media." The WSJ's editorial content tends to skew conservative. If there is any slant to the reporting, it would be in the direction of pro-big business and policies that benefit business... Not sure I would lump the Wall Street Journal in with the “liberal media.” The WSJ’s editorial content tends to skew conservative. If there is any slant to the reporting, it would be in the direction of pro-big business and policies that benefit business…

]]> By: Beck http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36234 Beck Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:32:58 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36234 Park'd: Right you are, indeed! The author of the article works in D.C. for the WSJ. She has access to all available news, information, polls, facts on illegal immigration. She simply can't make herself tell the truth and her editors support her. Also catch the part in the article: "The bipartisan bills that Mr. McCain and others pushed in the Senate in 2006 and again this summer would have provided a path to legal status. Republican opposition killed it both times..." Republican opposition?! What about the goofy Republican senators who supported the bills? The bills wouldn't have been stopped without opposition from some Democratic senators. What about all the Democrats who called their Senators in opposition to the bills? This is not a Republican vs Democrat issue. AARGH. Park’d:

Right you are, indeed! The author of the article works in D.C. for the WSJ. She has access to all available news, information, polls, facts on illegal immigration. She simply can’t make herself tell the truth and her editors support her.

Also catch the part in the article:

“The bipartisan bills that Mr. McCain and others pushed in the Senate in 2006 and again this summer would have provided a path to legal status. Republican opposition killed it both times…”

Republican opposition?! What about the goofy Republican senators who supported the bills? The bills wouldn’t have been stopped without opposition from some Democratic senators. What about all the Democrats who called their Senators in opposition to the bills? This is not a Republican vs Democrat issue.

AARGH.

]]> By: Advocator http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36218 Advocator Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:30:13 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36218 Park'd: Right you are! Forced to report the truth (albeit with a spin)! That's exactly why I thought the article was so important to be posted to here. The truth is, that as much as many politicians want to avoid this issue (e.g., Frank Wolf, who had NOTHING on his website about it as little as 3 months ago), are now being forced to address it, and forced to take a stand on it. And we, right here in PWC, and especially HSM, are a large part of forcing that issue. Park’d:

Right you are! Forced to report the truth (albeit with a spin)! That’s exactly why I thought the article was so important to be posted to here. The truth is, that as much as many politicians want to avoid this issue (e.g., Frank Wolf, who had NOTHING on his website about it as little as 3 months ago), are now being forced to address it, and forced to take a stand on it. And we, right here in PWC, and especially HSM, are a large part of forcing that issue.

]]> By: Rob Smalls http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36217 Rob Smalls Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:26:08 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36217 Another excellent publication of Front Line. My thanks to the staff who hards hard on such a quality product! Another excellent publication of Front Line. My thanks to the staff who hards hard on such a quality product!

]]> By: Enquiring Minds Want to Know http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36214 Enquiring Minds Want to Know Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:14:03 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36214 The Liberals love taking 'Poles!' The Liberals love taking ‘Poles!’

]]> By: Legal Guy http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36213 Legal Guy Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:13:47 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36213 I love the Front Line! Can't wait for next month's edition! I love the Front Line! Can’t wait for next month’s edition!

]]> By: park'd http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36207 park'd Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:45:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36207 "even though polls show a majority of voters are in favor of allowing illegal immigrants to earn legal status." LIES, the complete opposite is true. "The presidential candidates, facing a small but noisy opposition, have generally shied away from talking about any legalization during the campaign." LIES again. The group is not small. It consists of many tens of millions of Americans that are sick of illegals and all the problems that come with them. Liberal spin from a liberal rag forced to report the truth. “even though polls show a majority of voters are in favor of allowing illegal immigrants to earn legal status.”

LIES, the complete opposite is true.

“The presidential candidates, facing a small but noisy opposition, have generally shied away from talking about any legalization during the campaign.”

LIES again. The group is not small. It consists of many tens of millions of Americans that are sick of illegals and all the problems that come with them. Liberal spin from a liberal rag forced to report the truth.

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36196 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:52:27 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/10/31/novembers-edition-of-the-front-line-available/#comment-36196 http://illegal.globalincidentmap.com/home.php Illegal Alien Activity Tracker. http://illegal.globalincidentmap.com/home.php
Illegal Alien Activity Tracker.

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