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BOCS Meeting Notice: No Violation Of The Law

By Greg L | 2 November 2007 | Prince William County | 128 Comments

Breaking…

According to a recent press release, the special prosecutor appointed by Paul Ebert to investigate Prince William County Chairman Corey Stewart in regards to the the mailer informing residents of the October 16th, 2007 meeting of the Prince William Board of County Supervisors has reviewed the case and concluded that no violation of the law has occurred.

What a surprise.  But this part of Chesterefield County Commonwealth’s Attorney William Davenport’s letter to Paul Ebert certainly is:

“Contrary to the original complaint, the notice did not reference the web site of Black Velvet.”

Huh?  So it would appear that the original complaint fraudulently claimed that the notice by Corey Stewart told county residents to visit this website, and Paul Ebert never bothered to even look at the mailer to determine whether this was true or not?  He, like every other county resident got one of these in the mail himself!  This is ridiculous.

I’d sure like to see a copy of that complaint…

Now if we can only get an answer to the question about whether it is lawful or appropriate for a candidate for Commonwealth’s Attorney to publicly announce an investigation into someone running against a candidate he has endorsed, contributed $3,600 towards, and reportedly with whom he had a romantic relationship, within the last few weeks of a campaign absent any allegation of a specific violation of the law. This clear violation of the rules of professional conduct for attorneys must be addressed.

Ham Sandwich would never do such a thing. Write in “Ham Sandwich” for Prince William County Commonwealth’s Attorney on November 6th!



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128 Comments

  1. Batson D. Belfrey said on 2 Nov 2007 at 3:34 pm:
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    Greg,

    I am sure you could FOIA the original complaint. I believe that it is also quite legal for Ebert to have referred the case.

    In Ebert’s defense, I am sure he could not legally do any investigating of the complaint, and referred it to Chesterfield (by previous agreement, all such cases and change of venues are sent there).

    What’s this about a romantic relationship with Panadak? I thought he had better taste.

  2. Greg L said on 2 Nov 2007 at 3:45 pm:
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    Before Pandak started dating her current husband, apparently she and Ebert had a “thing” going for a while. Neither were married, and aside from the disturbing imagery, it’s not very remarkable other than seeing Ebert try to do Sharon’s dirty work for her.

  3. Anonymous said on 2 Nov 2007 at 3:49 pm:
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    In 2003, a number of complaints were filed against Sheriff Stoffregen. Ebert followed the exact same procedure he did here. Even though Corey Stewart may have avoided criminal prosecution here, what he did, while perhaps legal, was highly questionable and over the line from an ethical stand point. He found a legal technicality, in that he did not expllicitly say “Vote for me, I’m against immigrants.” It It is part of his win at any cost mentality, one that is very much adopted by this web site, with its very casual attitude towards accuracy, that is so degrading politics in PWC, Manassas, and MP. Corey Stewart is a wreckless man with very poor judgment. That is not much of a problem in a blogger, it is a problem in a public official. As for the childish gossip noted by BVBL and so cruely comment on by the aptly named Batson Belfrey, I didn’t realize this site was run for and by Junior High School students, not that I mean any insult toward Jr. High Students.

  4. Legal2 said on 2 Nov 2007 at 3:56 pm:
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    Point being, Ebert was not exactly an objective party. When can PWC make the CA accountable? We need to be able to replace him.

  5. Anonymous said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:05 pm:
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    IN THE MIRROR!

  6. Turn PW Blue said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:05 pm:
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    Best way to hold him accountable would be to actually run someone (real, not deli meat) against him. Kind of hard to get him out when he runs unopposed. Someone, somewhere in the Republican Party must have made a decision this race was not winnable and so no candidate was actively recruited (just like the Dems seem to have passed on the Sheriff race and the Brentsville BOCS race).

  7. opditch said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:07 pm:
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    I doubt that this information will be on the front page above the fold tomorrow. Maybe you can hunt for it in section C?

  8. Greg L said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:09 pm:
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    Blue, that certainly was tried, but the last person who ran against Ebert and lost was subjected to a ten year vendetta that nearly bankrupted him. The legal community is afraid of Ebert. They’ve seen what he does to anyone who challenges him, and they don’t want to stick their necks out.

  9. veteran said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:23 pm:
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    And you speak for the entire legal community I suppose.

  10. Patty said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:34 pm:
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    Pandak and Rishell, two peas in a pod. Can we send them on a boat trip? Maybe Ebert will hitch a ride.

  11. Starryflights said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:46 pm:
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    Since Ebert made a public statement at the BOCS meeting about this post card, maybe Stewart should return the favor at the next meeting. I would like to see Ebert step down. I do believe that Ebert should be investigated for his bias on this matter.

  12. Patty said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:52 pm:
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    Starryflights,

    I’ve already been in contact with the State Attorney General’s office.

  13. Rob Smalls said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:13 pm:
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    Veteran, don’t be an ass. Greg made an observation - right or wrong - and it’s his blog. If you don’t like it troll elsewhere.

  14. Lafayette said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:27 pm:
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    Well, I said at PWCBOS meeting on 10/16/07 and I’ll say it again.. Shame on Paul Ebert.
    Similar notices are mailed out for Public Hearings for Zoning and other issues.(to affected area and border properties)
    There were many seniors that were thankful for the notice, and many other LEGAL county residents too.

  15. Anonymous said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:29 pm:
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    Sorry Lafayette, those notices to affected properties are required by statute and ordinance, apples and oranges.

    Mom

  16. Dolph said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:32 pm:
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    I was not aware that Paul Ebert spoke at the BOCS meeting. What did he say?

  17. Anonymous said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:44 pm:
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    The outcome of the “investigation” was a foregone conclusion. Informing the public of a meeting that every PWC citizen had a vested interest in knowing about certainly did not meet the criteria of a crime or conflict of interest. Show me where on that notice that any reference was made to a political party.

    More Virginia taxpayer money squandered with that “investigation.”

  18. Batson D. Belfrey said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:47 pm:
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    “what he did, while perhaps legal, was highly questionable and over the line from an ethical stand point. ”

    Says you. How about mailers flat-out lying about your opponents votes (Rishell). How about a candidate forging the name of his opponent on a mailer, to make it appear like it came from said opponent (Day). How about mailers that criticize an opponent for bills that were voted on before he worked in Richmond as a Legislative Aid, and criticizing the same opponent for bills you actually voted for (Colgan).

    You want to stake out where the “ethical line” is? Compared to the utter crap the Dems have been pulling, Corey Stewarts LEGAL use of funds to put out a notification to encourage citizen participation in a hearing which will have significant impact on the community is responsible leadership.

  19. Anonymous said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:48 pm:
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    opditch said on 2 Nov 2007 at 4:07 pm:
    I doubt that this information will be on the front page above the fold tomorrow. Maybe you can hunt for it in section C?

    Probably have better luck finding it in the “Sports” page.

  20. Capt. Schtubing said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:50 pm:
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    “Pandak and Rishell, two peas in a pod. Can we send them on a boat trip? Maybe Ebert will hitch a ride.”

    Oh yeah! Ebert on a boat with too hot babes like Pandak and Rishell! Talk about a LOVE BOAT!

  21. Corey Stewart Cleared of Any Wrongdoing; Paul Ebert Guilty of Fudging Facts « Virginia Virtucon said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:51 pm:
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    […] Any Wrongdoing; Paul Ebert Guilty of Fudging Facts Posted on November 2, 2007 by Riley BVBL breaks the news that PWC Chairman Corey Stewart has been cleared of any wrongdoing in relation to mailing out a […]

  22. Batson D. Belfrey said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:54 pm:
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    “And you speak for the entire legal community I suppose.”

    Veteran,

    If it weren’t true, Ebert would have had challengers. Why don’t you ask a few lawyers and see, before commenting with your ususal uninformed skepticism.

  23. anon said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:54 pm:
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    Lafayette is correct. All rezonings and SUP applications require a notice being sent out to all property owners whose property is adjacent or is within a certain distance of the application property. As supervisor of Occoquan, Stewart took this one step further on some rezonings. On large contraversial rezonings, he paid to mail notices out to Occoquan residents, realizing that a large development AFFECTS everyone in some way, therefore they should be notified of the vote. The developers were furious but the residents were delighted to be made aware of the rezonings.

    In the case of this resolution, ALL people were affected by the resolution so what is wrong with sending a notice out to all people. This is open government at its best. All Stewart did was bring this subject into the light where people could make up their own minds.

    I never understood why anyone would want residents to be in the dark about development or the illegal immigration issue. Let the light in! Get more people involved, not just a select few who have a conflict of interest. Our supervisors are supposed to represent us. Isn’t it easier for them to represent us when they know what the majority of their constituents think?

    I am glad Stewart was vindicated on the postcard. Now he can really celebrate on Tuesday.

  24. Dad said on 2 Nov 2007 at 5:57 pm:
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    “Sorry Lafayette, those notices to affected properties are required by statute and ordinance, apples and oranges.

    Mom”

    Mom, thanks for again showing this blog what a nit-picking ass you are.

  25. One Voice said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:16 pm:
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    Well, I can think of better uses of $31,000 in the county than sending that mailer out. I am sure a bizillion people planned to show up anyway. Call it what you want, I still see it as grandstanding with money that did he not need to spend.

    And of course, as Mr Stewart answers to no one, he did not have to follow the BOS practice of letting everyone know how he planned to spend his discrtionary fund. Poor Mr. Stirrup was hit over the head for buying flags for his office, but he handled it like a man - by being straightforward and by politely listening to the criticism.

  26. Lafayette said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:19 pm:
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    Mom,
    True enough they’re required to be mailed. However, they are paid for by the taxpayers too. Notice for such an important meeting should be sent to each and every residence as it was.
    Imagine you were a senior citizen on a fixed income, you don’t have extra money to throw away on cable or MJM/Potomac News. Wouldn’t you like to get notice in your mailbox about such an important meeting?
    Did you hear the number of citizens that spoke that said they got out of their pajamas to come to McCoart Bldg to address the BOS. You were there weren’t you? Oh, you left too early to see, hear, and talk to some of the folks that felt so strongly to get there have their legal voice heard.
    Ms P
    P.S. Dad’s right!!

  27. peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:24 pm:
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    Interesting. Someone told me the other day that their notice DID reference BVBL.

  28. Batson D. Belfrey said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:27 pm:
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    “As for the childish gossip noted by BVBL and so cruely comment on by the aptly named Batson Belfrey, I didn’t realize this site was run for and by Junior High School students, not that I mean any insult toward Jr. High Students.”

    Sharon,

    Shouldn’t you be out door knocking instead for reading this blog? Election day is Tuesday…Focus.

    Ebert has a rep as a ladies man. It’s no secret. He’s a single, powerful guy. He’s dated some serious babes over the years he’s been single. No national secret here either, and no foul. That he’s dated Pandak is not a crime. While I do see some partisanship in his even considering the complaint, his comments to the press about it, etc., I don’t think he did the wrong thing to send it down to Chesterfield. I’ve never considered him to be rabidly partisan. He investigated Stoffregan, and Steve Chapman, both within weeks of an election.

    But Sharon Pandak? Wow! The images this conjurs up are indeed disturbing. I keep seeing kids with giant wobbly heads who mumble a lot! Thanks Greg…

  29. Batson D. Belfrey said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:29 pm:
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    “he did not have to follow the BOS practice of letting everyone know how he planned to spend his discrtionary fund.”

    Hi…it’s his discretionary fund. That’s what “discretionary” means. What you are talking about is a courtesy…nothing more.

  30. Batson D. Belfrey said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:32 pm:
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    “Interesting. Someone told me the other day that their notice DID reference BVBL.”

    And someone told me the other day that Mikey, the kid from the Life Cereal commercials died after eating pop-rocks and drinking a pepsi. But, I didn’t believe them…because I am not a total idiot like peace is.

  31. One Voice said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:36 pm:
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    Bats –

    Right your are and courteous Mr. Stewart is not.

  32. Brighter Future said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:50 pm:
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    Ebert’s friend in Chesterfield has always gotten stuff that Ebert won’t touch.

    It is great that Davenport found no wrong in what Corey did. There wasn’t in many peoples mind.

    Some of us were afraid Davenport would go the other way,as he’s a commrade of Ebert and he’s made some bad decisions in the past.

    Davenport use to be here in this County.Then he went to Chesterfield. Don’t know why??

    Some of us have voiced for over 8/10 years to do away with the discretionary funds. Most Supervisors use them to gather votes. Tatoos off of gang members,who say they are reborned.

    I have asked the papers to go back and check when this money came about and why?? No they won’t do.

    $47000 for each Supervisor,ontop of their salary and office expenses is way to much money.

  33. starryflights said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:50 pm:
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    I have the mailer in my hand and there is NO reference to this site (BVBL).

  34. justice said on 2 Nov 2007 at 6:59 pm:
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    Corey Stewart did the right thing in sending the mailer out. Several individuals who got up to speak at the 10/16 meeting thanked him for what he did as they were not aware of the meeting . Chairman Stewart is a courteous, professional leader. I admire his tenacity and straight forwardness. I too hope we can celebrate with him on Tuesday. One Voice and Peace, PULEEZE get a life.

  35. One Voice said on 2 Nov 2007 at 7:03 pm:
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    Justice - I have a life. I just want a solvent county government.

    The volunteers came out against Stewart as did the PD. The money situation at the county is BAD and they know it.

  36. manassascityresident said on 2 Nov 2007 at 7:05 pm:
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    Justice -
    AMEN!

  37. One Voice said on 2 Nov 2007 at 7:13 pm:
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    “Chairman Stewart is a courteous, professional leader.” Puleeezze, at least say you are for him because of his immigration stance not his character.

    You’ll be sorry! But enjoy the temporary fantasy if it makes you happy. :)

  38. es_la_ley said on 2 Nov 2007 at 7:19 pm:
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    One Voice: “Well, I can think of better uses of $31,000 in the county than sending that mailer out.”

    Me too! He should send out another mailer reminding all *legal* PWC residents to vote on Tuesday! ;-)

  39. One Voice said on 2 Nov 2007 at 7:26 pm:
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    Can’t argue with mailing out voting reminders. Don’t really care if he sent out the immigration meeting reminders. Do care that he is not courteous to other BOS members and do care that when he can’t afford to fund the illegal immigration program and that alien unit, he spends money like that. Maybe they all should offer up their discretionary funds to fund that.

    That’s my argument and I’m stickin’ to it.

    Money + his a short term interest in PWC = not my vote. :)

    Stirrup can handle immigration and Pandak.

  40. anon said on 2 Nov 2007 at 7:45 pm:
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    Peace:
    Oh come on! Don’t you read the papers at all? That postcard was reprinted in full in the newspaper, back and front sides. Read before you speak.

    That money was from his disretionary fund…don’t you guys get it? It was not from the county general fund. If he was any of the other supervisors, it could have been spent to buy a TV for his office staff, a new copier, a mini fridge for the office, additional staff members at his office, donations to the Elks Lodge or Boys Scouts or to buy a microwave for the Senior Center or a freezer for SERVE. It is essentially an overblown petty cash slush fund that probably should be done away with, but it never, ever would have been spent on ANYTHING to make the county solvent.

    At least he used it on something that benefited every single citizen in this county - he spent it on informing us. No other supervisor has ever been able to say that he or she spent that fund on something that was beneficial and informational to every single citizen.

    And for the last time, the only time the supervisors notify the other supervisors is when the money is being transferred, i.e. to a charity. If they just spend it for something like a TV, copier, staff member, etc., they do not typically notify the other supervisors. This was not a transfer to a charity, it was an expense.

    Personally I think they should do away with the fund, and both Stewart and Stirrup support doing away with it, but as long as it is still there they can and should spend it the way they see fit. The other supervisors typically just use it to fund their favorite charities. But I can never criticize a supervisor who used it to notify every single citizen of such an important vote.

    Rock on Corey!

  41. peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 7:54 pm:
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    “Peace:
    Oh come on! Don’t you read the papers at all? That postcard was reprinted in full in the newspaper, back and front sides. Read before you speak.”

    So — two or more versions must have been mailed out. I’m only saying what my neighbor told me. She said that when she linked to the referenced site, it came up BVBL.

  42. Lafayette said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:02 pm:
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    Peace,
    Your neighbor lied to you. Come on, and you believed it?

  43. peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:04 pm:
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    My neighbor did not lie. She brought it up. I’d never heard that before.

  44. peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:06 pm:
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    I will go further to say that I blew it off because I didn’t know what she was talking about. However, she’s not active in politics, so she had no reason to lie about it.

  45. Lafayette said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:11 pm:
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    Peace,
    Well, if you blew it off, good for you. However, we haven’t heard any other reports like that. Hmmmm

  46. James Young said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:25 pm:
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    “One Voice” says he/she “wants a solvent county government.” This is false; what he/she really wants is a bigger county government. If your primary goal were a solvent County government, then you would support any course to that end, including cuts.

    And for once, “Batson” and I are in accord (I know: Armaggedon is impending). What part of “discretionary” don’t you people understand?

    On the other hand, it’s not surprising that people who don’t understand “legal” or “marriage” can’t understand “discretionary,” either.

  47. peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:31 pm:
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    I only blew it off because I’d not heard about the link before. I’m trying to get in touch with her again to have her clarify.

  48. Legal2 said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:39 pm:
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    I checked the website on the notice just now - the only website was www.pwcgov.org - NOT BVBL. Other than that, there are 3 additional email addresses, NOT BVBL. If someone were to “google” pwcgov or some phrase from the notice, then possibly there would be a blog hit.

  49. peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:49 pm:
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    Legal2, that doesn’t mean that all the mailers had the same website address on them. How many thousands were mailed out?

  50. manassascityresident said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:54 pm:
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    Gee, Peace -
    Do you think they printed 12 different versions, divided them up, and sent different versions to different neighborhoods?????????????? PULLEEZZZZZZ!

  51. Tobias Jodter said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:57 pm:
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    A co-worker of mine showed me the mailer she received at her residence in Broad Run. It did not reference BVBL. And she did not know about the public hearing and she was glad she got the mailer.

  52. One Voice said on 2 Nov 2007 at 9:14 pm:
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    James Young - I support cuts. I supported cutting Adult Day Care, transportation, historical society and few more.

    What do you think should be cut?

    Bigger goverment is not what I want, I want a leader to have some fiscal depth. Mr Stirrup, Mr Nohe have this - Mr. Stewart does not.

    Don’t put words in my mouth. I do just fine as it is!

  53. me-n-u said on 2 Nov 2007 at 9:31 pm:
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    peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:31 pm:
    “I only blew it off because I’d not heard about the link before. I’m trying to get in touch with her again to have her clarify.”

    Ask her to SHOW it to you. I can say all kinds of things, it doesn’t mean they’re true.

    How many post cards did Ricky Jaurez give back to the BOCS? It was a pretty good sized stack. That means Cory Stewart even sent these notices to the illegal alien loving people of the county. If it was for political purposes, I bet he would have only sent them to people he knew were for the funding of the resolution.

    Give it up One Voice and peace. Oh and lets not forget about MOM. Please go back to where ever you have been.

  54. One Voice said on 2 Nov 2007 at 9:38 pm:
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    I never said it was political. I said the money would have been better used funding the illegal enforcement effort or something else. Does that make me political or practical?

    Won’t give up. :)

  55. ceejay said on 2 Nov 2007 at 9:45 pm:
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    Corey is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t.

    seems i remember, way back last summer at the initial debate on refusing county services to illegal aliens that some complained that they did not know that would be debated and voted upon at that meeting of the BOS, and it is Corey’s fault for not getting out the word.

    so Corey remembers that, and sends out his postcard to every single mailing address in the county. and THEN he’s criticized on the basis of electioneering. the postcard i received in Lake Ridge, and that my daughter in Bristow received, and my son in Gainesville received, were all identical. and NONE of those cards expressed an opinion. they simply stated that the hearing would take place.

    personally looking forward to Tuesday night when my phone will stop ringing off the hook and i will be able to go to the mailbox and not need a wheelbarrow to haul in the political flyers.

    and i am so voting for the Honorable Ham Sandwich.

  56. me-n-u said on 2 Nov 2007 at 9:55 pm:
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    One Voice-

    I stand corrected on the political part, sorry.

  57. ceejay said on 2 Nov 2007 at 10:02 pm:
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    one voice, you seem to think that Corey Stewart shouldn’t have spent the monies from his discretionary funds on the post card. i get that. but they are his funds to spend as he pleases. i’d rather he sent out these cards than passing out a bit of cash here and there to various local children’s sports teams, as i understand was tradition.

  58. peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 10:02 pm:
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    “Gee, Peace -
    Do you think they printed 12 different versions, divided them up, and sent different versions to different neighborhoods?????????????? PULLEEZZZZZZ!”

    No, because this person and I live in the same neighborhood, and apparently ours were different. But there’s a possibility there are at least TWO versions floating around out there. Why? I don’t know. I just find it interesting that BVBL was mentioned in the letter from the CA, and that my neighbor mentioned seeing the link, clearly out of the blue.

    Most people, like myself, have already thrown the mailer away. As I said, I have contacted her to clarify, but she has not replied.

  59. me-n-u said on 2 Nov 2007 at 10:10 pm:
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    I have received at least four mailer a day for the past week. The last two days I have received 6 a day.

    I don’t normally say bad things about children, but I got a recorded call from Rishells granddaughter yesterday. It might have gone better if the poor child could talk so you could have understood her. I think Rishell should leave the politics to the grown-ups.

    Did anyone else get that call?

  60. Anonymous said on 2 Nov 2007 at 10:26 pm:
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    peace on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:31 pm:

    Maybe she already left the county.

  61. peace said on 2 Nov 2007 at 10:48 pm:
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    peace on 2 Nov 2007 at 8:31 pm:

    Maybe she already left the county.

    What does that mean? The woman I spoke with was a WASP.

  62. John Light said on 3 Nov 2007 at 12:30 am:
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    How Italy cracks down on immigration: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071102/ap_on_re_eu/italy_foreigner_crime_crackdown

  63. ddpdrinker said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:12 am:
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    Where can we get some bulldozers?

  64. Dolph said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:19 am:
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    Ebert a leftie? (see blog intro) Surely you are kidding. Anyone who has more people on death row than any other commonwealth’s attorney in Virginia can hardly be called a leftie.

  65. ddpdrinker said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:21 am:
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    Right, Dolph !!!

  66. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 8:25 am:
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    ceejay
    “one voice, you seem to think that Corey Stewart shouldn’t have spent the monies from his discretionary funds on the post card. i get that. but they are his funds to spend as he pleases. i’d rather he sent out these cards than passing out a bit of cash here and there to various local children’s sports teams, as i understand was tradition.”

    I said that the money (our tax dollars) could have been better spent. I also said he should have had the decency to float it by the BOS members as the rest do. Granted, it’s a simple courtesy but that is what I find lacking with Mr. Stewart. He knew he did not have the money to fund the illegal immigration effort for the PD when he spent the $31,000. After all, $31,000 is 10% of what he gave for the entire immigration funding !!!!

    Before anyone jumps and says, but they will fund it later; there is no more money for this year AND he knows it now and he knew it then.

    We are headed toward becoming the Camden NJ of the south with your endorsements. Mr. Stirrup can handle things without him. He might like it. :)

  67. Jones said on 3 Nov 2007 at 10:44 am:
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    Yes, legally Corey Stewart could have spent the funds on anything he wants. It does not make it morally or ethiclly correct. We elect our officials and hope they will be good stewards of our money. Legally Corey could have used the money to buy booze for his office. Would that have been a good use of tax payers money? No. We need a Chairman who leads by example. A lot of things that are legal are not ethical.

  68. anon said on 3 Nov 2007 at 10:47 am:
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    One Voice -

    You are incorrect if you think that the supervisors run their discretionary funds expenditures by the BOCS. They only do that if they are GIVING IT to an outside group. They DO NOT do that if they are spending it on a “thing” or on personnel. So, there was no need to run it by the board out of “courtesy.”

  69. Jones said on 3 Nov 2007 at 10:53 am:
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    Courtesy is the least of the problems with a $31,000 expenditure for policitcal gain. If Corey Steward was so interested in hearing what the public had to say, why did he leave to give a TV interview. That was rude. And what was the purpose? Political gain for Corey Steward. Whoever deloped the saying “its all about me” must have know Steward.

  70. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 11:52 am:
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    anon - The dollar amount alone makes it an issue that begged the practice of public disclosure. If that is the kind of leadership you admire, well certainly vote for him. I’m not.

  71. Dolph said on 3 Nov 2007 at 12:46 pm:
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    The entire series of events seems to be irregular; irregular in that there was a departure from standard operating procedure. One has to ask themselves why a public hearing wasn’t held rather than bringing the circus to town during a regular business meeting. One also must ask themselves what political gain was to be had from this departure from normal procedure. I suppose no agreement will be reached in regards to the last question.

    Stepping back from all the fireworks and media coverage, now the dust has settled, I am trying to evaluate what Prince William County has gained.

  72. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:08 pm:
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    For one, they’ve gained enough noteriety to dissuade economic growth. The “PWC is Failing” roadshow did enough damage to our economic potential than donkey diving at the fair 10-12 years ago.

    Not referring to the resolution, it had to happen. But the manipulation of this for personal gains attracting national attention makes us look like idiots and racists - two things we’re (most of us :) ) aren’t. I don’t blame the media for this. They didn’t have to do much.

    It should have been left to Mr. Stirrup to manage. He has dignity, he has grace and he has good manners. Instead we’ve all been hijacked by a “wanna-be”.

  73. James Young said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:32 pm:
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    When you who condemn Corey get as exercised about ALL of the spending from those discretionary funds — which I have condemned for more than a decade — then you can be taken seriously. Until then, it’s simply about choices.

    You don’t like the choice that Corey made which, incidentally, was his to make.

    I don’t like ANY of the spending from what amount to slush funds for Supervisors to buy votes. I’m willing to condemn ALL of them on that basis. But it makes him no better or worse than ANY of them.

    Once again, we are presented with people who are using purportedly objective criteria in the service of their partisan agenda. And that is, quite simply, hypocrisy.

  74. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:38 pm:
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    I don’t disagree with you. Tatoo removal makes me cringe, but at least it’s public and follows the current practice. Someone mentioned that they only disclose what they donate. They may not go public with office supplies or flags or such, but which is it in Mr. Stewarts case, for the common good which is usually publicized or for personal but acceptable use?

    In my book, it’s not what you do as much as how you do it. That’s is where we will part opinions I guess…

  75. Jones said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:39 pm:
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    Yea, giving to the Boys and Girls club is the same as sending out a political flyer. All the kids that attend the club run out and vote for the supervisor who donates. In the long run the supervisors that help organizations like this are improving the community…not dividing it and making us the laughing stock of the country. All the hype, anger and ugliness and what is the result? It is going to cost the taypayer lots more than $31,000 and it is going to change nothing. Oh, wait a minute, you need to prove citizenship to ride the Blue bird bus. How many illegals do you think have ever taken one of the trips. Maybe 0.

  76. Dolph said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:54 pm:
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    Alright! One vote weighing in as nothing with the exception of no blue haired old illegal ladies will be allowed to ride the blue bird seniors bus. I still would like to hear community opinion on what we have gained as a county that will save us money and help with the illegal immigration problem.

  77. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 2:00 pm:
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    I think the perception from the hispanic community illegal or not is that this is not where they want to be. Economically, some may feel the same way too. It will take longer to realize that impact.

  78. Dolph said on 3 Nov 2007 at 2:24 pm:
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    One Voice,

    So are you implying that the gain was more about perception rather than actual substance I am still searching for answers. I know you are the ‘follow the money’ kind of person, which I respect. I am having difficulty with the financial paper trail. All I am seeing is the political gain paper trail. I am not so sure I want that done at taxpayer expense. I am just trying to eye-ball the bottom line.

  79. Dolph said on 3 Nov 2007 at 2:25 pm:
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    Correction: ….substance?

  80. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 5:06 pm:
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    A declining illegal population will result in the largest chunk of cash savings coming from the schools and from the hospitals - both controlled by the feds. Local cash savings is almost very small comparted with the exenditures of police and jails as directed by the BOS.

    I would hope to see federally controlled services decline resulting in a local redirection of funding within the schools. This will not result in any local tax break but hopefully with more efficient and improved services meeting the needs of the legal population. (Like getting rid of trailers)

    The county has a huge revenue problem brought about by declining home values and upside down loans - yes there are some illegals involved in this but please don’t credit them with mortagage defaults accross the nation. Consider the creative financing that has gone on to meet greed in multiple areas. Really, a $950,000 home in Hoadley???????? Some how this massive problem of revenues and yes mismanagement at the BOS level is being overlooked or dismissed as a result of illegal immigration.

    My biggest concern is the damage that has been done to PWC’s reputation as a destination for economic development. This damage is not due to the resolution along, but the crass manner in which it was made known to the nations. The fact that It has been used for personal political gain by one out of control official is a shame. We have been portrayed as a semi-rural racist county - hard to balance that with the 7th wealthiest county in the nation isn’t it? Being the 7th wealthiest county in the nation was good for PWC economic gain.

    If the intention of the resolution had been cannonballed into the national eye in a thoughtful, objective and dignified manner it would have been a win win for all. A thoughtful, objective approach would have had the fate of PWC as its first priority, not personal political gain.

    I think the county has been sacrificed, unwittingly.

  81. Anonymous said on 3 Nov 2007 at 5:37 pm:
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    Jones said on 3 Nov 2007 at 1:39 pm:

    How many illegals do you think have ever taken one of the trips. 0

    Why do you suppose that? Do you have the figures to back up your statement? Are you the “illegal alien” ticket taker on the bus?

  82. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 5:42 pm:
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    Total trips is 0 legal or illegal. The bus is gone. The bus was chopped during last year’s budget cuts.

  83. Vigilant1 said on 3 Nov 2007 at 5:42 pm:
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    Dolph on 3 Nov 2007 at 12:46 pm:

    It’s not so much of what we have gained…..it more of what we have lost since the passage of the resolution and how much more are we going lose once the law enforcement portion kicks in.

  84. Vigilant1 said on 3 Nov 2007 at 5:45 pm:
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    One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 5:42 pm:
    Total trips is 0 legal or illegal. The bus is gone. The bus was chopped during last year’s budget cuts.

    Are you sure about that. The bus was sold because of the high maintenance costs and paying for a driver. All future trips are scheduled with a “charter.” Have seen nothing saying all trips scheduled have been dropped. Maybe I missed something!

  85. Jones said on 3 Nov 2007 at 5:49 pm:
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    All you have to do is talk to people who have taken bus trips. No one I have spoken to even remembers a hispanic taking one of the trips let alone an illegal
    The point is the resolution solves nothing except cost the County money. The political flyer did nothing divide the County and the community and promote hate all this for $31,000.

  86. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 5:50 pm:
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    They no longer use the bus for the big overnight trips at a cost to the county. The charter passes more cost to the seniors - which is good when they want to go to Napa!

    So, I see your reference - I was being a bit too literal. Sorry. Comes from the money focus. :)

  87. Anonymous said on 3 Nov 2007 at 7:32 pm:
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    Personally, I wouldn’t vote for him because his press release would flunk a 10th grade English class. I think English is a second language for Stewart.

  88. Dolph said on 3 Nov 2007 at 8:15 pm:
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    One Voice,

    I knew you would come through with the money angle. I am just not ready to bet on a mass exodus from Prince William County. Right now, it is hard to determine if anyone has left.

    Secondly, if people are leaving, is it that the construction industry is drying up or that the arm loans are maturing into something unaffordable. Before I assign cause/effect relationships, I need to make sure that I have the right cause.

    Schools are up by about 2k kids this year. That sure smacks in the face of any projected decreases. I am taking a wait and see approach.

  89. One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 10:40 pm:
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    Thank you Dolph.

    I am very concerned about PWC’s economic outlook - if it wasn’t for the immigration resolution, Mr Stewart would be scampering about dealing with this issue. No wonder he likes immigration so much and glommed on Mr. Stirrup’s idea in July.

    He did lose the support of the Police and the Volunteer Firefighters. That is a big deal. They are closer to the county’s budget situation though and have some good insight.

    … 7th wealthiest county in the USA can’t afford to support more officers and career firefighters. Two district police stations in PWC as opposed to 8 in Fairfax????? They are 2-3 times our size in population. Next district police station has been scrapped from the PWC’s CIPP entirely. Something is rotten in Denmark…

    Wake up everybody !!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

  90. Patty said on 3 Nov 2007 at 10:58 pm:
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    One Voice,

    For your information John Stirrup supports Corey Stewart. In fact he helped him with his campaign for the special election for Chair. Are you in the dark? Seems like you are in the dark as much as you want other people to be.

    I can’t tell you how many of my neighbors appreciated Supervisor Stewart for sending out that mailer. Lots of my neighbors thought what he did was great and wished it would happen more often on big issues that face the Board.

    People like you concern me. If you think it is okay to keep people in the dark, I have one question for you: Have you always been an Adolf Hitler fan? I know, you must like Fidel Castro. He is a master of keeping people in the dark. Why don’t you write him a letter telling him how you think people shouldn’t know what goes on in government. Who knows? He may give you a high level position in Cuba.

    It is an evil practive not to inform consituents of important votes, especially ones that effect everyone in the county. You must be one of those democrats who think the citizenry is too stupid to govern themselves and shouldn’t be involved in government. You must be one of those who think our country needs more professional politicians to run it. You, who look down citizens who you call ignorant. If you say that is not so, one only has to look at your posts. You must be a member of the communist party. Are you Sharon Pandak? Why don’t you take your beyond left field liberal attitude and take a hike? While you’re at it, take Corey Riley and Rishell with you. You are full of crap to “say” you like John Stirrup and then say you hate Corey Stewart. Why don’t you tell the truth? Or does lying come natural to you and you just can’t help yourself?

  91. Patty said on 3 Nov 2007 at 11:19 pm:
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    FYI,

    John Stirrup was the one who wrote and presented the resolution and that resolution came from the citizens of Westgate, Sudley and the Gainesville district.

  92. AWCheney said on 3 Nov 2007 at 11:53 pm:
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    “The point is the resolution solves nothing except cost the County money. The political flyer did nothing divide the County and the community and promote hate all this for $31,000.”

    You’re wrong Jones…the resolution is a pressure valve to release some of the building hate in the community, and just a first step. The strong emotions among the citizenry regarding this issue had been building long before the resolution because of governmental inaction regarding illegal aliens taking over our communities, which is exactly what they are trying to do. At least the resolution is action, and is leading to more advocacies on the state and national level by concerned citizens. Politicians at all levels are taking notice that the vast majority of their LEGITIMATE voters demand that action be taken to rid ourselves of illegal aliens, and welcome LEGAL immigrants, in our communities.

    Our local governments have limited authority in this issue. The message to the state and national governments is…do the job or give us the authority to do it ourselves! If the illegal aliens have any sense at all they will run, not walk, out of our county because, one way or another, this is not over…it’s only begun.

  93. Dolph said on 4 Nov 2007 at 12:03 am:
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    One Voice thinks with her head, not her heart. She is speaking to the fiscal state of affairs in Prince William County. Time after time, I have found her to be right on the money.

    When does one have to take on the responsibility of keeping themselves informed? If something happens in my area that I don’t know about, I only have myself to blame for not reading a newspaper, turning on a tv or radio, or talking to my neighbors. I do not expect the government to spoon-feed me information at taxpayer expense.

    My husband and I would hardly be considered spring chickens, a term bandied about this blog all too frequently. He is is on medicare, yet he makes certain he stays informed by reading newspapers, listening to far too much talk radio and news, and the evening news.

  94. AWCheney said on 4 Nov 2007 at 12:27 am:
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    Dolph, I was speaking to the Resolution and to Jones’ comment, not to the $31K announcement flyer. You were, I trust, addressing Patty and not me, yes?

  95. Dolph said on 4 Nov 2007 at 12:34 am:
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    AWC,

    Correct.

  96. AWCheney said on 4 Nov 2007 at 12:42 am:
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    Thank you. :-)

  97. Patty said on 4 Nov 2007 at 8:33 am:
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    Dolph,

    You are in the minority (very small). Come over to my street and ask my neighbors about the flyer. I know I did and they liked it. Just make sure you don’t tell them how you felt about it or they will chase you home.

  98. Patty said on 4 Nov 2007 at 8:39 am:
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    The liberal left always feels citizens are too ignorant to participate in government that is why they feel it necessary to keep people in the dark. Our government works on the principle of openess so that the citizenry is informed. It just amazes me how many people on this blog skipped government class.

    Dolph,

    Not all people have the luxury of time on the computer as you have. Come talk to my next door neighbor. Tell her you think the flyer was a waste of money. She’ll give you an earful that you will not soon forget!

  99. One Voice said on 4 Nov 2007 at 10:22 am:
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    Patty -

    Your rant at me is why I prefer keeping my focus limited to comments on fiscal policy and outcome to avoid useless hysterical and emotional discussions.

    I will say, I think you missed my point - but God knows I won’t attempt to correct that :)

  100. Jones said on 4 Nov 2007 at 10:26 am:
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    The bottom line is it cost $31,000 to send just one more piece of juck in the mail. You could hire a part time zoning inspector for this amount of money. Would have been a much better use of tax payer $’s.

  101. agree2disagree said on 4 Nov 2007 at 11:28 am:
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    Patty,

    It is nice to know that if a person doesn’t agree with your neighbor they will be chased away.

  102. Patty said on 4 Nov 2007 at 6:54 pm:
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    One Voice,

    You made some nasty derogatory comments about Stewart. I guess you don’t like it when someone holds you accountable.

    By the way, if I remember correctly didn’t some of the volunteer firefighters get in trouble for having parties at the fire station. They would also invite women of ill repute. I believe this happened a few years ago.

  103. One Voice said on 4 Nov 2007 at 7:22 pm:
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    Patty

    You have made a few GENERALIZED and derogatory comments about what you think I am and what I believe. Hitler, Castro I should move to Cuba??? You don’t even know who I am. I am free to comment about Mr. Stewart and you are free to comment as well. Just because I don’t like him I am now a white supremicist and believe in peeling peoples skin off or experimenting with their eyes. Quite a leap don’t you think?

    Let’s just agree not to address each other any more. You are clearly overwrought with some issues and it is making you appear a truly nasty little person. I will give you the benefit that you are not really a truly nasty little person.

    When you have some specifics for which you would like me to be accountable, I would be more than happy to respond.

    Until then…….. ignore.

  104. anon said on 4 Nov 2007 at 8:26 pm:
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    “One Voice said on 3 Nov 2007 at 11:52 am:
    anon - The dollar amount alone makes it an issue that begged the practice of public disclosure. If that is the kind of leadership you admire, well certainly vote for him. I’m not.”

    Well, One Voice — then you better get off your butt and start raising a stink about the hundreds of thousands of dollars these supervisors spend this way each and every year.

    You’ve got a rip-roarin’ case of situational ethics.

  105. anon said on 4 Nov 2007 at 8:30 pm:
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    “Jones said on 3 Nov 2007 at 10:53 am:
    Courtesy is the least of the problems with a $31,000 expenditure for policitcal gain.”

    Talk about an ostrich with his head in the sand.

    Everything the supervisors do with money is for political gain.

    You don’t know about the money that the other supervisors are spending - because I guarantee you’ve never bothered to look.

    You’re just PO’d because it’s Corey Stewart.

  106. One Voice said on 4 Nov 2007 at 8:45 pm:
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    Anon

    What the heck do you think I’m doing?

    I am all about mis-spent money, disclosure and fiscal responsibility. My position on Stewart’ mailer is simply that it was not spent where I thought it was necessary considering they needed $2 Million for Immigration Enforcement and they don’t have it. There is no going back for more money. Unless they lay people off where do YOU think it’s coming from?

    Transporation is now a local issue because the interstates can’t support the traffic. (Now we’re talkin millions not hundreds of thousands)
    What about the Adult Day Care center situation in Manassas last year? That was all of them.

    I am frank that I don’t like his tactics. I don’t think he give a whit for PWC nor does he give a whit about the financial woes decending.

  107. redawn said on 4 Nov 2007 at 9:17 pm:
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    One Voice,

    We live in America. VOTE for who you want to vote for. :)
    It is so SAD politics bring out the nasty in people….is this not our right living here in America to have choices of who we should vote for?

  108. One Voice said on 4 Nov 2007 at 9:25 pm:
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    Thank you, Redawn - once again the calm voice of reason. I was just taken aback by the leap from not liking Stewart meant I was akin to Hitler - threw me off and did tick me off. Calmer now.

    I am busy looking at Lafayette’s photos of RATS!!!!!. I have learned so much……

  109. redawn said on 4 Nov 2007 at 9:30 pm:
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    One Voice,

    It is SO easy to REACT and get upset, it seems that it is programmed in our HUMAN behavior. That is too easy, I have to PRACTICE not to do that everyday…it gets easier with time…oh and yeah, I REALLY get practice everyday having to deal with slackjaw teenagers, LOL :) lesson they NEED to learn and I will not give up on…..:)

  110. One Voice said on 4 Nov 2007 at 9:48 pm:
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    Absolutely, we all react. It’s how we move on I guess….

  111. redawn said on 4 Nov 2007 at 10:27 pm:
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    One Voice,
    I should clarify, I wasn’t referring to how you reacted but how anon reacted to you….when things don’t go a persons way…oh…so sad but true, they will throw a temper fit…that is what I meant to be too easy and react :)

    For the record, I am not voting for Corey Stewart either.

  112. One Voice said on 4 Nov 2007 at 10:55 pm:
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    I didn’t take it that way! Just admitting to being human.
    Brave going on the record _
    May I ask why you are not? Just curious.

  113. redawn said on 4 Nov 2007 at 11:23 pm:
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    One Voice,
    Yes, you may…LOL :)
    His arrogance and attitude. There is a lot to be said by body language and more so, his approach.
    I did NOT like the way he talked to Maureen C and John Jenkins on July 10th for ONE, inviting people with the mailer to come and speak only to TRY and cut off the citizen’s time from 3 minutes to 1. To take his time and talk to CNN, doing interviews…..is that enough? I think so.

  114. One Voice said on 5 Nov 2007 at 8:07 am:
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    Redawn

    I think so, too.

  115. Patty said on 5 Nov 2007 at 8:49 am:
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    One Voice,

    You thought the flyer was a waste. Anyone who says government shouldn’t inform constituents about important matters that come before the Board, I’m going to liken them to dictators and communists because that is exactly what they do. I think it is an evil practive to keep information from the citizens. I don’t buy into the idea of people being too lazy to find out for themselves. Some people don’t have the luxury of time. So if you are going to make comments about how that flyer should not have gone out, I’m going to throw cold water on your face, so to speak. You also made deragotory comments about Stewart. This man has gone out of his way to listen to the people of this community. He has more backbone and courage than a lot of other politicians I know. He was correct in sending out the flyer and we the citizens of this county appreciate that he did that.

    This blog is a conservative blog. If you are going to make nasty comments about conservatives, you are going to get comments directed toward you that you will not like. If you don’t have a thick skin to take it, then go to a liberal blog and converse with people who are more in tune with your thinking.

  116. Dolph said on 5 Nov 2007 at 10:03 am:
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    I always thought that fiscal responsibility was a conservative issue.

    Patty, it’s past time to put the mailers to bed. No one brought them up but you. It is over. They went out. Some of us approve, some of us don’t. That is what makes America such a great country.

    I really must speak up for One Voice. She was addressing some questions I posed. I have never known her to be nasty. She is one person here who I believe we can count on to maintain her composure even if she is saying something we might not want to hear. Too bad SHE isn’t running for supervisor. She would guard our tax dollars and certainly is knowledgeable about the financial status of the county.

  117. One Voice said on 5 Nov 2007 at 1:36 pm:
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    Thanks Dolph for pointing out that the mailer wasn’t really the issue; it was the wisdom to spend the money at that particular point in time and the process by which it was handled .

    Regarding running for supervisor, I would truly enjoy such a role. My main interests are less government, personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility; but I honestly can’t take the nastiness that accompanies so much of our political process. That is enough to keep me out of our election process.

    I can handle a frank and opposing conversation including one fraught with emotion as so many are; however intolerance and meanness are so counterproductive to me in that arena that I choose to walk away from it. There is just nothing for an intelligent person to gain from that.

    I am happily limted that way. :)

    Thanks again !

  118. Patty said on 5 Nov 2007 at 2:21 pm:
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    Dolph,

    Did you read the title of this thread or are you so consumed with my response that you forgot? Please go back and read the title of this thread.

    Never mind, I will help you out:

    BOCS Meeting Notice: No Violation Of The Law

    It’s about the flyer.

    One Voice needs to read my response. I suppose in your mind the liberals are always right 100% of the time. Yes, sometimes you do need a bit of “cold water in your face” so to speak.

    Yes, I suppose you have the right to make deragotory comments about Supervisor Stewart. You better develop a thick skin quickly, if you plan on continuing your tirade on this blog about Stewart and that goes for you too Dolph.

    This is a blog for conservative voices. If you promote your liberal ideas don’t think for one moment that you will not receive a negative response to your comments.

    Before you berate Stewart again, look in the mirror and ask yourself if your comments are nasty. Can you be truthful?

  119. Dolph said on 5 Nov 2007 at 3:53 pm:
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    I don’t believe I have mentioned Corey Stewart in a ‘nasty’ way. I certainly have not mentioned him in this thread nor have I ever gone on a tirade about him on THIS blog. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else.

    In fact, I don’t recall implying he did anything wrong. I questioned the wisdom of spending money. Every citizen should be mindful of how the public coffers are spent and are free to comment about how their tax dollars are distributed. Unfortunately, we cannot line-item veto the items we do not wish to support.

    I would beg to differ that this is a blog for conservative voices. If it were only for conservative voices, would that not be tantamount to preaching to the choir? That certainly would do away with spirited debate, now wouldn’t it? I would say that it is a conservative blog, implying that the issues set forth are from a conservative perspective. How government spends citizen’s money is most definitely a conservative issue.

    Were I into name-calling, which I generally am not, I would suggest that the liberal involved in the discussion would want government to personally notify them of every move, regardless of cost, instead of assuming responsibility for themselves. However, that would be ….well….not me. I try to be civil and live by the ‘Golden Rule.’ I am not always successful, but that is my goal. As a moderate, I rarely get into conservative vs liberal. I seriously do not like labels.

  120. Patty said on 5 Nov 2007 at 5:30 pm:
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    Dolph,

    One Voice made the nasty comment but you seemed to agree with One Voice, so maybe you better clarify your remarks about Supervisor Stewart in what you agreed with One Voice.

  121. One Voice said on 5 Nov 2007 at 5:41 pm:
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    Patty

    You likened me to Hitler and Castro because I don’t like Stewart? You think that’t okay?!

    What was my nasty comment that set you off?

  122. Patty said on 5 Nov 2007 at 5:52 pm:
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    One Voice,

    I likened you to Hitler and the communists because they like to keep people in the dark. You obviously did not want the flyer to go out. I think it is an evil practice to not inform citizens of important votes. By your comments you seem to think that is okay. That is why I likened you to Hitler and the communists. The way they operate is to keep the people in the dark. They don’t want the people informed. They want to keep them ignorant. By jumping on Stewart for sending out the flyer you are in agreement with how communist governments like to operate. You’ve made your bed, now lie in it.

  123. One Voice said on 5 Nov 2007 at 5:55 pm:
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    Oh dear God.

    What was the nasty comment that I made?

  124. One Voice said on 5 Nov 2007 at 6:02 pm:
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    Actually, Patty - Hitler invaded Russia after 1917. They didn’t like each other too much.

    So, if I get this right, because I think the money could have been better spent and if a flyer had not gone out then the BOS would have secretly passed a resolution on TV while keeping everyone in the dark.

    So because I think the money could have been better spent and we obviously disagree then I am wrong and you can call me names and I should move to Cuba and get a high level job and then lay on my bed because this is a conservative blog and I am a flaming liberal and if people don’t agree with you and your neighbors you chase them away.

    I get it now.

  125. Dolph said on 5 Nov 2007 at 9:59 pm:
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    And I wonder why I stopped being politically active some 10 years ago????

    Much of this blog, this election cycle, and many participants on this blog simply offend my sense of fair-play, ethics, and decency.

  126. One Voice said on 5 Nov 2007 at 10:10 pm:
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    I think it might be over. I can say for me it’s finis.

  127. Patty said on 5 Nov 2007 at 10:39 pm:
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    One Voice,

    You make me laugh so hard I’m about to cry.

  128. One Voice said on 5 Nov 2007 at 10:58 pm:
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    Patty
    Does that mean no more yellin’?

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