Comments on: Spanish Language GOTV Effort http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Wed, 23 May 2012 10:04:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Michael http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37454 Michael Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:29:03 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37454 The real problem is those who are here got over the border illegally or overstayed their visa's. NOW they are scared and are trying desperately to do what is right, while still remaining here. The only way out for most is legal marriage with a legal resident (who most likely also came in the country illegally initially and found a legal way to get sponsorship, like employer sponsorship for a green card. What a mess! The penalties for false pretenses for marriage are high and sponsorship carries a 10 year support obligation. No one in their right mind should marry just for a green card but it happens all the time and the support obligations don't hit them until the divorce 3 years later an a big lawsuit comes at them. Beware all you young guys or gals who thinnk marrying an "illegal" is a good idea. Beware employers who get lawsuits of support after firing an employee who decides not to get another job. You still have the burden of support for 10 years. A stupid law passed by congress, but on the books to create misery for sponsers and bonus benefits for "illegals". I really feel these green cards should be rescinded. Someday maybe congress will pass this as the population gets large enough to destroy what is left of our political ethics and cultural way of life as "illegals" replace it with their own. Make no bones about it, "illegals" will vote ONLY their own people into power and that is going to upset a LOT of communities who never thought such fascists concepts could happen in America. The real problem is those who are here got over the border illegally or overstayed their visa’s. NOW they are scared and are trying desperately to do what is right, while still remaining here. The only way out for most is legal marriage with a legal resident (who most likely also came in the country illegally initially and found a legal way to get sponsorship, like employer sponsorship for a green card. What a mess! The penalties for false pretenses for marriage are high and sponsorship carries a 10 year support obligation. No one in their right mind should marry just for a green card but it happens all the time and the support obligations don’t hit them until the divorce 3 years later an a big lawsuit comes at them. Beware all you young guys or gals who thinnk marrying an “illegal” is a good idea. Beware employers who get lawsuits of support after firing an employee who decides not to get another job. You still have the burden of support for 10 years. A stupid law passed by congress, but on the books to create misery for sponsers and bonus benefits for “illegals”. I really feel these green cards should be rescinded. Someday maybe congress will pass this as the population gets large enough to destroy what is left of our political ethics and cultural way of life as “illegals” replace it with their own. Make no bones about it, “illegals” will vote ONLY their own people into power and that is going to upset a LOT of communities who never thought such fascists concepts could happen in America.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37178 AWCheney Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:03:53 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37178 Nothing Dolph...I agree with what you're saying. I would think that this woman should receive AT LEAST the consideration received by Salvadorans in this country for these many years by virtue of a disaster long gone by. She was just an easy target because she TRIED to do things the right way when those who scamper over the border keep getting a free ride. This really is not right! Nothing Dolph…I agree with what you’re saying. I would think that this woman should receive AT LEAST the consideration received by Salvadorans in this country for these many years by virtue of a disaster long gone by. She was just an easy target because she TRIED to do things the right way when those who scamper over the border keep getting a free ride. This really is not right!

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37176 Dolph Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:52:04 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37176 COM, Nooooo, it doesn't mean that. Where did that come from? All I have heard here is people saying come in this country the right way. I am beginning to think that this statement is a bit disengenuous. What is this woman doing wrong? COM,

Nooooo, it doesn’t mean that. Where did that come from?

All I have heard here is people saying come in this country the right way. I am beginning to think that this statement is a bit disengenuous.

What is this woman doing wrong?

]]> By: citizenofmanassas http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37173 citizenofmanassas Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:32:04 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37173 Leila, Sorry, once again you missed. Keep tying though, it does provide for fun reading. Leila,

Sorry, once again you missed. Keep tying though, it does provide for fun reading.

]]> By: citizenofmanassas http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37172 citizenofmanassas Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:30:50 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37172 Dolph, Does that mean any family member of a soldier who breaks the law should get off just based on the fact their relative is a soldier? Or, should that rule only apply to illegals? Dolph,

Does that mean any family member of a soldier who breaks the law should get off just based on the fact their relative is a soldier? Or, should that rule only apply to illegals?

]]> By: Legal2 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37095 Legal2 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:31:05 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37095 The legal number was repeated several times on radio/television over the past few weeks. I think it includes guest workers (allowed legally). Here's one article which puts numbers in perspective - http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_17_4/tsc_17_4_rubenstein.shtml The legal number was repeated several times on radio/television over the past few weeks. I think it includes guest workers (allowed legally).
Here’s one article which puts numbers in perspective - http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_17_4/tsc_17_4_rubenstein.shtml

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37064 Dolph Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:34:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37064 Correction: 3 tours of duty in Iraq. typo. Correction: 3 tours of duty in Iraq. typo.

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37063 Dolph Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:33:27 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37063 The young woman in the video is doing everything the right way. She isn't trying to make up her own rules. I beg to differ. She is going along with the system and the system is screwing her. She had no control over where she was taken as a child. Her husband is a US citizen who has served 4 tours of duty in Iraq. What a shameful way for this country to treat our servicemen. It looks like our immigration officers have real elephant balls. NOT. They bust those who are go in voluntarily to apply correctly, with citizen spouses. Yet they are apparently afraid of the trash who violate our laws on a daily basis. I find it interesting that someone who is trying to do things the right way is still criticized. Amazing! I wholeheartedly support Careless Whisper. The young woman in the video is doing everything the right way. She isn’t trying to make up her own rules. I beg to differ. She is going along with the system and the system is screwing her.

She had no control over where she was taken as a child. Her husband is a US citizen who has served 4 tours of duty in Iraq. What a shameful way for this country to treat our servicemen.

It looks like our immigration officers have real elephant balls. NOT. They bust those who are go in voluntarily to apply correctly, with citizen spouses. Yet they are apparently afraid of the trash who violate our laws on a daily basis.

I find it interesting that someone who is trying to do things the right way is still criticized. Amazing! I wholeheartedly support Careless Whisper.

]]> By: Leila http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37049 Leila Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:46:11 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37049 COM, we all know that you are a paragon of virtue, that you have never broken any law (except perhaps a speed limit, very slightly), but certainly not any other law now or previously on the books in Virginia. Not one sip, not one illicit tangle of limbs, nothing, nada. I know that even Cotton Mather would feel anxious in contemplating your virtue. We would all do well to emulate you. However, the error of fact I was referring to didn't have anything to do with illegal aliens, their criminality, or your total lack there of. Sorry. COM, we all know that you are a paragon of virtue, that you have never broken any law (except perhaps a speed limit, very slightly), but certainly not any other law now or previously on the books in Virginia. Not one sip, not one illicit tangle of limbs, nothing, nada. I know that even Cotton Mather would feel anxious in contemplating your virtue. We would all do well to emulate you.

However, the error of fact I was referring to didn’t have anything to do with illegal aliens, their criminality, or your total lack there of. Sorry.

]]> By: Leila http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37047 Leila Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:38:28 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37047 Patriot, the issue in my question to Legal2 was the number of legal immigrants admitted annually, which he/she said was 2 million. It was not a question about the illegal population. Patriot, the issue in my question to Legal2 was the number of legal immigrants admitted annually, which he/she said was 2 million. It was not a question about the illegal population.

]]> By: citizenofmanassas http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37041 citizenofmanassas Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:13:29 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37041 Leila, Sorry you missed again. You have consistently defended illegals. You support criminals, I do not. That hardly makes me the one that is always incorrect. Though, I do like how you again avoid answering the questions. I have to hand it to y'all who defend criminals, you will go down looking like fools rather than to admit y'all are wrong. Leila,

Sorry you missed again. You have consistently defended illegals. You support criminals, I do not. That hardly makes me the one that is always incorrect.

Though, I do like how you again avoid answering the questions. I have to hand it to y’all who defend criminals, you will go down looking like fools rather than to admit y’all are wrong.

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37028 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:51:42 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-37028 Leila, the bottom line.........there are too many! Period! Additionally, there are probably millions of legal residents who are aiding and abetting (which is a FELONY)! These people should be thrown in jail. Hopefully, our reporting will start making that happen! Leila, the bottom line………there are too many! Period! Additionally, there are probably millions of legal residents who are aiding and abetting (which is a FELONY)! These people should be thrown in jail. Hopefully, our reporting will start making that happen!

]]> By: Leila http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36957 Leila Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:39:56 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36957 Legal2, I am curious where you get your figure of 2 million legal immigrants per year. Looking at figures from a wide variety of sources, I am not seeing anything close to that. For example, the Heritage Foundation says close to 1 million, FAIR has just over that, as does NumbersUSA, and one million, give or take a couple of hundred thousand, seems to be the standard in several other sources I found. Where are you getting the two million figure? I assume you mean actual immigrants processed to live here, not visitors. Legal2, I am curious where you get your figure of 2 million legal immigrants per year. Looking at figures from a wide variety of sources, I am not seeing anything close to that. For example, the Heritage Foundation says close to 1 million, FAIR has just over that, as does NumbersUSA, and one million, give or take a couple of hundred thousand, seems to be the standard in several other sources I found. Where are you getting the two million figure? I assume you mean actual immigrants processed to live here, not visitors.

]]> By: Legal2 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36922 Legal2 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:57:52 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36922 Redawn, thanks for the link @ 10:52, 11/2. This young woman's mind has a flicker of reason. At least it's a start, but she needs to think a little farther. First, it is presumptuous for anyone to come here illegally in whatever way they want, making up their own rules to "get themselves legalized." Go home; start over by applying legally. True, it is difficult; not everyone will get in. That's how regulated immigration works. The USA takes in 2M immigrants legally every year, more than all other countries combined. She could also get a better idea of what we deal with if she used the analogy of the 12 men moving into her apartment (instead of next door). They could even pay a little for being there. They could even be fine, upstanding people. They could be any color or nationality or profession. But they would be using her sofa and hanging around all day and they would even be the type to use the bathroom. Maybe they could even do a little housework for her. Great! But they aren't invited; there is only so much room. In fact sometimes, the bathroom is so crowded that 1 of them (only 1!) must urinate in the corner of the dining room. Does she find out who only the worst culprit is and "deport" him? Redawn, thanks for the link @ 10:52, 11/2. This young woman’s mind has a flicker of reason. At least it’s a start, but she needs to think a little farther. First, it is presumptuous for anyone to come here illegally in whatever way they want, making up their own rules to “get themselves legalized.” Go home; start over by applying legally. True, it is difficult; not everyone will get in. That’s how regulated immigration works. The USA takes in 2M immigrants legally every year, more than all other countries combined.

She could also get a better idea of what we deal with if she used the analogy of the 12 men moving into her apartment (instead of next door). They could even pay a little for being there. They could even be fine, upstanding people. They could be any color or nationality or profession. But they would be using her sofa and hanging around all day and they would even be the type to use the bathroom. Maybe they could even do a little housework for her. Great! But they aren’t invited; there is only so much room. In fact sometimes, the bathroom is so crowded that 1 of them (only 1!) must urinate in the corner of the dining room. Does she find out who only the worst culprit is and “deport” him?

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36760 Dolph Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:58:45 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36760 So, Ms Redawn, it seems that all the 'do the right thing' rhetoric has been nothing but bs and blather. What say you? So, Ms Redawn, it seems that all the ‘do the right thing’ rhetoric has been nothing but bs and blather. What say you?

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36702 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:14:18 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36702 Hey John Locke.....I guess you might not have passed your ESOL class? Why don't you try to read English. I said "aiding and abetting" is a FELONY! Hey John Locke…..I guess you might not have passed your ESOL class? Why don’t you try to read English. I said “aiding and abetting” is a FELONY!

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36693 Dolph Sat, 03 Nov 2007 05:05:16 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36693 Did anyone watch redawn's video link? Young woman doing things right. Her husband is a US citizen and has served several tours of duty in Iraq. Did anyone watch redawn’s video link? Young woman doing things right. Her husband is a US citizen and has served several tours of duty in Iraq.

]]> By: Leila http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36685 Leila Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:21:57 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36685 COM, once again you appear to be delusional or perhaps to have mistaken me for someone else. But that's ok. You appear to have a great deal invested in being incorrect. COM, once again you appear to be delusional or perhaps to have mistaken me for someone else. But that’s ok. You appear to have a great deal invested in being incorrect.

]]> By: redawn http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36684 redawn Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:52:14 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36684 To add to my post at 10:34, The reason I was asked by a friend to post the above video, was brought up by a follow up video I discovered this evening. , The girl in the video was not speaking of PWC....it was something that I came across in my research...here is a video I found tonight that sparked a conversation I had with a friend and why it was requested that I repost that video above...... It is just interesting..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NmXCl16LJk To add to my post at 10:34,

The reason I was asked by a friend to post the above video, was brought up by a follow up video I discovered this evening.
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The girl in the video was not speaking of PWC….it was something that I came across in my research…here is a video I found tonight that sparked a conversation I had with a friend and why it was requested that I repost that video above……

It is just interesting…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NmXCl16LJk

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36682 Anonymous Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:46:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/02/spanish-language-gotv-effort/#comment-36682 John Locke said on 2 Nov 2007 at 10:02 pm: Patriot e verify, You are either compeletly ignorant of the statute or knowingly spreading misinformation. Being here illegally IS NOT A FELONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a civil violation, get it, got it, good! That's for the 1st offense. The second and subsequent offenses are felonies. John Locke said on 2 Nov 2007 at 10:02 pm:
Patriot e verify,
You are either compeletly ignorant of the statute or knowingly spreading misinformation. Being here illegally IS NOT A FELONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a civil violation, get it, got it, good!

That’s for the 1st offense. The second and subsequent offenses are felonies.

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