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	<title>Comments on: Manassas-Manassas Park Post-Election Analysis</title>
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		<title>By: Linda B.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38505</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 04:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38505</guid>
		<description>Nevermind his campaign ... Miller's record of success in the House is remarkable given the short amount of time he has served. He deserved to keep the job, and he is a great hope for this state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind his campaign &#8230; Miller&#8217;s record of success in the House is remarkable given the short amount of time he has served. He deserved to keep the job, and he is a great hope for this state.</p>
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		<title>By: Miller fan</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38489</link>
		<dc:creator>Miller fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38489</guid>
		<description>I love all these pseudo democrat analysts out here talking about how Jackson Miller "isnt that strong a candidate", or "isnt unbeatable".  

 If you count party nomination contests, between City Council and the General Assembly the guy has won 5 contests in the last 4 years.

I would have to say that makes him a pretty formidable candidate.  Matt, you say he dosnt like to knock on doors?   On election night I asked him how many he knocked this year.  The answer - just under 10,000 doors.

That may not be quite as many doors as Rishell, but when you come off as a likable person like Miller its pretty hard to beat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all these pseudo democrat analysts out here talking about how Jackson Miller &#8220;isnt that strong a candidate&#8221;, or &#8220;isnt unbeatable&#8221;.  </p>
<p> If you count party nomination contests, between City Council and the General Assembly the guy has won 5 contests in the last 4 years.</p>
<p>I would have to say that makes him a pretty formidable candidate.  Matt, you say he dosnt like to knock on doors?   On election night I asked him how many he knocked this year.  The answer - just under 10,000 doors.</p>
<p>That may not be quite as many doors as Rishell, but when you come off as a likable person like Miller its pretty hard to beat.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon in the know</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38297</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon in the know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38297</guid>
		<description>Jackson Miller won by 60% because he and his staff worked extremely hard.   Matt and Turn PW Blue make some reasonable points, but make a mistake by underestimating the amount of effort that Miller and his campaign staff expended this year.  Rishell ran as a moderate centrist and Miller had to work constantly to personally contact voters to counter what she was putting out there as the "truth".  Rishell and her campaign worked overtime to obfuscate the truth, and were very effective at it with many people who don't follow politics regularly (which is most of the population unfortunately).   The 60% victory over Rishell came from tireless work to get the truth out by Miller and his supporters.   The dems underestimating him only works to Miller's advantage.  Those who are close to his campaign and to him personally (democrats and republicans both, many dems like the guy because he's straightforward) know the truth however.  Rishell worked very hard this year, and so did Miller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackson Miller won by 60% because he and his staff worked extremely hard.   Matt and Turn PW Blue make some reasonable points, but make a mistake by underestimating the amount of effort that Miller and his campaign staff expended this year.  Rishell ran as a moderate centrist and Miller had to work constantly to personally contact voters to counter what she was putting out there as the &#8220;truth&#8221;.  Rishell and her campaign worked overtime to obfuscate the truth, and were very effective at it with many people who don&#8217;t follow politics regularly (which is most of the population unfortunately).   The 60% victory over Rishell came from tireless work to get the truth out by Miller and his supporters.   The dems underestimating him only works to Miller&#8217;s advantage.  Those who are close to his campaign and to him personally (democrats and republicans both, many dems like the guy because he&#8217;s straightforward) know the truth however.  Rishell worked very hard this year, and so did Miller.</p>
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		<title>By: park'd</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38293</link>
		<dc:creator>park'd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38293</guid>
		<description>Dolph: I have started the process on them with my condo association. I have tried to be tolerant since they are good church going people, but they are totally disrespecting me and my stuff. It's a cultural thing. The problem is that the people that own that place work odd hours and their *cough* roommates have people over that don't know the rules and park in my spot. There are so many people coming and going into this townhouse that there is no way to prevent it. Kids running wild with candy wrappers and juice boxes which they drop in my yard. Kids playing tag and ball around my car, etc. These people are driving me nutts. At least they are pious folks; I can't even imagine if they were partying day laborer types. I would have beaten 2 or 3 of them by now if they were. You don't mess with a man's woman or a man's belongings. That lesson was taught to me as a child. Too bad our 'visitors' haven't learned it.....yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph: I have started the process on them with my condo association. I have tried to be tolerant since they are good church going people, but they are totally disrespecting me and my stuff. It&#8217;s a cultural thing. The problem is that the people that own that place work odd hours and their *cough* roommates have people over that don&#8217;t know the rules and park in my spot. There are so many people coming and going into this townhouse that there is no way to prevent it. Kids running wild with candy wrappers and juice boxes which they drop in my yard. Kids playing tag and ball around my car, etc. These people are driving me nutts. At least they are pious folks; I can&#8217;t even imagine if they were partying day laborer types. I would have beaten 2 or 3 of them by now if they were. You don&#8217;t mess with a man&#8217;s woman or a man&#8217;s belongings. That lesson was taught to me as a child. Too bad our &#8216;visitors&#8217; haven&#8217;t learned it&#8230;..yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38258</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38258</guid>
		<description>SSO-

I don't necessarily think that Miller is a strong candidate; he was completely funded last year by party PACs and leadership and he doesn't have time/doesn't like to walk neighborhoods and knock doors in any substantial number.

I think that if he was in a district that was more evenly divided he would have a very difficult time. He kind of has a Fred Thompson vibe to him; seems like there are other things he would rather do than campaign during campaign season.

I agree with Turn PWBlue that Rishell's shot was the special election but she didn't understand the importance of the immigration issue well enough and she didn't truly understand her vulnerability on that issue. If she had, she would have won in '06.

DPVA is fixated on the 52nd and they continue to pump good money after bad. Taylor, Barg, and Brown (the last 3 candidates) were horrible. Barg and Brown had no field game and relied completely on direct mail, and Taylor refused to personally walk the district. While the poll numbers suggest the 52nd is a pick-up opp for Dems, the Dems will not take this seat until Frederick leaves on his own accord, or they find a candidate with little baggage and a lot of energy and organizational skill. Jeff is too good at raising money and interacting with the citizens to lose and the Dems don't understand this. They look solely at the numbers and fail to realize that personal connection at the local level is more important than preference for up-ticket races. DPVA and the PWCDC look at these things in a much too simplistic way.

I knew this race was lost back in June when Chris Brown called me and told me that his campaign manager was the young girl who ran Barg's field op in '05. He was so excited to have a "professional" from Richmond working for him. 

She was incompetent in '05 and then ran the Democrats to their worst defeat in this district since George DeLimba. 

Recycling the same bad people and bad ideas will not work - is that the definition of insanity? I started laughing out loud when I got mailers from Brown using the same rhetoric from '03. 

DPVA is run by monkeys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSO-</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily think that Miller is a strong candidate; he was completely funded last year by party PACs and leadership and he doesn&#8217;t have time/doesn&#8217;t like to walk neighborhoods and knock doors in any substantial number.</p>
<p>I think that if he was in a district that was more evenly divided he would have a very difficult time. He kind of has a Fred Thompson vibe to him; seems like there are other things he would rather do than campaign during campaign season.</p>
<p>I agree with Turn PWBlue that Rishell&#8217;s shot was the special election but she didn&#8217;t understand the importance of the immigration issue well enough and she didn&#8217;t truly understand her vulnerability on that issue. If she had, she would have won in &#8216;06.</p>
<p>DPVA is fixated on the 52nd and they continue to pump good money after bad. Taylor, Barg, and Brown (the last 3 candidates) were horrible. Barg and Brown had no field game and relied completely on direct mail, and Taylor refused to personally walk the district. While the poll numbers suggest the 52nd is a pick-up opp for Dems, the Dems will not take this seat until Frederick leaves on his own accord, or they find a candidate with little baggage and a lot of energy and organizational skill. Jeff is too good at raising money and interacting with the citizens to lose and the Dems don&#8217;t understand this. They look solely at the numbers and fail to realize that personal connection at the local level is more important than preference for up-ticket races. DPVA and the PWCDC look at these things in a much too simplistic way.</p>
<p>I knew this race was lost back in June when Chris Brown called me and told me that his campaign manager was the young girl who ran Barg&#8217;s field op in &#8216;05. He was so excited to have a &#8220;professional&#8221; from Richmond working for him. </p>
<p>She was incompetent in &#8216;05 and then ran the Democrats to their worst defeat in this district since George DeLimba. </p>
<p>Recycling the same bad people and bad ideas will not work - is that the definition of insanity? I started laughing out loud when I got mailers from Brown using the same rhetoric from &#8216;03. </p>
<p>DPVA is run by monkeys.</p>
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		<title>By: dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38257</link>
		<dc:creator>dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38257</guid>
		<description>Park'd,

Steal my parking place, I have words with you, and I don't care if you are Mother Theresa.  Does you HOA not have a tow service?

My daughter lives in Stonington and they are the parking Nazis over there.  It really is overkill.  

Do you even have a HOA over where you live?  

There is always the box of nails trick for stolen parking spots.  Oooopppps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Park&#8217;d,</p>
<p>Steal my parking place, I have words with you, and I don&#8217;t care if you are Mother Theresa.  Does you HOA not have a tow service?</p>
<p>My daughter lives in Stonington and they are the parking Nazis over there.  It really is overkill.  </p>
<p>Do you even have a HOA over where you live?  </p>
<p>There is always the box of nails trick for stolen parking spots.  Oooopppps.</p>
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		<title>By: 4kidsnadog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38256</link>
		<dc:creator>4kidsnadog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38256</guid>
		<description>park'd

Your feelings are shared by many.  Reasonable people are being pushed to their limits.   I would not be surprised if normally law law abiding citizens start to retaliate in frustration.  It is a sad state of affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>park&#8217;d</p>
<p>Your feelings are shared by many.  Reasonable people are being pushed to their limits.   I would not be surprised if normally law law abiding citizens start to retaliate in frustration.  It is a sad state of affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38247</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38247</guid>
		<description>anon said on 8 Nov 2007 at 8:09 am:

Perhaps they should try to stand for something other than bashing immigrants.” 

NO ONE IS BASHING IMMIGRANTS.  ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE BEING BASHED AND RIGHTLY SO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anon said on 8 Nov 2007 at 8:09 am:</p>
<p>Perhaps they should try to stand for something other than bashing immigrants.” </p>
<p>NO ONE IS BASHING IMMIGRANTS.  ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE BEING BASHED AND RIGHTLY SO!</p>
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		<title>By: park'd</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38241</link>
		<dc:creator>park'd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38241</guid>
		<description>MP is already blue considering it is now 80% Hispanic with a TREMENDOUS number of illegal aliens. Low voter turnout in the park is attributed to the real citizens feeling like prisoners in their own community and feeling powerless to do anything about it since the mayor and city council are complicit in the invasion. I feel that way myself every time my PITA Mexican next door neighbors who live at least 8 in that house with 20-30 people coming and going at all times steal my 2nd parking spot and drop trash in my yard. I am ~ this close to having words with the man of that house. These people just don't respect anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP is already blue considering it is now 80% Hispanic with a TREMENDOUS number of illegal aliens. Low voter turnout in the park is attributed to the real citizens feeling like prisoners in their own community and feeling powerless to do anything about it since the mayor and city council are complicit in the invasion. I feel that way myself every time my PITA Mexican next door neighbors who live at least 8 in that house with 20-30 people coming and going at all times steal my 2nd parking spot and drop trash in my yard. I am ~ this close to having words with the man of that house. These people just don&#8217;t respect anything.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38238</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38238</guid>
		<description>From 11/8/07 Wall Street Journal Opinion Page "Tax and Offend":

"And speaking of hapless, Virginia Republicans lost control of the Senate for the first time in 12 years, and were all but wiped out in Northern Virginia's Fairfax County. Virginia Republicans have lost their way by embracing the tax and spending agendas of successive Democratic Governors, and the result has been more and more Democrats in office. Perhaps they should try to stand for something other than bashing immigrants." 

Prediction - Manassas and Manassas Park to go blue in 2008 if HSM takes over nomination process for local candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From 11/8/07 Wall Street Journal Opinion Page &#8220;Tax and Offend&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;And speaking of hapless, Virginia Republicans lost control of the Senate for the first time in 12 years, and were all but wiped out in Northern Virginia&#8217;s Fairfax County. Virginia Republicans have lost their way by embracing the tax and spending agendas of successive Democratic Governors, and the result has been more and more Democrats in office. Perhaps they should try to stand for something other than bashing immigrants.&#8221; </p>
<p>Prediction - Manassas and Manassas Park to go blue in 2008 if HSM takes over nomination process for local candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38205</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38205</guid>
		<description>And I made the above comment is a Democrat... BVBL is good.

Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I made the above comment is a Democrat&#8230; BVBL is good.</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38204</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38204</guid>
		<description>BVBL is the best conservative web site in Virginia... we need to have a blogger's happer hour... I'm hoping NLS and BVBL will co-host one...

Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BVBL is the best conservative web site in Virginia&#8230; we need to have a blogger&#8217;s happer hour&#8230; I&#8217;m hoping NLS and BVBL will co-host one&#8230;</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<title>By: dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38201</link>
		<dc:creator>dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38201</guid>
		<description>Turn PW Blue,

There is also the fact that it takes a special person to go out there and have the proverbial crap kicked out of them day in and day out.  Elections have become far too uncivilized.  

The local party has a long way to go if it is going to be a viable political entity in this county.  

Thank you for a fair assessment of the situation.  You can always be counted on to dispense with the rhetoric and speak the truth as you see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turn PW Blue,</p>
<p>There is also the fact that it takes a special person to go out there and have the proverbial crap kicked out of them day in and day out.  Elections have become far too uncivilized.  </p>
<p>The local party has a long way to go if it is going to be a viable political entity in this county.  </p>
<p>Thank you for a fair assessment of the situation.  You can always be counted on to dispense with the rhetoric and speak the truth as you see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Billyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38196</link>
		<dc:creator>Billyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38196</guid>
		<description>Patty,

 Yes, I am big Redskin Fan,  just saw Dolph's post and will contact her in the AM. Long night last night, need some sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty,</p>
<p> Yes, I am big Redskin Fan,  just saw Dolph&#8217;s post and will contact her in the AM. Long night last night, need some sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38191</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38191</guid>
		<description>Lafayette,

I left a message on the previous thread for him to come to this one.  I guess if he is not here, maybe we will hear from him tomorrow.  Almost time for shut eye for me.  I stayed up too late last night trying to keep track of election results.  I wanted to wait for Stonewall.  Thanks for doing a great job!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lafayette,</p>
<p>I left a message on the previous thread for him to come to this one.  I guess if he is not here, maybe we will hear from him tomorrow.  Almost time for shut eye for me.  I stayed up too late last night trying to keep track of election results.  I wanted to wait for Stonewall.  Thanks for doing a great job!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38187</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38187</guid>
		<description>Patty,
I think he is. Perhaps he will confirm this. I hope he comes around I have a couple of things I'd like to ask and tell him myself.
Billyboy,
Welcome back. Patty was looking for you for days, sir.
Have contacted Dolph yet? I bet she's waiting to hear from 
you, too.-lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty,<br />
I think he is. Perhaps he will confirm this. I hope he comes around I have a couple of things I&#8217;d like to ask and tell him myself.<br />
Billyboy,<br />
Welcome back. Patty was looking for you for days, sir.<br />
Have contacted Dolph yet? I bet she&#8217;s waiting to hear from<br />
you, too.-lol</p>
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		<title>By: Turn PW Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38185</link>
		<dc:creator>Turn PW Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSO...Jackson Miller was well-positioned for this race, but not an unbeatable candidate.  Rishell's shot to beat him was the special election.  Someone else should have been recruited to face him this year.  As much as this blog has pointed out the failings within the Prince William Republican Party hierarchy, we Democrats were not in good shape to take advantage of some of those weaknesses.  Prince William Democrats (and Manassas and Manassas Park Dems) will need to do a much better job in two years fielding candidates who can pose a serious challenge, not just serve as cannon fodder.  To challenge the likes of Miller and Marshall and Frederick, we would need to field candidates who have broader appeal and know their constituencies (not what DPVA tells them).  Frederick is the most vulnerable (based on precincts in his district that support Webb and Kaine) followed by Miller then Marshall.  All, though, could be vulnerable to the right candidate and some real work by the Democratic Party grassroots (just look at the results from normally conservative parts of Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads where Democrats prevailed--no one in untouchable).  

Both parties have the distinct problem that their leadership by its very nature is going to fall at the more extreme ends of the political spectrum and as a result will alienate the actual people who vote because they fall somewhere in between.  Add to that the daunting task of raising the incredible sums of money it seems to take to run a campaign and you severely limit those who will run to the independently wealthy or the die-hard party ideologues.  So much for the citizen legislator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSO&#8230;Jackson Miller was well-positioned for this race, but not an unbeatable candidate.  Rishell&#8217;s shot to beat him was the special election.  Someone else should have been recruited to face him this year.  As much as this blog has pointed out the failings within the Prince William Republican Party hierarchy, we Democrats were not in good shape to take advantage of some of those weaknesses.  Prince William Democrats (and Manassas and Manassas Park Dems) will need to do a much better job in two years fielding candidates who can pose a serious challenge, not just serve as cannon fodder.  To challenge the likes of Miller and Marshall and Frederick, we would need to field candidates who have broader appeal and know their constituencies (not what DPVA tells them).  Frederick is the most vulnerable (based on precincts in his district that support Webb and Kaine) followed by Miller then Marshall.  All, though, could be vulnerable to the right candidate and some real work by the Democratic Party grassroots (just look at the results from normally conservative parts of Virginia Beach and Hampton Roads where Democrats prevailed&#8211;no one in untouchable).  </p>
<p>Both parties have the distinct problem that their leadership by its very nature is going to fall at the more extreme ends of the political spectrum and as a result will alienate the actual people who vote because they fall somewhere in between.  Add to that the daunting task of raising the incredible sums of money it seems to take to run a campaign and you severely limit those who will run to the independently wealthy or the die-hard party ideologues.  So much for the citizen legislator.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy Boy,

Are you out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy Boy,</p>
<p>Are you out there?</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/07/manassas-manassas-park-post-election-analysis/#comment-38181</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a need for some education here.  Lafayette mentioned this on a previous thread.  Our zoning laws are restricted by the state.  We are a Dillon rule state which means local governments can only do what the state gives permission to do.  That is why the state elections are important.  I mentioned to Billy Boy that Mr. Colgan needs to keep his promise of cracking down on illegal aliens.  It would go a long way if some zoning laws are changed so that we can have real enforcement at the local level - enforcement that would have teeth to it.

Billy Boy, if you are out there, I have a question for you.  Maybe it is something we can wholeheartedly agree on.   Are you a Redskin fan?  And if you are a Cowboy fan, I would rather not know about it.  Okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a need for some education here.  Lafayette mentioned this on a previous thread.  Our zoning laws are restricted by the state.  We are a Dillon rule state which means local governments can only do what the state gives permission to do.  That is why the state elections are important.  I mentioned to Billy Boy that Mr. Colgan needs to keep his promise of cracking down on illegal aliens.  It would go a long way if some zoning laws are changed so that we can have real enforcement at the local level - enforcement that would have teeth to it.</p>
<p>Billy Boy, if you are out there, I have a question for you.  Maybe it is something we can wholeheartedly agree on.   Are you a Redskin fan?  And if you are a Cowboy fan, I would rather not know about it.  Okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 01:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>manassascityresident said on 7 Nov 2007 at 7:51 pm: 
Anonymous said on 7 Nov 2007 at 7:36 pm: 

WOW! Who’s sounds bitter, angry, and sounds like a left wing loonie?
….perhaps you’re just a little angry because Rishell lost so badly last night?

au contraire manassascity resident.   Like many in the district I split the ticket and voted for Colgan/Miller.   I'm no left winger.  I found the negative campaigns runs by FitzSimmonds/Rishell so much alike I wasn't going to vote for her.   Her mailings were discusting and if you got one of her phone calls you knew she lied even more than in the mailings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>manassascityresident said on 7 Nov 2007 at 7:51 pm:<br />
Anonymous said on 7 Nov 2007 at 7:36 pm: </p>
<p>WOW! Who’s sounds bitter, angry, and sounds like a left wing loonie?<br />
….perhaps you’re just a little angry because Rishell lost so badly last night?</p>
<p>au contraire manassascity resident.   Like many in the district I split the ticket and voted for Colgan/Miller.   I&#8217;m no left winger.  I found the negative campaigns runs by FitzSimmonds/Rishell so much alike I wasn&#8217;t going to vote for her.   Her mailings were discusting and if you got one of her phone calls you knew she lied even more than in the mailings.</p>
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